Received VP letter today.
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Amara Service Residence V2, by Jaya Megah
Amara Service Residence V2, by Jaya Megah
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Nov 26 2014, 09:29 PM
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Received VP letter today.
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Nov 26 2014, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(djneo @ Nov 26 2014, 02:49 PM) Buyers started posting issue on maintenance fee already. Screenshots and documentation on official FB page... yes, it's true, s&p clearly stated estimated RM0.18/psf for maintenance Apparently maintenance fee is also stated in the S&P as RM0.18 cents... Please check your S&P if this is true. |
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Nov 27 2014, 10:05 AM
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My gf then asked me if 0.18 is enough to sustain all these feature advertised during sale. So did the developer deliver all these? If yes common sense knows 0.18 psf is not enough. But 0.33/psf macam too much.
Sky gymnasium Sky karaoke rooms Sky terrace with seating pavilions Sky therapeutic yoga zone Line dancing & Tai Chi area Sky garden Sky dining (with functional pantry) Sky lounge Sky Alfresco BBQ area Sky viewing deck Double volume grand sky function room with banquet hall Individual meeting / tuition rooms Functional pantry kitchen area Infinity swimming pool Therapeutic Spa & water cannons & mushroom waterfall Landscape garden Herbs garden Mini golf putting green Alfresco BBQ & picnic area Therapeutic foot reflexology path Relaxing Gazebos Seating Cabanas Indoor-outdoor lounge area Surau Sauna Convenience shop (subject to operator) Children / daycare center (subject to operator) Laundrette (subject to operator) Visitors lounge Carwash bay Multi-tier security |
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Nov 27 2014, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Nov 27 2014, 10:05 AM) My gf then asked me if 0.18 is enough to sustain all these feature advertised during sale. So did the developer deliver all these? If yes common sense knows 0.18 psf is not enough. But 0.33/psf macam too much. my thoughts, boss.Sky gymnasium - min maintenance cost unless replacement of equipments due once every 3 years or so Sky karaoke rooms -min maintenance cost. should also impose charge per use. Sky terrace with seating pavilions -min maintenance cost Sky therapeutic yoga zone -min maintenance cost Line dancing & Tai Chi area -min maintenance cost Sky garden -min maintenance cost Sky dining (with functional pantry) -min maintenance cost. should also impose charge per use. Sky lounge -min maintenance cost Sky Alfresco BBQ area -min maintenance cost. should include deposit per use. Sky viewing deck -min maintenance cost Double volume grand sky function room with banquet hall -min maintenance cost. requires deposit and also charge per use. Individual meeting / tuition rooms -min maintenance cost Functional pantry kitchen area -min maintenance cost. include deposit and possible charges per use. Infinity swimming pool -periodic maintenance costs incurred. Therapeutic Spa & water cannons & mushroom waterfall -periodic maintenance costs incurred. Landscape garden -min maintenance cost Herbs garden -min maintenance cost Mini golf putting green -min maintenance cost. but likely to be closed once damaged. Alfresco BBQ & picnic area -min maintenance cost. should include deposit per use. Therapeutic foot reflexology path -min maintenance cost Relaxing Gazebos -min maintenance cost Seating Cabanas -min maintenance cost Indoor-outdoor lounge area -min maintenance cost Surau -min maintenance cost Sauna -min maintenance cost Convenience shop (subject to operator) -self sustaining from rental. else also no maintenance required if no tenants. Children / daycare center (subject to operator) -self sustaining from rental. else also no maintenance required if no tenants. Laundrette (subject to operator) -self sustaining from rental. else also no maintenance required if no tenants. Visitors lounge -min maintenance cost Carwash bay -min maintenance cost Multi-tier security -periodic maintenance costs incurred. |
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Nov 27 2014, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 27 2014, 10:43 AM) boss, periodic maintenance cost for all items mentioned usually how much? someone did some calculation based on 0.3psf assume 70% paid on time like house and car installment, will get around 2M/year. I'm not sure since never had a place with so much stuff to maintain etc.Lift, guard, maid etc. also need salary and maintenance right. cctv got ah? This post has been edited by WannaGetBuffed: Nov 27 2014, 11:08 AM |
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Nov 27 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Nov 27 2014, 11:07 AM) boss, periodic maintenance cost for all items mentioned usually how much? someone did some calculation based on 0.3psf assume 70% paid on time like house and car installment, will get around 2M/year. I'm not sure since never had a place with so much stuff to maintain etc. consider only 70% will pay maintenance, they should get around 140k per month.Lift, guard, maid etc. also need salary and maintenance right. cctv got ah? need that much for maintenance? highest cost should be - swimming pool - spa - electricity - water - security guards |
