Nokia N9 V1, Experience Perfect Fluidity
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NOKIA N9
 Official Product Specification :  Some of the official application for MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Phone Announcement & Demos : » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « More detail on spec : http://bit.ly/jSdu6U Expected release month & price Nokia N9 16GB – RM1,799 Nokia N9 64GB – RM2,088 N9 Official Website This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Oct 6 2011, 07:15 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:47 AM
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99 Gallery Picture of Nokia N9
Try MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan UI Here Try MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan UI Here Pt2 Engadget 1st hands-on PhoneArena video Hands-on » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Real Golf 2 running on Nokia N9 demo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « NFS Shift & Galaxy Fire Demo in N9 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Setting up your Nokia N9 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Sep 30 2011, 08:51 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:42 AM
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Woo, new thread. Might want to put all those demo videos in [ spoiler ][ /spoiler ] tags, super_evil_alien.
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Jun 23 2011, 10:44 AM
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woo new "proper" thread XD
when n9 gotta coming to misa ar? |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 22 2011, 06:50 PM) Huge improvement over Symbian? Is this guy just some random guy who doesn't know Symbian and Meego is totally different? O.O Well, in a way, compared to Symbian it is.   Hard to compared with Maemo; It looks so different, this is like coming from a different OS. Although it is called Maemo6, but it like a totally different NEW OS, or based on ANOTHER different OS. So much is changed, that it has lost it's root. I think they want to start fresh and all over; Those people from Maemo need to jump, those developers and their app, esepcially their desktop widgets, etc. All the impressive and hard work can go down the drain unless they stay back on Maemo5 which is still incomplete, and probabyl never will QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 03:57 AM) another question bout maemo6/meego again.the maemo5(N900) chinese language is not preinstalled and i did so steps/mod in order to enable the chinese input method in N900.i hope the N9 isn't like this.this is frustrating. Well, Maemo5 was an incomplete OS; There's still so much feature missing and can be improve/add on. It has a lot of potential, but the Papa and Mama decided to let it go. The last of the Maemo Tablet OS, going down in history. |
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WOOOOHHOOOOO!!!!
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Jun 23 2011, 10:48 AM
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bah... I have lost hope in all Nokia phones.
however great this phone may be, I don't think many developers will bother developing apps for this phone (OS) because we all know Nokia will eventually use windows phone OS. |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:49 AM
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Finally an official topic about it. should be v2
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Jun 23 2011, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:25 AM) didnt see any hole for HDMI Micro-USB port?  MHL port maybe?  Added on June 23, 2011, 10:50 am QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 10:49 AM) Finally an official topic about it. should be v2  beat N8 with info not with spam. This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 23 2011, 10:50 AM |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:53 AM
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Most probably this phone won't come with HDMI out.Due to hardware limitation or whatsoever.
But things might change in final product. |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 10:53 AM) But things might change in final product. I don't think so....this september, this what will be in store...It might change on next revision aka next cycle.. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 10:53 AM) Most probably this phone won't come with HDMI out.Due to hardware limitation or whatsoever. N9 GsmarenaBut things might change in final product. We need a more powerful Graphics Chip like seriously. SGX530 is so weak.  |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:02 AM
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1024MB RAM? Nice nice...
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Jun 23 2011, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 12:00 PM) wait for n9-01. current n9 should be single core arm8 sgx530, n9-01 might get dual-core tegra2 or quad-core tegra3 codename Kal-El |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 11:00 AM) IF can handle .mkv natively okay already |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 11:02 AM) wait for n9-01. current n9 should be single core arm8 sgx530, n9-01 might get dual-core tegra2 or quad-core tegra3 codename Kal-El But dear Elop said only 1 Meego device will be released to the mass market this year.  |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 12:04 PM) But dear Elop said only 1 Meego device will be released to the mass market this year. Next year I mean. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:09 AM
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hopefully end of August 2011...
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Jun 23 2011, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Ghostblind @ Jun 23 2011, 12:09 PM) hopefully end of August 2011... Some country will get N9 next month (probably Finland). Worldwide will be this September, so... Malaysia will either get this phone October or November |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:12 AM
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No pricing revealed right?
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Jun 23 2011, 11:14 AM
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y noooo andorid or winmo ?
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Jun 23 2011, 11:15 AM
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 On Tuesday, Nokia announced its first mobile phone with its new operating system MeeGo. Nokia N9 is a delicious touch screen mobile phone with innovative interface and with no physical buttons on the front. Nokia N9 will be available for sale from 3 September 23 this year. Because the Nokia N9 is a touchscreen mobile without buttons are all navigating the phone's interface with the shrouds from the right, left, top or bottom. Mobile has three home screens, the first is for all apps and the other for the thumbnails that show which apps are open. The third collects all the events - which gives an overview of messages, calendar appointments and status updates from social networks. By double-clicking, you can turn on and off the screen. The cell phone has a 3.9 inch AMOLED screen with Gorilla ice cream and the skin around your phone that is molded in one piece is made of polycarbonate plastic, which gives a very solid impression. The cell phone has a Carl Zeiss camera with 8-megapixel, dual ledblixtar and video recording in HD resolution. In addition to sending pictures as email, MMS or upload them to Facebook, you can use NFC to transfer pictures to another phone. When using headphones, there is support for both Dolby Headphone and Dolby Digital Plus - which Nokia claims to be first among mobile manufacturers. SOURCE This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 23 2011, 11:16 AM |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Yogi BoY @ Jun 23 2011, 12:14 PM) y noooo andorid or winmo ? WP7 phone will be W series. And nokia won't be getting android. lah!! |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 23 2011, 10:59 AM) I don't think so....this september, this what will be in store... I salute Stefan Elop for having balls of steel to kill Symbian (although very slowly).But he pissed quite a lot people when he removed MeeGo from Nokia plan.It might change on next revision aka next cycle.. If everything went according to Elop's WP7 plan there won't be any MeeGo based product from Nokia ever again. If you to see N9-01,N10 or whatever N from Nokia,you better hope that Nokia's WP7 sucks. QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 11:00 AM) GSMArena's technical detail is not always accurate.It's better to look @ official Nokia technical sheet.From the official technical detail sheet I don't see HDMI support. QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:02 AM) 1024MB RAM? Nice nice... Yup,kinda surprised me too.QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 23 2011, 11:12 AM) No pricing revealed right? According to Nokia's EVP it might be sold around RM2K.Added on June 23, 2011, 11:22 am QUOTE(Yogi BoY @ Jun 23 2011, 11:14 AM) y noooo andorid or winmo ? Because WP7 suck & with Android Nokia can't use some of their value added service.You want Nokia Android phone then go buy N900 & install ANdroid.It's approved by Google as Android device now. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 11:22 AM |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 11:05 AM) Next year I mean. Is it confirmed they will release another MeeGo device next year?I have only heard of N9 and the developer N950. But no news on other MeeGo phones. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 23 2011, 12:23 PM) Is it confirmed they will release another MeeGo device next year? Let's pray2 and play patience games made by Nokia I have only heard of N9 and the developer N950. But no news on other MeeGo phones.  This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jun 23 2011, 11:26 AM |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:21 AM) I salute Stefan Elop for having balls of steel to kill Symbian (although very slowly).But he pissed quite a lot people when he removed MeeGo from Nokia plan. I mean dropping Symbian is an understandable decision but Meego has so much potential but he did the unthinkable.If everything went according to Elop's WP7 plan there won't be any MeeGo based product from Nokia ever again. If you to see N9-01,N10 or whatever N from Nokia,you better hope that Nokia's WP7 sucks. GSMArena's technical detail is not always accurate.It's better to look @ official Nokia technical sheet. From the official technical detail sheet I don't see HDMI support. Yup,kinda surprised me too. According to Nokia's EVP it might be sold around RM2K. On the bright side, he may not be that much of a trojan after all and moving to WP7 is just a move to buy more time and cut down losses to adopt slowly into Meego. Gsmarena has lots of wrong data. I would still hope that they have HDMI. Nobody expects Nokia to not save on hardware and give us 1GB RAM. 2k for 64gb version? If that's the case, not bad but might still be hard to gain extreme sales because SGS2 is only 2099 at launch with far better hardware. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 11:25 AM) Let's pray2 and play patience games made by Nokia Those who have used N900 for a long time have real high patience with Nokia |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 12:27 PM) I mean dropping Symbian is an understandable decision but Meego has so much potential but he did the unthinkable. yeah, another perdiction game of price like what happen to N8. We thought N8 would be >RM2k. But it goes below RM1.7k for first launch. I perdict 16gb will be around RM2.1k while 64gb will be RM2.5kOn the bright side, he may not be that much of a trojan after all and moving to WP7 is just a move to buy more time and cut down losses to adopt slowly into Meego. Gsmarena has lots of wrong data. I would still hope that they have HDMI. Nobody expects Nokia to not save on hardware and give us 1GB RAM. 2k for 64gb version? If that's the case, not bad but might still be hard to gain extreme sales because SGS2 is only 2099 at launch with far better hardware. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 11:29 AM) yeah, another perdiction game of price like what happen to N8. We thought N8 would be >RM2k. But it goes below RM1.7k for first launch. I perdict 16gb will be around RM2.1k while 64gb will be RM2.5k I hate your prediction and hope you get it wrong. So expensive how to sell in the market? Elop's idea? |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 12:31 PM) I hate your prediction and hope you get it wrong. Just follow the market price trend and nokia style. High-end device should be >RM2k (regardless the spec or whatsoever).So expensive how to sell in the market? Elop's idea? and this is nokia first 1ghz and 1gb ram phone. so it will be dirt expensive. This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jun 23 2011, 11:34 AM |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:28 AM) Those who have used N900 for a long time have real high patience with Nokia this^ |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 11:27 AM) I mean dropping Symbian is an understandable decision but Meego has so much potential but he did the unthinkable. Engadget raised a really good point.On the bright side, he may not be that much of a trojan after all and moving to WP7 is just a move to buy more time and cut down losses to adopt slowly into Meego. Gsmarena has lots of wrong data. I would still hope that they have HDMI. Nobody expects Nokia to not save on hardware and give us 1GB RAM. 2k for 64gb version? If that's the case, not bad but might still be hard to gain extreme sales because SGS2 is only 2099 at launch with far better hardware. As end users we don't know how much progress Nokia made with it's MeeGo device.Some of us judged it's progress by looking at MeeGo progress which made good progress with hardware stacks but the UI need further polishing. But Elop as CEO & every access to any Nokia device & he should have seen this device's potential.Quite a lot of American users like the UI but the uncertainty of the OS making them think twice to buy this product. If fund is the big issue Elop have asked Intel to inject some fund into MeeGo. Agreed on the price issue.Reducing the price slightly could have sell the device in larger quantity.Then again was there only 92 000 unit of N9 made as rumored? I'm still trying to get my hand on the N950.If I can get it I'll abort my plan to get a qwerty android device. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:38 AM
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I agree. If WP7 Nokia phones sell badly, then MeeGo might still have a big future.
So far WP7 sales have been pretty poor. LYN WinMo/WP7 forums is the least active of all the Mobile Phone forums. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 23 2011, 11:04 AM) IF can handle .mkv natively okay already i wondering rmvb in 720p can run smoothly?sgs can..i hope this can as well.Bluetooth 2.1   |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 23 2011, 11:04 AM) IF can handle .mkv natively okay already As long as it can install codecs and so on; like the N900, can watch almost any types, even rmvb, just like PC. I think there shouldn't be much issue for this device anyway.QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 11:05 AM) Next year I mean. Next MeeGo device from Nokia (if there is one), might/should be the ACTUAL MeeGo already. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:28 AM) Those who have used N900 for a long time have real high patience with Nokia |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 11:43 AM) i wondering rmvb in 720p can run smoothly?sgs can..i hope this can as well. Third party plugin should be able to play rmvb in 720pBluetooth 2.1 At least it got good NFC support. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:49 AM) Third party plugin should be able to play rmvb in 720p N8 cant play smoothly for rmvb.At least it got good NFC support. |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:38 AM) Engadget raised a really good point. N9 will gain better sales volume if 1. It is priced at an affordable price. 2. Elop announce that Nokia will be investing in Meego to be used for future devices beside WP7. This way, people like it at a cheap price and have the confidence of buying it.As end users we don't know how much progress Nokia made with it's MeeGo device.Some of us judged it's progress by looking at MeeGo progress which made good progress with hardware stacks but the UI need further polishing. But Elop as CEO & every access to any Nokia device & he should have seen this device's potential.Quite a lot of American users like the UI but the uncertainty of the OS making them think twice to buy this product. If fund is the big issue Elop have asked Intel to inject some fund into MeeGo. Agreed on the price issue.Reducing the price slightly could have sell the device in larger quantity.Then again was there only 92 000 unit of N9 made as rumored? I'm still trying to get my hand on the N950.If I can get it I'll abort my plan to get a qwerty android device. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:28 AM) Those who have used N900 for a long time have real high patience with Nokia Added on June 23, 2011, 11:55 am QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 11:51 AM) N8 cant play smoothly for rmvb. Godlike phone cannot play? ARM11 wor? This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 23 2011, 11:55 AM |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:58 AM
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hot swapable micro sd slot???
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Jun 23 2011, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 11:58 AM) hot swapable micro sd slot??? Hot-swappable Micro-Sim slot. MicroSD slot not swappable is ancient era wor? |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 11:59 AM) Hot-swappable Micro-Sim slot. pls nokia....dont do this to me...micro sd is very very useful.dont learn fruit company.MicroSD slot not swappable is ancient era wor? |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 11:58 AM) hot swapable micro sd slot??? TARAK...From my time with N900 I don't use microSD much.Aside from installing Android & MeeGo usually it remain free. IMHO if your memory is big you won't need microSD. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 12:06 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:05 PM
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I can't believe godlike phone cannot play RMVB smoothly!! 12Megapixel largest sensor u know.. cannot play RMVB?
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Jun 23 2011, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 12:04 PM) TARAK... aiks...every single movie in my phone is 720p.my n8 in built 16gb+mmc 16gb occupied by all movies.last time me n chan chan was thinking N9 64gb+32gb mmc would be enough.but now.... From my time with N900 I don't use microSD much.Aside from installing Android & MeeGo usually it remain free. IMHO if your memory is big you won't need microSD.  QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 12:05 PM) I can't believe godlike phone cannot play RMVB smoothly!! 12Megapixel largest sensor u know.. cannot play RMVB? u duno?not even smooth for 480p. this statement make myself sound so dumb.. |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 11:11 AM) Some country will get N9 next month (probably Finland). Worldwide will be this September, so... Malaysia will either get this phone October or November Nokia Malaysia posted in X7 Post in FB, people asked about the N9, Nokia Malaysia replied: Nokia Global plans to start shipping the N9 in 2012 |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 12:10 PM) Nokia Malaysia posted in X7 Post in FB, people asked about the N9, Nokia Malaysia replied: Nokia Global plans to start shipping the N9 in 2012 u serious??joking ba...remember elop plan?announce--->ship...no more 6 months.This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 12:13 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 12:10 PM) aiks...every single movie in my phone is 720p.my n8 in built 16gb+mmc 16gb occupied by all movies.last time me n chan chan was thinking N9 64gb+32gb mmc would be enough.but now.... who care... I just know my phone can play youtube 720p file smoothly.. u duno?not even smooth for 480p. Added on June 23, 2011, 12:15 pm QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 12:10 PM) Nokia Malaysia posted in X7 Post in FB, people asked about the N9, Nokia Malaysia replied: Nokia Global plans to start shipping the N9 in 2012 I heard of soooooooooooooooooooo ... wait wait... soooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......... ooooooooo.....many version of shipping date of N8 before it out.. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 12:15 PM |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 12:13 PM) who care... I just know my phone can play youtube 720p file smoothly.. i know ar.las week use sgs2 can even play 1080p youtube smoothly by connect to VIP20.  |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 12:15 PM) i know ar.las week use sgs2 can even play 1080p youtube smoothly by connect to VIP20. so lansi...  later N9 can play 1080P 3D!!! |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:21 PM
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Later Steve Jobs announce iPhone 5 can play 2160p video you all shitbrix
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Jun 23 2011, 12:23 PM
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Iphone5 with similar A5 chip with ipad2.. that is for sure win N9 99.99 road liao...
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Jun 23 2011, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 12:17 PM) so lansi... lol.butthurt?hahaha.that should be N9-03 later N9 can play 1080P 3D!!! QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 12:21 PM) Later Steve Jobs announce iPhone 5 can play 2160p video you all shitbrix ohhh,i would like to see that.Added on June 23, 2011, 12:24 pm QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 12:23 PM) Iphone5 with similar A5 chip with ipad2.. that is for sure win N9 99.99 road liao... huh??win s2 meh?This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 12:24 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 12:23 PM) lol.butthurt?hahaha.that should be N9-03 I think MALI 400MP should be kalah to the Monster SGX543MP2...ohhh,i would like to see that. Added on June 23, 2011, 12:24 pm huh??win s2 meh? Added on June 23, 2011, 12:35 pmremember.. the Ipad is using SGX535.. which already better than N9... the result..  Added on June 23, 2011, 12:39 pmand lets don't forget how Apple do marketing.. not annouce dy and let u all wait.. wait... wait.... God Jobs annouce today... tomorrow u can go n queue to buy phone.. Do u think the iphone 5 out first or the N9? This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 12:39 PM |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 12:34 PM) I think MALI 400MP should be kalah to the Monster SGX543MP2... mali400 ftw!milestone 1st gen using sgx535 as well.Added on June 23, 2011, 12:35 pmremember.. the Ipad is using SGX535.. which already better than N9... the result.. the new gen gorilla glass in N9 is gorgeous. |
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The No.1 question I want to know about N9 is, does it take better photos than N8.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 12:39 PM) mali400 ftw!milestone 1st gen using sgx535 as well. still the same old Nokia way isn't it... the new gen gorilla glass in N9 is gorgeous. a 2 years old phone GPU are better than Nokia next year phone? Fanboy... "We don't need such high power hardware.. "un-install ur Window.. and get a copy of Unix or MS-Dos better still.. Added on June 23, 2011, 12:45 pm QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 23 2011, 12:43 PM) The No.1 question I want to know about N9 is, does it take better photos than N8. No.1.. high possible.. NO.. No2 question is, how long will the battery last. No.2.. it not gonna last longer than N8 I believe... This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 12:45 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 12:44 PM) still the same old Nokia way isn't it... meego os doesnt nid high specs. a 2 years old phone GPU are better than Nokia next year phone? Fanboy... "We don't need such high power hardware.. "un-install ur Window.. and get a copy of Unix or MS-Dos better still.. Added on June 23, 2011, 12:45 pm No.1.. high possible.. NO.. No.2.. it not gonna last longer than N8 I believe... the battery life will last longer than n8(i think).lol. |
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wondering front facing cam pixel....incredible s got 1.3 s2 got 2mp.dun tell me VGA again??
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Jun 23 2011, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 12:58 PM) meego os doesnt nid high specs. YES!! it doesn't need! for sure it play 1080p RMVB no lag! the battery life will last longer than n8(i think).lol. battery gonna be last 1 week.... Added on June 23, 2011, 1:03 pm QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 01:00 PM) wondering front facing cam pixel....incredible s got 1.3 s2 got 2mp.dun tell me VGA again?? why it will be ur main phone?? garmin ah? photo? hope nonono....coz this phone is going to be my main phone.. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 01:03 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 01:01 PM) YES!! it doesn't need! for sure it play 1080p RMVB no lag! as i said,gps is number 1 function for my phone.ovi maps is the reason,overall is major upgrade for n8..(despite n8 is 12mp,largest sensor but lag,slow,hang).battery gonna be last 1 week.... Added on June 23, 2011, 1:03 pm why it will be ur main phone?? garmin ah? photo? This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 01:48 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 12:04 PM) TARAK... Same. My MicroSD is not used except for Nitdroid.From my time with N900 I don't use microSD much.Aside from installing Android & MeeGo usually it remain free. IMHO if your memory is big you won't need microSD. You know there's this Evopedia app for Maemo which is an offline wikipedia reader. The data file takes up 10gb+ of space. With that, I have limitation to put movies ady. |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 01:44 PM) Same. My MicroSD is not used except for Nitdroid. now 720p,1080p era 32gb just not enuf.i always download via youtube downloader,720p video.u snap video also very huge file for 720p.You know there's this Evopedia app for Maemo which is an offline wikipedia reader. The data file takes up 10gb+ of space. With that, I have limitation to put movies ady. |
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Jun 23 2011, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 01:50 PM) now 720p,1080p era 32gb just not enuf.i always download via youtube downloader,720p video.u snap video also very huge file for 720p. 64gb + 32gb very good already. |
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Jun 23 2011, 02:11 PM
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the n9 dun have sd card slot
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Jun 23 2011, 02:15 PM
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Jun 23 2011, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 01:41 PM) as i said,gps is number 1 function for my phone.ovi maps is the reason,overall is major upgrade for n8..(despite n8 is 12mp,largest sensor but lag,slow,hang). Please tell me more about this N8 slow, lag hang etc. Were you doing a lot of multi-tasking for it to do that? |
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first and final phone... how sad.. jus like n900...
