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AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V25, 990FX, Bulldozer!
AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V25, 990FX, Bulldozer!
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Nov 14 2013, 08:49 AM
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Elite
8,103 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Tanah Lot @ Dungun, Terengganu. |
head over to johnny guru & check those reviews on d locally available units.
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Nov 23 2013, 03:32 PM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
Hello guys,
Since AMD's roadmaps showed there won't be SR FX processors for the year 2014, I'm just going to jump onto an AM3+ platform to replace my PC I smoked a few weeks ago. For now, I'm likely going with an FX-8320 and an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0. But I'm not sure of what RAMs with particular chips (Elpida, Hynix, Micron) to get for OCing... anyone able to advise? Can't really afford premium RAM so if anyone has a good lead on relabelled chips on value RAMs it would be real nice. |
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Nov 24 2013, 03:28 PM
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50 posts Joined: Dec 2009 |
Is there anywhere to get a free OC mobo(non-commercial) to play around OC?
Any manufacturer provide it? |
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Nov 24 2013, 03:34 PM
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588 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang | Puchong | Malacca |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 23 2013, 03:32 PM) Hello guys, bro, how bout consider the Asrock 990FX Extreme3 instead. At least it's a 990FX chipset. That Asus you mentioned is a 990X. There are differences, mainly with the PCIE speed when SLI-ing. It's cheaper than the Asus 990X board as well.Since AMD's roadmaps showed there won't be SR FX processors for the year 2014, I'm just going to jump onto an AM3+ platform to replace my PC I smoked a few weeks ago. For now, I'm likely going with an FX-8320 and an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0. But I'm not sure of what RAMs with particular chips (Elpida, Hynix, Micron) to get for OCing... anyone able to advise? Can't really afford premium RAM so if anyone has a good lead on relabelled chips on value RAMs it would be real nice. |
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Nov 24 2013, 05:04 PM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(raydenex @ Nov 24 2013, 03:34 PM) bro, how bout consider the Asrock 990FX Extreme3 instead. At least it's a 990FX chipset. That Asus you mentioned is a 990X. There are differences, mainly with the PCIE speed when SLI-ing. It's cheaper than the Asus 990X board as well. I was actually leaning towards that, but I did a quick read and other users have experienced bugs during OCing. No SLI for me, so I don't need a 990FX. If I could find a 970 that comes in a good OCing package I certainly would be happy. But thanks for your recommendation.Another thing that drew me to the Asus was the digital 6+2 VRMs... couldn't help but be cautious as I blew my VRMs on my Biostar TA790GXE. That board didn't come with VRM temp sensors but I pushed them too far even with VRM cooling... How about RAM chips? Any nice ones to play with? Would be lucky if I could find binned but proven ones on value RAMs, just a little bit of voltage and they will perform as well as their premium cousins heh. |
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Nov 25 2013, 09:58 AM
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8,521 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: The Jungle Of Pahang |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 24 2013, 05:04 PM) I was actually leaning towards that, but I did a quick read and other users have experienced bugs during OCing. No SLI for me, so I don't need a 990FX. If I could find a 970 that comes in a good OCing package I certainly would be happy. But thanks for your recommendation. Yup go with the ASUS 990x bro, better PWM's means a lot more in oc.. Another thing that drew me to the Asus was the digital 6+2 VRMs... couldn't help but be cautious as I blew my VRMs on my Biostar TA790GXE. That board didn't come with VRM temp sensors but I pushed them too far even with VRM cooling... How about RAM chips? Any nice ones to play with? Would be lucky if I could find binned but proven ones on value RAMs, just a little bit of voltage and they will perform as well as their premium cousins heh. RAM chips nowedeis is kinda hard to pin point, but i do find gskill rams to be quite good in oc for AMD.. avoid kingston they suck nowedeis.. |
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Nov 25 2013, 10:27 AM
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Elite
