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 Are property prices going to up further? V3

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post Oct 5 2011, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Oct 5 2011, 02:33 PM)
Not really, still got a lot ppl playing both site....my group of friend all play both game.....now a bit suffer lah....fire kena tangan oledi.

One of my friend earn 400k++ from share market since 2008 - Jun 2011 and then he very tamak lor July 2011 go to refinace 2 prop and cash out 400k and pump in to share market and more "sohai" is almost all the money buy to same counter..... cry.gif

Now the counter share all the way down from RM1.80 drop to RM1.20++, last week i makan with him...he's want me to belanja......wei...brother he's is Millionaire ler....muka masam sangat lor....

Now needed to serve many loan lor....CC (money cash out to share market), Car loan (new car jz bought this year), 3 props loan (last time only serve 1 housing loan).

Now he's is a little bit scare oledi, think until kepala besar to find solution and call out "lan heng lan di" to help.....
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This is the most basic mistake for people buying shares.
Once the share price goes down they keep it, thinking it will go back up again in the future.
Unfortunately sometimes it doesn't.




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post Oct 5 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 5 2011, 04:12 PM)
This is the most basic mistake for people buying shares.
Once the share price goes down they keep it, thinking it will go back up again in the future.
Unfortunately sometimes it doesn't.
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some ppl still willing to keep it for 10 yrs... till become toilet paper...
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post Oct 5 2011, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(lch78 @ Oct 4 2011, 10:37 PM)
Don't think the stock crisis will lead to property crisis. Slowdown and more freebies/discounts for buying properties might be on its way.
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They will they're all connected. shares not doing well, companies don't do well (despite physically doing well). Everybody gets scared and buy less. causing an economic crisis.

People who take loans on props, start to feel the heat, when their income is effected.

Banks have already pulled back their sentiments on loan. It's high time, speculators themselves, woke up.
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post Oct 5 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Oct 5 2011, 11:59 AM)
very few are playing both prop and share.  for me, i am now more into prop. coz i dun hv time to trade/monitor share.  already cash out my share before 2008 crashed and concentrate in prop til now. since prop is not so liquid so it is difficult for me to go back to share now. now prefer to have stable passive income (rental).
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I'm into both, but more into shares. Am very selective when it comes to property ..... I'm a control freak and just don't have the temperament for maintenance and dealing with difficult ppl. Funny thing is, I made much more from property than stocks, especially after the market meltdown of the last couple of months laugh.gif


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QUOTE(22222222 @ Oct 5 2011, 02:33 PM)
Not really, still got a lot ppl playing both site....my group of friend all play both game.....now a bit suffer lah....fire kena tangan oledi.

One of my friend earn 400k++ from share market since 2008 - Jun 2011 and then he very tamak lor July 2011 go to refinace 2 prop and cash out 400k and pump in to share market and more "sohai" is almost all the money buy to same counter..... cry.gif

Now the counter share all the way down from RM1.80 drop to RM1.20++, last week i makan with him...he's want me to belanja......wei...brother he's is Millionaire ler....muka masam sangat lor....

Now needed to serve many loan lor....CC (money cash out to share market), Car loan (new car jz bought this year), 3 props loan (last time only serve 1 housing loan).

Now he's is a little bit scare oledi, think until kepala besar to find solution and call out "lan heng lan di" to help.....
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If you friend wants to sell his properties (or even car) at a big discount, let me know. Maybe we can work something out.

This post has been edited by Veda: Oct 5 2011, 05:11 PM
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post Oct 5 2011, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Oct 5 2011, 02:33 PM)
Not really, still got a lot ppl playing both site....my group of friend all play both game.....now a bit suffer lah....fire kena tangan oledi.

One of my friend earn 400k++ from share market since 2008 - Jun 2011 and then he very tamak lor July 2011 go to refinace 2 prop and cash out 400k and pump in to share market and more "sohai" is almost all the money buy to same counter..... cry.gif

Now the counter share all the way down from RM1.80 drop to RM1.20++, last week i makan with him...he's want me to belanja......wei...brother he's is Millionaire ler....muka masam sangat lor....

