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phevos_zkian
post Aug 10 2012, 11:44 PM

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All the marimo masters... Recently really hot ><
Remember to make some cold spa for our beloved marimos ya~
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post Aug 10 2012, 11:52 PM

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my marimo have been in the fridge every day from 12-6 in the afternoon..
then i take out to put it under the lights.
>.<

Hope it'll make the browness go away.
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post Aug 11 2012, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 9 2012, 11:43 PM)
is it okay to open marimo a lil bit to see its inside..? O_O"


Really don't recommend it. From what I've seen/read it's very difficult to get the fibres to close back up.

QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 9 2012, 11:43 PM)
Really cuuutee.. biggrin.gif  yeah indeed looks like they're trying to get back together
pretty marimos you have..!
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Thanks!

QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Aug 10 2012, 12:15 AM)
then how come they dont pearl/photosynthesis at all for mine? sad.gif

Anyway,your marimos are looking good. smile.gif
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Thanks!

Try hitting all the right conditions for the marimo; roughly 10C water (you can store some in the fridge), LOTS of light (I use a strong LED lamp that puts out very little heat), agitated water (I just shake the container or full blast tap water to get some air into it), and a pinch of salt.

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QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 11 2012, 12:15 AM)
Really don't recommend it. From what I've seen/read it's very difficult to get the fibres to close back up.
Thanks!
Thanks!

Try hitting all the right conditions for the marimo; roughly 10C water (you can store some in the fridge), LOTS of light (I use a strong LED lamp that puts out very little heat), agitated water (I just shake  the container or full blast tap water to get some air into it), and a pinch of salt.
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wondering how much is the watt for ur LED lamp? (8 watt? 11 watt? etc) smile.gif
thank you
Kaisergrendel
post Aug 11 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 11 2012, 02:43 AM)
wondering how much is the watt for ur LED lamp? (8 watt? 11 watt? etc) smile.gif
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Hey, very low wattage, 2W if I remember correctly, but the beam is very narrow so most of it concentrates onto my tank. Pretty efficient. I can leave it on from day to night without worrying about the power bill.
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post Aug 15 2012, 01:48 PM

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Hello, I'm getting ready for Leeyung's Nano Marimo that currently on the way to my home^^.So I have a few questions..thank you for Marimo fan for reading my questions, hehehe..

1. do Coral sand need to be washed frequently?
2. what kind of salt that we should use to treat Sick Marimo?
3. how to treat yellowish marimo? How long do I need to put yellowish marimo in the fridge? Do I need to quarantine marimo from any Light when they turn yellowish?
4. what is the Best Lamp for Marimo? (I need reference for the tank setup!)^^
5. what kind of Fish is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif
6. what tool do I need to use to balance/create best water condition for Marimo?
7. what kind of plant is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif

thank you so much~ I really want my marimos have the best treatment! >.<)b
I try my best smile.gif
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post Aug 15 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 15 2012, 01:48 PM)
Hello, I'm getting ready for Leeyung's Nano Marimo that currently on the way to my home^^.So I have a few questions..thank you for Marimo fan for reading my questions, hehehe..

1. do Coral sand need to be washed frequently?
2. what kind of salt that we should use to treat Sick Marimo?
3. how to treat yellowish marimo? How long do I need to put yellowish marimo in the fridge? Do I need to quarantine marimo from any Light when they turn yellowish?
4. what is the Best Lamp for Marimo? (I need reference for the tank setup!)^^
5. what kind of Fish is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif
6. what tool do I need to use to balance/create best water condition for Marimo?
7. what kind of plant is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif

thank you so much~ I really want my marimos have the best treatment! >.<)b
I try my best smile.gif
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most of your questions have been answered by Leeyung's previously in the first page.
do try and read there, though you might find some answers maybe differ from person to person like question number 2,3,4,5,6 and 7.
biggrin.gif no offense though.

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post Aug 15 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 15 2012, 03:48 PM)
Hello, I'm getting ready for Leeyung's Nano Marimo that currently on the way to my home^^.So I have a few questions..thank you for Marimo fan for reading my questions, hehehe..