8,103 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Tanah Lot @ Dungun, Terengganu. |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 23 2013, 03:32 PM) Hello guys, good choice & u should stick to that imo. when it comes to AMD, asus boards would always be 1st in d list to consider. Great ocibility & supports & not to forget their awesome apps like AI Suite & etc. Since AMD's roadmaps showed there won't be SR FX processors for the year 2014, I'm just going to jump onto an AM3+ platform to replace my PC I smoked a few weeks ago. For now, I'm likely going with an FX-8320 and an Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0. But I'm not sure of what RAMs with particular chips (Elpida, Hynix, Micron) to get for OCing... anyone able to advise? Can't really afford premium RAM so if anyone has a good lead on relabelled chips on value RAMs it would be real nice. Ram wise i'd say get micron based (if 2 x4GB) to play play with tight timing (9-9-9) @ 2133 or below. Samsung/Hynix can do 2400 or higher but lax timing (10-12-12/11-13-13) is a must & d ceiling (for prime stable) seems to halt around 24xx (could be user problem thou). if 2GB modules u'll have more options like Elpida BBSE, micron D9KPT, PSC just like d good old am3 oc days. QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 25 2013, 09:58 AM) Yup go with the ASUS 990x bro, better PWM's means a lot more in oc.. d master has spoken... RAM chips nowedeis is kinda hard to pin point, but i do find gskill rams to be quite good in oc for AMD.. avoid kingston they suck nowedeis.. |
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Nov 25 2013, 10:36 AM
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8,521 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: The Jungle Of Pahang |
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 25 2013, 10:27 AM) good choice & u should stick to that imo. when it comes to AMD, asus boards would always be 1st in d list to consider. Great ocibility & supports & not to forget their awesome apps like AI Suite & etc. Agree with Master Elite Khoo, his ram recommendations are always on the dot with AMD oc Ram wise i'd say get micron based (if 2 x4GB) to play play with tight timing (9-9-9) @ 2133 or below. Samsung/Hynix can do 2400 or higher but lax timing (10-12-12/11-13-13) is a must & d ceiling (for prime stable) seems to halt around 24xx (could be user problem thou). if 2GB modules u'll have more options like Elpida BBSE, micron D9KPT, PSC just like d good old am3 oc days. QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 25 2013, 10:27 AM) Puikkkk master my arse |
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Nov 25 2013, 09:34 PM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(cloudwan @ Nov 25 2013, 09:58 AM) Yup go with the ASUS 990x bro, better PWM's means a lot more in oc.. RAM chips nowedeis is kinda hard to pin point, but i do find gskill rams to be quite good in oc for AMD.. avoid kingston they suck nowedeis.. QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 25 2013, 10:27 AM) good choice & u should stick to that imo. when it comes to AMD, asus boards would always be 1st in d list to consider. Great ocibility & supports & not to forget their awesome apps like AI Suite & etc. Ah, ah_khoocloudwan long time no see. Had fun with you guys during the Phenom II days Ram wise i'd say get micron based (if 2 x4GB) to play play with tight timing (9-9-9) @ 2133 or below. Samsung/Hynix can do 2400 or higher but lax timing (10-12-12/11-13-13) is a must & d ceiling (for prime stable) seems to halt around 24xx (could be user problem thou). if 2GB modules u'll have more options like Elpida BBSE, micron D9KPT, PSC just like d good old am3 oc days. d master has spoken... Yup, I'm planning for 2 x 4GBs, but do AMD FXs prefer timings or all out memory bandwidth? cloudwan ah_khoo any cheap and good set of RAMs under RM300 you can personally recommend? |
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Nov 26 2013, 09:25 AM
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Elite
8,103 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Tanah Lot @ Dungun, Terengganu. |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 25 2013, 09:34 PM) Ah, ah_khoocloudwan long time no see. Had fun with you guys during the Phenom II days nice to have u back bro... Yup, I'm planning for 2 x 4GBs, but do AMD FXs prefer timings or all out memory bandwidth? cloudwan ah_khoo any cheap and good set of RAMs under RM300 you can personally recommend? never really do head to head comparison but i'd like to think tight timing better performance but high frequency is fun too. can't really advised on which to get, it's all down to ya preference, here's some input which i hope can help a 'lil: crucial ballistix tactical (non led)/elite 1866 cl9 > Micron D9PFJ (credits to Lengchai) - 9-9-9 @ 2133MHz w/ 1.65v OK for 24/7 Gskill ARES 2133 CL9 (Hynix ?FR) - 9-11-10 @ 2133MHz / 10-12-12 @ 2400MHz » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « samsung lv lp 1600MHz CL11 is pretty much same like ARES but slightly "lax"er timing & @ 2400MHz, 2T is a must. I believe all cost lower than RM300, not so sure bout their availability locally but i think u'll have higher chance in gettin gskill & crucial in MY. This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Nov 26 2013, 09:35 AM |