Now needed to serve many loan lor....CC (money cash out to share market), Car loan (new car jz bought this year), 3 props loan (last time only serve 1 housing loan).

Now he's is a little bit scare oledi, think until kepala besar to find solution and call out "lan heng lan di" to help.....
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Looks like your friend could be fire selling his property soon ?

Btw refinance property to speculate in stock is just too risky
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post Oct 5 2011, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Oct 5 2011, 02:33 PM)
Not really, still got a lot ppl playing both site....my group of friend all play both game.....now a bit suffer lah....fire kena tangan oledi.

One of my friend earn 400k++ from share market since 2008 - Jun 2011 and then he very tamak lor July 2011 go to refinace 2 prop and cash out 400k and pump in to share market and more "sohai" is almost all the money buy to same counter..... cry.gif

Now the counter share all the way down from RM1.80 drop to RM1.20++, last week i makan with him...he's want me to belanja......wei...brother he's is Millionaire ler....muka masam sangat lor....

Now needed to serve many loan lor....CC (money cash out to share market), Car loan (new car jz bought this year), 3 props loan (last time only serve 1 housing loan).

Now he's is a little bit scare oledi, think until kepala besar to find solution and call out "lan heng lan di" to help.....
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God bless him... Bad Bad times are coming

Once things not handled properly... Millionaire jadi bankruptcy


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post Oct 5 2011, 07:39 PM

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http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A

"The FED is printing money like toilet paper and causing inflation. Inflation is a hidden tax that only benefiting people at the top."

Guys, If I told you 200 years ago, we had zero inflation for more than 100 years, would you believe it? It is because we had gold standard, so that savers could save honest money without losing purchasing power, and didn't have to speculate in properties/stocks like we are doing now to "hedge against inflation", and people at the top couldn't steal our wealth through inflation...



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post Oct 5 2011, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Oct 5 2011, 07:39 PM)
http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A

"The FED is printing money like toilet paper and causing inflation. Inflation is a hidden tax that only benefiting people at the top."

Guys, If I told you 200 years ago, we had zero inflation for more than 100 years, would you believe it? It is because we had gold standard, so that savers could save honest money without losing purchasing power, and didn't have to speculate in properties/stocks like we are doing now to "hedge against inflation", and people at the top couldn't steal our wealth through inflation...
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lolll....why not you go back to 100 years ago?

World is changed la....looking forwards. vmad.gif
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post Oct 5 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Oct 5 2011, 03:12 PM)
This is the most basic mistake for people buying shares.
Once the share price goes down they keep it, thinking it will go back up again in the future.
Unfortunately sometimes it doesn't.
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Money for risky investment is money you can afford to loose.. if not then don't play2..


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post Oct 6 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(obiey @ Oct 5 2011, 11:26 PM)
Money for risky investment is money you can afford to loose.. if not then don't play2..
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Even afford to lose but still heart pain le brother ... It's hard earn money after all
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post Oct 6 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(keithcky @ Oct 5 2011, 08:24 PM)
God bless him... Bad Bad times are coming

Once things not handled properly... Millionaire jadi bankruptcy
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Formula to become millionare...

$$ borrow from bank + Prop capital apppreciation = Millionare/Multimillionare on paper
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post Oct 6 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(obiey @ Oct 5 2011, 11:26 PM)
Money for risky investment is money you can afford to loose.. if not then don't play2..
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I hope not too many people playing with properties.
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post Oct 6 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Oct 6 2011, 08:42 AM)
Formula to become millionare...

$$ borrow from bank + Prop capital apppreciation = Millionare/Multimillionare on paper
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We should never declare the props r ours when v r stil loaded w bank debts. Nothing to b proud of when its stil belong to banks. Can onli call ourselves slaves to the banks.