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Jun 23 2011, 03:44 PM
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Jun 23 2011, 03:46 PM
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Price guess rm2299
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Jun 23 2011, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 03:46 PM) Price guess rm2299 dun really agree at least 1.8KAdded on June 23, 2011, 3:51 pm[quote=super_evil_alien,Jun 23 2011, 03:44 PM] Alien Dalvik will let you run Android apps on the Nokia N9 Less talk & more demo please. This is nice info.. lets hope for the best This post has been edited by Josh_M: Jun 23 2011, 03:51 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Josh_M @ Jun 23 2011, 03:50 PM) dun really agree at least 1.8K Maybe nokia has reduce their price..like n8 and e6 first launch... If that's the case then this is good news.. |
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Jun 23 2011, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 03:44 PM) Alien Dalvik will let you run Android apps on the Nokia N9 Engadget posted an article about Alien Dalvik in February.Less talk & more demo please. Well written article by Texrat.As expected from MeeGo community advocate It's awesome stuff to be able to have the vast amount of apps from Android available in Meego.  Added on June 23, 2011, 3:55 pm QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 03:51 PM) Maybe nokia has reduce their price..like n8 and e6 first launch... Hopefully 64gb variant is less than 2k. If that's the case then this is good news.. This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 23 2011, 03:55 PM |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 03:54 PM) Engadget posted an article about Alien Dalvik in February. Pray for luck..but specwise counting could be above 2k...look at the spec..omg...except for their processor..quite a let down.. It's awesome stuff to be able to have the vast amount of apps from Android available in Meego. Added on June 23, 2011, 3:55 pm Hopefully 64gb variant is less than 2k.  |
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 03:51 PM) Maybe nokia has reduce their price..like n8 and e6 first launch... strong kenpachi just like N9. If that's the case then this is good news.. hopefully 2k and below?hard hard... |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 04:09 PM) Pray for luck..but specwise counting could be above 2k...look at the spec..omg...except for their processor..quite a let down.. And graphics processor. >.< |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:12 PM) And graphics processor. >.< its let down but look at the graphic performance.still decent. |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:19 PM
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My guess..this phone could attract all the nokia's fan that go for android...
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Jun 23 2011, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 04:14 PM) its let down but look at the graphic performance.still decent. Don't even think can play 1080p.Plus, no HDMI output. If no HDMI output, what's the point of supporting HD playback? O.O Symbian ARM11 also so geng lor with godlike processor. Added on June 23, 2011, 4:22 pm QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 04:19 PM) My guess..this phone could attract all the nokia's fan that go for android... You bet!  This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 23 2011, 04:22 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 04:19 PM) My guess..this phone could attract all the nokia's fan that go for android... wrong... Nokia fans not only just go for Android.. they also go to BB/iOS etc... once they go, except u have something very special which they do not have, then u can attract them back.. else.. sorry... |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:28 PM) wrong... Nokia fans not only just go for Android.. they also go to BB/iOS etc... once they go, except u have something very special which they do not have, then u can attract them back.. else.. sorry... But for those who haven't go maybe still can be retained. |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:30 PM) But for those who haven't go maybe still can be retained. those who didn't go will never go.... those are die hard .. hardcore fans... "look @ my N8 largest sensor!!" "look.. we dont need fast CPU.." "look.. we don't play RMVB..."... |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:28 PM) wrong... Nokia fans not only just go for Android.. they also go to BB/iOS etc... once they go, except u have something very special which they do not have, then u can attract them back.. else.. sorry... so what so sorry bout N9?without micro sd slot? |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM) those who didn't go will never go.... those are die hard .. hardcore fans... Doesn't describe me though I haven't leave Nokia due to other reasons. "look @ my N8 largest sensor!!" "look.. we dont need fast CPU.." "look.. we don't play RMVB..."... No $$$. |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:30 PM) But for those who haven't go maybe still can be retained. I went to Android and iOS, but N9 and MeeGo has potential. Will probably buy it. |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM) so what so sorry bout N9?without micro sd slot? nothing so sorry... just u ask an Android user or iOS user to spend RM2k for N9.. what do u think? Added on June 23, 2011, 4:35 pm QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:33 PM) Doesn't describe me though I haven't leave Nokia due to other reasons. I tot I just heard u said below 2k you will get it? No $$$. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 04:35 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:34 PM) nothing so sorry... Yeap, I will get it. just u ask an Android user or iOS user to spend RM2k for N9.. what do u think? Added on June 23, 2011, 4:35 pm I tot I just heard u said below 2k you will get it? |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:33 PM) Doesn't describe me though I haven't leave Nokia due to other reasons. No $$$. QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:37 PM) Yeap, I will get it. Conflict... so many conflict ... just 1 page already have conflict...or else RM2k is = Nothing for u.... |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:38 PM) Conflict... so many conflict ... just 1 page already have conflict... Oops. or else RM2k is = Nothing for u.... N9 no microsd slot? O.O What is this?! I thought 64GB got MicroSD slot then awesome cause I want to keep movies. Don't have damn lousy larh. |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM) those who didn't go will never go.... those are die hard .. hardcore fans... Well if the low class CPU run the OS & games smoothly then it's not a major issue isn't it? "look @ my N8 largest sensor!!" "look.. we dont need fast CPU.." "look.. we don't play RMVB..."... We need to see more Alien Dalvik games demo to judge the phone performance. Speak objectively & not like hardcore fanboy. RMVB play support will come.With out without Nokia's support. There is an ongoing project to run 720p videos with Maemo 5 but the DSP addition in kernel has some issues.Audio & video sometimes don't synch.But eventually I think it can be done. Same thing could be done with N9.Since it has the better hardware & TI SOC I expect some TMO members to get this project going once N9 is launched in market. There are plenty of things that could be done regarding audio/video playing IF Nokia don't make MeeGo Harmattan media player as closed soured like Maemo 5's 1. Currently the TMO team is in process of copying & replacing Maemo 5's player with open sourced 1. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 04:48 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:40 PM) Oops. buy 1 of this..N9 no microsd slot? O.O What is this?! I thought 64GB got MicroSD slot then awesome cause I want to keep movies. Don't have damn lousy larh.  or one of this...  QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 04:43 PM) Well if the low class CPU & run the OS & games smoothly then it's not a major issue isn't it? 720p? that is old skol isn't it?We need to see more Alien Dalvik games demo to judge the phone performance. Speak objectively & not like hardcore fanboy. RMVB play support will come.With out without Nokia's support. There is an ongoing project to run 720p videos with Maemo 5 but the DSP addition in kernel has some issues.Audio & video sometimes don't synch.But eventually I think it can be done. Same thing could be done with N9.Since it has the better hardware & TI SOC I expect some TMO members to get this project going once N9 is launched in market. There are plenty of things that could be done regarding audio/video playing IF Nokia don't make MeeGo Harmattan media player as closed soured like Maemo 5's 1. Currently the TMO team is in process of copying & replacing Maemo 5's player with open sourced 1. |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:49 PM) buy 1 of this.. Hardware limitation.720p? that is old skol isn't it? In theory 720p is the highest resolution which is possible to run in N900 This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 04:52 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 04:52 PM) Hardware limitation. How to run? I don't have confidence that it can run. Cause even running 480p video also will freeze occasionally.In theory 720p is the highest resolution which is possible to run in N900 |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:40 PM) Oops. yes,totally copy fruit style.no micro sd card slot,micro sim bla bla.N9 no microsd slot? O.O What is this?! I thought 64GB got MicroSD slot then awesome cause I want to keep movies. Don't have damn lousy larh. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 04:52 PM) Hardware limitation. in theory but practically cant.In theory 720p is the highest resolution which is possible to run in N900 |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 04:52 PM) Hardware limitation. do u see the conflict? one side say no need high end Hardware.. (somebody even say we donno what is hardware... coz N8 got aluminium casing .. that is what u call hardware!!!) In theory 720p is the highest resolution which is possible to run in N900 the other end.. need decent hardware... I find it is pretty lame to defend in this technology advancing world that is still fine to use 2 generation behind hardware and still say OK... |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:34 PM) nothing so sorry... Nokia is awesomeness!f/2.2!!!just u ask an Android user or iOS user to spend RM2k for N9.. what do u think? Added on June 23, 2011, 4:35 pm I tot I just heard u said below 2k you will get it? Added on June 23, 2011, 5:01 pm QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:59 PM) do u see the conflict? one side say no need high end Hardware.. (somebody even say we donno what is hardware... coz N8 got aluminium casing .. that is what u call hardware!!!) 1 gen behind only.the other end.. need decent hardware... I find it is pretty lame to defend in this technology advancing world that is still fine to use 2 generation behind hardware and still say OK... This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 05:01 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 05:00 PM) Nokia is awesomeness!f/2.2!!! I forgot.. he don't even know how to put the f... he put F 2.2... luckily not F22... |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 04:55 PM) How to run? I don't have confidence that it can run. Cause even running 480p video also will freeze occasionally. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1004404For now you need to merge the necessary files with kernel power yourself to test it. There's issue here & there & it's not been helped with disagreement between pali(kernel power maintainer) & freemangordon (DSP patcher). |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 05:00 PM) Nokia is awesomeness!f/2.2!!! u mean the CPU same with 3GS ah.. that is correct.. that time is 1 gen behind... Added on June 23, 2011, 5:01 pm 1 gen behind only. or u mean the N9... ya.. at this moment is 1 gen behind.. when it is out.. U donno.. I donno... |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 05:02 PM) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1004404 it need so many skills/steps to run?aiks.i thought oc to 1ghz then should be run smoothly?For now you need to merge the necessary files with kernel power yourself to test it. There's issue here & there & it's not been helped with disagreement between pali(kernel power maintainer) & freemangordon (DSP patcher). |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 05:04 PM) it need so many skills/steps to run?aiks.i thought oc to 1ghz then should be run smoothly? Siapa MAU?  |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:03 PM) u mean the CPU same with 3GS ah.. that is correct.. that time is 1 gen behind... Mr Elop said announce--->ship.no more 6 months waiting.or u mean the N9... ya.. at this moment is 1 gen behind.. when it is out.. U donno.. I donno... |
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 04:09 PM) Pray for luck..but specwise counting could be above 2k...look at the spec..omg...except for their processor..quite a let down.. Processor? It's last year.If the phone starts shipping next year, then it'll become Last Year Technology For Next year The surprising one is the Ram actually. I thought it would only be 512MB provided. QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM) those who didn't go will never go.... those are die hard .. hardcore fans... Yea.... It's not good to say we don't need fast or this or that; This give the feedback and impression to the company that the users don't need it. So, why bother giving the users something new or good? Just chunk it some old cheap hardware, make money out of it, the users are still happy about it and say they don't need it. "look @ my N8 largest sensor!!" "look.. we dont need fast CPU.." "look.. we don't play RMVB..."... Hoenstly speaking, many OS also don't need fast CPU, who needs dual core? But, if have a choice, will the user say NO? If user's paying the SAME money, I doubt the user will take the single core? It's just like the trend in auto industry now with the japanese rivals offering lower striped down, cheap specs at crazy high price; The supporters remains loyal and say they don't need the extra airbags, etc. In other countries, the japanese rivals are offering far better specs at far lower price; Not to mention, the japanese rivals here are big companies, selling at large volumes, etc. Anyway, just saying; If it's not good, then say it's not good; If not wrong or bad to say it's not good; There's something called positive feedback/criticism. The manufacturer/company need to know that they need to provide a better spec/hardware and so on. |
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 05:06 PM) Processor? It's last year. wah.. Andy... u get my point completely oh.. If the phone starts shipping next year, then it'll become Last Year Technology For Next year The surprising one is the Ram actually. I thought it would only be 512MB provided. Yea.... It's not good to say we don't need fast or this or that; This give the feedback and impression to the company that the users don't need it. So, why bother giving the users something new or good? Just chunk it some old cheap hardware, make money out of it, the users are still happy about it and say they don't need it. Hoenstly speaking, many OS also don't need fast CPU, who needs dual core? But, if have a choice, will the user say NO? If user's paying the SAME money, I doubt the user will take the single core? It's just like the trend in auto industry now with the japanese rivals offering lower striped down, cheap specs at crazy high price; The supporters remains loyal and say they don't need the extra airbags, etc. In other countries, the japanese rivals are offering far better specs at far lower price; Not to mention, the japanese rivals here are big companies, selling at large volumes, etc. Anyway, just saying; If it's not good, then say it's not good; If not wrong or bad to say it's not good; There's something called positive feedback/criticism. The manufacturer/company need to know that they need to provide a better spec/hardware and so on. siapa lagi mau?  |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:08 PM) wah.. Andy... u get my point completely oh.. this is more interesting... GO CREATE they say.. siapa lagi mau? |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 04:58 PM) yes,totally copy fruit style.no micro sd card slot,micro sim bla bla. That's what I said from the start, too many fruit style. No homescreen, any smartphone OS have no homescreen?in theory but practically cant. The "switch" is iOS style? The background colour (grey-white), totally no relatation with it's parents or sibling or relatives (Symbian), it feels more iOS-ish. |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 04:59 PM) do u see the conflict? one side say no need high end Hardware.. (somebody even say we donno what is hardware... coz N8 got aluminium casing .. that is what u call hardware!!!) Everyone want high spec hardware.Heck even I want quad core processor & 2GB RAM to run with this OS.the other end.. need decent hardware... I find it is pretty lame to defend in this technology advancing world that is still fine to use 2 generation behind hardware and still say OK... But with the nature of this OS which always used as experiment by Nokia,potential buyers need to accept the dated hardware. So only hope they have is to expect the OS to run the application without hitch with these hardware. Slightly lower price could also help sell this device. But for WP7 device Nokia need to have the very best of hardwares.Any rubbish like ARM11 680MHz then Eldar will have a field day on this. |
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dual core would be most welcome but single core actually more than enough.but the graphic processor is the problem.530 is definitely not powerful enough.
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Jun 23 2011, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 05:11 PM) Everyone want high spec hardware.Heck even I want quad core processor & 2GB RAM to run with this OS. 680mhz arm11 is not rubbish.good enough.But with the nature of this OS which always used as experiment by Nokia,potential buyers need to accept the dated hardware. So only hope they have is to expect the OS to run the application without hitch with these hardware. Slightly lower price could also help sell this device. But for WP7 device Nokia need to have the very best of hardwares.Any rubbish like ARM11 680MHz then Eldar will have a field day on this. 3 years ago. |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:08 PM) wah.. Andy... u get my point completely oh.. If Nokia start selling this I'll order immediately. siapa lagi mau? Screw beta class OS,no software support & no warranty whatsoever(I've experienced all this with my N900 & I'm still using it) Excellent physical keyboard & interesting OS is enough to temp me. |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:14 PM
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wah.. this is purely a developer image... device testing!
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Jun 23 2011, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:14 PM) wah.. this is purely a developer image... device testing! thats developer image? |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 05:16 PM) thats developer image? software running on the PC at the same time in the phone... no developer tool is what? |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:18 PM) software running on the PC at the same time in the phone... no developer tool is what? The Android Nexus devices can do the same thing also right?In fact I think almost all developers device in each platform should be able to do this. |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 05:19 PM) The Android Nexus devices can do the same thing also right? of course whoever have the developer tool can do so... In fact I think almost all developers device in each platform should be able to do this. wah... CBD can deep black until this level? i x belif..  |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 03:51 PM) Maybe nokia has reduce their price..like n8 and e6 first launch... What's N8 first launch price last year? I presume the original price is now around RM1250 - 1300? If that's the case then this is good news.. With the launch of N9, I really do hope the N8 goes down to RM1000 and I will get one. |
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 23 2011, 05:25 PM) What's N8 first launch price last year? I presume the original price is now around RM1250 - 1300? this is my personal opinion... With the launch of N9, I really do hope the N8 goes down to RM1000 and I will get one. it is a pretty bad move to spend that kind of money on a N8... |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:27 PM) this is my personal opinion... +1it is a pretty bad move to spend that kind of money on a N8... If you're buying the phone just because of the camera then it's not worth it. That money could be well be spend on proper camera. |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:33 PM
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Don't dream of RMVB support. Nobody willing to pay royalty fee. I still haven't try using iPad2 dual processor see whether or not it can soft decode smoothly. Tried on Hummingbird really laggy.
Nokia did make a nice move by using Broadcom chip but even that won't support RMVB, only WMV (popular format for xxx). Sadly, the file system limitation require you to download lower bitrate or convert your current media collection. As for Meego, Nokia alone is just not enough. This is not about Nokia or Meego. Even if Nokia don't kill Meego, you don't know if they will be throwing bodies behind the project as well as funds needed to further enhance it. Give it a year and if you ain't seeing much apps for it, then fate sealed. |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 05:33 PM) Don't dream of RMVB support. Nobody willing to pay royalty fee. I still haven't try using iPad2 dual processor see whether or not it can soft decode smoothly. Tried on Hummingbird really laggy. I agree... Nokia did make a nice move by using Broadcom chip but even that won't support RMVB, only WMV (popular format for xxx). Sadly, the file system limitation require you to download lower bitrate or convert your current media collection. As for Meego, Nokia alone is just not enough. This is not about Nokia or Meego. Even if Nokia don't kill Meego, you don't know if they will be throwing bodies behind the project as well as funds needed to further enhance it. Give it a year and if you ain't seeing much apps for it, then fate sealed. vs iOS or Android now is like u have 1 team to fight the entire world... iOS vs Android now is like a more restricted world vs an open world.... Added on June 23, 2011, 6:12 pmno more aluminium casing in N9... sob sob... Nokia fans no longer can bash other's "hardware" dy... This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 06:12 PM |
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gsmarena hands on video
Awesome screen, really deep black, deeper than CBD? Super CBD? or CBD plus? lolz And I noticed something, so its now Store not Ovi Store? Still, the swipe kinda bother me abit coz we have to go from edge to edge. And some points, the phone doesn't go to portrait mode. I guess it's still early to judge This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jun 23 2011, 06:21 PM |
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 06:19 PM) gsmarena hands on video sei slowpoke.. are there something still call "OVI" now?Awesome screen, really deep black, deeper than CBD? Super CBD? or CBD plus? lolz And I noticed something, so its now Store not Ovi Store? Still, the swipe kinda bother me abit coz we have to go from edge to edge. And some points, the phone doesn't go to portrait mode. I guess it's still early to judge |
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Jun 23 2011, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 07:23 PM) sei slowpoke.. are there something still call "OVI" now? Coz I heard Nokia gonna deminish the name 'ovi'. So the apps store remains a store. Not sure |
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Jun 23 2011, 06:28 PM
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http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-review-610.php
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Jun 23 2011, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 06:26 PM) Coz I heard Nokia gonna deminish the name 'ovi'. So the apps store remains a store. Not sure start from July.. the name "Ovi" will be slowly out.. by the year 2012... Nokia will totally wipe the name "OVI"donno what name yet as I know... maybe it will call "Elop Store"... Added on June 23, 2011, 6:33 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 06:28 PM) http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-review-610.php Don't worry.. A lot of Anti-M$ trying to save MeeGo... I go support a bit.. at least this look promising rather than the outdated/rubbish Symbian.. Too bad this is the only MeeGo device from Nokia no matter how good the sale is. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 06:39 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 06:29 PM) start from July.. the name "Ovi" will be slowly out.. by the year 2012... Nokia will totally wipe the name "OVI" donno what name yet as I know... maybe it will call "Elop Store"... Added on June 23, 2011, 6:33 pm Don't worry.. I lot of Anti-M$ trying to save MeeGo... I go support a bit.. at least this look promising rather than the outdated/rubbish Symbian.. Good idea.In case Elop got fired at least there will be something to remember Elop's tenure as CEO.Nah...Nothing will help MeeGo in Nokia because Elop is hell bend on killing MeeGo. Just look forward for Nokia's WP7. Elop said that some of innovation in N9 will be used in Nokia's WP7 device.I assume it'll be phone design only because if I remember correctly during the February 9th presentation he mentioned that Nokia won't modify the WP7 UI's even though they legally can. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 06:39 PM |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 06:35 PM) Good idea.In case Elop got fired at least there will be something to remember Elop's tenure as CEO.Nah...Nothing will help MeeGo in Nokia because Elop is hell bend on killing MeeGo. Just look forward for Nokia's WP7. Elop said that some of innovation in N9 will be used in Nokia's WP7 device.I assume it'll be phone design only because if I remember correctly during the February 9th presentation he mentioned that Nokia won't modify the WP7 UI's even though they legally can. |
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Jun 23 2011, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 07:35 PM) Good idea.In case Elop got fired at least there will be something to remember Elop's tenure as CEO.Nah...Nothing will help MeeGo in Nokia because Elop is hell bend on killing MeeGo. Just look forward for Nokia's WP7. Elop said that some of innovation in N9 will be used in Nokia's WP7 device.I assume it'll be phone design only because if I remember correctly during the February 9th presentation he mentioned that Nokia won't modify the WP7 UI's even though they legally can.    And it might come in white N9 versions  source: http://mynokiablog.com/2011/06/23/stephen-...y-is-just-that/ lets hope it will be dual-boot = wp7 & meego This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jun 23 2011, 06:45 PM |
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 05:10 PM) That's what I said from the start, too many fruit style. No homescreen, any smartphone OS have no homescreen? come come.patent war. The "switch" is iOS style? The background colour (grey-white), totally no relatation with it's parents or sibling or relatives (Symbian), it feels more iOS-ish. Added on June 23, 2011, 7:20 pmelop elop elop.this name repeat for so many times during nap.wake up only see so many elop.in what sense windows phone 7 more competitive than meego? This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 07:20 PM |
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 06:44 PM) Yeah, you r 'correct' MeeGo supports uboot (kinda like GRUB) so it is possible to use 2 OS but I'm very Elop won't agree to that.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « lets hope it will be dual-boot = wp7 & meego Microsoft won't agree to that either. Bill Gates calls open source platform as pest. @Andy214 N9 don't share much of N900 trait but at least be happy it inherited excellent browser. Thank god Nokia didn't bring any Symbian type webkit browser. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 07:28 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 07:23 PM) MeeGo supports uboot (kinda like GRUB) so it is possible to use 2 OS but I'm very Elop won't agree to that. the brand new browser on anna is not bad.Microsoft won't agree to that either. Bill Gates calls open source platform as pest. @Andy214 N9 don't share much of N900 trait but at least be happy it inherited excellent browser. Thank god Nokia didn't bring any Symbian type webkit browser. |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:38 PM) the brand new browser on anna is not bad. i might get x7 |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 07:38 PM) we might get x7,N9,W8,W7 etc etc. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 07:38 PM) the brand new browser on anna is not bad. It's bad. They fix the clicking issue though. If I'm not mistaken, Double tapping zoom now follow iOS style, where the area where you double tap will be zoomed to fit to screen width. Still lag while scrolling if there's pics and videos. Not to mention the same rendering error when viewing LYN forum. I think it crashes a few times when we tried it at the event. Not bad? |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:44 PM
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http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devi...!1569064326
Seems like very limited market for N9. Malaysia in included for now. |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 07:43 PM) It's bad. They fix the clicking issue though. If I'm not mistaken, Double tapping zoom now follow iOS style, where the area where you double tap will be zoomed to fit to screen width. Still lag while scrolling if there's pics and videos. Not to mention the same rendering error when viewing LYN forum. I think it crashes a few times when we tried it at the event. Not bad? i think the browser performance isn't good enough due to the arm11 680mhz,its not about the software but hardware.. |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 07:23 PM) MeeGo supports uboot (kinda like GRUB) so it is possible to use 2 OS but I'm very Elop won't agree to that. Perhaps share same user... Judging from the response so far, those who ain't still hoping for a good show from Nokia won't even look at it.Microsoft won't agree to that either. Bill Gates calls open source platform as pest. @Andy214 N9 don't share much of N900 trait but at least be happy it inherited excellent browser. Thank god Nokia didn't bring any Symbian type webkit browser. |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 07:46 PM) Perhaps share same user... Judging from the response so far, those who ain't still hoping for a good show from Nokia won't even look at it. m interested to the play 360 but 210+ USD..ahem ahem. |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 07:45 PM) i think the browser performance isn't good enough due to the arm11 680mhz,its not about the software but hardware.. Is it? Better hardware than my HTC Legend and yet ... |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:48 PM
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There is FM transmitter/receiver in N9 but no app for it.
