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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V11, The Darth Vader troops !

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post Aug 12 2011, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 04:19 PM)
16-85 consider to be a wide angle shooting, the lower value of the first 2 digit is, the wider the photo you shoot will be, and price also will be more pretty.  drool.gif

Instead of getting 16-85mm, i'd rather you go with the kit lens first, you're getting D7000 right? Play with it and see how it goes, and see what's great for you, from my POV you still don't know what kind of stuff you going to shoot, that's why i came up with this conclusion for you.

As for whether to go for 16-85 or not, i'd rather you go for a "true" wide angle instead of this, with that price you can get a Sigma 10-20mm which is a true wide angle lens.
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Thanks for the info...
So,the kit lens is 18-105mm or the 55mm?

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post Aug 12 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 06:36 PM)
Thanks for the info...
So,the kit lens is 18-105 right?
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For D7000, the kit lens is 18-105mm.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 12 2011, 06:12 PM)
to start - put on shutter priority mode, 1/250s, auto iso.
auto u can pray the camera does the setting u want.
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So you're hinting that we can't go manual 24/7? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 06:43 PM)
For D7000, the kit lens is 18-105mm.
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Can manual focus right?
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 06:45 PM)
Can manual focus right?
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Well i can see there's a trigger for it, but need people to double confirm, i my self still haven got 1 for my self yet.
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 06:46 PM)
Well i can see there's a trigger for it, but need people to double confirm, i my self still haven got 1 for my self yet.
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And why people want to buy lens with single focal length like 55mm and not straight away buy zoom lens like 18-55mm with 55mm included in it?
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 06:49 PM)
And why people want to buy lens with single focal length like 55mm and not straight away buy zoom lens like 18-55mm with 55mm included in it?
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First off, bigger aperture = more light can be absorb = pwns in low light shooting
2nd, better lens quality = produce sharper image
3rd, BOKEHLICIOUSSSSS

the rest, you might need to ask other people, i only know this 2 so far. :S

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 07:04 PM)
First off, bigger aperture = more light can be absorb = pwns in low light shooting
2nd, better lens quality = produce sharper image
3rd, BOKEHLICIOUSSSSS

the rest, you might need to ask other people, i only know this 2 so far. :S
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Thanks !
Now I know which lens to buy...
Bigger aperture = higher f numbers?

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post Aug 12 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Aug 12 2011, 06:35 PM)
If u have budget, just get the latest VR2 version, else the VR1 2nd hand will do the job as well  whistling.gif .. Ever considered 200mm F/2 VRII?  brows.gif  Add teleconverter can become 300mm F/2.8
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off topic, saw ur Focus TDCi in siggy:
That day I sat in a focus TDCi remap by DKTuning to about 180hp and over 400nm torque, crazy pull!
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 06:43 PM)
For D7000, the kit lens is 18-105mm.
So you're hinting that we can't go manual 24/7? hmm.gif
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so does shooting on manual 24/7 make you feel like a pro?
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 07:14 PM)
Thanks !
Now I know which lens to buy...
Bigger aperture = higher f numbers?
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Biggest aperture = the lowest F number, which is crowned by LEICA NOCTILUX-M 50 mm f/0.95 ASPH, you wouldn't like to know the pricing.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 12 2011, 07:18 PM)
so does shooting on manual 24/7 make you feel like a pro?
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No i'm just guessing whether you're hinting that, i never say anything related to "feel like a pro" or something right? smile.gif

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 07:19 PM)
Biggest aperture = the lowest F number, which is crowned by LEICA NOCTILUX-M 50 mm f/0.95 ASPH, you wouldn't like to know the pricing.
No i'm just guessing whether you're hinting that, i never say anything related to "feel like a pro" or something right? smile.gif
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i'm saying for a beginner thats the fastest way to learn the basics of shutter speed for capturing motion without worrying about exposure.

in school u learn abc first, not starting with jkl then go back abc right...
so start from the beginning, learn basics of aperture then shutter etc, then how they relate to each other.

also, there are some ppl who use manual just to feel like a pro, but when u see the exif its like they dont fully understand or dont want to understand the relations.
eg. u see someone shoot and the exif shows f/5.6, 1/2000s, iso1600, and its just for shooting a normal scene.
someone with better knowledge can drop iso to 200 and have shutter speed of 1/250 and still be ok.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 12 2011, 05:44 PM)
of cos i left it there la.
around 2pm yesterday so they can check it fully and make decision whether to replace or not.
then this morning at 10am i got sms saying i can come collect...so basically they did it within 5 working hours.

well focus adjustment is lens dependent, thats why D7000 and above can store diff AF fine tune values for up to 12 lenses.
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My was the body, so have to adjust the body.Whatever lens I put on its front focus.

What I meant was, when they adjust, seems they adjust based on the lens they have, I don't know the actual process, but that's what I understand from them when I ask them because I want to make sure my camera is following the standard adjustment instead of adjust according to a lens. And seems it not a detail micro efficiency process as what I read in overseas forum, which is is very detail using some machine or something.

QUOTE(wke002 @ Aug 12 2011, 06:08 PM)
Sifu, am still on manual with my d7000. I play around with the kit lens and setting in AUTO. notice in LCD view, taking fast picture inside home is not possible. I dunno what I changed but still in AUTO mode, from the viewfinder, i managed to get kids to jump and snap at crystal sharp image. Now i just bought 50mm 1.8g, i did again play around but now I cannot get that freeze moment of them jumping clear.