Sad!!!
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post Oct 6 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(22222222 @ Oct 5 2011, 02:33 PM)
Not really, still got a lot ppl playing both site....my group of friend all play both game.....now a bit suffer lah....fire kena tangan oledi.

One of my friend earn 400k++ from share market since 2008 - Jun 2011 and then he very tamak lor July 2011 go to refinace 2 prop and cash out 400k and pump in to share market and more "sohai" is almost all the money buy to same counter..... cry.gif

Now the counter share all the way down from RM1.80 drop to RM1.20++, last week i makan with him...he's want me to belanja......wei...brother he's is Millionaire ler....muka masam sangat lor....

Now needed to serve many loan lor....CC (money cash out to share market), Car loan (new car jz bought this year), 3 props loan (last time only serve 1 housing loan).

Now he's is a little bit scare oledi, think until kepala besar to find solution and call out "lan heng lan di" to help.....
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nothing to blame on share nor properties market, blame it on his greed...
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QUOTE(nelsontan_8383 @ Oct 6 2011, 12:41 AM)
Even afford to lose but still heart pain le brother ... It's hard earn money after all
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That's why lorr.. don't play2.. know when to stop lost...and let it go.. the same with taking profit..

Don't mix high risk investment with emotion..
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post Oct 6 2011, 11:27 AM

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which counter he bought?
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post Oct 6 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(debtismoney @ Oct 5 2011, 07:39 PM)
http://youtu.be/rQow0Fhua1A

"The FED is printing money like toilet paper and causing inflation. Inflation is a hidden tax that only benefiting people at the top."

Guys, If I told you 200 years ago, we had zero inflation for more than 100 years, would you believe it? It is because we had gold standard, so that savers could save honest money without losing purchasing power, and didn't have to speculate in properties/stocks like we are doing now to "hedge against inflation", and people at the top couldn't steal our wealth through inflation...
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Don't forget, US still own the highest gold reserve.

You want to play with US? They can also dump gold any time when bubble at the peak. icon_idea.gif

If I am a nation, I'll buy energy ie crude oil etc. I'll buy useful commodities where you can keep long long time like copper as reserve.

What is the value of gold if you cannot travel without fuel, power industry cannot develop without copper?

Oh ya, use gold to replace copper! laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 6 2011, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Oct 6 2011, 01:34 PM)
Don't forget, US still own the highest gold reserve.

You want to play with US? They can also dump gold any time when bubble at the peak.  icon_idea.gif

If I am a nation, I'll buy energy ie crude oil etc. I'll buy useful commodities where you can keep long long time like copper as reserve.

What is the value of gold if you cannot travel without fuel, power industry cannot develop without copper?

Oh ya, use gold to replace copper!  laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thats the right and logical thing to do.
Guess whats china is doing, gobbling up commodities / raw materials production companies to ensure future supply. Smart.

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Oct 6 2011, 01:34 PM)
Don't forget, US still own the highest gold reserve.

You want to play with US? They can also dump gold any time when bubble at the peak.  icon_idea.gif

If I am a nation, I'll buy energy ie crude oil etc. I'll buy useful commodities where you can keep long long time like copper as reserve.

What is the value of gold if you cannot travel without fuel, power industry cannot develop without copper?

Oh ya, use gold to replace copper!   laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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do u know that gold is a better conductor than copper?
the wires in IC chips are gold, electronics...
some migrating to copper because copper is cheaper
if not they will continue use gold...

gold is not entirely useless...

http://www.goldelement.info/What-Is-Gold-U...ld-Used-For.php

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post Oct 6 2011, 03:42 PM

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Updated 90% of the property reports @ http://www.propwall.my/kuala_lumpur/reports

Based on our observation, Taman Desa / Bukit Jalil property prices have experienced sharp increase over the last 2 years, while KLCC and Mont Kiara prices have dropped slightly. Besides, overall landed residential properties have increased significantly over the years.


Source: http://blog.propwall.com/post/11094639780/...rty-report-2011

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