sorry pal havent test driven any 508, sat in a non moving one. well no one would let me try one. anyway i know back seat is a little cramp. well if thats the case then this 508 probably a flop here loh, especially every single road in PJ has speed bump. u said 10 yrs old suspension means it sinks totally in and hit the bumps? well if its the case then it is bad.

but optima should at least fair better. or else another flop, back to the drawing boards, camry it shall be.

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Added on January 24, 2012, 2:51 pm

friend u complain so much, what in your mind is a good looking car? honda City? honda civic? or honda accord. Yucks, no taste, civic 2012, taste like porridge with no salt. ya i know, resale value mah... driving dynamics mah.. i still feel altis is a better buy than civic,.. ya i know, altis where got power..
altis suspension better than civic mah., dual VVti better than inteligent Vtec mah.. haha, what to argue. nothin, so how? just buy the car u like and keep you bad thoughts to yourself we all here know you are jealous of the Forte, no doubt, if you see forte try no to puke in your own car. its very very messy.
at least forte is getting more and more on the road, in just about 2 to 3 years since it was given birth here. i hope the new civic they will increase price more than 10k so that the Koreans would look like better buy. and your honda will always be better resale value. everyone win.

Got some info bout the upcoming Toyota Camry 2.0L. 146Hp and 190Nm torque. The new Optima churns out 163Hp and 198Nm torque. The Optima is also 19mm longer with 20mm longer wheelbase compared to the Camry.

Pretty pathetic figures for a new generation Camry. Almost no difference from current model. Aiya!

Btw, just noticed that the Optima and Forte 2.0L have different engines. Thought they were the same. The Forte 2.0L churns out 154Hp and 194Nm torque only but with a lighter body.

i'm very much interested with the new K5 as i'm looking for my 2nd car. few options including K5. went to KIA showroom in glenmarie shah alam today to see it.

was amazed by the size of the boot! its huge!
then there was it. nothing else impressed me.
the built can be say slightly lower than japs, but with 5 yr warranty i dont think u need to worry much.
but the dashboard / fascia plastic is not up to my expectation.
the door are not as solid as japs, IMHO, no nice 'tummbb' sound and felt light
the leather inside was not impressive, stitching and quality
somehow i dont see myself driving this car in the future so i ended up my visit in only 15 mins
by the way, the sales person said they are doing a customer day next weekend, so u can test drive car, including K5.

So good meh? I was just setting E250 as my mid term goal. Any way, I've just parked my car beside a camry and accord yesterday and spent some time looking at them. ail else ignored, K5's design is at least two generations ahead of the other two. No offence.

Yes but i guess ure paying for the brand and also the technology. But the K5 beats the Audi with its exterior design. The K5 is a head turner while the Audi will be just another common site on the road with not much to differentiate between the various models except for the DRL's.

The A4 will cost approx RM 2300 per month for 9 yrs while the Optima will cost RM 1500 for 7 yrs. Audi comes with 2 years unlimited mileage warranty and 15,000km (every 9 months with my driving distance) servicing intervals.

Today went to test drive k5...

Not much power. No oomp...

The exterior is too stylish....will easily outdate...
Interior not so comfort....as well

I think i cant see any reason for me to buy this car in future.

Uikksssss...suddenly showed up when w111w can't tahan any more?????or...wrongly intention which ID to used ??.....never mind, sometimes we makes mistake bro.

So now the Optima is value for money?? After all that crap talk about the Optima you suddenly change and now say its value for money? Your own shit must taste really bitter when swallowed eh?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1931461?author=kevin23

And no i dont assume i know everything about cars. If i did i wont be on LYN asking questions and sharing my experiences. Again more of your childish assumptions. I know what i know and what i know i share immediately. If i dont know something, ill ask questions. Never ashamed to say i dont know. There are no winners. Just losers like you who cant hold a candle to the more senior ppl in LYN. At least we speak with facts while ure just full of hot air. Im still waiting for your facts regarding why the Theta II engine is worse than the Camry or other similar Jap models. So far uve completely ignored this dare as with all previous dares. A typical trait of someone who blows hot air.

Btw, here's one of the many 'hot air' threads started by this bum. Have fun reading it and laughing! Perfect way to end a typical working day:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2085419/+20

haha..yeah we got ur 'honest' opinion..so move on..and no need to create so many account ID just to express ur opinion 

Correction: YOU can't win arguing with me cuz i argue with FACTS while u argue with HOT AIR.

and nah..sorry to disappoint you..i dont have any multi million properties..just a few hundred k's. But unlike your Merc C250 fantasy, mine is real. Are u still renting at Casa Kiara 2 with your C250? I suppose the pre-regis Polo u bought last year was just for your maid eh? 

how u guys drive until can get 600 to 700km?? my mileage now 2000km, so far full tank RM120 can get max 520km only (mostly city drive)

This is a common issue. Thats why we must be careful. By putting quieter tyres, your engine sound will become more pronounced. So although u may have eradicated most of the road noise but what you get in replacement is a louder engine.

So always have due consideration before changing. The PS3 tyres arent cheap and it will set you back more than RM3K and ull still end up with the same sound levels albeit from a different source.

But then again, the PS3 is also for safety not just sound reduction.

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Added on April 10, 2012, 12:34 pm

How to start one when im not even an owner yet? 

This is the reason why u will always be a wannabe renting a property while going around telling lies about owning a Merc C250 CGI. Only a fool like u will not be able to understand simple basic English. 

So for retarded losers like you, allow me to explain in simpler terms. What i said in my post earlier was the engine sound becomes more pronounced by using quieter tyres. Dont u understand the difference between becomes louder and becomes more pronounced? That's the reason why u are the least respected forumer on LYN and also in real life. Must be really painful to get thrashed so often on LYN because of your limited brain cells eh. 

This is a common issue. Thats why we must be careful. By putting quieter tyres, your engine sound will become more pronounced. So although u may have eradicated most of the road noise but what you get in replacement is a louder engine.

So always have due consideration before changing. The PS3 tyres arent cheap and it will set you back more than RM3K and ull still end up with the same sound levels albeit from a different source.

But then again, the PS3 is also for safety not just sound reduction.

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Added on April 10, 2012, 12:34 pm

How to start one when im not even an owner yet? 

Nope everybody else here understood perfectly well what i meant. It was YOu was was desperately trying to cover up your screwup because u didnt realise that if u changed to a quieter tyre the engine noise would become more pronounced. its YOU who needs to try harder kiddo.

Do gimme a buzz when u change the tyres on your imaginary C250 CGI or the pre-reg Polo and lemme know how the engine sounds. Oh sorry i forgot...u need to actually have the car in order to hear the engine. Maybe use up some of that last remaining EPF funds to buy your new tyres (i assume u have some money left after paying off your PTPN loan).  LOL!