Again sort of N900's issue when it was launched.Should be solved when someone release third party app. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 07:49 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 07:47 PM) m interested to the play 360 but 210+ USD..ahem ahem. Next Ranger event got Angry Birds challenge again and grand prize is play 360. |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 07:48 PM) Is it? Better hardware than my HTC Legend and yet ... i do think so...coz the benchmark result for browser is pretty high.on par vf safari n android.maybe the hardware limitation. |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 07:49 PM) Next Ranger event got Angry Birds challenge again and grand prize is play 360. hope everybody get it.much better.later i win again ppl butthurt. Sifu Heng sure will. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 07:51 PM) hope everybody get it.much better.later i win again ppl butthurt. Sifu Heng sure will. I give him lor if Nokia give me... I dont have NFC phone also... **Forgotten he has a C7** |
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Aha...
Seems like Motorola is playing like Samsung. They are going to adopt another platform for their mid tier devices. Also linux based. Everyone seems want to have at least 1 in house OS except for Nokia. |
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Jun 23 2011, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:06 PM) Siapa MAU? I want!! N950 how to apply? I checked through nokia developer but I don't see anywhere to apply for it. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 07:56 PM) Aha... Nokia has Symbian n Meego... its not dead yet... Can U Turn anytime...Seems like Motorola is playing like Samsung. They are going to adopt another platform for their mid tier devices. Also linux based. Everyone seems want to have at least 1 in house OS except for Nokia. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 05:19 PM) The Android Nexus devices can do the same thing also right? You got the dev kit can ady lor. In fact I think almost all developers device in each platform should be able to do this. |
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Jun 23 2011, 08:00 PM
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C7.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 05:41 PM) I agree... Hardware vs iOS or Android now is like u have 1 team to fight the entire world... iOS vs Android now is like a more restricted world vs an open world.... Added on June 23, 2011, 6:12 pmno more aluminium casing in N9... sob sob... Nokia fans no longer can bash other's "hardware" dy... |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 07:56 PM) I want!! N950 how to apply? I checked through nokia developer but I don't see anywhere to apply for it. Join here - http://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join.xhtmlThen here - http://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Joi...r%20individuals Then you need to publish at least 1 QT based application.Only then you can request the device & other shebangs that comes with it. Won't be easy because there are very limited number of N950 & most probably Nokia will look through quality & usability of your app before giving the developer device. I think are already some N950 loose few months ago.SINA got their N950 few months ago for development purpose. QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 07:57 PM) Nokia has Symbian n Meego... its not dead yet... Can U Turn anytime... Ada fatso blocking the road.This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 08:04 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:00 PM) C7. You didnt see the text in yellow I guess... hahahaha got nfc oso wo. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 07:48 PM) There is FM transmitter/receiver in N9 but no app for it. Sure solved. Again sort of N900's issue when it was launched.Should be solved when someone release third party app. QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 07:51 PM) hope everybody get it.much better.later i win again ppl butthurt. Sifu Heng sure will. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:04 PM) Join here - http://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join.xhtml lol, unless I still someone's project, I won't be getting N950 then. I don't know anything about coding. Then here - http://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Joi...r%20individuals Then you need to publish at least 1 QT based application.Only then you can request the device & other shebangs that comes with it. Won't be easy because there are very limited number of N950 & most probably Nokia will look through quality & usability of your app before giving the developer device. I think are already some N950 loose few months ago.SINA got their N950 few months ago for development purpose. Ada fatso blocking the road. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:04 PM) Join here - http://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join.xhtml whos the fatso?lol.Then here - http://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Joi...r%20individuals Then you need to publish at least 1 QT based application.Only then you can request the device & other shebangs that comes with it. Won't be easy because there are very limited number of N950 & most probably Nokia will look through quality & usability of your app before giving the developer device. I think are already some N950 loose few months ago.SINA got their N950 few months ago for development purpose. Ada fatso blocking the road. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:17 PM) whos the fatso?lol. u maybe? i have lose 13kg in 1 months, so Im not a fatso now ;p |
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Nicholas, our best hope for HDMI out is hoping MHL port is installed. Because GSMArena has an extensive hands-on review and there's definitely no HDMI port.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 08:23 PM) u maybe? i have lose 13kg in 1 months, so Im not a fatso now ;p okok.im the fatso.going back to nokia hq in finland now.sitting etihad first class.Added on June 23, 2011, 8:27 pm QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 08:25 PM) Nicholas, our best hope for HDMI out is hoping MHL port is installed. Because GSMArena has an extensive hands-on review and there's definitely no HDMI port. as i said there is no hole for HDMI.there is hole for micro usb n 3.5 only.This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 08:27 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:25 PM) okok.im the fatso.going back to nokia hq in finland now.sitting etihad first class. MHL port is the last hope. It may be possible as Nokia is also part of the few manufacturers supporting this initiativeAdded on June 23, 2011, 8:27 pm as i said there is no hole for HDMI.there is hole for micro usb n 3.5 only. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:35 PM) Fatso = Elop Elop is not fatso.handsome n seductive. QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 08:37 PM) MHL port is the last hope. It may be possible as Nokia is also part of the few manufacturers supporting this initiative MHL port?aiks aiks...my current n8 hdmi cable cant use anymore lo. |
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Nokia's first Windows Phone: images and video, codenamed 'Sea Ray'
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Nokia N9 WP7.5 mango version
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/06/23/video-th...-and-not-meego/ Added on June 23, 2011, 8:43 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:41 PM) Nokia's first Windows Phone: images and video, codenamed 'Sea Ray' oh dam, ure 2 sec earlier than meAgain with the wall of blocks as homescreen This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jun 23 2011, 08:43 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:38 PM) Elop is not fatso.handsome n seductive. Doesn't matter larh. If you want I can buy cable for you, you give me one of those phone you got from Ranger Program. MHL port?aiks aiks...my current n8 hdmi cable cant use anymore lo. Added on June 23, 2011, 8:51 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:41 PM) Nokia's first Windows Phone: images and video, codenamed 'Sea Ray' WHAT?!! Hahaa! Elop, you really know how to use part of N9 into Nokia's first WP7 phone. And do you really have to use N9's fame to gain the popularity of your 1st WP7 device? Again with the wall of blocks as homescreen This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 23 2011, 08:51 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 08:54 PM
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N9 CANNOT be running WP7.
WP7 don't support TI SOC as used in N9.You have to use Qualcom SOC. Externally it may look like N9 but internally it must be quite difference. |
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Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:41 PM) Nokia's first Windows Phone: images and video, codenamed 'Sea Ray' i just dont get it.dont get any single point of it..totally same design same hardware?wtf?Again with the wall of blocks as homescreen windows phone 7 wont get any sales.ppl will much impress by meego.now is the war between ee and an Added on June 23, 2011, 8:57 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:54 PM) N9 CANNOT be running WP7. just recall texas instrument cant be use for wp7.WP7 don't support TI SOC as used in N9.You have to use Qualcom SOC. Externally it may look like N9 but internally it must be quite difference. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 08:57 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM) i just dont get it.dont get any single point of it..totally same design same hardware?wtf? Yeah.Also as I said before Elop already said that Nokia is not going to change the UI.So what you see in the leaked video is what you get as end product.windows phone 7 wont get any sales.ppl will much impress by meego.now is the war between ee and an Pretty much same as other manufacturers.So what would compel people to buy Nokia's WP7 device? Maps? Nokia's Maps is good but it's not a major reason to buy Nokia phones. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM) i just dont get it.dont get any single point of it..totally same design same hardware?wtf? KILL MEEGO THEN... LOLwindows phone 7 wont get any sales.ppl will much impress by meego.now is the war between ee and an Added on June 23, 2011, 8:57 pm just recall texas instrument cant be use for wp7. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM) i just dont get it.dont get any single point of it..totally same design same hardware?wtf? When did you change your definition of hardware eh? windows phone 7 wont get any sales.ppl will much impress by meego.now is the war between ee and an Added on June 23, 2011, 8:57 pm just recall texas instrument cant be use for wp7. Hardware can't be the same cause WP7 has a very stringent hardware requirement. And this is real hardware I'm saying not hardware seen by god. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 08:55 PM) just recall texas instrument cant be use for wp7. This is another weakness of WP7.Limited SOC support.Unlike WP7,MeeGo team already done with TI & Qualcomm hardware adaptation. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:59 PM) Yeah.Also as I said before Elop already said that Nokia is not going to change the UI.So what you see in the leaked video is what you get as end product. Because Nokia built phone tough like tank...Pretty much same as other manufacturers.So what would compel people to buy Nokia's WP7 device? Maps? Nokia's Maps is good but it's not a major reason to buy Nokia phones. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 09:00 PM) When did you change your definition of hardware eh? Oh yeah..Very strict indeed.Damn strict till you need certified microSD card to expand memory!Hardware can't be the same cause WP7 has a very stringent hardware requirement. And this is real hardware I'm saying not hardware seen by god. Added on June 23, 2011, 9:02 pm QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:01 PM) Because Nokia built phone tough like tank... Body made from carbon fiber? This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 09:03 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:01 PM) Because Nokia built phone tough like tank... I have had experience it since 3310. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 08:59 PM) Yeah.Also as I said before Elop already said that Nokia is not going to change the UI.So what you see in the leaked video is what you get as end product. mapping navigation?camera?but the wp7 cam is su*ky.im not convinced enough to buy that if nokia didnt do much mod on their wp7.although wp7 is the best os ever(exclude meego coz its not in the market yet),yet i hate the UI.the metro UI is simply ugly.the most ugly UI among all smartphone.Pretty much same as other manufacturers.So what would compel people to buy Nokia's WP7 device? Maps? Nokia's Maps is good but it's not a major reason to buy Nokia phones. QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:00 PM) KILL MEEGO THEN... LOL the Fatso(SEA,2011)killing. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:04 PM
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The so call Nokia window phone seem like totally a Microsoft phone at all to me... beside the logo, where is Nokia? the entire idea is like m$ wanna get their own hardware platform.. LOL..
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Jun 23 2011, 09:05 PM
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Anyway, I think rather than saying only Qualcomm met the stringent specification, it is still using the base ARMv7. I really want to see how DIFFERENT it could be. There are modification that you can do to the product like pipeline length etc but the core of ARMv7 should remain the same.
TELL ME WHAT SO f***ING DIFFERENT THEN!!! SOMEONE IN MS HAS A BIG CHUNK OF SHARES IN QUALCOMM. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:04 PM) The so call Nokia window phone seem like totally a Microsoft phone at all to me... beside the logo, where is Nokia? the entire idea is like Elop wanna get their own hardware platform.. LOL.. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:05 PM) TELL ME WHAT SO f***ING DIFFERENT THEN!!! SOMEONE IN MS HAS A BIG CHUNK OF SHARES IN QUALCOMM. You go ask Steve Baldmer regarding this |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:05 PM) Anyway, I think rather than saying only Qualcomm met the stringent specification, it is still using the base ARMv7. I really want to see how DIFFERENT it could be. There are modification that you can do to the product like pipeline length etc but the core of ARMv7 should remain the same. Microsoft is freaking funny.RIP M$ as well as elop.TELL ME WHAT SO f***ING DIFFERENT THEN!!! SOMEONE IN MS HAS A BIG CHUNK OF SHARES IN QUALCOMM. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:09 PM
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And again where is Nokia? already sub the entire symbian out.. meego not going to last long... Nokia manufacturing what? logo I think... lol
Samsung, lg manufacturing own hardware... Nokia? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:11 PM
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Meh...If like this I rather take the burning platform over swimming platform
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Jun 23 2011, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:09 PM) And again where is Nokia? already sub the entire symbian out.. meego not going to last long... Nokia manufacturing what? logo I think... lol a body without soul.since elop era.Samsung, lg manufacturing own hardware... Nokia? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:11 PM) Meh...If like this I rather take the burning platform over swimming platform which 1 is burning platform n which 1 is swimming?lol. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:09 PM) And again where is Nokia? already sub the entire symbian out.. meego not going to last long... Nokia manufacturing what? logo I think... lol Samsung making smart move nowdays.Limiting device release,cater high end & mid range,manufacture own hardware,have an OS in house,encouraging Symbian devs to develop app for Bada & contantly updating their high end device with the best hardware.Samsung, lg manufacturing own hardware... Nokia? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:09 PM) And again where is Nokia? already sub the entire symbian out.. meego not going to last long... Nokia manufacturing what? logo I think... lol Nokia biggest asset is nothing else than the name. Apple might be earning lots of cash, but I think Nokia is the world most recognized name for mobile phone.Samsung, lg manufacturing own hardware... Nokia? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:15 PM
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MeeGo - burning platform
WP7 - swimming platform |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:14 PM) Samsung making smart move nowdays.Limiting device release,cater high end & mid range,manufacture own hardware,have an OS in house,encouraging Symbian devs to develop app for Bada & contantly updating their high end device with the best hardware. sgs2...QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:15 PM) MeeGo - burning platform meego is swimming n wp7 is burning.lol.meego just started their journey n wp7 started last yearWP7 - swimming platform |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:15 PM) Nokia biggest asset is nothing else than the name. Apple might be earning lots of cash, but I think Nokia is the world most recognized name for mobile phone. Well...More people have used 3310 over iPhone isn't it?Nokia have manufactured way more phone Apple.But the late response for iPhone really hitting them hard. Rome wasn't build in 1 day but it sure can be destroyed in 1 day. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:19 PM
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I think there should be a specific sub-forum for Nokia phones only (for WP7, MeeGo and Symbian) since Nokia is vs android vs Blackberry vs apple. lolz
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Jun 23 2011, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 09:19 PM) I think there should be a specific sub-forum for Nokia phones only (for WP7, MeeGo and Symbian) since Nokia is vs android vs Blackberry vs apple. lolz symbian specific phone discussion thread.lol.This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 09:20 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:19 PM) symbian session.lol. no, thats not what I mean, nokia doesn't follow the trend of android, and nokia has 3 OS = MeeGo, WP7, and Symbian, should have specific subforum for Nokia. Coz I'm getting a headache went 2 subforum at the same time.  |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 09:21 PM) no, thats not what I mean, nokia doesn't follow the trend of android, and nokia has 3 OS = MeeGo, WP7, and Symbian, should have specific subforum for Nokia. Coz I'm getting a headache went 2 subforum at the same time. right click open link in new tab. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:17 PM) sgs2... Galaxy Ace & Wave phones are smart moves too.meego is swimming n wp7 is burning.lol.meego just started their journey n wp7 started last year Let's say one day Google made Android closed source or simply abandon it Samsung can always use their own OS. In Nokia's case if WP7 failed what can they do? Ask Intel so Nokia can be involved in MeeGo again? Paul Otellini will fark Elop upside down for the mess Nokia already have done. QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 23 2011, 09:19 PM) I think there should be a specific sub-forum for Nokia phones only (for WP7, MeeGo and Symbian) since Nokia is vs android vs Blackberry vs apple. lolz You come to N900 thread.Single phone running 3 OS.Sometimes make my head spin answering question regarding different OS although it's used in same phone. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 09:25 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:24 PM) Galaxy Ace & Wave phones are smart moves too. N9 able to dual boot as well right?3 different os?maemo5,meego 1.1 n win xp?Let's say one day Google made Android closed source or simply abandon it Samsung can always use their own OS. In Nokia's case if WP7 failed what can they do? Ask Intel so Nokia can be involved in MeeGo again? Paul Otellini will fark Elop upside down for the mess Nokia already have done. You come to N900 thread. Single phone running 3 OS.Sometimes make my head spin answering question regarding different OS although it's used in same phone. +android This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 09:27 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:22 PM) right click open link in new tab. Just click using the scroll button (middle button), it brings you to new tab. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:24 PM) Galaxy Ace & Wave phones are smart moves too. N900 thread is not for spamming. Nokia discussion best be done in Symbian subforum. Let's say one day Google made Android closed source or simply abandon it Samsung can always use their own OS. In Nokia's case if WP7 failed what can they do? Ask Intel so Nokia can be involved in MeeGo again? Paul Otellini will fark Elop upside down for the mess Nokia already have done. You come to N900 thread. Single phone running 3 OS.Sometimes make my head spin answering question regarding different OS although it's used in same phone. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:29 PM
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Jun 23 2011, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:27 PM) N9 able to dual boot as well right?3 different os?maemo5,meego 1.1 n win xp? Why Win XP came out suddenly? O.O+android I tot we should be looking towards Win8? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 09:30 PM) Why Win XP came out suddenly? O.O u want win8 running on ur n900?oc to 2ghz.lolI tot we should be looking towards Win8? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 09:29 PM) Just click using the scroll button (middle button), it brings you to new tab. Fxck the idiot keep posting photo without spoiler... simply spam until mod disable postcount... that is the contribution....N900 thread is not for spamming. Nokia discussion best be done in Symbian subforum. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:27 PM) N9 able to dual boot as well right?3 different os?maemo5,meego 1.1 n win xp? No idea about the N9's booting function.Need to wait till someone get hold on the device.+android WinXP don't support ARM.Only Win8 (btw another crappy UI product by Microsoft) have ARM support. Android is impossible.You forgot that N9 lacks hardware button other than camera/volume buttons?Unless Google really removed hardware button functionality like rumored that it's not possible to use Android in N9. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:31 PM) u want win8 running on ur n900?oc to 2ghz.lol Who want a resource extreme wastful x86 platform on a phone? must be Mr Heng! |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:31 PM) u want win8 running on ur n900?oc to 2ghz.lol N9 QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:32 PM) Fxck the idiot keep posting photo without spoiler... simply spam until mod disable postcount... that is the contribution.... What can you do? Contribute more than him? Lol. Nothing right? Don't care lor. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:31 PM) u want win8 running on ur n900?oc to 2ghz.lol The highest clock speed achived by any N900 was 1.5GHz & even that was by attaching processor heatsink to cool the battery section |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:32 PM) No idea about the N9's booting function.Need to wait till someone get hold on the device. Can't we have some kind of virtual keys on the bottom? No?WinXP don't support ARM.Only Win8 (btw another crappy UI product by Microsoft) have ARM support. Android is impossible.You forgot that N9 lacks hardware button other than camera/volume buttons?Unless Google really removed hardware button functionality like rumored that it's not possible to use Android in N9. QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:34 PM) Who want a resource extreme wastful x86 platform on a phone? must be Mr Heng! Not me. Nic wants Windows, not me. If WP7 can boot then ok larh. I don't need Win8. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:29 PM) simply worth it.RM500 only. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:40 PM
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OK, dont fight...
