How much was the booking fee? Did u get full refund?

I would too for lack of VSC. Heck, even the cheapo Preve and the new Honda City has them.

Ure comparing a Vios with the Camry and Avanza? The Vios has good acceleration since its got high hp to weight ratio. Its factory tested 0-100kmph acceleration is timed at 9.8 secs (2003 model) which is very good for a 1.5L car. But the power drops once you have passengers in the car.

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Added on June 21, 2012, 2:30 pmI think uve made a good decision both financially and technically. So what other car is in your mind now? Kia Optima K5 maybe?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 21 2012, 02:30 PM

Oh...I thought Vios and Avanza are also made by Toyota so thought all have some Toyota DNA.

I'm doing more research on the VW Passat as I'm almost made up my mind about placing my order for it tomorrow but right now and I'm really not liking what I read.

It seems like a lot of people have issues with the DSG 7S gearbox which is what the Passat is using. Looking at VAGSG is no help either, horrendous stories about the mechatronics failure is making me think twice about committing to the VW Passat.

The models most affected are Golf GTI owners, ROC owners, Jetta owners and even Polo owners are not spared. Owners of the Passat CC are also affected.... so this is definitely bothering me a lot.

Urgh...

I have a gut feeling UMW will put in VSC to their Camry because it's such an inexcusable thing to omit it. Even cheap Proton Preve have it and the just face lifted City also. I will wait a bit longer.

If you drive a Camry you may get carnapped. If you drive a Citroen, even when you leave the doors open nobody will steal it!

i wont mind driving one away, especially it is a C6, or even a C5

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Added on June 21, 2012, 5:29 pmi tell u what Zweimmk, better buy camry, take the 2.5V and leave the rest. Cause if you wanna worry about DSG GB, then better dont go near there. DSG, very good, but very expensive.

if you dont like the idea of cars breaking down, take the toyota,

This post has been edited by sonyman: Jun 21 2012, 05:29 PM

You may be right. But looking at the Camry, I already feel ripped off. If I buy that, I may end up hating the car itself. And even worse, UMW Toyota is just going to continue offering lame specs at ridiculous prices because the demand is still there.

Damned if I do, and damned if I don't

I brainwash you now. take passat or u will regret

There is a 3rd alternative...get a cheap car now and wait for something else coming along in future that you like and have no worry. Since it is a cheap car, you wouldn't lost much, hopefully.

I was in almost similar situation and guess what? i got a Proton

then you are left with not much of a choice. Passat, DSG issue, Camry Rip off, Teana, you may not like, Accord, not so good, Peugeot 508, you hate naza, kia K5 also naza issue,

seems like you got to take it or leave it, you now understand how toyota trap their buyers and force them to make the decision blindly to buy a camry and get over with it.

that is why they remove the VSC and remain the GB and engine, you are bound to buy the product if you make a lot of research on other makes, because in the end u will put your money in the camry, while your logic tells u you should not, but your doubt on other cars tells you, that u must because there isnt other choices.

in the end you didnt buy anything and kept on waiting. Wait and wait for the next few years, nothing much will change. So in the end u went out there and say, wtf, wtf just buy the bloody camry lah, even deep down there u hate the car so much and you know u made the wrong decision, this is what will happen to you when u go listen to toyota talk.

take the bold move, now is the time to change, choose the car u love, ask ur self, not ppl here, what u love, i love the volvo's and i took the bold move to buy a s40, worry about the rest later. enjoy the ride first, because if 21 dec 2012 is true then u be even more damm. haha.

so choose, ask the heart, unless u are the conservative buyer which is trap in our malaysian toyota camry world, so many here will say u are no brainer, others will think u made a right move, but urself, hate the car so much,
who;s to blame, blame urself not allowing urself to experience other makes. dont blame the gomen, toyota and even the auntie and uncle. blame urself

I spoke to my buddy about potential issues and his verdict was... if the car is covered under warranty then any problem, bring it back. Like it or not, they have to fix the problem. As long as the car has warranty, then you don't have to worry about paying a single cent if problem arises. That's what the 5 year warranty is for.

I guess at the end of the day, regardless of the car you buy, if you unlucky, even a Mercedes will also make you vomit blood.

Tomorrow, I'm going with my wife to Cergaz for a final extended test drive. She's going to be the driver this time and then I'll decide based on her feedback.

Optiplex330: That's why I thought about doing. Buy the Camry 2.0G, take a 3 year loan, then sell off at the end of the 2nd or 3rd year and move onto something better. But the feeling of being ripped off is damn strong and I'm not sure if I can tahan driving a car that I may end up hating for the next 3 years.

Dude, don't ever buy something that you don't like or hate it so much, if you like Passat, just get it, don't care about the GB, like I like the Teana, and first scare the GB as well, but after getting the car, totally love it, no regret. Just go for it dude.

cant agree more.

since the car are 100k. you will careless about resell value. others might in your consideration else.
if you like, just buy it.

Well, you want the high tech, but you don't want anything high tech cause that can fail. Uhm... It also explains the popularity of the Camry. People think... good, nothing modern was used in the car, so it will be reliable.

I must say I quite like the DSG in the Touran. Makes the most out of the engine, smooth, fast, ...

Oh yeah, the warranty is good. At least the SC I went to seems friendly and professional (and very bored. Brought the car there, and few minutes later half the SC was standing there looking at the car, what is wrong with it etc. ;D ).

If Camry, get an older one. Last gen for example. Same car as the new one, but lower price.

Otherwise: If you want a Passat, you might as well go for a 2006 or 2007 Skoda Superb. It's a Passat from that era, but with a longer wheel base. Good car without the fancy gearbox. Price is very low, so easy to stomach. Can buy a new car later. Or the new Superb, if a Passat just doesn't have enough class and space and you want to enter the executive saloon segment/feel like a boss. It's a bit more though.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jun 21 2012, 10:28 PM

Buy a car and sell within 3 years? Dont mean to rude bro, ure either very rich or you really have poor financial planning. Nobody sells cars <5 years as the drop in resale value is really high even for Toyota. And mind you these are D segment cars which do not enjoy good resale value compared to B & C segments.

But never try and convince yourself about a car. If you gut feel says this car isnt for you then dont buy it. But you gotta make sure your criteria is right first. Not everybody will have the same criteria but generally there are alot of similarities. For me safety, value for money, design and comfort are important. Then comes warranties and after sales service.

For me the Kia Optima K5 satifies most (if not all) the factors above. I spend alot of time researching cars long before a particular model is launched and after that i spent extensive time test driving. For your info, i test drove the Optima 9 times before buying.

You may have a different opinion but this is what i think anyway. Cheers!

i also buy car and sell around 2-3 years. if car i like then i keep. dun like then i sell.

12 years i working been change 7 car liao my marney gone but I r happy cause I like to drove new car

My friend says I'm a car slut. LOL. But generally, I sell what I drive after 3 to 4 years. My loan is never longer than 5 years. This is also the reason why I dropped the idea of buying a luxury car marque because the idea of taking a 7 year loan does not sit well with me.

My current ride has been with me for 4 years and it's really time to let it go.

I estimate this car will sell in the range of 100 ~ 120k after 4 years, I believe if I sell this car with 1 year warranty left, the drop in value would probably still give me back about 90 to 100k after settlement with the bank. But we'll see what happens, no point talking about what will happen in 2016 when I haven't even buy the car yet. LOL

That is assuming there is a service center in your town especially VW.