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 New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!

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post Jun 24 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jun 24 2012, 10:00 AM)
My 2.5V came with free toyota solar and security film. It's a clear one.

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Oh, should install black tint when I get the car. I bought using MM2H program, thus I can get the price w/o tax (About RM110K). Still waiting for the approval, at least 3 months. ohmy.gif
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post Jun 24 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jun 24 2012, 02:08 PM)
It's 100% city.
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You sure it was 100% city drive? I have driven the Camry before both 2.0 and 2.4, if 100% city drive this result is impossible, the most I got was around >10km/l, never above this range, if for 2.4, even worse, sometimes only get 8.5 km/l for 100% city drive, but highway drive is different story.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:39 PM)
Camry tank is also 70L right?
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Yup. But I've not gotten close to filling 70L before.
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post Jun 24 2012, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Jun 23 2012, 06:36 PM)
should be 0.17  nod.gif more logical. anyway, just curious the FC only  brows.gif
9 liter out of 70 liter tank. should be the m3 measurement taken only size of the tank. exclusive the bottle of the tank maybe. I guess only
please update us on the discount  brows.gif
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1% cash back or 3 free servicing. CBU unit also got 11k discount but 2011 Passat model

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post Jun 24 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jun 24 2012, 04:04 PM)
You sure it was 100% city drive? I have driven the Camry before both 2.0 and 2.4, if 100% city drive this result is impossible, the most I got was around >10km/l, never above this range, if for 2.4, even worse, sometimes only get 8.5 km/l for 100% city drive, but highway drive is different story.
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Maybe because 2.5 uses different engine and six speed gear box.
Drive on highway within eco range from kl to perlis RM60.

I try my best to drive within the eco range. No more than 140km/h.
In other words, I try not to let the eco green light from disappearing.

P/s: Perhaps your city is different from mine.

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 24 2012, 03:56 PM)
1% cash back or 3 free servicing. CBU unit also got 11k discount but 2011 Passat model
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11k discount @ price 171k? coz CBU 183k if not mistaken.
Any diff CBU with CKD? Thanks you again

QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jun 24 2012, 04:46 PM)
Maybe because 2.5 uses different engine and six speed gear box.
Drive on highway within eco range from kl to perlis RM60.

I try my best to drive within the eco range. No more than 140km/h.
In other words, I try not to let the eco green light from disappearing.

P/s: Perhaps your city is different from mine.
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I need to back up your statement.

FC is very subjective due to place, drive driving habit. Therefore we just need to set average FC.


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post Jun 24 2012, 10:52 PM

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so all the new camry is CKD unit? even 2.5?
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post Jun 24 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kukulong10 @ Jun 24 2012, 05:52 PM)
so all the new camry is CKD unit? even 2.5?
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CBU I guess
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post Jun 24 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Jun 24 2012, 10:53 PM)
CBU I guess
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2.5 is cbu?
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QUOTE(kukulong10 @ Jun 24 2012, 05:55 PM)
2.5 is cbu?
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should be all camry
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post Jun 25 2012, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Jun 24 2012, 09:56 PM)
11k discount @ price 171k? coz CBU 183k if not mistaken.
Any diff CBU with CKD? Thanks you again
I need to back up your statement.

FC is very subjective due to place, drive driving habit. Therefore we just need to set average FC.
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Cash discount is for the CBU Passat unit for 2011 model. As far as I can tell, the CBU and CKD units are identical. Just talk to the sales when you are free, they'll tell you the reason anyways.

As for the FC of the Camry, you will never be able to fill up 70L unless you run the car dry. That means ignoring the fuel gauge indicating E and MID showing 0 km left. I tried doing that a few times to my relative's Camry but wasn't very successful as psychologically although you know that the car still had fuel in the tank, it's still hard to ignore the low fuel warning and the E gauge tongue.gif

I was able to achieve 630km easily combined (60% highway and 40% city), upon refill, I was only able to fill up to 62L. That means there's still 8L left in the tank to spare. The 2.4L Camry achieves about 10.3L/100 to 13.4L/100 depending on how you drive. For me, I always hovered around 10.4 ~ 11.3L/100, to achieve any higher means having to drive efficiently (aka boring way and keeping to a certain speed).

In pure city driving (speeds almost always never able to even reach 110km/hr and always hovering around 40 to 80km/hr), my best effort in the 2.4L Camry is about 9.4L/100 ~ 10.6L/100. I was still able to achieve about 540km or so before the gauge lights up/

Given that the new 2.5L engine and tranny are both slightly more fuel efficient compared to the previous gen. It is very likely the new car can achieve 650km combined on a whole tank of fuel without even breaking sweat. But I'm still fairly certain the fuel gauge will light up earlier than required as with the previous gen Camry, it's just how they programmed it to work.

