Thanks for sharing. But what do you mean local FM? How it works? They use it to repeat FM radio signals? What for?

Btw, I tried receiving digital TV channels in my relative hse staying in a high-rise condo (not HDB) around Bishan, Singapore. Can get both Singapore and Malaysia channels.
For those who don't know, Bishan is around the centre of Singapore.

some areas such as old condo dont have seperate fm and tv outlets, so starhub also repeat the singapore fm station signal, eg mediacorp radio. mainly used for hdb bomb shelter coverage and home hifi system.

as for digital tv channels, msia and sg both can receive normally, but analogue only singapore + tv1 (unless u lucky)
my area gets indonesian channels instead lol

This post has been edited by miloaisdino: Nov 19 2017, 09:06 PM

Oh wow... I do aware that Singapore HDB have bomb shelter, and I never thought that they repeat FM signals to bomb shelters too... Damnn.....

Plot twist: Why watch analogue TV when you can watch digital TV?

Where is your area? Analogue or digital? What are the channels can be received?

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Btw.
Last time I went Singapore, the reception for all Malaysian radio stations reception is bad at ground/road level; when driving around the roads in Singapore. But I wanna know, how's the reception now? lpsoldier007 mentioned that all Malaysian radio can be received clearly now.
87.8 MHz Sinar FM
90.1 MHz Hot FM
92.8 MHz Zayan
94.6 MHz Lite FM
95.4 MHz My FM
97.6 MHz Hitz.fm
98.4 MHz Melody FM (Local relay for Johor Bahru city)
99.1 MHz Mix FM
99.9 MHz 988
101.1 MHz Minnal FM
101.4 MHz Suria FM
101.9 MHz Johor FM
102.5 MHz Fly FM
102.9 MHz Traxx FM
103.3 MHz Melody FM (Local relay for Johor Bahru city) Most likely no reception in Singapore at all.
103.7 MHz THR Gegar FM
104.1 MHz Best FM (Regional radio station from Johor)
104.5 MHz Era FM
105.3 MHz One FM (Relay in JB) Most likely no reception in Singapore at all.
105.7 MHz Nasional FM
106.2 MHz IKIM.fm
107.5 MHz Bernama Radio

These Malaysian FM radio frequencies are for Johor Bahru/Singapore.
I was wondering which Malaysian FM radios stations can be received clearly in ground/road level inside Singapore, is it ALL or just some of them?
Sorry if I "briefly" go off-topic for a while, cuz I couldn't find any forum topics that discuss about this. I was hoping for someone who knows about this well, to share this information.

This post has been edited by joshhd: Nov 20 2017, 02:08 AM

Additional frequencies unlisted/Correction:
103.7 THR Raaga FM (THR Gegar on 2-6am, the same configuration for entire West Coast of Peninsular Malaysia)
104.9 Ai FM
106.7 Klasik FM

Although 98.4 MHz Melody FM is transmitted on Gunung Pulai mast, but the FM reception is attenuated in some parts especially south east of Gunung Pulai to protect 987FM, thats why there is 103.3 MHz to boost signal coverage.

103.3 MHz and 105.3 MHz does not transmit from Gunung Pulai to protect Gunung Ledang. (103.3 from Metropolis Tower, 105.3 from TM Sentosa mast to have some reception in Johor Bahru, there is no more frequency to allocate in Gunung Pulai)

The sound quality for 102.5 MHz is almost unlistenable/sound like dog's breakfast as it has heavy sound processing to improve perceived coverage (102.5MHz is transmitting Best FM on Bukit Tinggi, Johor, another example of poor frequency planning of Malaysian authorities).

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 20 2017, 03:21 PM

Update:
TV3 HD stop testing Dolby Digital Plus transmission. (You can't expect much as it is just a test)

MYTV do not even bother fixing the time of their system.

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 20 2017, 09:32 PM

Huh? What protect Power 987 (Singapore FM station)? Melody FM is on 98.4MHz but Power 987 is on 98.7MHz, what does it gonna do with that? Based on the frequency, I don't see any interference here.


102.5MHz is Fly FM, while Best FM is on 104.1MHz, isn't?
Are you saying that Bukit Tinggi transmit Best FM on 102.5MHz, hence causing interference on Fly FM for JB frequency, which is also 102.5MHz? Can't they re-align their transmitting antenna or reduce antenna transmitting power for 102.5MHz at Bukit Tinggi?

But regardless, are you able to confirm that is it ALL Malaysian FM radio stations can be received clearly inside Singapore ground level? If not, then why do you think is the reason?

TV3's Dolby surround sound is not legit surround sound also. They simply duplicate the left/right audio channels to surround left/right channels. In simple words, all speakers has the same sound, like duplicating audio channels.