ITS ME WHO WANT WIN8... for my Acer tablet. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:42 PM
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win8 for my n9.
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Jun 23 2011, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:42 PM) win8 for my n9. Stick with your titanic la... no N9 for you... W9 want or not? |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 09:36 PM) Can't we have some kind of virtual keys on the bottom? No? You mean like HTC's phones which have "phone" & few other virtual key at bottom of screen?Not me. Nic wants Windows, not me. If WP7 can boot then ok larh. I don't need Win8. Even if you make like that the keys will disappears once you go to menu.How will you go back? Unless someone manage to make the keys permanent in all screen.This will make once heck of ugly UI. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:42 PM) Stick with your titanic la... no N9 for you... W9 want or not? N9 n W9 in package.thats most welcome. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:44 PM) You mean like HTC's phones which have "phone" & few other virtual key at bottom of screen? If vol button can take photo, it can also be program to HOME... heheheheEven if you make like that the keys will disappears once you go to menu.How will you go back? Unless someone manage to make the keys permanent in all screen.This will make once heck of ugly UI. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:40 PM) OK, dont fight... mah go for ur Iconia Tab w500 lo.... ITS ME WHO WANT WIN8... for my Acer tablet. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:44 PM) N9 n W9 in package.thats most welcome.  QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:44 PM) You mean like HTC's phones which have "phone" & few other virtual key at bottom of screen? At least we get Android ported over. That's the fun part. Even if you make like that the keys will disappears once you go to menu.How will you go back? Unless someone manage to make the keys permanent in all screen.This will make once heck of ugly UI. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM
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first full touch smartphone crown is N900.i never slide up the keyboard.
opps.sorry.thats not smartphone,its tablet. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 09:47 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM) first full touch smartphone crown is N900.i never slide up the keyboard. SmartTabLePhone...opps.sorry.thats not smartphone,its tablet. This post has been edited by andrekua: Jun 23 2011, 09:48 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:48 PM
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oh!!!finally got touch focus!!cant wait to try it!!!drool!
sounds like sifu..... |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:48 PM) oh!!!finally got touch focus!!cant wait to try it!!!drool! Don't forget N900 in Fcam got point focus which is pretty much almost like touch focus ady. sounds like sifu..... |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM) If vol button can take photo, it can also be program to HOME... hehehehe In N900's Android we are using hard press camera button for menu & soft press for back.N900 lacks physical buttons too. QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:46 PM) first full touch smartphone crown is N900.i never slide up the keyboard. N900's VKB is crap.opps.sorry.thats not smartphone,its tablet. |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:48 PM) oh!!!finally got touch focus!!cant wait to try it!!!drool! SlowPokesounds like sifu..... |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:50 PM) SlowPoke u dont get the sarcasm... |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:49 PM) In N900's Android we are using hard press camera button for menu & soft press for back. I think having constant buttons on the bottom of the screen or some kind update from google with no requirement of physical keys will be great.N900 lacks physical buttons too. N900's VKB is crap. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 09:49 PM) In N900's Android we are using hard press camera button for menu & soft press for back. N900 inferior screen...N900 lacks physical buttons too. N900's VKB is crap. N9 can multi touch... COPY multi gesture lor... Added on June 23, 2011, 9:55 pm QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 09:51 PM) u dont get the sarcasm... Nothing new... I CANT WAIT TO TRY F 2.2 This post has been edited by andrekua: Jun 23 2011, 09:55 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:55 PM
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tablet.different stuff.n9 is a phone.
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Jun 23 2011, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:54 PM) N900 inferior screen... Good idea. Let's see. 3 fingers swipe down, Home button.N9 can multi touch... COPY multi gesture lor... 3 fingers swipe right, Back button. Oh, how to hold the keys? O.O |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:54 PM) N900 inferior screen... u want F who?F what?lolN9 can multi touch... COPY multi gesture lor... Added on June 23, 2011, 9:55 pm Nothing new... I CANT WAIT TO TRY F 2.2 |
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Jun 23 2011, 09:58 PM
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wah!!! F2.2!!! ... <--- WTF is this?? fighter jet keh?
cant wait to try it out.. wuu..!! |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 09:56 PM) Good idea. Let's see. 3 fingers swipe down, Home button. Hold what keys?3 fingers swipe right, Back button. Oh, how to hold the keys? O.O My 18months son see me play iPad, now also learn multi gesture liao... WTF!!! At first he used the home button... |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 09:58 PM) Hold what keys? Hold on Home key?My 18months son see me play iPad, now also learn multi gesture liao... WTF!!! At first he used the home button... |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:58 PM) wah!!! F2.2!!! ... <--- WTF is this?? fighter jet keh? this is epic.u want try F2.2?lol.cant wait to try it out.. wuu..!! |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:00 PM) this is epic.u want try F2.2?lol. you will never get it.. coz ISO is ISO.. Aperture is Aperture... ass-hole.. is ass-hole.. it will never change... |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 10:02 PM) you will never get it.. coz ISO is ISO.. Aperture is Aperture... ass-hole.. is ass-hole.. it will never change... u cant wait to try it out?F someone else?this is really late...nokia first touch focus phone.LOL!!! Added on June 23, 2011, 10:05 pmno mechanical shutter key??? This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 10:05 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:04 PM) u cant wait to try it out?F someone else? Touch focus liao... GF2 move aside... DSLR N9 is coming...this is really late...nokia first touch focus phone.LOL!!! Added on June 23, 2011, 10:05 pmno mechanical shutter key??? |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:04 PM) u cant wait to try it out?F someone else? mechanical shuttle key??!! this is really late...nokia first touch focus phone.LOL!!! Added on June 23, 2011, 10:05 pmno mechanical shutter key??? want reflect mirror or not? Added on June 23, 2011, 10:09 pm QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 10:07 PM) Touch focus liao... GF2 move aside... DSLR N9 is coming... wow!! TOUCH FOCUS FINALLY!!! not even the DSLR can do.. N9 pawn DSLR!!  first seen in any device!!Bufung..: " wtf I am using all this while to focus in my SGS?? not touch focus is what then?" This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 10:09 PM |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 10:07 PM) Touch focus liao... GF2 move aside... DSLR N9 is coming... Leica i9 + N9 like Leica i9 + iPhone4? |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 10:07 PM) Touch focus liao... GF2 move aside... DSLR N9 is coming... GF3 already.u slowpoke.QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 10:07 PM) mechanical shuttle key??!! i dont get it.what relfect mirror? want reflect mirror or not? Added on June 23, 2011, 10:09 pm wow!! TOUCH FOCUS FINALLY!!! not even the DSLR can do.. N9 pawn DSLR!! first seen in any device!!Bufung..: " wtf I am using all this while to focus in my SGS?? not touch focus is what then?" |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:18 PM
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Nokia main selling point for N9 is ___________________.
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Jun 23 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 10:18 PM) Nokia main selling point for N9 is ___________________. full touch. |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 10:18 PM) Nokia main selling point for N9 is ___________________. looks liek a big ipod nano |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:28 PM
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no...totally wrong.its F2.2
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Jun 23 2011, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:28 PM) no...totally wrong.its F2.2 Does not matter to the photography noob here... **looking at the mirror** |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 09:04 PM) The so call Nokia window phone seem like totally a Microsoft phone at all to me... beside the logo, where is Nokia? the entire idea is like m$ wanna get their own hardware platform.. LOL.. Previous when Elop took over, I remember some post or blog post something about MS sending some in, attacking from the inside, took over, kill/remove of the threats, join with MS (WP7).... What's next? |
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 10:40 PM) Previous when Elop took over, I remember some post or blog post something about MS sending some in, attacking from the inside, took over, kill/remove of the threats, join with MS (WP7).... next... make the WP7.5 accepted in the market...What's next? and next step.. get rid of the Nokia brand name..( actually no longer important.. it is not a Nokia anyway, anymore)... |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 10:40 PM) Previous when Elop took over, I remember some post or blog post something about MS sending some in, attacking from the inside, took over, kill/remove of the threats, join with MS (WP7).... in what Fu*king sense meego is not competitive???WP7 is doing better job?Elop.aiks.What's next? |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:47 PM) in what Fu*king sense meego is not competitive???WP7 is doing better job?Elop.aiks. There's one article posted, about Elop killing Maemo/MeeGo as it's a potential threat/competitor; It talks about how it kills off the entire project and not letting other company to buy/take over. |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 10:50 PM) There's one article posted, about Elop killing Maemo/MeeGo as it's a potential threat/competitor; It talks about how it kills off the entire project and not letting other company to buy/take over. source?kick elop arse out pls.honestly,windows phone 7 is smooth,great os but the ui is very ugly.who want the ugly ui on their phone?i will only use wp7 as my main phone after they change the entire ui.too ugly. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 10:57 PM |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:53 PM) source?kick elop arse out pls.honestly,windows phone 7 is smooth,great os but the ui is very ugly.who want the ugly ui on their phone? Very smooth. i will only use wp7 as my main phone after they change the entire ui.too ugly. I thought suitable for old people? |
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Jun 23 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 23 2011, 10:58 PM) Very smooth. TBH,i reli love the entire os but the ui make me step back from it.i dump my hd7 due to the ui.i cant accept it everytime i unlock my phone/screen. I thought suitable for old people? This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 10:59 PM |
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Meego is a threat? Hehehe... dont look too highly on Nokia la. If Meego is really as highly rated, they dont need to go and beg MS and Google lor.
If Maemo is highly successful, I will have my reservation. But for Meego, I think better put it to sleep la. Its way too late to the party. As for Nokia WP7, lets wait and see what they could do with it. Its too early to tell. Added on June 23, 2011, 11:02 pm QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:59 PM) TBH,i reli love the entire os but the ui make me step back from it.i dump my hd7 due to the ui.i cant accept it everytime i unlock my phone/screen. I shall wait outside your house next time you bought a WP7... I wanna try it DESPERATELY...This post has been edited by andrekua: Jun 23 2011, 11:02 PM |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:01 PM) Meego is a threat? Hehehe... dont look too highly on Nokia la. If Meego is really as highly rated, they dont need to go and beg MS and Google lor. they beg MS or google?lol..for meego,i'll tengok dulu...as this is first n last meego device from nokia.i wonder how is the ecosystem will be.although the other manufacturer join the party,LG,huawei n bla bla.If Maemo is highly successful, I will have my reservation. But for Meego, I think better put it to sleep la. Its way too late to the party. As for Nokia WP7, lets wait and see what they could do with it. Its too early to tell. Added on June 23, 2011, 11:02 pm I shall wait outside your house next time you bought a WP7... I wanna try it DESPERATELY... lol..i'll never ever use again.unless microsoft allow modification(UI) for wp7. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 11:07 PM) they beg MS or google?lol..for meego,i'll tengok dulu...as this is first n last meego device from nokia.i wonder how is the ecosystem will be.although the other manufacturer join the party,LG,huawei n bla bla. Bagero punya Nokia given chance to change UI but don't want to change lol..i'll never ever use again.unless microsoft allow modification(UI) for wp7. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:18 PM) Bagero punya Nokia given chance to change UI but don't want to change at least change on icon.icon on wp7 is reli ugly.use anna icon at least.. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 10:53 PM) source?kick elop arse out pls.honestly,windows phone 7 is smooth,great os but the ui is very ugly.who want the ugly ui on their phone? It's an article, truth or not, no idea:i will only use wp7 as my main phone after they change the entire ui.too ugly. http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011...ki-124-en.shtml "What happened was: Stephen Elop deliberately shut down Maemo/Meego to eliminate a potential competitor of Apple and Microsoft. All Elop's actions show that he has prohibited such developments inside Nokia and has done everything to prevent anyone from acquiring it outside Nokia. I hate conspiracy theories but the facts I have speak for themselves – it is a destruction of a potential competitor to the existing operating systems." QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:01 PM) Meego is a threat? Hehehe... dont look too highly on Nokia la. If Meego is really as highly rated, they dont need to go and beg MS and Google lor. Successful is depends on the public; MeeGo may do better; Maemo is actually very good and has lots of potential, but its still incomplete, just workable. The phone functions is very basic, many features still lacking, they have many good concepts, they integrated social networking into contact book which others hasn't done it before (well, as I know of - Which MS later announce WP7 which emphasizes on Social Networks), and there is potential to grow as it can easily be added more to it, so much more in the OS, plus the first to have full Flash support, porting many desktop apps over, like actual MSN for Linux, mplayer, codecs support, myPaint (desktop paint applications), Chrome browser, etc.If Maemo is highly successful, I will have my reservation. But for Meego, I think better put it to sleep la. Its way too late to the party. As for Nokia WP7, lets wait and see what they could do with it. Its too early to tell. Added on June 23, 2011, 11:02 pm I shall wait outside your house next time you bought a WP7... I wanna try it DESPERATELY... But, this may not suit the general public; especially when most people are into simplicity and branding; Plus many are influence by the iFruit. It sort of created a mindset that only need simple functions, there's no need to learn more complicated/advance features, making people reluctant to use a more complicated device. So when they use a more advance/complicated device which offers much more, they can't handle it and say it is not nice to use. Some, that explore and wants more may eventually move out and move on. Anyway, all I can say is, there're many category of users, the best is IF the OS can be design to be simple and easy to use, AT THE SAME TIME, provide OPTIONS/CHOICE to the users. Example: 1. Don't want/like Homescreen? Turn it off. (Or Default, turn off) 2. Don't want/like Flash? Turn if off. (Or Default, Turn off) In short, the OS can be in default mode, in simple mode, very fast and smooth; It's up to the user to decide and choose. But sometimes, business/company may not think like this, such as, one company; It prefers to restrict and control it's users, ensuring they only do what he intend or want them to do; This way, you don't get idiot/dumb users to activate advance features and complains about the problems which actually due to user problem. Added on June 23, 2011, 11:23 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:18 PM) Bagero punya Nokia given chance to change UI but don't want to change Maybe later wanna "take over" time, quite troublesome. This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 23 2011, 11:23 PM |
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I wont comment on Maemo SUPERIORITY because I never really used it. Only circling nipple in the browser nia.
Superior does not mean its successful. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 23 2011, 11:20 PM) at least change on icon.icon on wp7 is reli ugly.use anna icon at least.. Nnoooo...Stephen Elop says everything comes with WP7 is the best.QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 23 2011, 11:22 PM) It's an article, truth or not, no idea: There was potential with Maemo but it was kept as experiment for far too long because Nokia simply refused to kill Symbian.There was plan to release Maemo 6 which was planned to mass market & that's when sh*tstorm started.Maemo merged as MeeGo,management changed,people resign & someone from Microsoft chosen as CEO.Nokia is in mess now.At least Elop is trying to clear out things although with an unpopular plan.http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011...ki-124-en.shtml » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Anyway, all I can say is, there're many category of users, the best is IF the OS can be design to be simple and easy to use, AT THE SAME TIME, provide OPTIONS/CHOICE to the users. Example: 1. Don't want/like Homescreen? Turn it off. (Or Default, turn off) 2. Don't want/like Flash? Turn if off. (Or Default, Turn off) In short, the OS can be in default mode, in simple mode, very fast and smooth; It's up to the user to decide and choose. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I agree with your idea of letting people to turn off functions. Perhaps it's possible to open another homescreen with a hack?But the major trouble is we don't know if it's remotely possible to run any kind of widget in N9. QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:31 PM) I wont comment on Maemo SUPERIORITY because I never really used it. Only circling nipple in the browser nia. Indeed.Superior does not mean its successful. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 23 2011, 11:35 PM |
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early early change to MeeGo mah hou loh.. put what godlike 12MP into the Symbian mah still the same...
no matter how u polish a kancil.. it mah still a kancil.. macam mana boleh race dgn fatlali iOS... |
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why choose polycarbonate instead of the material that were use in n8??? look mucj much better
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Jun 23 2011, 11:39 PM
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N9 launch : Nokia share went up
Nokia WP7 leaked : Share went down deep again Draw the conclusion yourself |
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Jun 23 2011, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 11:36 PM) early early change to MeeGo mah hou loh.. put what godlike 12MP into the Symbian mah still the same... No, you should use NokiaXP comment...no matter how u polish a kancil.. it mah still a kancil.. macam mana boleh race dgn fatlali iOS... (Yo)u the one need to see doctor coz your brain something wrong. Buy phone to take photo |
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 11:39 PM) why choose polycarbonate instead of the material that were use in n8??? look mucj much better Cost cutting I suppose |
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 11:39 PM) why choose polycarbonate instead of the material that were use in n8??? look mucj much better when ppl comment on the brand they like.. it polycarbonate.. when see other brand.. what la the cheap plastic!!! QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:41 PM) No, you should use NokiaXP comment... (Yo)u the one need to see doctor coz your brain something wrong. Buy phone to take photo good.. very true... Added on June 23, 2011, 11:44 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:41 PM) Cost cutting I suppose limitation of making unibody aluminium...antenna gate issue etc... plastic.. u can do watever way u like... sleep.. zzzz night.. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 23 2011, 11:44 PM |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:41 PM) Cost cutting I suppose its just couldnt work for some people.............trying to come out their high-end device and give us high quality plastic |
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 11:45 PM) its just couldnt work for some people.............trying to come out their high-end device and give us high quality plastic If it's proven to give better reception then why not?You want all metal phone that need spesial way holding in order to avoid dropping call? Smartphone is still goddamn phone.It should have good phone function & good reception. Else it's a fail phone even if it has quadcore processors. |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 23 2011, 11:43 PM) good.. very true... You are the one who should see a doctor. Buy phone to ____________. 1. Game 2. Online 3. Social 4. HACK |
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 23 2011, 11:45 PM) its just couldnt work for some people.............trying to come out their high-end device and give us high quality plastic sgs,sgs2....Added on June 23, 2011, 11:57 pm QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:51 PM) But then people also think.. haha.finally u understand.if not u read again.http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1920582&st=100&p=43318701&#entry43318701You are the one who should see a doctor. Buy phone to ____________. 1. Game 2. Online 3. Social 4. HACK This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 11:57 PM |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 23 2011, 11:31 PM) I wont comment on Maemo SUPERIORITY because I never really used it. Only circling nipple in the browser nia. Agree, superior does not mean it's successful. That's what I also said in my previous post.Superior does not mean its successful. Superior or not, it depends on what a person is looking for. For me, or when smartphone started, I believe everyone was looking for a mobile computer, that works like a real computer, your laptop/notebook in the size of your palm; To date, none has come close; but the N900, it was something else; perhaps because it was actually a Tablet OS, adding in phone functionality. As with many Linux professionals/fans, they're into this device; I'm no Linux user or fan. I'm just an ordinary Windows users, but the potential and capability of the Maemo OS, is far different from other smartphone OS, especially during it's time; But it's very much incomplete, and it hardly progress or improve. Technology moves fast, now, it's already behind, too bad; but it's Desktop concept it's still something none can provide to date; probably never will as people seems to have "portrait" homescreen imprint to their mind; unless they make it flexible enough with options/choices. Anyway, in short definition by many "pros", Maemo OS is a full-blown Linux on the mobile phone, while the rest are like scaled-down OS for mobile phones. For me, I may look at it as a mobile running an actual Windows OS for Desktop, VS a mobile running Windows Mobile OS; which is a big difference, but may not matter to general public who just want a simple to use , low battery consumption, etc. "smartphone". As another example: There can be "sports" version o "GTi" version or Sports car, but it's not a general choice for the general public, they want a simple to drive, low fuel consumption, comfortable car. If someone looking for a comfortable car, fuel efficient, car, buys a sports version of the car because people say it's good; Will only end up with complains of high fuel consumption, not comfortable, etc. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:33 PM) Nnoooo...Stephen Elop says everything comes with WP7 is the best. Maemo6; They didn't even complete Maemo5; When it launch, it was more like "workable" version; USSD wasn't even implemented, no MMS, no contacts grouping, so many things that Nokia SHOULD'VE KNOWN and have experience with years of experience from Symbian and implemented well in Symbian. I'm surprised when I heard they were developing Maemo6 and later merging into MeeGo. There was potential with Maemo but it was kept as experiment for far too long because Nokia simply refused to kill Symbian.There was plan to release Maemo 6 which was planned to mass market & that's when sh*tstorm started.Maemo merged as MeeGo,management changed,people resign & someone from Microsoft chosen as CEO.Nokia is in mess now.At least Elop is trying to clear out things although with an unpopular plan. I agree with your idea of letting people to turn off functions. Perhaps it's possible to open another homescreen with a hack?But the major trouble is we don't know if it's remotely possible to run any kind of widget in N9. Indeed. It's sad; If they can't do it, why not release it to someone who're keen to maintain in, there's so many potential people in tmo, and they done so much good job for the Maemo5. And now MeeGo, which is so much different and many things removed, those softwares developed for Maemo5 can go down the drain as the so called Maemo6 doesn't have anymore support for it. Well, it's just too bad; Hope Nokia will release Maemo source to those people who are keen to improve it; So many things can be done; Plus, if it can be install on a better hardware, things will again be different. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:00 AM
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@andy for only 1 reason,M$ profit.