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post Jun 25 2012, 08:14 AM

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all latest camry are CKD.... not CBU !!!
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 21 2012, 02:50 PM)
Oh...I thought Vios and Avanza are also made by Toyota so thought all have some Toyota DNA.
Acceleration is based on power to weight ratio. The Vios is less than 1 tonne so it has really good pickup.
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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jun 24 2012, 09:46 PM)
Maybe because 2.5 uses different engine and six speed gear box.
Drive on highway within eco range from kl to perlis RM60.

I try my best to drive within the eco range. No more than 140km/h.
In other words, I try not to let the eco green light from disappearing.

P/s: Perhaps your city is different from mine.
City driving means low speed driving in normal stop start traffic. Not highway. In city, your car would rarely hit the top gear so having 6 or 8 speed auto doesnt make much difference. Even on highway, once you tekan a bit after 130kmph, your gear automatically drops to 5th.

So if ure comparing pure city driving, i dont see how you can achieve 12km/L with a 2.5L car. Thats equivalent to 840km range in 100% city driving for a full tank of fuel. If thats the case, then your highway driving range would be more than 1000km. Doesnt sound logical at all for a 70L tank with a 2.5L engine.

Even in my previous Toyota Vios, my best FC for 100% city driving was 14km/L despite the Vios being about half the weight of the 2.5L Camry. No way a D segment high cc & heavy car like the 2.5L Camry can achieve a FC thats close to the Vios in 100% city driving.

The Kia Optima FC in 100% city driving is about 9km/L with eco mode on.

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Jun 24 2012, 10:55 PM)
should be all camry
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ALL CAMRY = CKD
only prius and prius C = CBU
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 25 2012, 08:19 AM)
City driving means low speed driving in normal stop start traffic. Not highway. In city, your car would rarely hit the top gear so having 6 or 8 speed auto doesnt make much difference. Even on highway, once you tekan a bit after 130kmph, your gear automatically drops to 5th.

So if ure comparing pure city driving, i dont see how you can achieve 12km/L with a 2.5L car. Thats equivalent to 840km range in 100% city driving for a full tank of fuel. If thats the case, then your highway driving range would be more than 1000km. Doesnt sound logical at all for a 70L tank with a 2.5L engine.

Even in my previous Toyota Vios, my best FC for 100% city driving was 14km/L despite the Vios being about half the weight of the 2.5L Camry. No way a D segment high cc & heavy car like the 2.5L Camry can achieve a FC thats close to the Vios in 100% city driving.

The Kia Optima FC in 100% city driving is about 9km/L with eco mode on.
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Can, can achieve 12km/L. It just means you have to adhere to a certain form of driving only. But how many do you think can actually do that? Maybe someone in his late 50s and 60s will but for those in that mid 30s and 40s - I think maybe 1 in 100 will do it here.

Personally experience with the previous gen Camry tells me more realistically the consumption will probably be in the 9.X to 10.Xkm/L range which is normal for a car this size if limited to city driving.
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QUOTE(sarcastickiller @ Jun 25 2012, 03:14 AM)
all latest camry are CKD.... not CBU !!!
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QUOTE(Lehrry @ Jun 25 2012, 04:44 AM)
ALL CAMRY = CKD
only prius and prius C = CBU
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oh ok. thx
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 25 2012, 09:54 AM)
Can, can achieve 12km/L. It just means you have to adhere to a certain form of driving only. But how many do you think can actually do that? Maybe someone in his late 50s and 60s will but for those in that mid 30s and 40s - I think maybe 1 in 100 will do it here.

Personally experience with the previous gen Camry tells me more realistically the consumption will probably be in the 9.X to 10.Xkm/L range which is normal for a car this size if limited to city driving.
What form of driving can u have in stop start traffic? Even at the most optimal and fuel saving form of driving, i dont see how a 2.5L Camry can achieve 840km range on a single full tank (70L) in 100% city driving. Its a known fact that heavy high cc cars consume alot in city traffic as compared to highway cruising. Even US car mags that tested the 2.5L Camry have claimed a 25mpg city consumption or 10.7km/L only which makes sense for a car this size.
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Help me to understand, new camry 2.0E is using previous model engine and not Dual VVTI ? it basically different in outlook from previous model? is previous model of Camry still selling ?
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QUOTE(alvincks @ Jun 25 2012, 01:35 PM)
Sifus,

Help me to understand, new camry 2.0E is using previous model engine  and not Dual VVTI ? it basically different in outlook from previous model? is previous model of Camry still selling ?
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new 2.0e is using previous model engine:)
not selling anymore...


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