Dolby Digital Plus indeed save bandwidth as good quality surround sound can be delivered at lower bitrates such as 192kbps.
But it may cause incompatibility issues to some digital TV boxes (those other than MYTV ones) or some IDTV with built-in DVB-T2 tuners to have no sound at all, and even not able to output as normal Dolby Digital bitstream via Digital Optical/Coaxial output, causing legacy AV system to have no sound at all. In this case, no choice but to switch back to Stereo HE-AAC v2 audio track.

People don't care with best audio. Get good video quality than analog signal is more important. That is the real Digital TV project.

This post has been edited by Anime in HD: Nov 20 2017, 11:57 PM

Minimum FM signal protection necessary between Gunung Pulai and Bukit Batok is 0.4MHz due to closeness and high power between both transmitters. The FM reception for some parts of Johor Bahru is actually quite poor for 98.4MHz since I know that the radiation pattern is modified to not send full power for Johor Bahru.

I don't really sure about radiation patterns about Best FM 102.5MHz on Bukit Tinggi but the radiation pattern might be designed to radiate towards Mersing. As for Fly FM Gunung Pulai, I sure that there are some heavy processing that makes the audio quality sounds so awful.

I don't sure about clear reception for Malaysian radio stations in Singapore as I never test there.

Just wondering, why is it not possible to relay the signal using the same frequency? E.g. Gunung Pulai and JB city (lower power) use the same 98.4MHz, instead of relay in different frequency in JB city?

I mean like, for example digital TV reception in Klang Valley area, Gunung Ulu Kali, Bukit Sungai Besi and KL tower currently transmits the same 666MHz. All 3 mux are same frequencies...
Why can't FM radio repeat the same frequency? Is it going to do with analogue and digital signal type?

The surround sound is just an enhancement for viewer's experience.
But it is pointless if broadcasters don't properly set the technical settings, or the content is not 5.1 surround.

But then, not every Malaysian homes have home theatre systems also... So having that 5.1 won't really benefit everyone.
It's just to show how digital TV technology are capable of.

Even Mediacorp TV stops sending DD+ audio (192kbps) in preference for HE-AAC audio for Channel 5 when they switch modulation mode from 64QAM to 16QAM.

I have done some comparison for Mediacorp TV and found that NICAM (analogue TV) sounds much better than HE-AAC digital audio.

In UK they send most digital radio stations in MP2 and in 80kbps Mono (most commercial stations) or 128kbps Joint Stereo (for BBC stations) and there are little complaints except from the audiophile community/some listeners.

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 21 2017, 01:15 AM

Oh, Mediacorp did offer DD+ audio previously? Any idea why they change to HE-AAC audio for its 5.1 audio, and why is it going to do with the modulation mode to 16QAM? Lesser QAM, lesser bandwidth?

And I found out that Mediacorp uses HE-AAC 64kbps Stereo, but Malaysia's one is HE-AAC v2 32kbps Stereo.

MP2 is commonly used in broadcasts because of its royalty-free, and provide good-enough audio quality, but still not as good as MP3.

If both Gunung Pulai and Metropolis Tower use the same frequency then there will be some interference issues for 987FM.

The Metropolis tower can just lower their transmitting power, isn't? To make sure it's not too strong to interfere 987FM?

They always offer HE-AAC 5.1 surround sound + HE-AAC 2.0 audio combination for all HD channels from start. As for DD+ audio, they did offer as an extra soundtrack for Channel 5 until they switch modulation to 16QAM. (Total usable bitrate was dropped from around 20Mbps per multiplex to just slightly about 15 Mbps, as a side effect of bitrate drop the picture become more blockier on more complex scenes)

MP2 audio is used for UK DAB Digital radio from around late 1999 until now for compatibility issues. Most other countries using DAB has already switched to / only use HE-AAC (DAB+) audio.

If Astro Radio have option to only use 98.4 MHz in ommi directional radiation pattern, they will only use 98.4 MHz for whole of Johor Bahru. They will rather not waste money to have extra transmitters on Metropolis Tower. I tuned the FM signal via my mobile phone and the signal is is really weak in some areas if compared to other stations transmitted on the same Gunung Pulai mast. Remember that the FM tuners in the past are less sensitive than what we have now.
In Klang Valley, the FM reception on the move is poor in some areas due to terrain but all commercial operators choose to not waste money to have extra transmitters for KL. RTM themselves have 2X frequency for each main national stations in Klang Valley.

This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 21 2017, 02:12 AM

To me, low audio quality is extremely obvious when TV3 HD airs Hindi drama series Naagin now, the audio sucks. Meanwhile the same drama Naagin aired by Astro CH108 Tara HD, its sound was superb with 5.1 surround effect.

I do agree that picture quality is more important than sound quality.

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This post has been edited by shaun_kok: Nov 22 2017, 04:46 AM

Hmm u cannot compare with astro leh...

TV 3 HD still on test mode.. Donno when will they complete...

Btw the Naagin drama is the Snake one izzit?? Too much CGI involved 😂😂 saw recently at friends house..looks interesting only 😄