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Nov 27 2013, 07:46 PM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 26 2013, 09:25 AM) nice to have u back bro... Looking at it now, 2 x 8GB sounds more futureproof never really do head to head comparison but i'd like to think tight timing better performance but high frequency is fun too. can't really advised on which to get, it's all down to ya preference, here's some input which i hope can help a 'lil: crucial ballistix tactical (non led)/elite 1866 cl9 > Micron D9PFJ (credits to Lengchai) - 9-9-9 @ 2133MHz w/ 1.65v OK for 24/7 Gskill ARES 2133 CL9 (Hynix ?FR) - 9-11-10 @ 2133MHz / 10-12-12 @ 2400MHz » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « samsung lv lp 1600MHz CL11 is pretty much same like ARES but slightly "lax"er timing & @ 2400MHz, 2T is a must. I believe all cost lower than RM300, not so sure bout their availability locally but i think u'll have higher chance in gettin gskill & crucial in MY. |
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Nov 28 2013, 09:29 AM
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Elite
8,103 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Tanah Lot @ Dungun, Terengganu. |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Nov 27 2013, 07:46 PM) Looking at it now, 2 x 8GB sounds more futureproof crucial is definitely usin micron chippies bro coz it's d subsidiary company of d latter. yup, 16gb is more future proof. if u use ps or playin with vm, 16gb is d way to go. |
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Dec 8 2013, 02:13 AM
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701 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Malaysia |
hey , newbie question here , just wondering if FX4300 is 4 real core or 2 real core 2 virtual core and also same goes with FX 6350 . one more thing , what to see in a processor to determine which is good ? Thanks
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Dec 8 2013, 02:38 AM
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8,521 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: The Jungle Of Pahang |
QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Dec 8 2013, 02:13 AM) hey , newbie question here , just wondering if FX4300 is 4 real core or 2 real core 2 virtual core and also same goes with FX 6350 . one more thing , what to see in a processor to determine which is good ? Thanks Ever since the launch of bulldozer series, FX41xx/61xx & 81xx AMD has been using module system for their cpu's cores...They have what some would call 1 1/2 core per module system where certain elements in the cpu are sharing the same resource.. |
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Dec 9 2013, 01:57 AM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
Reading all about Kaveri has really gotten me interested on how it would work out - if you see those leaked slides from AMD the current FX series will be used till 2015... That just sealed my decision to not buy one. Can't make myself buy something when a new release is on the horizon
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Dec 9 2013, 11:32 AM
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8,521 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: The Jungle Of Pahang |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Dec 9 2013, 01:57 AM) Reading all about Kaveri has really gotten me interested on how it would work out - if you see those leaked slides from AMD the current FX series will be used till 2015... That just sealed my decision to not buy one. Can't make myself buy something when a new release is on the horizon It's already been reputed by AMD that the alleged slide showing AM3+ socket is dead is actually a hoax slide.. AMD never made any slide stating their cpu release plan more than a 2 years timeframe.. http://www.gamersnexus.net/news/1240-futur...cpus-fx-not-eol |
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Dec 9 2013, 11:48 AM
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Elite
8,103 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Tanah Lot @ Dungun, Terengganu. |
QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Dec 8 2013, 02:13 AM) hey , newbie question here , just wondering if FX4300 is 4 real core or 2 real core 2 virtual core and also same goes with FX 6350 . one more thing , what to see in a processor to determine which is good ? Thanks can u define good? if in term of IPC (instruction per cycle), power efficiency, multitasking etc, intel are generally better. FX still got alot to catch up but not really that bad for 24/7 machine. QUOTE(cloudwan @ Dec 8 2013, 02:38 AM) Ever since the launch of bulldozer series, FX41xx/61xx & 81xx AMD has been using module system for their cpu's cores... well said sir... They have what some would call 1 1/2 core per module system where certain elements in the cpu are sharing the same resource.. QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Dec 9 2013, 01:57 AM) Reading all about Kaveri has really gotten me interested on how it would work out - if you see those leaked slides from AMD the current