I can hear previously the shutter sound was just click sound. Now with 50mm lens, I hear a lag, like 2 clicks.

can anyone help if put in AUTO, is there some adjustment can be done or its full auto all the way. Else to capture fast moving action, can please teach me how to set and will save in U1 or U2.

thanks so much.
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If you prefer to use LCD, then you shouldn't get DSLR.
If you use auto and wnt to shoot action, use Scene mode and choose sports or similar, which is optimize for fast action.
And using 50mm, in auto mode indoor, it might use widest aperture and the DOF will be shallow, you might want to use 3D tracking or something similar if you want to use auto and keep it simple.
But honestly, if you use a DSLR, you need to at least learn to use the viewfinder and some basic usage, shutter priority modes, aperture priority modes, et.
If you want simple, those mirrorlless will deliver much better job and much easier to use.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 12 2011, 07:29 PM)
My was the body, so have to adjust the body.Whatever lens I put on its front focus.

What I meant was, when they adjust, seems they adjust based on the lens they have, I don't know the actual process, but that's what I understand from them when I ask them because I want to make sure my camera is following the standard adjustment instead of adjust according to a lens. And seems it not a detail micro efficiency process as what I read in overseas forum, which is is very detail using some machine or something.
urs is D7000 also right?
maybe to them their lens is calibrated already? so after adjusting the sensor for the focusing issues, then they try their lens using a focus chart? and if its fine, guess in their experience most lenses will be fine also and nothing that the body AF fine tune cant handle.
if its entry lvl body, then really dunno how tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 12 2011, 07:54 PM)
urs is D7000 also right?
maybe to them their lens is calibrated already? so after adjusting the sensor for the focusing issues, then they try their lens using a focus chart? and if its fine, guess in their experience most lenses will be fine also and nothing that the body AF fine tune cant handle.
if its entry lvl body, then really dunno how tongue.gif
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Yup, D7000. Before I send in, I was using the aF Fine tune, I modified the fine tune +8 for te default camera AF, thus all lenses mount looks ok. But that's not the way, so when I'm got the time, I send to Nikon PJ to fix it. Now its fixed, just that it was not what I expected and as detailed as what I read.

Anyway, it's considered resolved, just stating the difference of how things were done seems to be different from what I read in overseas forum or discussions, the mentioned about the detailed process an so on. I guess you could put like doing car alignment, some experience mechanic doing it by their feel while some follow the spec in the machine as a standard, but car alignment can be affected by the car condition, so manual adjustment maybe necessary.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 12 2011, 08:26 PM)
Yup, D7000. Before I send in, I was using the aF Fine tune, I modified the fine tune +8 for te default camera AF, thus all lenses mount looks ok. But that's not the way, so when I'm got the time, I send to Nikon PJ to fix it. Now its fixed, just that it was not what I expected and as detailed as what I read.

Anyway, it's considered resolved, just stating the difference of how things were done seems to be different from what I read in overseas forum or discussions, the mentioned about the detailed process an so on. I guess you could put like doing car alignment, some experience mechanic doing it by their feel while some follow the spec in the machine as a standard, but car alignment can be affected by the car condition, so manual adjustment maybe necessary.
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+8 in AF Tune meaning all the while you have back focusing problem not front focusing issue
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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 06:43 PM)
For D7000, the kit lens is 18-105mm.
So you're hinting that we can't go manual 24/7? hmm.gif
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And why would u want to use full manual all the time? It doesn't make you that much cooler u know. Owner a dslr doesn't mean u need to use full manual. Start by learning in aperture priority 1st. Then learn the relationship between aperture, shutter speed and ISO - and what do they do to affect your image. Then from there, apply what you know about the 3 variables into manual mode and fine tune it to how you way your final image to look like.

QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 06:45 PM)
Can manual focus right?
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Most if not all lenses nowadays can be manual focused, just depending the clutch is based on the lens itself or only can be activated on the camera body.

QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 06:49 PM)
And why people want to buy lens with single focal length like 55mm and not straight away buy zoom lens like 18-55mm with 55mm included in it?
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I think what he meant was 18-105 or 18-55 lens. Not referring to a 55mm prime.

QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 07:14 PM)
Thanks !
Now I know which lens to buy...
Bigger aperture = higher f numbers?
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Larger aperture size (opening) : smaller number eg. f/1.4

Smaller aperture (less light entering the lens) : larger number eg. f/16

Aperture size determines how much light your sensor is receiving. But mainly, it governs how much depth of field is being produced.

P/s: Wiki/google the terms that makes you feel @.@
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Ok
I will Google/wiki it next time
And how much is the D7000 actually ?
I saw at shop got sell RM 43++ plus kit lens 18-105mm but at the internet or lowyat de price RM29++ body only
The lens so expensive meh?
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 08:57 PM)
Ok
I will Google/wiki it next time
And how much is the D7000 actually ?
I saw at shop got sell RM 43++ plus kit lens 18-105mm but at the internet or lowyat de price RM29++ body only
The lens so expensive meh?
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18-105 lens can get cheaply around RM600 edi i think tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 12 2011, 08:59 PM)
18-105 lens can get cheaply around RM600 edi i think  tongue.gif
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That will be used price

RRP is over RM1k
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 12 2011, 08:59 PM)
18-105 lens can get cheaply around RM600 edi i think  tongue.gif
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So it means the shop sell de is expensive..?

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