Don't understand about the skintone comment. Why is it difficult to achieve in that setup?

Yes, any FX lens can mount on the D90.

The Nikon F mount has never changed since 1959. You can still mount old lenses on your latest Nikon bodies unlike the Canon.

Like Andy214 does not know? I thought the challenge was to get ambient as well as subject illuminated in the same WB? Not flash as the main light.

What has gels got to do with it? I guess you did not read.

There was never a discussion of have or don't have gel. Of course when you don't have a gel, you make use of the normal speedlight like the way it is supposed to be used. How else is everybody using their speedlights?

That's correct. That was what I was trying to put forward. For skintones, I never like to put high contrast or high saturation.

Not too sure of your problem but metering can be fooled and the flash will underexpose. Perhaps that is why you see suggestions to use centre weight metering and using full manual flash or full manual exposure to fix more variables and less chances of the camera screwing up.

For me, the advantage of a f/2.8 lens is that I can expose close to the ambient light and let the flash be the fill light.

This post has been edited by jchue73: Aug 17 2011, 04:04 AM

I rest my case, you just don't get what I'm trying to tell here. No point trying to explain to you.

OT: alpha_company, I wonder why... my NOD32 blocks your signature ._. first time coming across this kinda condition lol.

This post has been edited by celciuz: Aug 17 2011, 07:32 AM

Morning guys. Anyone here today on holiday?

NO.

What with that kind of face? I'm supposedly on holiday today but stayed overnight at office to do work and now still in

Anyone here attended those courses from Nikon or Nikonian Academy? How it is?

This post has been edited by vearn27: Aug 17 2011, 11:33 AM

You don't really "get" (dapat) good lighting. Quality lighting comes from how you find and strategise on directing the light to create some dimension in order to provide a visual impact. If the light is harsh, this give you an opportunity to play with shadows and details. If the light is diffused, it gives you an opportunity to play with dreamy look. This also affect the color saturation of your pic.

This post has been edited by geekster129: Aug 17 2011, 11:50 AM

then guys mind to tell me what is the purpose of this kind technique? to deliver what "feeling" or usually used for what kind of shot?
and what is the speciality of this shot. (what i saw from sample from link is the background colour get sharp + darker, front subject got highlight, whole picture not so "vibrant" colour )
or got any thing i didn't notice?

i roughly read the article like macam explain technical side only

This post has been edited by Agito666: Aug 17 2011, 11:59 AM

Working , meh I'm so on a holiday mood now~

I'm working too although my state is in holiday. To be exact, I was here (office) since yesterday

Anyway celciuz, again care to share your tips and guide on how to get proper skin tone? I still finds mine yellowish or dull. Probably underexpose...

Hero subject standout. Try a simple fill flash in broad daylight and compare it with strobing technique in broad daylight will let you see the difference.

The techniques mentioned are used to render highlights, fill lights to the hero subject while having the background intact. These techniques were famous in skateboarding scenes as well as fashion shots and its expanding to many other subjects too.

If you want to know what mood of such shots delivers, its to create a dramatice feel, emphasizing just on the subject and his/her action or expression.

Post a photo then I can comment what can be done to improve it Its hard when you mention that only lor...

thanks for explain. so this technique you mentioned is quite high speed for shutter and in same time makes background duller/deeper/darker/under-expo colour too right?

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Added on August 17, 2011, 12:45 pmlater he post indian photo with yellow colour tone then we had to ask him how to do that.
joking

This post has been edited by Agito666: Aug 17 2011, 12:45 PM

What do you think about the skin tone of this?

looks okay overall for me, unless you cover the red colour shirt part then will notice yellowish lor...
is it how the auto WB work with camera?

dude, it was a statement, not a question. yes, manual might solve it, but how many people understands it?
flash eV and ambient eV is totally 2 diff exposure, 2 diff WB(non gel),... if the FeV is enough, its enough, and if eV overpower FeV, u will get more eV color tint/cast. that why people use gel in the first place, and meter to kill ambient. unless you are capturing available light, then the WB just adjust to the ambient, u dont have a flash wb to disturb the equation.

another tedious work is to adjust back the mixture of dual WB by using photoshop, its easy for me, but the rest of people who never play with photoshop manual color balance will jump off KLCC.

i second you....

-kytz-: not sure whose photo u seen, but many PRO, does heavy processing, FG/subject/BG.... so it look prefect, for example, see how wedding gallery burn the BG so much, sometimes they leave traces of improper exposure between sky(BG) and couple(subject). many of people here still shoot direct out jpeg. so its not uncommon to see bad FG/BG exposure.

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as for skintone issue, watch your environment! its important, shooting at jungle/with lot of green leaves, or brown trunks, the bounce light from sun/flash will cause tint, the WB is infra detection on light coming it, it detects Sun UV and it will run around 6500k, but after u shoot, realize there is too much brown/green tint from wood and leaves, its normal, use photoshop to correct it, its important to know basic skill on photoshop too.

Agito666 to simplify, to have dramatic effect, compose a contrast image. meaning strong differences in FG/Subject/BG

always wonder about skin tone, but shouldnt ppl try to capture as accurately as possible the real skin tone?
why do u want to change natural yellow skin ppl to white?

http://tindermann.deviantart.com/art/Sabotage-31710768

this one used same technique too?
*ps: i like that action

This post has been edited by Agito666: Aug 17 2011, 01:07 PM

well, see, skintone debate has been forever. there is no right or wrong.

chinese usually love white, fairer the better, hence canon was big pick by the chinese due to their low contrast and saturation sensor, (reason for low contrast and saturation is to help in the NR)

some people prefer ambient light to be capture to give the feeling, we were there. but photographer has been influence so much by the "rules" that white has to be white.

so in the end, its up to you. but then, i cannot stand photo taken around green trees, the terrible green skintone is bad.

This post has been edited by ieR: Aug 17 2011, 01:10 PM

I'm at the lost here... You coming in halfway and telling us something we already know that you get patches with white and yellow lighting when using flash without a gel in tungsten lighting and now you say I don't understand you?

Please read posts starting from post #815.

Looks fine but toning down the red channel would be excellent.

What did you use? Flash alone in tungsten lighting?

Chill dude. I wasn't attacking anybody. I was putting out a statement too. If somebody is not familiar with manual exposure or flash, they just need to ask. I understand what you understand and we're talking about the same thing.

chilled~ lol, well, the gel thing, gimme sometime i find where is my old post regarding the aperture vs flash issue.

anyway, the worst WBskintone but great photo.



This post has been edited by ieR: Aug 17 2011, 01:16 PM