u buy in brunei, then plate register in brunei, so u are PR in brunei?
otherwise u still kena import tax.

yup, i got PR from brunei

anyone know what is the current K5 offer?
i get to know from the sales person that price will increase 5k, not sure is true or fake one...btw, the sales person is not from KIA one.

Sometimes 'gold rain in other country, better stone rain in own country' can't be used when come to FnF...

RM143,888 & RM68k ..
What da FuQ %@%#@$%@$@%

Thought the prices is around RM120k++ for 2.0 is still acceptable
But who knows came out RM143,888 ! Sh*T

1 more reason to kick out the cronies in this country!

what to do, make more money lar...complaining also no use.

before this discuss about FD, after this discuss about cronies lak...
no no no no...

Fr wat i understand, kia has been trying to shed the "cheap sh*t" image n producing better quality cars. I went to c the k5 again n i find the built quality impressive. Change my perception immediately.
Dun think they r in tt league of producing luxury cars yet. Its a pricing strategy, camry n accord is due for replacement. K5 is a 2010 model. They know once T&H launch, their price will b higher. I believe naza is banking on tt rational.

This post has been edited by DAVE008: Jan 30 2012, 07:13 PM

Even my father Sorento 2.4 is very stable.... Expect the Optima to be better due to lower ride height....

Yes i've test drive it.... Very stable... As an owner of Honda Accord 2.4 too, my father is amazed by this Optima...

1 person complaint yes not very effective. However 1 million people complaints then we'll see.

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Added on January 30, 2012, 9:41 pmThats said it all about Malaysia motoring industry & the government failure isnt it. 1 tiny neighbour country capable of offering their citizen incentive. RM143k thats Audi, Merc, BMW territory. Malaysia consumers really are suckers arent we.

This post has been edited by IpohLad: Jan 30 2012, 09:41 PM

Well lads, venting your anger here won't do you any good

Just to add salt to the wound..... the Camaro (Bumblebee) cost like RM400K+ in Bolehland and it only costs a measly USD20K+(RM80K) in the US!

Anyway, Election is just around the corner, do the right thing!

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Jan 30 2012, 10:31 PM

Got some info bout the upcoming Toyota Camry 2.0L. 146Hp and 190Nm torque. The new Optima churns out 163Hp and 198Nm torque. The Optima is also 19mm longer with 20mm longer wheelbase compared to the Camry.

Pretty pathetic figures for a new generation Camry. Almost no difference from current model. Aiya!

Btw, just noticed that the Optima and Forte 2.0L have different engines. Thought they were the same. The Forte 2.0L churns out 154Hp and 194Nm torque only but with a lighter body.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jan 31 2012, 08:36 AM

Is it? I thought they were both Theta II engine, the only difference was the optima is tuned more aggressively. Guess i was wrong. Good info.

The one in the Forte is the single CVVT (intake side only) while the one in both the Sonata and Optima is a dual CVVT (intake and exhaust). That's the only difference.

Ok makes sense then. So that means fuel consumption should be better right? Isnt the CVVT similar to the one on the Sylphy and Altis 2.0V?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jan 31 2012, 10:17 AM

Never ever judge a car by its paper specs. K5 might hv better looking specs on paper but does it perform well in real life? I doubt so

The paper specs will clearly tell you about the engine performance. From the kerb weight, hp and torque you can easily know just how powerful the car will be in real. Drivability & handling cant be determined by specs and everybody knows that.

Btw, check my earlier replies. I have tested the Kia Optima and i was impressed. Dont forget im a die hard Toyota man so for me to say im impressed speaks volumes bout the Optima.

Based on ur initial test drive, which part of the power band would u improve bcoz lacking? Lo, mid or hi.

Fyi, saw a silver k5 on the road today. Wwf plate. Stunning esp wif the bright led drls.