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Windows Phone 7 just "leaked" by Stephen Elop.
Nokia's first WP7 device codenamed Sea Ray breaks loose I bet it's because MeeGo was getting so much positive reaction, that Microsoft had to step in and "leak" some information about WP7 so people would still be interested in it. |
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nokia cover is matte and have no metalic or carbon fiber design.....its ok..btw the ui looks good ..didnt know that it has 1gb of ram... . . the graphic card should be enough .... . but couldnt support tegra 2 games..wait..is it the processor that make it support
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Putting desktop into tiny 4" screen won't goes well with most people. If it did, it's M$ who will benefit, not Nokia.
For most people, they want a phone with simplified pc functionalities such as web surfing, copying files, viewing document whereas people who like N900 want a desktop that can make calls. The problem with Nokia is that they are lazy. You want pc functionalities, they simply shrink the whole desktop for you. They do not think of the limitation presented with the availability of the present hardware, which is why they abandon it. Google and Apple fared better because they rip out things that currently don't work, coupled with latest in technology which work like charm. Slowly adding back the stuffs as hardware limitation become fewer and able to deliver a better user experience. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:52 AM
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Some of the MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan functions demo - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL399857...feature=mh_lolz
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Jun 24 2011, 01:07 AM
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no gyroscope....the more i figure out,im getting more n more disappoint..this is another yesteryear device like n8.
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Launch date and price would severely affect the sales i believe
QUOTE(http://www.fonearena.com/blog/39725/nokia-n9-price-revealed.html) Nokia N9 16GB version – $660 approx – Rs.30K Nokia N9 64GB version – $749 approx – Rs.35K ... Don't see where it would be positioned in with the price of RM2k.. SGS2 anytime for me.. tho I liked the entire concept they are aiming for.. The dying support from Nokia is worrying too.. This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Jun 24 2011, 01:13 AM |
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As I watched more and more video, I started to wonder.
Where is the bookmark manager for the browser? Don't tell me I have to put all my bookmarks as apps? Although I do saw Mozilla Fennec icon in one of the videos... |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 01:29 AM) As I watched more and more video, I started to wonder. If I'm not mistaken bookmark is supported.Also you can add website like speed dial in Opera.Where is the bookmark manager for the browser? Don't tell me I have to put all my bookmarks as apps? Although I do saw Mozilla Fennec icon in one of the videos... But yes,we need more hands on video to know more about the browser. |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 12:44 AM) Putting desktop into tiny 4" screen won't goes well with most people. If it did, it's M$ who will benefit, not Nokia. True, actually MS can but there're many factors to consider, like processor, battery life, etc. For N900, it's Maemo5, it's not a new Tablet OS. But anyway, it's something not "refined" like you said.For most people, they want a phone with simplified pc functionalities such as web surfing, copying files, viewing document whereas people who like N900 want a desktop that can make calls. The problem with Nokia is that they are lazy. You want pc functionalities, they simply shrink the whole desktop for you. They do not think of the limitation presented with the availability of the present hardware, which is why they abandon it. Google and Apple fared better because they rip out things that currently don't work, coupled with latest in technology which work like charm. Slowly adding back the stuffs as hardware limitation become fewer and able to deliver a better user experience. I don't think Apple will add the feature as they could've done much more, it's more like they "want" to limit and restrict and control. It's easier to control and have less problems if you have control and restrictions. For Google, the OS originally was not from Google anyway, and it didn't start out as a full-blown OS. For MS, the Windows Mobile, since Pocket PC era, was never a real Windows OS, but a scaled-down OS; There's the Windows CE which is more powerful? Anyway, as for Maemo, I think this team is not so much related to Nokia; Maybe it's part of Nokia, the phone functionality implemented, seems have no Nokia experience in it; If there's no Nokia branding, one might not know it's Nokia? What I would say is, instead of ripping out things, they could TURN OFF the feature as default; It's up to the user to decide to unlock and use each feature. When N900 first launch, the root was locked; To unlock this, users need to decide to take the "Red Pill" to enable Root Access. So far, we have many SIMPLIFIED OS, they all look and does almost the same thing. Where're the sports/performance cars? Maemo is gone. MeeGo gone simplified. The category is closed down. As I mention in N900 thread before, they're coming up with another OS that look like iOS and Android; Why should user choose it over the BIG and FAMOUS 2? Even for Desktop OS, we have netbook OS of Windows 7 Starter; Those who knows the limitation, will want to upgrade. Unless the person really just need it for simple usage; But smartphone, netbook, laptop, will have many types of users; There will be users who demand more, or eventually will demand more as they advance themselves. Just like people who use a normal phone, then starts with smartphone, they slowly learn and use/utilize more, and then they will question how come it cannot do what my computer can do. (e.g. Why my phone cannot browse like my PC?... and slowly they will discover more and want more). People will keep moving forward, technology too; Eventually one day, smartphones will become more and more powerful, BUT, is it cannot be made available now? It can, but it's not selling well since the general public hasn't reach that stage and the OS is not well implemented (e.g. made simple with advance features as options to be turn on). As many VERY POWERFUL software, they made it EASY for beginner to pick up and use, at the same time, it is VERY POWERFUL for power users/profesionals. For smartphone OS, they need to apply the same concept; It doesn't have down-scale and make the OS a low end simple OS, but they can make it EASY and SIMPLE to use for any beginner, at the same time, at the hands of advance/power users or profesionals, they can utlize it. This way, it can fit an users, and beginner can slowly advance and move on. |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 24 2011, 01:42 AM) True, actually MS can but there're many factors to consider, like processor, battery life, etc. For N900, it's Maemo5, it's not a new Tablet OS. But anyway, it's something not "refined" like you said. good point,i would like to make conclusion for this statement.User frenly,mass market,profit.I don't think Apple will add the feature as they could've done much more, it's more like they "want" to limit and restrict and control. It's easier to control and have less problems if you have control and restrictions. For Google, the OS originally was not from Google anyway, and it didn't start out as a full-blown OS. For MS, the Windows Mobile, since Pocket PC era, was never a real Windows OS, but a scaled-down OS; There's the Windows CE which is more powerful? Anyway, as for Maemo, I think this team is not so much related to Nokia; Maybe it's part of Nokia, the phone functionality implemented, seems have no Nokia experience in it; If there's no Nokia branding, one might not know it's Nokia? What I would say is, instead of ripping out things, they could TURN OFF the feature as default; It's up to the user to decide to unlock and use each feature. When N900 first launch, the root was locked; To unlock this, users need to decide to take the "Red Pill" to enable Root Access. So far, we have many SIMPLIFIED OS, they all look and does almost the same thing. Where're the sports/performance cars? Maemo is gone. MeeGo gone simplified. The category is closed down. As I mention in N900 thread before, they're coming up with another OS that look like iOS and Android; Why should user choose it over the BIG and FAMOUS 2? Even for Desktop OS, we have netbook OS of Windows 7 Starter; Those who knows the limitation, will want to upgrade. Unless the person really just need it for simple usage; But smartphone, netbook, laptop, will have many types of users; There will be users who demand more, or eventually will demand more as they advance themselves. Just like people who use a normal phone, then starts with smartphone, they slowly learn and use/utilize more, and then they will question how come it cannot do what my computer can do. (e.g. Why my phone cannot browse like my PC?... and slowly they will discover more and want more). People will keep moving forward, technology too; Eventually one day, smartphones will become more and more powerful, BUT, is it cannot be made available now? It can, but it's not selling well since the general public hasn't reach that stage and the OS is not well implemented (e.g. made simple with advance features as options to be turn on). As many VERY POWERFUL software, they made it EASY for beginner to pick up and use, at the same time, it is VERY POWERFUL for power users/profesionals. For smartphone OS, they need to apply the same concept; It doesn't have down-scale and make the OS a low end simple OS, but they can make it EASY and SIMPLE to use for any beginner, at the same time, at the hands of advance/power users or profesionals, they can utlize it. This way, it can fit an users, and beginner can slowly advance and move on. |
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Jun 24 2011, 02:17 AM
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Nerds rejoice! There are still terminal fun in N9.
Root is enabled by enabling developers mode. @Andy214 Looking at this video Nokia did sort of implement what you said earlier.There are advanced functions in N9 but it's turned off by default.Advanced users can turn it on. Now if only widgets supported.... Suddenly N9 looks extra attractive to me This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 02:22 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 02:26 AM
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widget?widget thing is very subjective.like the touch wiz3.0-4.0 is unnecessary at all.the home screen n the menu,cant see any different.but htc sense is doing great job(its still depends on personal preferences,some hate it).
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Jun 24 2011, 02:44 AM
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Lolz guys..virtual key button?? Look video 1st b4 asking!! Plenty of video bout N9..Don't just look at pics!! Just keep it simple..No need key can remove la..Sorry guys but some1 too lazy la..haha
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Jun 24 2011, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 02:17 AM) Nerds rejoice! There are still terminal fun in N9. Let's hope so; Hopefully the OS is very flexible and customizable, and maybe they can implement a proper homescreen or Desktop; It'll be nice if the Desktop can be preference of Portrait or Landscape, which can prevent people who are not "accustomed" to Landscape mode.Root is enabled by enabling developers mode. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « @Andy214 Looking at this video Nokia did sort of implement what you said earlier.There are advanced functions in N9 but it's turned off by default.Advanced users can turn it on. Now if only widgets supported.... Suddenly N9 looks extra attractive to me Anyway, as long as it's open and flexible/customizable, I'm sure there will be many amazing developers provide many useful softwares and customization for it, just like Maemo5. As this OS, the good point: it seems more properly implemented and more complete, seems stable compared to Maemo5, and the social networks integration supposedly is well implemented now. Overall, it looks positive; but will see how things turn out when it's actually launch especially when the Mango looks good too. WebOS looks great too, but the device design is a real turn off |
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Jun 24 2011, 03:21 AM
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Nokia pretty much covered all basics with MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan.Inclusion of WiFi hotspot is a real surprise.
N950 already started shipping to selected developers. Now if only Myriad Alien Dalvik demo some Android games in N9 it'll be good. Honestly speaking I think WP7 Mango will have more less same amount of feature as MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan but with worse UI.So far the developers reception on WP7 has been so-so.This won't change anytime soon.Time will tell whether the addition of Nokia as WP7 manufacturer encourage devs to support WP7. Microsoft definitely gained a lot by having Nokia as WP7 manufacturer but will Nokia have any significant gain with this partnership?With less income from their regular value added services they have to expect sale of high volume of devices for high profit.Can they do it? By looking @ Sea Ray it's not likely.Since there's little change from other WP7 devices made by other manufacturers,some users might just go for other WP7 familiar device. But all is not lost.There is still few more months before Nokia World.If Elop just present the similar thing then I'm afraid that even a WP7 with physical keyboard won't save the day for Nokia. Also Nokia better hope that Microsoft keep updating the OS fast enough.In the past with Symbian or Maemo if there are performance issue or lack of functions users can use custom rom or modify the OS slightly to suit their need.But by going for closed source there won't be any such privileges.Can the regular Nokia users who got used to be in control of their device get used to this? I just dislike the WP7.Just consist of wall of boxes.Plus the childish fonts I like webOS a lot even though it's closed source.Even Eiraku loves it.Very polished OS but as you say their device design is really bad.They have decent developers support too.Thank god for that else Maemo5 users would have been stuck with playing Angry Birds forever.Another issue with webOS is the availability of their device.It's hard find webOS device here. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 03:23 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 03:41 AM
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never try webos...aiks.
Added on June 24, 2011, 3:57 ami wonder the open source community will join meego party.coz nokia dont have any future plan for it. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 24 2011, 03:57 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 06:13 AM
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it looks like i am going to join this thread soon... as soon as nokia releases it anyway...
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Jun 24 2011, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 02:17 AM) Nerds rejoice! There are still terminal fun in N9. Thanks a lot for the news. Phew, now I can rejoice Root is enabled by enabling developers mode. @Andy214 Looking at this video Nokia did sort of implement what you said earlier.There are advanced functions in N9 but it's turned off by default.Advanced users can turn it on. Now if only widgets supported.... Suddenly N9 looks extra attractive to me Anyway, this phone surely looks more and more compelling for me to try this. I wonder if the leaked Flash 10 from TI is installable and compatible with this? Since it still using the DEB packaging. Just a question tho... For Vanilla Meego .rpm apps, I'm sure that it can be converted to .deb via Alien. So no problem there. And I really hope that Preenv is going to be ported, so that we can have some gaming goodness (Although I can be perfectly contented wif emulators )Now whats left is some demo for Alien Dalvik, and my life will complete. I don't really care about the social network thingy cause N9 already integrate it well enough into the OS. So where does ecosystem stands now? p/s: I sometimes wonder, why no one tries to integrate Android into Maemo ala what Easy Debian has done? Just curious... |
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Jun 24 2011, 06:39 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 23 2011, 11:39 PM) N9 launch : Nokia share went up To Elop, it's bad cause this way, it's harder for Microsoft to take up Nokia. Nokia WP7 leaked : Share went down deep again Draw the conclusion yourself Added on June 24, 2011, 6:50 am QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 06:36 AM) Thanks a lot for the news. Phew, now I can rejoice If we can install Android apps, why do we still need Preenv? Anyway, this phone surely looks more and more compelling for me to try this. I wonder if the leaked Flash 10 from TI is installable and compatible with this? Since it still using the DEB packaging. Just a question tho... For Vanilla Meego .rpm apps, I'm sure that it can be converted to .deb via Alien. So no problem there. And I really hope that Preenv is going to be ported, so that we can have some gaming goodness (Although I can be perfectly contented wif emulators )Now whats left is some demo for Alien Dalvik, and my life will complete. I don't really care about the social network thingy cause N9 already integrate it well enough into the OS. So where does ecosystem stands now? p/s: I sometimes wonder, why no one tries to integrate Android into Maemo ala what Easy Debian has done? Just curious... This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 24 2011, 06:50 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 08:04 AM
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Wait next month and ask Nokia about it. Meego vs WP7? I definitely take WP7.
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Jun 24 2011, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 02:29 AM) As I watched more and more video, I started to wonder. this is the answerWhere is the bookmark manager for the browser? Don't tell me I have to put all my bookmarks as apps? Although I do saw Mozilla Fennec icon in one of the videos... |
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Jun 24 2011, 08:38 AM
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Base on most of the video this n9 suppose to be a final release product or very close to.... unlike the n8 out already still bloody buggie....
but then why they still need at least half a year only able to ship the device? |
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Jun 24 2011, 10:27 AM
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Nokia claim it to be unfinalized. maybr they want to do some tweaking b4 the 'big' launch worldwide
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Jun 24 2011, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 24 2011, 03:41 AM) never try webos...aiks. Maemo probably has one of the best open source community.They provided updates & apps when Nokia abandoned this phone.Lot's of people still interested with MeeGo but I don't know how long they can can put up with Nokia's shenanigans.Very bad support for Maemo/MeeGo devices. Added on June 24, 2011, 3:57 ami wonder the open source community will join meego party.coz nokia dont have any future plan for it. QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 06:36 AM) Thanks a lot for the news. Phew, now I can rejoice Among all the videos I watched I think the last video was the most important for me Anyway, this phone surely looks more and more compelling for me to try this. I wonder if the leaked Flash 10 from TI is installable and compatible with this? Since it still using the DEB packaging. Just a question tho... For Vanilla Meego .rpm apps, I'm sure that it can be converted to .deb via Alien. So no problem there. And I really hope that Preenv is going to be ported, so that we can have some gaming goodness (Although I can be perfectly contented wif emulators )Now whats left is some demo for Alien Dalvik, and my life will complete. I don't really care about the social network thingy cause N9 already integrate it well enough into the OS. So where does ecosystem stands now? p/s: I sometimes wonder, why no one tries to integrate Android into Maemo ala what Easy Debian has done? Just curious... Leaked flash files might need some tweaking for it to work perfectly.I patched the leaked flash 10 for N900 & it doesn't work that smoothly If Alien Dalvik really provide complete Android apps integration in MeeGo then I don't think we need preenv.Anyway I don't think MeeGo have same framework as webOS.preenv won't work if it's like that. Social network integration has always been highlight with Maemo devices.Although some of the manufacturers making lots of huha's regarding how they integrating social betwork on their devices,Nokia did it 1st in 2009 with Maemo5.Skype,IM & facebook were very well integrated in Maemo 5. There reason why no one bother to integrate Android in Maemo is probably because someone else managed to port the entire Android to work as proper OS in N900 I genuinely believe if Nokia provided any kind of future software support they can sell this device. Added on June 24, 2011, 10:53 am QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 24 2011, 10:27 AM) Nokia claim it to be unfinalized. maybr they want to do some tweaking b4 the 'big' launch worldwide Really?From what I read from bunch of sites no one have complain regarding the OS stability.So far no demo model OS crashed (like the N8 in Engadget preview) & all the features are pretty much included & working. N8 on the other hand was plagued by bugs even from the early days. So why the delay if you don't have much issue with this device? The faster they ship this device the faster Elop can play with his blocky phone. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 10:53 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:12 AM
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Linux lead the world now... iOS, Android n now MeeGo..
M$ can keep skin liao... |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 08:38 AM) Base on most of the video this n9 suppose to be a final release product or very close to.... unlike the n8 out already still bloody buggie.... Elop plan-announce=ship soon.so its finalized product unlike OPK era.but then why they still need at least half a year only able to ship the device? QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 10:48 AM) Maemo probably has one of the best open source community.They provided updates & apps when Nokia abandoned this phone.Lot's of people still interested with MeeGo but I don't know how long they can can put up with Nokia's shenanigans.Very bad support for Maemo/MeeGo devices. Android is the largest open source community isnt it?Among all the videos I watched I think the last video was the most important for me Leaked flash files might need some tweaking for it to work perfectly.I patched the leaked flash 10 for N900 & it doesn't work that smoothly If Alien Dalvik really provide complete Android apps integration in MeeGo then I don't think we need preenv.Anyway I don't think MeeGo have same framework as webOS.preenv won't work if it's like that. Social network integration has always been highlight with Maemo devices.Although some of the manufacturers making lots of huha's regarding how they integrating social betwork on their devices,Nokia did it 1st in 2009 with Maemo5.Skype,IM & facebook were very well integrated in Maemo 5. There reason why no one bother to integrate Android in Maemo is probably because someone else managed to port the entire Android to work as proper OS in N900 I genuinely believe if Nokia provided any kind of future software support they can sell this device. Added on June 24, 2011, 10:53 am Really? From what I read from bunch of sites no one have complain regarding the OS stability.So far no demo model OS crashed (like the N8 in Engadget preview) & all the features are pretty much included & working. N8 on the other hand was plagued by bugs even from the early days. So why the delay if you don't have much issue with this device? The faster they ship this device the faster Elop can play with his blocky phone. Added on June 24, 2011, 11:19 am QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 11:12 AM) Linux lead the world now... iOS, Android n now MeeGo.. M$ source code hard to get ma...M$ can keep skin liao... This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 24 2011, 11:19 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:32 AM
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Open Source community... Nothing beat Android...
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Jun 24 2011, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 24 2011, 11:18 AM) Elop plan-announce=ship soon.so its finalized product unlike OPK era. I sure hope Nokia starts shipping their products soon.Android is the largest open source community isnt it? Added on June 24, 2011, 11:19 am M$ source code hard to get ma... Yes,Android is the largest mobile open source community.But from what I've seen majority of the community are just regular end users want to have fun flashing & looking to update their OS. But for Maemo majority of users always contribute for the OS. It could be as small as testing beta app to enhancing the kernel. Another thing about Maemo community is they are very organized.Lets say one function is missing.The project leader will look for other users to develop it.Once the team done with it they'll ask others to beta test it.Then it'll be integrated in CSSU (Community Updates for the OS) or if hardware related in kernel. I like this organized working part a lot.Eventhough there multiple projects going on but when it comes to integrating it to OS everyone play nice. With Android device you don't visibly see what was updated by the 3rd party team but in Maemo you can see it.Just take a N900 running stock PR 1.2 another N900 running modified kernel & updated OS.There are lot's of differences. I'm not saying Android community is anything lesser.They do have good projects going on like Cyanogenmod. MS will sue your pants off if they know you have their source codes. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 11:44 AM |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 11:32 AM) Open Source community... Nothing beat Android... It's backed by the big 'G' and the progress is fast unlike other OS. Plus, after Nokia abandon ship on Maemo many have jump to Android, including those "professionals". |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 24 2011, 11:43 AM) It's backed by the big 'G' and the progress is fast unlike other OS. most of those real PRO and famous in Symbian community .. in the LOVELY N97 era already left and join Android...Plus, after Nokia abandon ship on Maemo many have jump to Android, including those "professionals". big big chunk of Android community are actually from Symbian... the G is the biggest Enemy to M$... |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 11:51 AM) most of those real PRO and famous in Symbian community .. in the LOVELY N97 era already left and join Android... Biggest enemy to M$ is fruit company isnt it?lol.big big chunk of Android community are actually from Symbian... the G is the biggest Enemy to M$... 434mhz is not enough!haha. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 11:48 AM) Really? Don't get me wrong, I didn't say it was unstable, just its a pre-release version, unfinalized one. Maybe they would do some TWEAKING like add more features (which I think they wont) b4 the big launch D:From what I read from bunch of sites no one have complain regarding the OS stability.So far no demo model OS crashed (like the N8 in Engadget preview) & all the features are pretty much included & working. N8 on the other hand was plagued by bugs even from the early days. So why the delay if you don't have much issue with this device? The faster they ship this device the faster Elop can play with his blocky phone. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 24 2011, 12:21 PM) Don't get me wrong, I didn't say it was unstable, just its a pre-release version, unfinalized one. Maybe they would do some TWEAKING like add more features (which I think they wont) b4 the big launch D: u think too much.dream on. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 08:04 AM) Wait next month and ask Nokia about it. Meego vs WP7? I definitely take WP7. Lolz..WP7 sucks!! |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 24 2011, 12:21 PM) Don't get me wrong, I didn't say it was unstable, just its a pre-release version, unfinalized one. Maybe they would do some TWEAKING like add more features (which I think they wont) b4 the big launch D: If they do plan to add few more stuff it's a good news for potential owners  |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:40 PM
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but ..... N9 only available in sweden on 23th Sept .... long wait ...
