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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V11, The Darth Vader troops !

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post Aug 13 2011, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ Aug 13 2011, 07:37 PM)
thanks for the advice bro. i will study it later  flex.gif
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Or master Joe McNally's Da Grip! laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Aug 13 2011, 07:02 PM)
Since normally i really cant get the colour saturation that i wanted... and really confused about the hyperfocal method...
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color saturation ? go for RAW format,

generally RAW is uncompressed , bigger file size but the versatility is there when comes to editing

Hyperfocal method is easy bro, at 18mm DX u set to F8 and you are good to go for landscape. smile.gif

Maybe sometimes people's EXIF also act as a guidance so in what situation you know what F would like to use.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Aug 13 2011, 07:55 PM)
color saturation ? go for RAW format,

generally RAW is uncompressed , bigger file size but the versatility is there when comes to editing

Hyperfocal method is easy bro, at 18mm DX u set to F8 and you are good to go for landscape.  smile.gif

Maybe sometimes people's EXIF also act as a guidance so in what situation you know what F would like to use.
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By default, NEF is lossless compressed tongue.gif. If want uncompressed, need to set it. Plus 14-bit as well instead of 12-bit. Only available on higher range bodies.
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post Aug 13 2011, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Aug 13 2011, 07:52 PM)
Or master Joe McNally's Da Grip! laugh.gif


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LIKE A BOSS cool2.gif

but i still don't quite understand the technique tongue.gif tongue.gif

i have try it with my d3100. quite hard to do. need battery grip huh? laugh.gif

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post Aug 13 2011, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Aug 13 2011, 07:52 PM)
Or master Joe McNally's Da Grip! laugh.gif

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I actually missed this post the first time. Nice sharing! Didn't know there is such thing. Actually been wondering how to do a good grip... this kinda answered my question. Good thing for me, I can focus with both eyes LOL. Sometimes when shooting out with my friend, I can start with left eye then later on right eye, a few times my friends was asking me too lol if I'm using right or left eye on the viewfinder.
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How many of you shoot RAW files?

I don't really shoot RAW, always JPEGs all the way
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QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 14 2011, 12:45 AM)
How many of you shoot RAW files?

I don't really shoot RAW, always JPEGs all the way
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I mostly shoot in RAW+Fine / RAW cause I'm practicing and using lightroom
Only when candid, sport, street photography I'll shoot Jpeg

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I only shoot RAW when I am doing commercial shots for large printing

I think most people shoot RAW because they are afraid of screw up the picture and with RAW, they can adjust more

But I don't really shoot RAW even doing commercial now
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QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 14 2011, 01:07 AM)
I only shoot RAW when I am doing commercial shots for large printing

I think most people shoot RAW because they are afraid of screw up the picture and with RAW, they can adjust more

But I don't really shoot RAW even doing commercial now
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If people know what their shooting at, I dont think people fear of screwing up

Maybe you could share some of this screw ups that might occur in RAW smile.gif (kinda like a pro-guide to us noobies)

For me screw up means in both RAW or Jpeg if picture is blur, eyes not sharp, bad framing is GG especially in candid and street photography



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QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Aug 14 2011, 01:31 AM)
If people know what their shooting at, I dont think people fear of screwing up

Maybe you could share some of this screw ups that might occur in RAW smile.gif (kinda like a pro-guide to us noobies)

For me screw up means in both RAW or Jpeg if picture is blur, eyes not sharp, bad framing is GG especially in candid and street photography
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That will be focusing issue, not related to RAW or JPEG
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QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 14 2011, 01:07 AM)
I only shoot RAW when I am doing commercial shots for large printing

I think most people shoot RAW because they are afraid of screw up the picture and with RAW, they can adjust more

But I don't really shoot RAW even doing commercial now
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Depends, if situations like events when changing lightings, etc, shoot raw give you more room for fixing. Its not about afraid of screw ups, nobody is perfect, and its not about ego and showing off or trying to proof one can always get it right in camera, e.g. acting like a pro. Its more important to get the result at its best than the ego.
If anyone can really always 100% get it right in camera than good for him/her, but it doesn't mean anything, really. If you look at most real pros, they always PP, most probably they always shoot RAW too.

Some ppl will say things like, no need PP, or no need flash, well, it really depends... The question is, can one shoot a picture straight out of camera exactly like the one well PP? Even given them all the time to try as many shots as possible, can one do it?
And for flash, try shooting in lowlights area where you need ISO higher than 6400 at f/2.8 1/30 secs to say get the exposure right. Whats more, try shooting group photo.Don't want flash? Yes, you still can do it of course.....

QUOTE(Calvin Pixels @ Aug 14 2011, 01:31 AM)
If people know what their shooting at, I dont think people fear of screwing up

Maybe you could share some of this screw ups that might occur in RAW smile.gif (kinda like a pro-guide to us noobies)

For me screw up means in both RAW or Jpeg if picture is blur, eyes not sharp, bad framing is GG especially in candid and street photography
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Screw up can be over or under expose, or White Balance out, etc.

