Bro, there is a difference. ESP can do what Traction Control can do but Traction Control cannot accomplish what ESP accomplishes.

The traction control system is designed to prevent the drive wheels from losing their grip on the road while the car is accelerating. The stability control system is designed to prevent the car from sliding when either the accelerator or brakes have been applied.

Both the traction control and stability control systems utilize speed sensors from the ABS brake systems. If the sensors detect that the wheels are not gripping correctly, traction control will use the brake system to slow the speed of the vehicle or reduce power to the wheels to slow the vehicle and restore grip.

Stability control will use the ABS speed sensors along with additional wheel angle sensor and yaw rate sensor to check the rate of understeer and oversteer being used. It will then apply the brakes or throttle to the wheels so that the driver can regain control.

Another good video on ESP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3m24bjkfg0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQq-4KYBxsI

Really dont know how Toyota can remove this basic system in the Malaysian Camry's. Really a pathetic decision by Toyota especially since ESP's dont really cost that much.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 27 2012, 07:38 PM

So its 11.3km/L in 100% city driving right? That adds up to approx 700+km per full tank. So its basically the same as the 2.0L Optima K5 consumption in city driving which makes sense for most D segment cars.

But have you actually done an actual test of your range using the fill up-measure-fill up again method?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 27 2012, 07:37 PM

If it's the same as k5, it means that its fc is better since it is powered by a 2.5L engine.

But it is true. TC makes your car go forward without smoking tyres... useful with snow, ice and ps monsters. otherwise not really important. Only helps you not look like a fool over here.
ESP is what helps you avoid crashing by stopping under and oversteer.

My colleague also just delivered his 2.5 Camry and from what he told me, fully city drive is KL area, with plenty of traffic light, bump, jam, junction, he only able to clocked 8.4km/l of fc, so now i'm quite confuse about the so call 100% of city drive, 100% of city drive and can get 11.3km/l with such big body, then this is close to c-segment fc already.

Based on 350z, TC for normal road car only work for/when tyre losing grip & not to prevent tyre spin (F1 TC)... When the car tyre losing grip, TC will activate & hold the car from accelerate even push the pedal to the floor, car won't respond & accelerate until tyre grip return..

This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Jun 28 2012, 12:23 AM

Isn't that the same? When I kick down in the Cross Touran the TC light shortly flashes, and there is no squeaking sound...

Is this Average Fuel Consumption or Instantaneous Fuel Consumption?

U must remember that Kepalapening is from Perlis and there isnt much traffic in the city as compared to KL. So his FC for 100% city drive is not really the actual scenario we are used to in KL and other major cities.

erm... actually... nvm

but i will be glad to show u TC/ESP/VSA/DSC is +/- about the same with the exception on how different manufacturer program the ECU/gyro sensor differently and then repackage it into a whole system..

the you-tube there is very layman... great video to make the normal user's understand all this 3 words acronym...



edit:
UMW remove ESP so that when its time for facelift.. they can say... ESP added to the feature's list... so now please pay RM 10,000 more


This post has been edited by kcng: Jun 28 2012, 02:45 PM

ESP, VSA, DSC are all the same i agree. They just use different terminology. But Traction Control is something different from all this.

You know at the end of the day, the Camry has none of that so no point discussing about it until the facelift arrives, during which, it may or may not have VSC and that's at least 3 years away.

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Added on June 28, 2012, 3:58 pmAlso not accurate to say it's UMW that did it. They are guilty for profiteering but quite frankly, the biggest culprit is Toyota trying to make a quick buck from the S.E.Asia region

I just checked all the Camry spec throughout the following Countries:

Singapore
Thailand
Malaysia
Indonesia
Taiwan

All the 2.5V or 2.5G spec Camry sold throughout these countries DO NOT HAVE VSC and TRC. The same goes for 2.0 version

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jun 28 2012, 04:10 PM

All those countries above have the same version of Camry so no point comparing.

What i meant was, it's not UMW that's guilty of the lame spec. UMW is guilty for charging higher price for less equipment and safety otherwise, its TOYOTA's lame strategy for the region to offer less stuff

this region is water fish ma

Do they offer the legendary aerokit?

somehow i found out Iran's national car has better design compared to this all new fugly camry

Are u sure bo, this ugly car is nicer than new Camry?

At least it is not uglier. But really the design I can live with, but the rest of the car... I'd take Preve CFE over it. Even if the price was similar.