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Jun 24 2011, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jun 24 2011, 12:40 PM) but ..... N9 only available in sweden on 23th Sept .... long wait ... wow .. that's fast.. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 24 2011, 12:28 PM) Lolz..WP7 sucks!! Ask N900 user lor how good Nokia support is for Maemo then only learn to type sucks. |
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Jun 24 2011, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 12:50 PM) Ask N900 user lor how good Nokia support is for Maemo then only learn to type sucks. symbian su*ks |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:05 PM
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Ah, the N9. Bloody took it's time. From the death of my N900 -> E71 (died) -> iPhone 4 (stolen) -> my current SGS2. ONLY THEN did it come out?
The prototypes were around since last yer la wei, Nokia. Not bashing the phone itself, just Nokia. Even more so when the QWERTY toting Dev edition is apparently gonna be VERY limited in production + lacking in the screen department (TFT vs CBDAMOLED). Hopefully, Meego wil not be TOO "mobile" in the sense that both iOS and Android are both not proper "full scale" OSes. I mean rotihalia on my SGS2 is fine, but it's no Maemo. Nothing beats the ability to run DESKTOP software on a handheld device - as far as sheer flexibility is concerned. And is that a single core proc they've stuck in there? |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 12:50 PM) Ask N900 user lor how good Nokia support is for Maemo then only learn to type sucks. I'll summarize Nokia's suppor for Maemo : EXTREMELY BADQUOTE(Eiraku @ Jun 24 2011, 01:05 PM) Ah, the N9. Bloody took it's time. From the death of my N900 -> E71 (died) -> iPhone 4 (stolen) -> my current SGS2. ONLY THEN did it come out? Wondered when you'll pop up in this thread... The prototypes were around since last yer la wei, Nokia. Not bashing the phone itself, just Nokia. Even more so when the QWERTY toting Dev edition is apparently gonna be VERY limited in production + lacking in the screen department (TFT vs CBDAMOLED). Hopefully, Meego wil not be TOO "mobile" in the sense that both iOS and Android are both not proper "full scale" OSes. I mean rotihalia on my SGS2 is fine, but it's no Maemo. Nothing beats the ability to run DESKTOP software on a handheld device - as far as sheer flexibility is concerned. And is that a single core proc they've stuck in there? The removal of some Maemo's ability is a let down as shown in the last video I posted there are usual advanced functions available in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan. My N900 already shows some minor signs of wear & tear.Need to open up for service And yeah,it's using single core processor.But I have to say Nokia is making TI 3630 look like dual core processor with the fluid UI's. |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:35 PM
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absent of xenon,old school BT 2.1,no hdmi port etc etc...the hardware isn't cheer me up.the software,i like.
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Jun 24 2011, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 01:19 PM) I'll summarize Nokia's suppor for Maemo : EXTREMELY BAD But really Nokia, pushing a single core phone out next year and calling it your flagship? Come on lar, I understand it's not all about the specs and users don't realy need geekphones, but even uncles and aunties now know that phones can run dual core and that it's "the future", whether or not that is actually true.Wondered when you'll pop up in this thread... The removal of some Maemo's ability is a let down as shown in the last video I posted there are usual advanced functions available in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan. My N900 already shows some minor signs of wear & tear.Need to open up for service And yeah,it's using single core processor.But I have to say Nokia is making TI 3630 look like dual core processor with the fluid UI's. It's gonna be an incredibly tough thing to sell really. |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:48 PM
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Experimental flagship.
Even if N9 had high end hardwares it'll still be be tough thing to sell because of DOA OS. |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:52 PM
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found out something impressive for n9.its not 1gb sd ram.its 1gb LPDDR2.
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Jun 24 2011, 02:16 PM
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^Actually that's a real surprise.When we started speculate the N9's spec in TMO most of the us guessed it'll come with 512MB RAM only given Nokia's track record which always ship devices with puny amount of RAM.
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Jun 24 2011, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 02:16 PM) ^Actually that's a real surprise.When we started speculate the N9's spec in TMO most of the us guessed it'll come with 512MB RAM only given Nokia's track record which always ship devices with puny amount of RAM. yaya.somemore its not sd ram.but i speculate Ericsson ST-U8500.1.2ghz dual core vf mali 400 end up come with omap3 sgx530 really |
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Jun 24 2011, 02:26 PM
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Wah, all N900/Maemo sifu sudah mali.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 24 2011, 02:26 PM) Wah, all N900/Maemo sifu sudah mali. u go china N900 or N9 thread.then u will know how exciting r them.EDIT: Oops, still got a few missing. blow N9 high to the sky.lol. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 24 2011, 02:33 PM |
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Jun 24 2011, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 24 2011, 02:26 PM) Wah, all N900/Maemo sifu sudah mali. RViN & one1002 still MIAEDIT: Oops, still got a few missing. PS: RViN moved to SGS2 This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 02:35 PM |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 02:33 PM) RViN & one1002 still MIA meLiPS: RViN moved to SGS2 and those that cuztomize their Desktop to MGS! |
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jun 24 2011, 01:45 PM) But really Nokia, pushing a single core phone out next year and calling it your flagship? Come on lar, I understand it's not all about the specs and users don't realy need geekphones, but even uncles and aunties now know that phones can run dual core and that it's "the future", whether or not that is actually true. I can't wait to try Nokia first gigahertz phone... POWAR!!! It's gonna be an incredibly tough thing to sell really.  |
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Jun 24 2011, 03:38 PM
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lol!first gigahertz phone.Nokia.
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Jun 24 2011, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 03:18 PM) I can't wait to try Nokia first gigahertz phone... POWAR!!! nice tag name |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 03:18 PM) I can't wait to try Nokia first gigahertz phone... POWAR!!! wah!!! phone already reaching 1GHz!!! wow!! wah!!!DENG!! yesterday try 1080p youtube one my laptop also jerking.. SGS2 can play it smooth... |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 12:50 PM) Ask N900 user lor how good Nokia support is for Maemo then only learn to type sucks. Haha..don't like buy other brand lor..no need support! Use 2years n then buy other phone..max 5years.. Haha.. Not sure bout Nokia WP7 but just waste of time! Sales will be slow n who used them?? Haha.. |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 24 2011, 04:03 PM) Haha..don't like buy other brand lor..no need support! Use 2years n then buy other phone..max 5years.. Haha.. Not sure bout Nokia WP7 but just waste of time! Sales will be slow n who used them?? Haha.. Haha, you really...Just finished watching full version on Nokia WP7 video. They didn't show much really. Would you buy Nokia's? Hmm... Hard to say. HTC made good work with Sense integration but not everyone really like it. Not everyone is in favor of a full integration. |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 24 2011, 04:03 PM) Haha..don't like buy other brand lor..no need support! Use 2years n then buy other phone..max 5years.. Haha.. Not sure bout Nokia WP7 but just waste of time! Sales will be slow n who used them?? Haha.. wah.. u sound like him...» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 04:28 PM) Haha, you really... Sense is a bit over the top...Just finished watching full version on Nokia WP7 video. They didn't show much really. Would you buy Nokia's? Hmm... Hard to say. HTC made good work with Sense integration but not everyone really like it. Not everyone is in favor of a full integration. For example the weather widget with Sense 3.0.The animation is all nice who practically use it? |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 04:31 PM) Sense is a bit over the top... That is more tolerable than the crapfest of HTC Hub animation on WP7.For example the weather widget with Sense 3.0.The animation is all nice who practically use it? It just totally, totally pointless.... |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:42 PM
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Jun 24 2011, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 04:28 PM) Haha, you really... I'm just an average user..nothing fancy me much esp diff types of 0S..wat matters is de phone itself..Just used it for surfing n de simplicity of using it..I'm using nokia rite now..mayb wait 2 get new phone..I don't know bout HTC, SAMSUNG or etc but they have main points of selling them..HTC UI clock too big! Just waste of power..hahaJust finished watching full version on Nokia WP7 video. They didn't show much really. Would you buy Nokia's? Hmm... Hard to say. HTC made good work with Sense integration but not everyone really like it. Not everyone is in favor of a full integration. Added on June 24, 2011, 4:47 pmI would buy N9 if de price is rite..2k below is ok lor.. This post has been edited by azul78: Jun 24 2011, 04:47 PM |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:53 PM
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wow... Ginger bread on it...
below RM2k... ok?? SGS plus now official price RM1599... LG optimus 2X is RM1799.... |
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Jun 24 2011, 04:56 PM
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Humm, I really want to use N9(50)...but as the meego future is damn elop-ed...
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Jun 24 2011, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 04:40 PM) That is more tolerable than the crapfest of HTC Hub animation on WP7. +1It just totally, totally pointless.... Painfull memory... QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 04:42 PM) Meh...If all you want to see is Nokia phone running Android 2.3.4,feel free to use my phone.That is if you're in Melaka. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 04:56 PM) +1 i want see Ghz Nokia phone running android... lolPainfull memory... Meh... If all you want to see is Nokia phone running Android 2.3.4,feel free to use my phone.That is if you're in Melaka. Added on June 24, 2011, 5:01 pmjokes aside, i really think nokia shouldnt have abandoned meego, it manage to make 2 years old hardware looks cutting edge on that thing... everything is just so butterly smooth.. since it's running based on linux, i read somewhere that it's easy to just have a emulator running to enable android apps to run on meego itself.. then i say that's epic win for nokia already... rangers, shall we all give feedback say we want meego? This post has been edited by BBXiong: Jun 24 2011, 05:01 PM |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 04:59 PM) i want see Ghz Nokia phone running android... lol I'm running my Nokia @ 1GHz.Kira GHz phone la tu... |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 05:01 PM) I'm running my Nokia @ 1GHz. forgot to use the word 'stock' onto it... or dual Ghz, haha...Kira GHz phone la tu... btw i tot most ppl only manage to push it to 900Mhz or so for stability? |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 04:59 PM) i want see Ghz Nokia phone running android... lol Alien Dalvik la tu....Added on June 24, 2011, 5:01 pmjokes aside, i really think nokia shouldnt have abandoned meego, it manage to make 2 years old hardware looks cutting edge on that thing... everything is just so butterly smooth.. since it's running based on linux, i read somewhere that it's easy to just have a emulator running to enable android apps to run on meego itself.. then i say that's epic win for nokia already... rangers, shall we all give feedback say we want meego? like tat sudah jadi Nokia Android lu... |
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Jun 24 2011, 05:04 PM
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If you want MeeGo to be primary platform for Nokia you have to petition to have Anssi Vanjoki as CEO again.He had the plan to make MeeGo as primary platform for Nokia.
You cannot expect a person who was so involved with proprietary software to embrace open source.This is the case with Elop. |
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Jun 24 2011, 05:05 PM
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If MeeGo success.. the new CEO no face lu... ppl question him why get M$ involve lu...
for sure he will kill MeeGo.. |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 05:03 PM) forgot to use the word 'stock' onto it... or dual Ghz, haha... He want to find a reason to move on... btw i tot most ppl only manage to push it to 900Mhz or so for stability? |
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Jun 24 2011, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 05:03 PM) forgot to use the word 'stock' onto it... or dual Ghz, haha... btw i tot most ppl only manage to push it to 900Mhz or so for stability? Nope you can go as far as 1.15GHz. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 04:56 PM) +1 Painfull memory... Meh... If all you want to see is Nokia phone running Android 2.3.4,feel free to use my phone.That is if you're in Melaka. If only I stayed there. Currently in Ipoh (And sumtimes Puchong) maah. QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 04:59 PM) i want see Ghz Nokia phone running android... lol Well, if only they did hear our rant. I still remember during E7 event how me and Aspire bug out the Nokia exec attending there about Maemo and Meego as a whole. If only my N810 was working at that time, I'll show how bad the their support atm.Added on June 24, 2011, 5:01 pmjokes aside, i really think nokia shouldnt have abandoned meego, it manage to make 2 years old hardware looks cutting edge on that thing... everything is just so butterly smooth.. since it's running based on linux, i read somewhere that it's easy to just have a emulator running to enable android apps to run on meego itself.. then i say that's epic win for nokia already... rangers, shall we all give feedback say we want meego? Haih, at the end, we can only talk. Listening or not, its all up to them. And so far, they aint give a damn p/s: I still going to get an N9 tho. In b4 sumone says I'm a masochist |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 05:04 PM) If you want MeeGo to be primary platform for Nokia you have to petition to have Anssi Vanjoki as CEO again.He had the plan to make MeeGo as primary platform for Nokia. Some people contradict themselves. For example, always condemn no Office apps, but WP7 comes with Office suite. What you have on Meego You cannot expect a person who was so involved with proprietary software to embrace open source.This is the case with Elop. |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:10 PM) Some people contradict themselves. For example, always condemn no Office apps, but WP7 comes with Office suite. What you have on Meego The last time I tried Meego Netbook Version, they got Gnumerics, Abiword and even Open Office (Now Libre Office). All OSS staples maah |
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Jun 24 2011, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:10 PM) Some people contradict themselves. For example, always condemn no Office apps, but WP7 comes with Office suite. What you have on Meego No idea on this part but Maemo's Document on The Go should be ported to N9.But there are a lot of third party party office related product in repository.It won't be as perfect as Office Suite but it'll come close. |
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Just example only la. Saw the same thing with some iOS user.
I'm hoping that WP7 will find a way to play along with desktop Windows to a higher level. As for Meego, I don't know what to expect from it. |
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Jun 24 2011, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:21 PM) Just example only la. Saw the same thing with some iOS user. For iOS I found a different problem.I'm hoping that WP7 will find a way to play along with desktop Windows to a higher level. As for Meego, I don't know what to expect from it. For Maemo lets say if I want to view my lecture notes: I connect my phone to computer copy the files & then I can open it from it's location in phone or launch the office application. It's simple to use. But for iOS you cannot really copy the office files directly because of the dependencies with iTunes.I think any office/pdf files need to be pushed to the device via cloud method or jailbreak the device. This is making office application less user friendly & less useful in iOS. |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:21 PM) Just example only la. Saw the same thing with some iOS user. WP7 not just today in the market.. it's already several months... u can see how "well" it does now..I'm hoping that WP7 will find a way to play along with desktop Windows to a higher level. As for Meego, I don't know what to expect from it. Added on June 24, 2011, 5:37 pm QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 05:29 PM) For iOS I found a different problem. that is not a problem.. that is a RESTRICTION ... For Maemo lets say if I want to view my lecture notes: I connect my phone to computer copy the files & then I can open it from it's location in phone or launch the office application. It's simple to use. But for iOS you cannot really copy the office files directly because of the dependencies with iTunes.I think any office/pdf files need to be pushed to the device via cloud method or jailbreak the device. This is making office application less user friendly & less useful in iOS. actually look at Nokie future.. you already can foresee it with WP7 phone sales now... I don't think it gonna be a lot of different.. This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 24 2011, 05:37 PM |
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Nokia N9 could run Android apps: Alien Dalvik interview
QUOTE "Because it goes really deep into the root of the OS, it cannot be a downloadable application. It would have to be ported prior to the phone being shipped. It would have to be a decision of the mobile phone manufacturer or the network." Just release the codes man..With or without Nokia's support someone will manage to integrate it in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 05:58 PM) Nokia N9 could run Android apps: Alien Dalvik interview easy solution to help Nokia with their burning platform:Just release the codes man..With or without Nokia's support someone will manage to integrate it in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan continue with Meego, give money to Myriad to perfect Alien Dalvik, preload with Android market, and done, optimized OS with spammingly lot options for apps |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 06:04 PM) easy solution to help Nokia with their burning platform: do google have the right to stop this? since market belong to them.. continue with Meego, give money to Myriad to perfect Alien Dalvik, preload with Android market, and done, optimized OS with spammingly lot options for apps |
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wow the phone looks REALLY smooth. i might buy it JUST because i'm a nokia fan.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 06:09 PM) do google have the right to stop this? since market belong to them.. Myriad encourage developers of the apps to repackage .ipk to MeeGo compatible apps. I don't think anyone can stop the application writer on what they want to do with their application. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 06:19 PM) Myriad encourage developers of the apps to repackage .ipk to MeeGo compatible apps. that u can do... but direct accessing it is another story...I don't think anyone can stop the application writer on what they want to do with their application. |
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Google Market? Amazon App Store is good enough, and it is great without all the BS of "Google Certified Device"
Nokia, partner up with Myriad, Amazon (Alongside their services such as Kindle, Mp3 etc) and there you are, a feckin ECOSYSTEM. |
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 24 2011, 06:23 PM) Google Market? Amazon App Store is good enough, and it is great without all the BS of "Google Certified Device" but they chosen Microsoft... seriously Nokia, partner up with Myriad, Amazon (Alongside their services such as Kindle, Mp3 etc) and there you are, a feckin ECOSYSTEM. anyway, maybe not preloading the Android Market, but as long as it runs apk file it would be already good enough |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 04:59 PM) i want see Ghz Nokia phone running android... lol It comes with 1GB RAM, and no homescreen, pretty much simplified; N900 with only 256MB RAM, if turn off Desktop, it's smooth; with some customization, it's even more smooth. With such low spec, some people have stress test it running more than 20 apps, running in background, you can see the games rendering in the Task Manager, and so on.Added on June 24, 2011, 5:01 pmjokes aside, i really think nokia shouldnt have abandoned meego, it manage to make 2 years old hardware looks cutting edge on that thing... everything is just so butterly smooth.. since it's running based on linux, i read somewhere that it's easy to just have a emulator running to enable android apps to run on meego itself.. then i say that's epic win for nokia already... rangers, shall we all give feedback say we want meego? If this doesn't work as good, something must be wrong with them. Not sure Epic win/credit for Nokia, or the Maemo/MeeGo team. Even N900, which can dual/triple boot Maemo/Android/MeeGo 1.2 DE, it's not a credit to Nokia. In short, many things done for Maemo and MeeGo, mostly go for the team. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 05:29 PM) For iOS I found a different problem. Hahaha... Steve Jobs is stubborn but he dont reject MONEY...For Maemo lets say if I want to view my lecture notes: I connect my phone to computer copy the files & then I can open it from it's location in phone or launch the office application. It's simple to use. But for iOS you cannot really copy the office files directly because of the dependencies with iTunes.I think any office/pdf files need to be pushed to the device via cloud method or jailbreak the device. This is making office application less user friendly & less useful in iOS. If you are willing to pay, there's an app to settle all this... of course, this will be eliminated with iCloud which is free. |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 24 2011, 06:25 PM) but they chosen Microsoft... seriously Yup, that is really saddening. I'm one of the major user of Amazon "Ecosystem", loving their mp3 store so much and see it as one of the most strong opponent to iTunes. And Amazon App Store is really great, comparable to the Google Market.anyway, maybe not preloading the Android Market, but as long as it runs apk file it would be already good enough I really hope Myriad will just provide the codes freely, while leveraging onto a small fee, or even ad-supported. Trust me, I'm more than willing to pay for it |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 05:58 PM) Nokia N9 could run Android apps: Alien Dalvik interview LOL...Just release the codes man..With or without Nokia's support someone will manage to integrate it in MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan Dont tell me they are comparing ARMv7 on N900 running at 600MHz with HTC Legend ARM11 600MHz and call it run as fast. Some pretty nasty marketing trick. |
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since when elop is a term?meego is eloped.lol.laugh die me.
Added on June 24, 2011, 7:33 pmWhy Nokia need android market?qt5.0 already demo on ipad2 Added on June 24, 2011, 7:41 pm@Andy i heard n900 got 1gb ram? This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 24 2011, 07:41 PM |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 24 2011, 06:47 PM) since when elop is a term?meego is eloped.lol.laugh die me. nandram?!!! yes it have... Added on June 24, 2011, 7:33 pmWhy Nokia need android market?qt5.0 already demo on ipad2 Added on June 24, 2011, 7:41 pm@Andy i heard n900 got 1gb ram?  |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 24 2011, 07:49 PM) nandram?!!! yes it have... could pls explain to me Whats nandram? |
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got leak in endgadget web say that they have android running on nokiA...glory glory nokiaaaaa!!!