In any case, I don't see anything wrong with people who shoot RAW and those that don't shoot RAW. It really up the individual. It just seems like sometimes either party likes to tease each other, e.g. RAW shooter saying jpeg have limitation, while jpeg shooter teasing raw shooter for not being good enough? Shooting either format only doesn't proof anything or make anyone better than the other...

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 14 2011, 02:04 AM)
Depends, if situations like events when changing lightings, etc, shoot raw give you more room for fixing. Its not about afraid of screw ups, nobody is perfect, and its not about ego and showing off or trying to proof one can always get it right in camera, e.g. acting like a pro. Its more important to get the result at its best than the ego.
If anyone can really always 100% get it right in camera than good for him/her, but it doesn't mean anything, really. If you look at most real pros, they always PP, most probably they always shoot RAW too.

Some ppl will say things like, no need PP, or no need flash, well, it really depends... The question is, can one shoot a picture straight out of camera exactly like the one well PP? Even given them all the time to try as many shots as possible, can one do it?
And for flash, try shooting in lowlights area where you need ISO higher than 6400 at f/2.8 1/30 secs to say get the exposure right. Whats more, try shooting group photo.Don't want flash? Yes, you still can do it of course.....
Screw up can be over or under expose, or White Balance out, etc.

In any case, I don't see anything wrong with people who shoot RAW and those that don't shoot RAW. It really up the individual. It just seems like sometimes either party likes to tease each other, e.g. RAW shooter saying jpeg have limitation, while jpeg shooter teasing raw shooter for not being good enough? Shooting either format only doesn't proof anything or make anyone better than the other...
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@ Andy214 good point there smile.gif


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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 14 2011, 02:08 AM)
shoot video format then whistling.gif
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i60p format? from NIkon P series O.O

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post Aug 14 2011, 05:30 AM

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i plan to get batt grip for my d7000, between octopus and phottix which one most of you recommend? or just get the original one from china? i have tested from my friend which is original nikon, but it seem like very loose, need to put some paper to tight it up
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QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 14 2011, 01:07 AM)
I only shoot RAW when I am doing commercial shots for large printing

I think most people shoot RAW because they are afraid of screw up the picture and with RAW, they can adjust more

But I don't really shoot RAW even doing commercial now
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me 100% jpeg. never shoot raw lol
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post Aug 14 2011, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Aug 14 2011, 01:07 AM)
I only shoot RAW when I am doing commercial shots for large printing

I think most people shoot RAW because they are afraid of screw up the picture and with RAW, they can adjust more

But I don't really shoot RAW even doing commercial now
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I shoot RAW when I need to post process for the color and all. JPEG only when I need the speed and I do not need processing (motorsport for example).

Reason is that RAW contains more data, and when you deal with stuffs such as WB and black level, color toning etc RAW seems more suitable as compared to JPEG from my experience.

QUOTE(ResQ @ Aug 14 2011, 05:30 AM)
i plan to get batt grip for my d7000, between octopus and phottix which one most of you recommend? or just get the original one from china? i have tested from my friend which is original nikon, but it seem like very loose, need to put some paper to tight it up
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There is no such thing as original grip from China. I don't think that one is real. It is a counterfeit. If not mistaken it doesn't have magnesium alloy body too! Not to mention the tolerance of those are usually low to cut production cost.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 14 2011, 09:40 AM)
There is no such thing as original grip from China. I don't think that one is real. It is a counterfeit. If not mistaken it doesn't have magnesium alloy body too! Not to mention the tolerance of those are usually low to cut production cost.
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Well, unless he's stating that the original D7000's battery grip, the MB-D11 is Made from China smile.gif
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would like to ask,
nikon d5000 & d5100 share the same battery?
can nikon d5000 battery(en-el9) use on d5100 ?

and also battery grip, can nikon d5000 battery grip use on d5100 ?>
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post Aug 14 2011, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 13 2011, 05:07 PM)
If memory serves me right, my 18105 focuses quicker than my 85mm f/1.4G.
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hahaa true.
then hor, let's compare the 18105 at 85mm f5.6 with the 85 1.4 at 5.6 and see the result. which one focuses more accurately?

i think people tend to think that it's gold to focus faster. nobody seems to think that it's even more important to focus accurately
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QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 14 2011, 12:56 PM)
hahaa true.
then hor, let's compare the 18105 at 85mm f5.6 with the 85 1.4 at 5.6 and see the result. which one focuses more accurately?

i think people tend to think that it's gold to focus faster. nobody seems to think that it's even more important to focus accurately
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Well, topic was on speed so I made this comparison tongue.gif

In terms of accuracy, I don't recall much of an issue with the 18105 unlike my 50mm f/1.8D. Besides, 85mm shooting at f/5.6, will affect AF accuracy? Since the lens is still wide open during focusing, just more DOF so any focus accuracy is less obvious.

On the point I italic it, this is where the 85mm f/1.4G outperforms the 85mm f/1.4D. It is slower in terms of focusing, but more reliable focusing (better accuracy especially low light).


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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 14 2011, 11:29 AM)
Well, unless he's stating that the original D7000's battery grip, the MB-D11 is Made from China smile.gif
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Made in China? ... I thought it was made in Thailand just like the MB-D10.

Anyways then need to know the pricing, weather it is the counterfeit with plastic body or its the real Nikon with magnesium alloy body.

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