FX series will be used till 2015... That just sealed my decision to not buy one. Can't make myself buy something when a new release is on the horizon QUOTE(cloudwan @ Dec 9 2013, 11:32 AM) It's already been reputed by AMD that the alleged slide showing AM3+ socket is dead is actually a hoax slide.. imo u should wait n see bro, nowadays AMD is learning fast (from intel), new chips most likely require new socket (d trend now is white socket for older gen while black socket for new, eventhou they are quite similar). kinda disappointed with d news that Kaveri APU confirmed (from what i read) need a new socket (fm2+, black socket) mobo in order for it to run, older fm2 mobo can't accommodate d new chips. pretty sure non APU streamroller will be on newer socket (than AM3+)... AMD never made any slide stating their cpu release plan more than a 2 years timeframe.. http://www.gamersnexus.net/news/1240-futur...cpus-fx-not-eol This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Dec 9 2013, 12:28 PM |
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Dec 9 2013, 04:45 PM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(cloudwan @ Dec 9 2013, 11:32 AM) It's already been reputed by AMD that the alleged slide showing AM3+ socket is dead is actually a hoax slide.. You're right cloudwan AMD never made any slide stating their cpu release plan more than a 2 years timeframe.. http://www.gamersnexus.net/news/1240-futur...cpus-fx-not-eol QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Dec 9 2013, 11:48 AM) imo u should wait n see bro, nowadays AMD is learning fast (from intel), new chips most likely require new socket (d trend now is white socket for older gen while black socket for new, eventhou they are quite similar). kinda disappointed with d news that Kaveri APU confirmed (from what i read) need a new socket (fm2+, black socket) mobo in order for it to run, older fm2 mobo can't accommodate d new chips. pretty sure non APU streamroller will be on newer socket (than AM3+)... FM2+'s max TDP is at 95w - it certainly doesn't categorize it as a enthusiast part but the new techs that come with it certainly makes it interesting. I'm in the same boat as ah_khoo as AM3+ doesn't have PCI-E 3.0 neither native USB 3.0... I know that the most cards we have in the market aren't even unable to saturate PCI-E 2.0 but being enthusiasts as we all are, enthusiasts LOVE revisions and would snap up anything that makes the PC run faster... no way AMD would still leave AM3+ alive down the road and still call it an 'enthusiast-segment'.Now all I have to do is to wait and see official Kaveri benchmarks. Nothing to lose if I have to wait another two months or so... This post has been edited by colinwong89: Dec 9 2013, 10:27 PM |
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Dec 9 2013, 10:14 PM
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8,521 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: The Jungle Of Pahang |
QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Dec 9 2013, 04:45 PM) You're right cloudwan Well reading reply from the AMD spokeperson, he does mention that they just think that it would be unwise to release a newer chipset with updated PCIE 3.0 & native USB3.0 when DDR4 release is coming in another 1~2 years.. FM2+'s max TDP is at 95w - it certainly doesn't categorize it as a enthusiast part but the new techs that come with it certainly makes it interesting. I'm in the same boat as ah_khoo as AM3+ doesn't have PCI-E 3.0 neither native USB 3.0... I know that the most cards we have in the market aren't even unable to saturate PCI-E 2.0 but being enthusiasts as we all are, enthusiasts LOVE revisions and would snap up anything that makes the PC run faster... no way AMD would still leave AM3+ alive down the road and still call it an 'enthusiast-segment'. Now all I have to do is to wait and see official Kaveri benchmarks. Nothing to lose if I have to wait another two months or so... Hmmm maybe its a case of they're planning to release a newer chipset with all that on a newer socket with support of DDR4 like khoo mention? |
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Dec 9 2013, 10:35 PM
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1,463 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(cloudwan @ Dec 9 2013, 10:14 PM) Well reading reply from the AMD spokeperson, he does mention that they just think that it would be unwise to release a newer chipset with updated PCIE 3.0 & native USB3.0 when DDR4 release is coming in another 1~2 years.. Given how tight AMD is at the moment - if Kaveri succeeds it's highly likely a new chipset with all the new techs included will be introduced, but the only question is when. It's likely that they are fully concentrating on Kaveri that any new enthusiast products from AMD will likely show up in customer's hands after at least a year. By then, DDR4 will probably be mature enough to be used, I suppose. Hmmm maybe its a case of they're planning to release a newer chipset with all that on a newer socket with support of DDR4 like khoo mention? |
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