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Jun 24 2011, 08:53 PM
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Its a little tricky for handset but in essence, its not much different from Windows. If there were drivers to support the hardware, why not. Even X86 also can run Android.
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Jun 24 2011, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 24 2011, 07:58 PM) could pls explain to me Whats nandram? i donno sir.. i heard it from a sifu... this is out of my knownladge... |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 24 2011, 06:47 PM) since when elop is a term?meego is eloped.lol.laugh die me. 256MB onlyAdded on June 24, 2011, 7:33 pmWhy Nokia need android market?qt5.0 already demo on ipad2 Added on June 24, 2011, 7:41 pm@Andy i heard n900 got 1gb ram? The additional 768 is the virtual/swap memory; pretty much useless. But can at least provide more memory, but once use up to certain amount e.g. 100MB++, the device usually lags more. Retrieving from swap/virtual memory is very slow, you might notice it if you use Windows a lot (not so sure about Windows 7), especially if you set your virtual memory high (even you have a lot of ram). |
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Jun 24 2011, 09:46 PM
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@Andy i heard the nandram is very godlike.
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Jun 24 2011, 09:48 PM
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Surely elop n m$ will kill NOKIA!!
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 24 2011, 09:48 PM) Surely elop n m$ will kill NOKIA!! RIP.... |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 24 2011, 05:21 PM) Just example only la. Saw the same thing with some iOS user. Dis is N9 thread..not WP7 thread..N9 use MeeGo OS.. LoLz..I'm hoping that WP7 will find a way to play along with desktop Windows to a higher level. As for Meego, I don't know what to expect from it. |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:32 PM
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hmm ..meego running on linux..meaning that we can customise it?? looo
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Jun 24 2011, 11:38 PM
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kenpachi oso love N9?
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Jun 24 2011, 11:49 PM
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Specs not important..as long ur comfortable wif ur fon..buy big screen n then complain battery drain fast..bla bla bla.. Haha
Added on June 24, 2011, 11:51 pmNo brand is perfect..just buy wat u like n not regret bout it.. Added on June 24, 2011, 11:55 pmWe're talkin bout N9 MeeGo r we? Not N9 WP7 rite? Windows just don't suit Nokia! Wait lor elop "ur fired".. Haha.. This post has been edited by azul78: Jun 24 2011, 11:55 PM |
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 24 2011, 11:49 PM) Specs not important..as long ur comfortable wif ur fon..buy big screen n then complain battery drain fast..bla bla bla.. Haha powerbank 5000mah always with me. Added on June 24, 2011, 11:51 pmNo brand is perfect..just buy wat u like n not regret bout it.. Added on June 24, 2011, 11:55 pmWe're talkin bout N9 MeeGo r we? Not N9 WP7 rite? Windows just don't suit Nokia! Wait lor elop "ur fired".. Haha.. got got.N95 era. comparison... |
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Jun 24 2011, 11:58 PM
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Rumour is Nokia Board is going to make internal investigation regarding Elop's WP7 & Android device leak.
Can they just fire him & bring Anssi Vanjoki back? Elop may have balls of steel but Vanjoki have balls of platinium.He's got things done better than anyone in Nokia before. |
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Jun 25 2011, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 11:58 PM) Rumour is Nokia Board is going to make internal investigation regarding Elop's WP7 & Android device leak. bring anssi vanjoki back???lol.he is still there n he never be CEO of nokia.u mean OPK?Can they just fire him & bring Anssi Vanjoki back? Elop may have balls of steel but Vanjoki have balls of platinium.He's got things done better than anyone in Nokia before. |
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Jun 25 2011, 12:23 AM
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OPK is useless oldfag.He stuck his neck for Symbian & partly at fault the Nokia's decline.
Vanjoki was planned to promoted as CEO but after US threatened to remove Jorma Ollila as Nokia Chairman,he p*ssied out & hired Elop. Lame chairman.He should grow a pair of balls. |
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Jun 25 2011, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 25 2011, 12:23 AM) OPK is useless oldfag.He stuck his neck for Symbian & partly at fault the Nokia's decline. US threatened??what???could u tell me the detail?what relationship vf US?Vanjoki was planned to promoted as CEO but after US threatened to remove Jorma Ollila as Nokia Chairman,he p*ssied out & hired Elop. Lame chairman.He should grow a pair of balls. |
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Jun 25 2011, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 12:27 AM) US threatened??what???could u tell me the detail?what relationship vf US? US investors in Nokia...Missed words there...This is a old news - http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-ceo-shuffle...paper-26128530/ This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 25 2011, 01:00 AM |
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Jun 25 2011, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 25 2011, 12:57 AM) US investors in Nokia...Missed words there... US investor putting the pressure on nokia.This is a old news - http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-ceo-shuffle...paper-26128530/ |
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Jun 25 2011, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 04:29 AM) US investor putting the pressure on nokia. You want good reading material read this - http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/bran...e-stand-up.htmlYes,this blog contains walls of text but usually contains facts & rather accurate predictions. BTW Tomi T Ahonen was Nokia Executive previously. |
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Jun 25 2011, 09:59 AM
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It was not Nokia that was headed to trouble in February. It was you, Stephen Elop, and only you, with your delusions and utterly false memo, who created unnecessary panic inside Nokia. You fired the wrong people, you destroyed the wrong platforms, you sold the wrong assets, and you set the whole of Nokia on fire.
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Jun 25 2011, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 25 2011, 09:59 AM) It was not Nokia that was headed to trouble in February. It was you, Stephen Elop, and only you, with your delusions and utterly false memo, who created unnecessary panic inside Nokia. You fired the wrong people, you destroyed the wrong platforms, you sold the wrong assets, and you set the whole of Nokia on fire. This could be the biggest mistake.QT went to Digia (Nokia still investing in this) Symbian went to Accenture MeeGo DOA Sure hope Elop's bet pays off..There's already growing unhappiness in Finland with what going on with Nokia. |
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Jun 25 2011, 10:33 AM
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who cares if MeeGo is doomed..i'm still gettin 1..i bet it will be out of stock..haha..not MeeGo but elop will be doomed!!
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Jun 25 2011, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 25 2011, 10:33 AM) who cares if MeeGo is doomed..i'm still gettin 1..i bet it will be out of stock..haha..not MeeGo but elop will be doomed!! |
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Jun 25 2011, 10:42 AM
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Depending on the price I think this device will be worthy buy.
Decent spec(not great),almost all the functions & apps covered there will be some support from the Maemo/MeeGo community. Compared to this when N900 was launched it didn't even have the USSD dialing support or root access! I honestly think that N9 is a good device for both consumer & enthusiast.If only N950 planned to be sold.... |
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Jun 25 2011, 10:46 AM
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American are try to destroy the economy of Europe... they are on track now..
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Jun 25 2011, 10:56 AM
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No need to do that.Europeans are doing that by themselves.
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Jun 25 2011, 10:58 AM
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rite..a decent specs..not as interesting as android but cool ui for those who need a decent phone.."MS is EVIL and every company they touch will go down eventually." (just quoted somewhere)..so its de end..a sad day for nokia fans when M$ do acquires nokia..hmm (left me unspoken of nokia's future)
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Jun 25 2011, 11:44 AM
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Intel will carry on with Meego. Why keep saying Meego doom?
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Jun 25 2011, 12:02 PM
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Meego for smartphone segment losing support by Nokia is quite a huge thing putting into fact that Nokia is not going to sell off their portion of the Meego project to other players.
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 25 2011, 11:44 AM) Intel will carry on with Meego. Why keep saying Meego doom? It's not doomed but it'll be very hard to recover at least for the handset version.In order for the OS to become successful financially you need a good manufacturer support & carrier support.Now that the manufacturer support is gone the carriers won't show much enthusiasm on this platform.LG has shown interest in developing MeeGo phone but their brand is not strong enough to convince carriers. Part of the reason WP7 sale is very bad in US is because of the carriers sort of boycotting WP7.Inconsistent decision by Microsoft and the upcoming Skype integration in WP7 is just pouring fuel fire. Carriers hate Skype or any other internet voice/message application for simple reason : It'll hit hard their main 2 cashcow which are voice calls & sms. At least in MeeGo it's perfectly possible to customize the OS according to carriers will.In WP7 Microsoft simply refuse carriers or manufacturers to modify the OS much. Sometimes I wonder why Elop dead set on adopting WP7 as Nokia's primary platform.Initially Microsoft had to threated some manufacturer with lawsuit in order for them to release WP7 devices because major Windows Mobile manufacturers didn't have much confidence with the platform.Now the devices are released & the deal is done you can see some manufacturers like HTC is moving away to concentrate on Android alone. Future of the MeeGo might be lying on the v1.3 release. |
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Jun 25 2011, 01:08 PM
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like i said meego alone aint strong enuf without nokia..andrekua: one moment ur a wp7..now ur a meego..haha
Added on June 25, 2011, 1:18 pmif ur givin some1 ur knowledge, u won't giv all ur knowledge (lwn tokey nti)..who control nokia? Who control elop? Who control m$? Americans as in fruit..haha Added on June 25, 2011, 1:20 pmWp7 won't modify metro ui!! Nuf said.. This post has been edited by azul78: Jun 25 2011, 01:20 PM |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 25 2011, 11:44 AM) Intel will carry on with Meego. Why keep saying Meego doom? i believe intel>nokia nokia promises,words are all like fart. |
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Jun 25 2011, 02:07 PM
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Microsoft should really change WP7's homescreen which looks like it was designed by a lazy student. Put a WP7 device next to an iPhone, an Android and MeeGo and the homescreen looks really dull.
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Jun 25 2011, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 25 2011, 02:07 PM) Microsoft should really change WP7's homescreen which looks like it was designed by a lazy student. Put a WP7 device next to an iPhone, an Android and MeeGo and the homescreen looks really dull. the UI is |
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Jun 25 2011, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 02:04 PM) i believe intel>nokia nokia promises,words are all like fart. QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 25 2011, 02:07 PM) Microsoft should really change WP7's homescreen which looks like it was designed by a lazy student. Put a WP7 device next to an iPhone, an Android and MeeGo and the homescreen looks really dull. You guys remember brick game? Everytime I see WP7 homescreen I remember it. http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3ANOK Stock market sure loves N9.... This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 25 2011, 02:24 PM |
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Jun 25 2011, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 25 2011, 02:16 PM) But it's a fact that Intel is still hardware oriented company. nokia isn't software oriented company also.You guys remember brick game? Everytime I see WP7 homescreen I remember it. |
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Jun 25 2011, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 02:19 PM) nokia isn't software oriented company also. Nokia makes phone with great hardware, Aluminium  |
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 25 2011, 01:08 PM) like i said meego alone aint strong enuf without nokia..andrekua: one moment ur a wp7..now ur a meego..haha I don't root for anything. Just for the sake of comparing them. I never used Maemo though.Added on June 25, 2011, 1:18 pmif ur givin some1 ur knowledge, u won't giv all ur knowledge (lwn tokey nti)..who control nokia? Who control elop? Who control m$? Americans as in fruit..haha Added on June 25, 2011, 1:20 pmWp7 won't modify metro ui!! Nuf said.. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 25 2011, 10:42 AM) Depending on the price I think this device will be worthy buy. Oh mai, don't bring it up again. Its like rubbing salt onto open wound Decent spec(not great),almost all the functions & apps covered there will be some support from the Maemo/MeeGo community. Compared to this when N900 was launched it didn't even have the USSD dialing support or root access! I honestly think that N9 is a good device for both consumer & enthusiast.If only N950 planned to be sold.... QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 25 2011, 02:07 PM) Microsoft should really change WP7's homescreen which looks like it was designed by a lazy student. Put a WP7 device next to an iPhone, an Android and MeeGo and the homescreen looks really dull. Well, TBH, I find it quite attractive. Its refreshing, its simple yet gets the job done, its buttery smooth, and ingeniously designed!p/s: Thats before Meego 1.2 Harmattan was launched QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 25 2011, 04:05 PM) Nokia makes phone with great hardware, Aluminium +1 The industrial design of Nokia is really godlike. Coupled with badass camera (Implying EDOF never exists...), tough as talk build quality and great cellular reception, these were seriously Nokia's strength. Now, if only they didn't skimp on the innards |
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Jun 25 2011, 05:16 PM
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N9 battery not user-replacable right?
Knowing how much N900 users like to experiment with their device, if we do the same and face hang issues, we will be having a hard time to fix it. Like on N900, we can remove the battery as a last resort when it comes to a complete standstill. |
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Jun 25 2011, 06:29 PM
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the thickest part is 12.1mm n the slimmest part is 7.6mm?
if arc is the second slimmest smartphone(it judged by thinnest part 8.7mm),then N9 already break the record?lol. |
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Jun 25 2011, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 06:29 PM) the thickest part is 12.1mm n the slimmest part is 7.6mm? Like this also can? if arc is the second slimmest smartphone(it judged by thinnest part 8.7mm),then N9 already break the record?lol. Nokia not bad wor. Good hardware. World record. |
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Jun 25 2011, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 25 2011, 07:14 PM) Like this also can? but nokia official announcement is 12.1mm unlike the SE.arc 8.7mm....only the thinnest part la.lol. Nokia not bad wor. Good hardware. World record. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 25 2011, 07:21 PM |
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Jun 25 2011, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 08:19 PM) but nokia official announcement is 12.1mm unlike the SE.arc 8.7mm....only the thinnest part la.lol. Well, Nokia is honest bout their product and Elop is honest with the burning platform, unlike fruit company and Sony This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Jun 25 2011, 07:40 PM |
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Jun 25 2011, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 25 2011, 07:34 PM) Well, Nokia is honest bout their product and Elop is honest with the burning platform, unlike fruit company and Sony i do agree sgs2 8.49mm but the arc i simply dun agree.i hands on so many time n the feel is just like 10mm(which is most the part is 10mm).it doesnt feel like 8.7mm. |
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Jun 25 2011, 07:41 PM
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And they made alot of money just by being dishonest ;p
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Jun 25 2011, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 25 2011, 07:41 PM) And they made alot of money just by being dishonest ;p SE make a lot of money?losing money.lol. |
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relese date in m'sia?
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Jun 25 2011, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(mrfarhatadib89 @ Jun 25 2011, 09:08 PM) relese date in m'sia? september. |
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u know u want 1..haha
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Jun 25 2011, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 10:09 PM) september. Nah, could be october or november |
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 25 2011, 09:26 PM) Nah, could be october or november Elop said announce--->ship.no more 6 months. u believe him ma? This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 25 2011, 09:33 PM |
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Jun 25 2011, 09:41 PM
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how can ur lovely N9 slimmest leh? both the SGS and SGSII number are also base on the thickest part of the body...
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Jun 25 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 25 2011, 09:41 PM) how can ur lovely N9 slimmest leh? both the SGS and SGSII number are also base on the thickest part of the body... i know.but the SE...u refer to my statement above.i agree sgs2 is 8.49mm but the SE ar...lol.Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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Guys, need help fr symbian guru out here! I can't seem 2 install any jar files on my nokia s60 nseries..i've hack my fon n mayb i've del some files! Any help?? Tq.
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Jun 25 2011, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(azul78 @ Jun 25 2011, 10:52 PM) Guys, need help fr symbian guru out here! I can't seem 2 install any jar files on my nokia s60 nseries..i've hack my fon n mayb i've del some files! Any help?? Tq. this is meego,n9 thread. |
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Jun 25 2011, 11:45 PM
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Extra info regarding N9's hardware & software
http://shootspeak.com/2011/06/24/nokia-n9-...idbits-updates/ |
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Jun 25 2011, 11:56 PM
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look at china site comparing android open source vs meego open source.they claim that android isn't fully open source coz just support java..is it true?meego/maemo5 is real open source.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 11:56 PM) look at china site comparing android open source vs meego open source.they claim that android isn't fully open source coz just support java..is it true?meego/maemo5 is real open source. Google do have issues with Linux Foundation but not because of the java support.1st issue is the Android kernel.Google enhanced the linux kernel with some extra features but Linux Foundation is yet to accept it. 2nd issue is the Android 3.0/3.1 source code.As open source software Google should release the entire source code but yet to release it. In Maemo's case the core OS itself is open source but some application(app manager,media player) & some function(such as power management & telephony stack) is proprietary Nokia stuff. In MeeGo Intel is trying to make almost everything open source.That's why if you tried initial MeeGo release you won't be able to play much of the videos (due the format licensing). |
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n9 price around 2k kind of exp~
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Jun 26 2011, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 25 2011, 02:07 PM) Microsoft should really change WP7's homescreen which looks like it was designed by a lazy student. Put a WP7 device next to an iPhone, an Android and MeeGo and the homescreen looks really dull. iPhone? Homescreen? |
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Jun 26 2011, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 26 2011, 02:01 AM) iPhone? Homescreen? lol.iphone got homescreen ar.the apps are all homescreen. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 25 2011, 11:45 PM) Extra info regarding N9's hardware & software 8. N9 can play flash videos using its media player. But not within the web browse due to the lack of Adobe Flash plugin. (N9 can also play other common video formats. Even 720p MKV files out of the box)http://shootspeak.com/2011/06/24/nokia-n9-...idbits-updates/ Really arh? ______________________________________________________________ 19. Swipe action is disabled in games if the game is programmed to disable it while playing. This can be seen starting at 2:50 into this video. So you don’t have to worry about accidently swiping the game off the screen during gameplay. ______________________________________________________________ 23. Another tidbit on the camera side of the N9. Camera architecture on the N9 is OPEN. Meaning that 3rd party camera apps and RAW access is possible later on. FCAM ______________________________________________________________ There’s digital zoom up to four times and the camera focus range is from 10 cm to infinity. Not as good as N900 5cm minimum focus. High end accesories built to match with N9. N9 is the high-end device for Nokia, for Nokia. Nokia Play 360 Nokia Wireless Music Receiver MD-310 This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 26 2011, 10:42 AM |
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Jun 26 2011, 11:03 AM
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Nokia's Stephen Elop is still over MeeGo, even if the N9 is a hit
An awful lot has been happening in Nokialand over the past week. A few days ago, we spent our first real quality moments with the much discussed N9, and we were pretty blown away by the MeeGo smartphone. Fast forward a mere two days, and we catch wind of a pretty suspicious looking leak of "Sea Ray," the company's first Windows Phone handset where else but sitting firmly in the hand of CEO Stephen Elop. Just in case that brand of corporate subtlety didn't quite drive the point home, the executive gave an interview with Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat this week, confirming the nearly universal suspicion that it will abandon the Linux-based OS. Elop told the paper that, even if the N9 proves a massive hit, Nokia is going to turn its attention to other, more Windows Mobiley things. Source Engadget Can someone please get into their senses and fire Elop. He's killing Nokia slowly for Microsoft. Isn't that obvious enough?! |
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Jun 26 2011, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 26 2011, 02:01 AM) iPhone? Homescreen? Oh you know what I mean. The screen you go to when the Home button is pressed. |
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Seems like n9 will not happening until the device officially release.
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 26 2011, 11:03 AM) Nokia's Stephen Elop is still over MeeGo, even if the N9 is a hit spy~An awful lot has been happening in Nokialand over the past week. A few days ago, we spent our first real quality moments with the much discussed N9, and we were pretty blown away by the MeeGo smartphone. Fast forward a mere two days, and we catch wind of a pretty suspicious looking leak of "Sea Ray," the company's first Windows Phone handset where else but sitting firmly in the hand of CEO Stephen Elop. Just in case that brand of corporate subtlety didn't quite drive the point home, the executive gave an interview with Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat this week, confirming the nearly universal suspicion that it will abandon the Linux-based OS. Elop told the paper that, even if the N9 proves a massive hit, Nokia is going to turn its attention to other, more Windows Mobiley things. Source Engadget Can someone please get into their senses and fire Elop. He's killing Nokia slowly for Microsoft. Isn't that obvious enough?! |
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Jun 26 2011, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Jun 26 2011, 01:00 PM) spy~  |
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Jun 26 2011, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 26 2011, 12:03 PM) Nokia's Stephen Elop is still over MeeGo, even if the N9 is a hit conspiracy man. conspiracy...An awful lot has been happening in Nokialand over the past week. A few days ago, we spent our first real quality moments with the much discussed N9, and we were pretty blown away by the MeeGo smartphone. Fast forward a mere two days, and we catch wind of a pretty suspicious looking leak of "Sea Ray," the company's first Windows Phone handset where else but sitting firmly in the hand of CEO Stephen Elop. Just in case that brand of corporate subtlety didn't quite drive the point home, the executive gave an interview with Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat this week, confirming the nearly universal suspicion that it will abandon the Linux-based OS. Elop told the paper that, even if the N9 proves a massive hit, Nokia is going to turn its attention to other, more Windows Mobiley things. Source Engadget Can someone please get into their senses and fire Elop. He's killing Nokia slowly for Microsoft. Isn't that obvious enough?! |
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Jun 26 2011, 02:05 PM
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even N9 sales more than 100million,the bast*rd elop still choose wp7 n abandon meego.
