Anyone already sold their kidneys in conjunction with the rumored launch date? =)

This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Aug 22 2011, 09:33 AM

Actually it's not that simple.There are some "parts" from MeeGo used in MeeGo Harmattan.But the idea is to use this as transition OS for the proper MeeGo.

Hacking...True but we do put effort to make our device work like smartphone & at same time do things that other smartphone can't do.

Maybe I should clarify on the "running like desktop" part
As you know Maemo has poor developer support so there were few apps to be run in the device.So someone thought since Maemo was derived from debian why not just port the the desktop debian apps to Maemo?
The stopgap plan because too much fun that everyone keep porting more & more desktop apps for Maemo.
All regular Maemo nerd try to make their N900 as their mobile desktop.

That's why it really depends on what one person looking for in a phone.
As a smartphone, the initial purpose is a "mobile PC" integrated into a phone. When smartphone first introduce, people are excited with it, not because of the simplicity and stuffs, but because of what it can do.
Before Windows Mobile, there's Pocket PC, as the name itself is self-explanatory, "POCKET PC", but then it wasn't really close to a real PC. Then it changes to Windows Mobile 2002, but it's still not exactly near a real Windows OS. Back then, people are looking for something that can bring them closer to a real PC, which is what a smartphone should do.

With the launch of iPhone, I guess it really changes everything?
It introduce "simplicity", which in actual, it's more DUE TO many controls and restrictions; When you impose rules, controls, restrictions, it will make things become simple and easy to manage.
My definition of simplicity is different, it would mean provide or making something that is complicated, simple and easy to use without removing the features, etc.
Let's take camera example: Nowadays camera comes with many simple and easy to use features, presets (e.g. SCENE modes), "intelligent Auto", etc. But does they restrict you to use only the AUTO or presets? Yes, for phone camera and probably some low end camera models.
If we talk about softwares, those powerful image editing tools, video editing tools, etc, were never EASY to use, but they keep try to simplify it so that it's easy for beginner to pickup and use, they DON'T remove and restrict a user to only do this and that.
Hence, one reason why JAILBREAK term even exist.

So, it really depends on what one is looking for; There're no denying, smartphone OS, non-other than Apple, it still trying to achieve something close to a PC, else there's no need to make it better; People who get an Android tablet, will eventually want to have something that Windows can do, else later they will prefer a Windows Tablet.
E.g. Office programs, image editing tools, video editing tools, etc.
Those who won't want to carry a tablet, might prefer their smartphone able do that as well.

I would want a smartphone that can work as close to a real mobile PC as possible. It may not be able to replace a real computer/laptop completely, but it'll be good a have one instead of carrying a laptop everywhere you go when you need it; Ever since the N900, it's been able to do pretty much, just need to bear with the "weakness", but for those whose been using computers since long ago (386? 486?) and understanding the hardware limitation, etc. would likely to have more tolerance and cope with the situation.

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Added on August 22, 2011, 11:42 amhttp://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/21/ari-jaaksi-symbian-religion-biggest-concern-on-maemo-was-not-how-good-it-was-but-how-it-would-affect-symbian/

"It was not about getting Maemo – in particular the brilliant Maemo 5 out to the public to see how well Nokia can really do, the concern was how this great thing could harm, Symbian (Man, S60 5th compared to Maemo 5? What a load of dog-poo S60 5th was. 2009 folks. Maemo 5 was already brilliant in 2009)."
--- IMHO, still is even in 2011; there's not one which is on par from the way I see it (maybe WebOS?)

"During the Nokia World 2010 party, one Nokia staff was discussing how MeeGo was held back for Symbian^3, hence no MeeGo device announced. It was to let Symbian^3 shine. Focus had to be on the newer Symbian. No time to sort out MeeGo. That was pretty much just one Nokia voice but Ari here confirms that situation."

This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 22 2011, 11:42 AM

Problem with Nokia is it's always been Symbian,Symbian & Symbian.
Only when it became desperate Nokia turned to Maemo/MeeGo but even that plan was planned half bakedly.

It seems Maemo is like a completely different group; Looking at the OS phone functionality, if it's a Nokia, it should have the same functionality or even close as the Symbian, but seems it's not; So it's like a completely different group that don't interact, sort of like a 3rd party?

I think they're like "testing" with Maemo (like a backup), but dare not invest or put much effort on it. So, it's just left there, and release it half-bake.

Anyway, just hope the MeeGo is a complete bake or at least near complete bake. As long as it's stable and works well, the support isn't so much important anymore, just for minor bug fix and so on. Support is important if the OS is problematic and/or half-baked.

Testing? Sorry, deal closed... I would be surprised if its not MICROSOFT EXCLUSIVE.

Then again, I cant wait to try this dead zombie... all the praise... You know lar... Whats the big deal sort of thing. Try it... then only compare.

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Added on August 22, 2011, 6:19 pmIT'S BURNI~~~NG~~~~

This post has been edited by andrekua: Aug 22 2011, 06:19 PM

look at belle.its competitive,impressive,cool.

Praise? Not sure what kind of praise do you mean.

If a product is good, then it's good; there's no arguing, just like you can't argue 1GB of RAM is better than 512Mb of RAM of the same type. Well, unless, you prefer less for some reason?

As for the praise, there're the type of praise like "overdoing" which can be annoying, something like "my phone is better than yours" or saying the phone is the "best in the world" kind of thing without even knowing much about the phone. This is more obvious for iPhone, the exaggeration, the crazyness, etc. is way over. It's like a fashion thing, must have brand, and it gives the class status.
Even how great a phone is, it depends on the context, if someone is looking for a simple phone, with nice speaker and great camera, doesn't care about the specs, or it's other capabilities; Their definition of great phone will be different from others.

got test demo N9 at nokia center?? i watch china forum already got test demo can play at nokia center!!

belle is 18 months late if you ask me...

if belle came out same time like android froyo 2.2 then at least nokia could have shifted some attention away from android...

Belle have a lot of Maemo touches.... the boot up "...." is from Maemo?
The black theme with glowing blue is Maemo trademark?
There're some Maemo touches here and there....

The drop down from Top is so Android, lol

The more flexible homescreen, is just like what I mentioned before in Maemo forum; In order to accomodate for landscape and portrait mode, they can't link both (meaning, you have to re-organize for Portrait/Landscape, which mean they're kind of not the same anymore like last time.)

Overall, Belle gives much better experience, much more improved over previous Symbian, the virtual keboard are also way better to use.

Nokia announced the retail price of Nokia N9 and it cost EURO 799 for 64GB Black version..kind of expensive eh?

1) EURO
2) 64GB

kinda not surprise with that pricing

o.O where u got that?

Was hoping for 1.7k - 1.8k-ish price tag

Hmmm.. it seems I have to go for telco bundle plan then ._.
(Better be Celcom, the only Telco that has signal at my housing area =.=)

I'm holding a prototype model.. it belongs to Nokia.

maybe the 16GB price tag is around 1.7-1.8k?

release date?

It's stated to be 799 Australian Dollars, releasing in Aust in October. That's around RM2,500 but it didnt say whether it's the 16GB or 64 GB
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nokia-N9-La...er-220055.shtml

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Sep 4 2011, 04:37 PM