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Nov 27 2014, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Nov 27 2014, 11:07 AM) boss, periodic maintenance cost for all items mentioned usually how much? someone did some calculation based on 0.3psf assume 70% paid on time like house and car installment, will get around 2M/year. I'm not sure since never had a place with so much stuff to maintain etc. pls refer to fifth schedule in your spa.Lift, guard, maid etc. also need salary and maintenance right. cctv got ah? that would be a good basis to derive the cost. developer should also furnish a duly filled table to indicate the cost. get a 2nd opinion from another property manager or company to check the costing. that ought to do the trick for check and balance. all in all, i definitely do not think amara require such an amount for maintenance. especially for new buildings where maintenance are in-built into the contracts for first 1 or 2 years. so in theory, 1st year maintenance charges are going into the pockets of developers except utility bills, security charges. i would think 22 cents thereabout should do the trick. but of course, the biggest worry would be to get at least 90% collection. |
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Nov 27 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 27 2014, 11:22 AM) pls refer to fifth schedule in your spa. you should post this in the FB boss, all the owners raising up their pitchforks already on the maintenance fees that would be a good basis to derive the cost. developer should also furnish a duly filled table to indicate the cost. get a 2nd opinion from another property manager or company to check the costing. that ought to do the trick for check and balance. all in all, i definitely do not think amara require such an amount for maintenance. especially for new buildings where maintenance are in-built into the contracts for first 1 or 2 years. so in theory, 1st year maintenance charges are going into the pockets of developers except utility bills, security charges. i would think 22 cents thereabout should do the trick. but of course, the biggest worry would be to get at least 90% collection. Thanks for the insights, well appreciated |
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Nov 27 2014, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Nov 27 2014, 11:11 AM) consider only 70% will pay maintenance, they should get around 140k per month. everything above also still about RM100k nia.need that much for maintenance? highest cost should be - swimming pool let's assume RM15k a month? - spa got spa meh? or sauna? cheap cheap lah. say RM1k a month for servicing? - electricity this one may be RM20k a month - water this one maybe RM5k a month? - security guards let's assume 2 guards per block and 2 guards for the retail and 3 guards at guardhouse. total 13 guards. 3 shifts a day. 39 guards. 39 guards x RM1,500 per month + a manager cum supervisor @ RM3500 per month RM62k |
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Nov 27 2014, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(WannaGetBuffed @ Nov 27 2014, 11:25 AM) you should post this in the FB boss, all the owners raising up their pitchforks already on the maintenance fees no need. somebody constantly copying or should i say plagiarising my statements here in there already mah.Thanks for the insights, well appreciated kekeke. |
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Nov 27 2014, 01:43 PM
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And the 3 months advance maintenance fee is actually starting from 13 Nov...not yet get the key the maintenance already start
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Nov 28 2014, 10:28 AM
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where did u guys find the rm0.18 per sq ft stated in ur SnP agreement. I cant find in the agreement prepared by Tam N Chan??
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Nov 28 2014, 02:15 PM
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Nov 28 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE Guys, we will gather in front of Amara to discuss on the breach of agreement by Jaya Megah Development this Sunday. We've engaged a lawyer to join us too. Please tag along. The more the better. Thanks. AMARA RESIDENCE MEET UP DATE: 30NOV2014, TIME: 2PM VENUE: IN FRONT OF OUR CONDO AT BATU CAVES WHAT TO BRING: YOUR S&P, VP LETTER AND ANY OTHER RELATED DOCUMENTS |
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Nov 28 2014, 11:12 PM
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Nov 28 2014, 11:23 PM
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Nov 28 2014, 11:41 PM
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Nov 29 2014, 09:18 AM
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Swimming pool shld hav beach chair, but fr the pic, i can't c any beach chair.
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Nov 29 2014, 05:55 PM
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Nov 29 2014, 09:40 PM
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The facilites promised are commonly owned or owned by developer? If its owned by developer, they should maintain them and probably charge per use. If its not, then we can rent them out and get the fees to reduce the maintenance later.
Most important is to get the keys. Whatever we pay is owned by us anyway. We just need them to account to each expense. Once the MC is formed, we take over all including the common area. If we see expenses like painting and repair, these are not possible because property just completed. I suggest we just keep quiet and collect keys. We dont wanna upset them cause they can frustrate everything before we get the keys. |
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