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Jun 26 2011, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 02:05 PM) even N9 sales more than 100million,the bast*rd elop still choose wp7 n abandon meego. If Nokia managed to sell even 1 million N9 think Elop will be fired.But whatever it is I think it's late to change Elop's plan.The deal with Microsoft is done & Symbian phone sale already suffered heavy beating after the February 11 announcement. It'll cost a lot for Nokia to cancel the deal Microsoft & restart the MeeGo project now that a number of people working on their software side been fired or resigned. |
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Jun 26 2011, 02:30 PM
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I really don't get Elop. I really hope he's just saying all this to pacify Microsoft, but is really developing other cool stuff in the background.
It makes no sense to just invest in WP7 the OS with the lowest market share after WebOS. It's either Elop and Nokia are getting a lot of cash for the Microsoft deal or Elop's just a Microsoft fanboi. Either case Nokia's days at the top are numbered. WP7 is even harder to differentiate and customize than Android, so I don't expect many people to switch. |
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Jun 26 2011, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 02:18 PM) If Nokia managed to sell even 1 million N9 think Elop will be fired. actually WP7 need so many research and throw in so many resource?as i know,wp7 need hardware specified by microsoft,just dump in the hardware as M$ requested n install wp7.done.start selling in the market.other manufacturers are doing the same thing.R&D budget in meego still on going while continue the wp7 project.just simple n easy.But whatever it is I think it's late to change Elop's plan.The deal with Microsoft is done & Symbian phone sale already suffered heavy beating after the February 11 announcement. It'll cost a lot for Nokia to cancel the deal Microsoft & restart the MeeGo project now that a number of people working on their software side been fired or resigned. QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 26 2011, 02:30 PM) I really don't get Elop. I really hope he's just saying all this to pacify Microsoft, but is really developing other cool stuff in the background. if u look at china site or even engadget(used to be nokia hater),there are cursing elop 99.It makes no sense to just invest in WP7 the OS with the lowest market share after WebOS. It's either Elop and Nokia are getting a lot of cash for the Microsoft deal or Elop's just a Microsoft fanboi. Either case Nokia's days at the top are numbered. WP7 is even harder to differentiate and customize than Android, so I don't expect many people to switch. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 26 2011, 02:50 PM |
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Jun 26 2011, 03:30 PM
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Predicting N9 sales already? Predicting Elop's jump to death?
Meego still have a long way to go. If you have a final product today, you can say it will definitely be hot. Few months down the road, I really wonder though what their reception will be as N9 will be compared directly with next gen iPhone and probably Android 2.4 devices. |
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Jun 26 2011, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 26 2011, 03:30 PM) Predicting N9 sales already? Predicting Elop's jump to death? not predicting the sales,assuming the elop's respond even meego sales high.Meego still have a long way to go. If you have a final product today, you can say it will definitely be hot. Few months down the road, I really wonder though what their reception will be as N9 will be compared directly with next gen iPhone and probably Android 2.4 devices. i do agree,typical nokia style,N8 wait for more than half year.lol. |
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Jun 26 2011, 04:29 PM
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Jun 26 2011, 05:08 PM
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Bet your fortune with your passion for Nokia. If Nokia managed to turn it around, you will be filthy rich.
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Jun 26 2011, 05:23 PM
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I forsee another downhill slope wor..
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Jun 26 2011, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 26 2011, 05:23 PM) I forsee another downhill slope wor.. Elop going against Meego even if it's a success will definitely cause a downhill slope again. |
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Jun 26 2011, 05:37 PM
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dump symbian,abandon meego=nokia funeral.
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Jun 26 2011, 05:51 PM
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Instead of going with WP7 Elop/Nokia should have attempted to buy Palm/webOS before HP bought them.
It's proven to be excellent OS with good developers support compared to WP7. |
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Jun 26 2011, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 05:51 PM) Instead of going with WP7 Elop/Nokia should have attempted to buy Palm/webOS before HP bought them. webOS...i got no idea bout it.but WP7 ui is totally ugly.it will never success unless customize the ui.It's proven to be excellent OS with good developers support compared to WP7. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 25 2011, 11:06 PM) this is meego,n9 thread. Haha..just asking! Sori wrong thread lor.. nobody ere except u guys..kinda share info.. |
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Jun 26 2011, 08:59 PM
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so u guys choose what colour?
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Jun 26 2011, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 08:59 PM) so u guys choose what colour? Black..if wan other color just buy 2nd skin (mayb blue)..not red!! |
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Jun 26 2011, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 08:59 PM) so u guys choose what colour? As usual black |
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Jun 26 2011, 09:09 PM
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u know u wan 1!!
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Jun 26 2011, 09:12 PM
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N9 7.1MP Photo Sample I'm not camera pro but this looks decent. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 26 2011, 09:13 PM |
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Jun 26 2011, 09:26 PM
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pink for me.hehe.duno will get it free not.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 09:12 PM)
N9 7.1MP Photo Sample I'm not camera pro but this looks decent. I wonder hows the quality in low light condition. |
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Jun 26 2011, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 09:26 PM) pink for me.hehe.duno will get it free not. Better black lor..if wanna change just buy red softcover..no turning back..haha |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 05:54 PM) webOS...i got no idea bout it.but WP7 ui is totally ugly.it will never success unless customize the ui. Not sure if home screen really matter much. iOS don't have home screen. Meego won't have one as well. Symbian has one and it was pretty much useless. |
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Jun 26 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 26 2011, 09:50 PM) Not sure if home screen really matter much. iOS don't have home screen. Meego won't have one as well. Symbian has one and it was pretty much useless. No matter what the fault with iOS I admit that it has probably the easiest to use UI.Perhaps people really do like simplified UI.Judging from N9's UI reception they certainly do.I wonder how will the storage structure will be in N9.Is the 16GB or 64GB used for install OS,Application & to save any other users stuff? Or there will be separate storage memory for the OS & application/users stuff in 16/64GB memory like N900... |
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Jun 26 2011, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 26 2011, 09:50 PM) Not sure if home screen really matter much. iOS don't have home screen. Meego won't have one as well. Symbian has one and it was pretty much useless. im pointing the ui.not homescreen. |
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Jun 26 2011, 10:51 PM
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I'm getting pink by year end..lol ..got free one meh..btw ..meego is under linux just like android..thats mean we can customize??
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 26 2011, 10:51 PM) I'm getting pink by year end..lol ..got free one meh..btw ..meego is under linux just like android..thats mean we can customize?? It's customizable but Nokia announced that the UI is closed sourced.So need to check which parts are off limit.For sure theming,modifying kernel,modifying core OS & other customizing is possible. |
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Jun 26 2011, 10:56 PM
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Well, WP7 is all about tiles and horizontal swipes that helps you navigates around. Its the same throughout the system.
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Jun 26 2011, 11:01 PM
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I wonder if Nokia will prove flashing tools for N9 like all the Maemo devices.God knows I love that tool...
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Jun 26 2011, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(kenpachi @ Jun 26 2011, 10:51 PM) I'm getting pink by year end..lol ..got free one meh..btw ..meego is under linux just like android..thats mean we can customize?? im getting pink as well.QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 10:55 PM) It's customizable but Nokia announced that the UI is closed sourced.So need to check which parts are off limit. closed source???really?For sure theming,modifying kernel,modifying core OS & other customizing is possible. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 11:01 PM) I wonder if Nokia will prove flashing tools for N9 like all the Maemo devices.God knows I love that tool... i oso want. |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 05:54 PM) webOS...i got no idea bout it.but WP7 ui is totally ugly.it will never success unless customize the ui. agree~ and I think ms want to make windows 8 looks like that also |
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 11:29 PM) closed source???really? http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3599QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Jun 26 2011, 11:40 PM) agree~ and I think ms want to make windows 8 looks like that also Uuhh...Don't remind me that... |
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Jun 26 2011, 11:44 PM
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well I just hold my money from SGS 2 from this baby and now elop guy say this will be last meego from nokia....
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Jun 26 2011, 11:44 PM) well I just hold my money from SGS 2 from this baby and now elop guy say this will be last meego from nokia.... not last |
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Elop intention is very clear.. clean the entire Nokia software part.. and build M$ own platform from there... M$ dowan to rely on other party like HTC/SAMSUNG etc for their Mobile OS....
there u go Nokia.. byebye Nokia.... |
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 26 2011, 09:50 PM) Not sure if home screen really matter much. iOS don't have home screen. Meego won't have one as well. Symbian has one and it was pretty much useless. Depends, there're many types of users; The best is to provide than not to provide with options for users to choose.This version of MeeGo Harmattan doesn't have one, but the original MeeGo I think it have. QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 10:20 PM) No matter what the fault with iOS I admit that it has probably the easiest to use UI.Perhaps people really do like simplified UI.Judging from N9's UI reception they certainly do. Sure, simplified is good; It makes it easy for anyone to pick-up and use. But it won't satisfy every user, eventually some users are going to grow out and want more; If the OS has no options or room for more features, functionalities, customization, eventually people will move away and move on, just like how some people start to move away from iOS as they progress and want more. I wonder how will the storage structure will be in N9.Is the 16GB or 64GB used for install OS,Application & to save any other users stuff? Or there will be separate storage memory for the OS & application/users stuff in 16/64GB memory like N900... iOS create a mindset for people that they "only" need a simple OS and keep them inside the box or "tempurung"; As many common people/user, they will be sticking to it and not willing to explore others, which seems more complicated; Whereas, those that pickups fast and explore and want something more, will eventually can't resist and move forward. Some people may never want/need anything more than a simple OS, just like some people can make do with a simple netbook with Windows 7 Starter Edition, while there're those that eventually found out they need something more. Back when iPhone is still new, not much smartphone users, and they really want to pickup something that is very easy to use and so on. Now, as many people already familiar with smartphones and know what is this or that, some start to explore more, wants more, starting to move forward, plus the advancement in technologies and internet or social network. People start to look for something more advance, hoping their smartphone can do something more. Lastly, as I mentioned before; just like a software, a very powerful software like say "Photoshop" can be very easy to use and pickup by beginner, YET, it can be extremely powerful at the hands of a advance user. So, it's not about making/limiting the OS to 1 criteria (e.g. simple), it's about making the software flexible, powerful, yet simple for anyone to pickup and use, and not forgetting CHOICES/OPTIONS. |
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Jun 27 2011, 12:17 AM
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^Later merge & renamed as Microkia?
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 27 2011, 12:17 AM) ^Later merge & renamed as Microkia? A new emergence from Sony and Ericson Sounds so kiasu... |
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Jun 27 2011, 12:22 AM
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dump symbian, abandoning meego n ignore qt platform...without these all things will eventually make nokia like a body without soul.
since qt platform wont be use in the wp7...so qt future can be predicted easily... This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 27 2011, 12:22 AM |
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Jun 27 2011, 12:26 AM
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basically.. u dont really see Nokia anymore now... ppl who know Nokia almost = know Symbian....
the MeeGo have come way too late .... |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 27 2011, 12:26 AM) basically.. u dont really see Nokia anymore now... ppl who know Nokia almost = know Symbian.... yesteryear product like the N8 again?lol.N8 should be selling at 09 and N9 should be sell at 10.the MeeGo have come way too late .... |
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Jun 27 2011, 08:51 AM
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Jun 27 2011, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 26 2011, 09:12 PM)
N9 7.1MP Photo Sample I'm not camera pro but this looks decent. QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 26 2011, 09:26 PM) pink for me.hehe.duno will get it free not. >.<Added on June 27, 2011, 10:39 amSuperEvilAlien, did you apply for N950 dev kit? Did you try porting any apps over? This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 27 2011, 10:39 AM |
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Jun 27 2011, 11:07 AM
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cannot pink?i love pink.
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Jun 27 2011, 11:41 AM
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Surprisingly, i like the blue lol...
but when i tell my intention i would like to get this phone to my friend, first impression.. wHAT?? thatT dumb Phone?? Me: it's not symbian, it's meebo friend: wtf is that? Another thing is that why no other maker are willing to invest on meebo, i think it's a very viable OS after all |
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Jun 27 2011, 11:53 AM
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even the typical nokia hater-engadget,gizmodo etc etc very impressed to N9.lol.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 27 2011, 11:41 AM) Surprisingly, i like the blue lol... it's not meebo, it's meego.... meebo is that web based IM clientbut when i tell my intention i would like to get this phone to my friend, first impression.. wHAT?? thatT dumb Phone?? Me: it's not symbian, it's meebo friend: wtf is that? Another thing is that why no other maker are willing to invest on meebo, i think it's a very viable OS after all |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 27 2011, 09:20 AM) Compared to 18mpx from DSLR, this is like so grainy when I zoom in. Nah...My programming skill isn't that skillful.>.< Added on June 27, 2011, 10:39 amSuperEvilAlien, did you apply for N950 dev kit? Did you try porting any apps over? Anyway I think Nokia will choose on how useful your application is before giving away the N950. Also I honestly hope that the N950 goes to the developers that are really willing to make decent application for MeeGo.More quality apps for MeeGo means more end users can use this device. Anyway if you want to develop application it's perfectly possible to use N9 also.There is developers mode,root access etc2 just like N950.Only issue is N9 lacks that "sexy" physical keyboard... QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 27 2011, 11:53 AM) even the typical nokia hater-engadget,gizmodo etc etc very impressed to N9.lol. Too bad it's not going to change Elop's mind.Added on June 27, 2011, 1:57 pm Seems like the UI will be open sourced after all.Nokia might add ability to add widget & other stuff like Maemo 5. This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 27 2011, 01:57 PM |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 27 2011, 12:14 PM) Nah...My programming skill isn't that skillful. have a try n maybe u will get it free.lol.Anyway I think Nokia will choose on how useful your application is before giving away the N950. Also I honestly hope that the N950 goes to the developers that are really willing to make decent application for MeeGo.More quality apps for MeeGo means more end users can use this device. Anyway if you want to develop application it's perfectly possible to use N9 also.There is developers mode,root access etc2 just like N950.Only issue is N9 lacks that "sexy" physical keyboard... Too bad it's not going to change Elop's mind. Added on June 27, 2011, 1:57 pm Seems like the UI will be open sourced after all.Nokia might add ability to add widget & other stuff like Maemo 5. Elop is cursed.even Engadget wonder y nokia allow elop to give up meego. |
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 27 2011, 12:14 PM) Nah...My programming skill isn't that skillful. I was thinking if it's possible to port FCAM over? But I do not have the slightest idea on how I should do that. And I know it's the work of others but they did mentioned on porting open-source apps over. Do you have the latest Qt SDK program in your comp? I have just updated it but have not checked it out.Anyway I think Nokia will choose on how useful your application is before giving away the N950. Also I honestly hope that the N950 goes to the developers that are really willing to make decent application for MeeGo.More quality apps for MeeGo means more end users can use this device. Anyway if you want to develop application it's perfectly possible to use N9 also.There is developers mode,root access etc2 just like N950.Only issue is N9 lacks that "sexy" physical keyboard... Too bad it's not going to change Elop's mind. Added on June 27, 2011, 1:57 pm Seems like the UI will be open sourced after all.Nokia might add ability to add widget & other stuff like Maemo 5. Added on June 27, 2011, 2:36 pmBtw, the deadline is tomorrow. This post has been edited by hengguowei: Jun 27 2011, 02:36 PM |
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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 27 2011, 02:36 PM) I was thinking if it's possible to port FCAM over? But I do not have the slightest idea on how I should do that. And I know it's the work of others but they did mentioned on porting open-source apps over. Do you have the latest Qt SDK program in your comp? I have just updated it but have not checked it out. impossible to convert the whole fcam application source code to Qt in a day lar... Added on June 27, 2011, 2:36 pmBtw, the deadline is tomorrow. |
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Jun 27 2011, 04:56 PM) impossible to convert the whole fcam application source code to Qt in a day lar... Mission impossible. I know cannot larh. That's why I said the dateline is tomorrow. It's not like I can do it anyway even if you give me an entire month. Even if it means I can't get N950, I would still like to explore a little into this. |
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get n9 Then.my fren said eat rice without dishes save money to buy n9 wo.Haha.
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Jun 27 2011, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 27 2011, 05:37 PM) slowpoke. |
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Jun 27 2011, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 27 2011, 06:37 PM) snailpoke |
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Jun 27 2011, 08:29 PM
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he is not abandoning meego but wont use meego as main platform/os.wp7 will be the main 1
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Jun 27 2011, 09:24 PM
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/a-load-of-nokia-n...he-n8-to-shame/
N8 eat shit wor... I really hope its really easier to achieve better result than N8 lor. |
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Jun 27 2011, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jun 27 2011, 09:24 PM) http://blog.gsmarena.com/a-load-of-nokia-n...he-n8-to-shame/ what?what eat shit???N8 arm11 is the best of the world!!N8 eat shit wor... I really hope its really easier to achieve better result than N8 lor. |
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Jun 27 2011, 09:54 PM
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What the f....
Seems like N950 don't have access to Ovi Store. |
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Jun 27 2011, 10:32 PM
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Ovi Store?u need that?lol.run android apps!
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Jun 27 2011, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 27 2011, 09:54 PM) What the f.... I thought the phrase Ovi will be phase out bit by bit. Everything will be named as Nokia... eg, Nokia Maps or Nokia Store? Right?Seems like N950 don't have access to Ovi Store. I read somewhere. Furthermore with Alien Dalvik, we don't need to look back at Harmattan specific apps ady since there's a vast amount of Android apps out there but wonder how good is the compatibility and to what extent does it allow access to major hardware like camera, or other stuff. Of course if there's Harmattan specific apps, it would be better. I can't wait.... |
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Jun 27 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jun 27 2011, 10:32 PM) Ovi Store?u need that?lol.run android apps! True also...Been a long time since downloaded any apps from OVI Store.I got all mine from maemo repos...But it's always good to have access to the official app store. Myriad haven't release the ipk - deb repackaging tool. QUOTE(hengguowei @ Jun 27 2011, 10:46 PM) I thought the phrase Ovi will be phase out bit by bit. Everything will be named as Nokia... eg, Nokia Maps or Nokia Store? Right? It's not like that.It seems like N950 will never have access to OVI Store.You have to download stuff from other repos.I read somewhere. Furthermore with Alien Dalvik, we don't need to look back at Harmattan specific apps ady since there's a vast amount of Android apps out there but wonder how good is the compatibility and to what extent does it allow access to major hardware like camera, or other stuff. Of course if there's Harmattan specific apps, it would be better. I can't wait.... |
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Jun 27 2011, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 27 2011, 10:59 PM) True also...Been a long time since downloaded any apps from OVI Store.I got all mine from maemo repos... Doesn't really matter. Seldom go to Ovi Store on N900 anyway. But it's always good to have access to the official app store. Myriad haven't release the ipk - deb repackaging tool. It's not like that.It seems like N950 will never have access to OVI Store.You have to download stuff from other repos. But as you said, it's better to have it. N950 is a dev device. Nokia knows that the users can workaround without Ovi Store easily. |
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Jun 27 2011, 11:03 PM
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Ovi soon gonna change the name to MicroKia or Elop Store..
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Jun 27 2011, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jun 27 2011, 11:03 PM) Ovi soon gonna change the name to MicroKia or Elop Store.. He can take it & shove it in his @$$ for all I care. Seriously if I have Nokia shares,I'll sell then right away to play safe. I know in case Nokia's WP7 because success the share will go up & shareholders will get mini windfall but that's doesn't look like happening anytime soon. |
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Jun 27 2011, 11:31 PM
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qt platform,liso./open source community support,developer who holding n950 n most importantly-android apps.Haha.who care the stupid elop.fatso.
Added on June 27, 2011, 11:32 pmtypo,its linux. This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 27 2011, 11:32 PM |
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Jun 28 2011, 05:16 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 24 2011, 02:16 PM) ^Actually that's a real surprise.When we started speculate the N9's spec in TMO most of the us guessed it'll come with 512MB RAM only given Nokia's track record which always ship devices with puny amount of RAM. yea, somehow Nokia devices have the minimal amount of RAM."web page closed, not enough memory" always in older symbian devices when loading some complex pages. |
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Jun 28 2011, 10:03 AM
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Dug up more info on stock MeeGo vs MeeGo Harmattan
* rpm vs deb (not just the format, but also the associated packaging "culture") * bash/coreutils vs busybox * sysvinit (<=1.2)/systemd(1.3+) vs upstart * kernel 2.6.37 vs 2.6.32 * gcc 4.5 vs 4.4 * ofono vs csd * connman vs icd2 * aegis et al rpm vs deb shouldn't be a big issue since you can always use community obs to produce deb or rpm package provided you have the source codes. I kinda hoped Nokia used newer kernel. Damn...Again with the closed source csd telephony stack... |
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Jun 28 2011, 11:01 AM
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ship as soon as possible.Evo 3D official announce yesterday n will ship on july...nokia ar nokia...aiks..
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Jun 28 2011, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 28 2011, 10:03 AM) Dug up more info on stock MeeGo vs MeeGo Harmattan Then Nitdroid need Ofono to make calls right? @.@* rpm vs deb (not just the format, but also the associated packaging "culture") * bash/coreutils vs busybox * sysvinit (<=1.2)/systemd(1.3+) vs upstart * kernel 2.6.37 vs 2.6.32 * gcc 4.5 vs 4.4 * ofono vs csd * connman vs icd2 * aegis et al rpm vs deb shouldn't be a big issue since you can always use community obs to produce deb or rpm package provided you have the source codes. I kinda hoped Nokia used newer kernel. Damn...Again with the closed source csd telephony stack... |
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