1. do Coral sand need to be washed frequently?
2. what kind of salt that we should use to treat Sick Marimo?
3. how to treat yellowish marimo? How long do I need to put yellowish marimo in the fridge? Do I need to quarantine marimo from any Light when they turn yellowish?
4. what is the Best Lamp for Marimo? (I need reference for the tank setup!)^^
5. what kind of Fish is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif
6. what tool do I need to use to balance/create best water condition for Marimo?
7. what kind of plant is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif

thank you so much~ I really want my marimos have the best treatment! >.<)b
I try my best smile.gif
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Hey Fox, I think others will be able to answer the questions better than I can, but I have one piece of advice for you - start simple. Focus on giving your marimo the right kind of water and light first. The simplicity is the whole point with marimo! Unless you're an experienced aquarium owner, it's difficult to set up the right conditions for even just one type of organism. Put simply, if you decide to throw in more plants, fish, you're very likely to encounter deaths in the tank, which will then turn it into a very hostile environment for everything inside it unless you clean it up well. If you have experience or want to go ahead and try anyway, please ignore this ^^

But, based on what I've read:

2. Normal non-iodised salt will work. Leeyung says special "marimo salt" aren't anything special and just grossly marked up regular salt.
3. The fridge is for temperature, the darkness is to eliminate fast-growing unwanted algae that thrive on high amounts of light. Since the fast-growing algae have high metabolic rates, the lack of light will quickly kill them off, while the marimo is adapted to low light and grows very slowly. Use these parameters according to the state of your marimo.
4. Everywhere I've read says *any* artificial light will do, even your ceiling light. Just avoid direct sunlight, it's the #1 mistake owners seem to make. Whatever your light source, make sure it doesn't put out a lot of heat, or you could bake your marimo. Leeyung says high amounts of light encourages pearling.
6. Leeyung says use a filter, which cleans your water and incorporates fresh air into the water through agitation. The increased CO2 will encourage photosynthesis, which leads to more pearling and more rapid growth.

Good luck!
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post Aug 15 2012, 10:33 PM

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btw, i would like to share, some of my preffered faunas for my marimos are dwarf shrimps(RCS,fire red,etc),
dwarf crayfish(cpo), Otocinclus and platydoras and corydoras since most of them dont disturb the marimos and they will clean your marimo free of charge. tongue.gif

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post Aug 15 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 15 2012, 09:02 PM)
most of your questions have been answered by Leeyung's previously in the first page.
do try and read there, though you might find some answers maybe differ from person to person like question number 2,3,4,5,6 and 7.
biggrin.gif no offense though.

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Thank you for the hint
I've been reading from back page to front, 100 page++ cant finish yet though hahaha XD


Added on August 15, 2012, 10:41 pm
QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 15 2012, 10:33 PM)
btw, i would like to share, some of my preffered faunas for my marimos are dwarf shrimps(RCS,fire red,etc),
dwarf crayfish(cpo), Otocinclus and platydoras and corydoras since most of them dont disturb the marimos and they will clean your marimo free of charge.  tongue.gif

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Thank you for the sharing ^^ hehehhe now i have the references about this


Added on August 15, 2012, 10:50 pm
QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 15 2012, 09:11 PM)
Hey Fox, I think others will be able to answer the questions better than I can, but I have one piece of advice for you - start simple. Focus on giving your marimo the right kind of water and light first. The simplicity is the whole point with marimo! Unless you're an experienced aquarium owner, it's difficult to set up the right conditions for even just one type of organism. Put simply, if you decide to throw in more plants, fish, you're very likely to encounter deaths in the tank, which will then turn it into a very hostile environment for everything inside it unless you clean it up well. If you have experience or want to go ahead and try anyway, please ignore this ^^

But, based on what I've read:

2. Normal non-iodised salt will work. Leeyung says special "marimo salt" aren't anything special and just grossly marked up regular salt.
3. The fridge is for temperature, the darkness is to eliminate fast-growing unwanted algae that thrive on high amounts of light. Since the fast-growing algae have high metabolic rates, the lack of light will quickly kill them off, while the marimo is adapted to low light and grows very slowly. Use these parameters according to the state of your marimo.
4. Everywhere I've read says *any* artificial light will do, even your ceiling light. Just avoid direct sunlight, it's the #1 mistake owners seem to make. Whatever your light source, make sure it doesn't put out a lot of heat, or you could bake your marimo. Leeyung says high amounts of light encourages pearling.
6. Leeyung says use a filter, which cleans your water and incorporates fresh air into the water through agitation. The increased CO2 will encourage photosynthesis, which leads to more pearling and more rapid growth.

Good luck!
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Hello, thank you for the reply!
About the lighting i just confuse which one is best, between Fluorecense, general lamp, or LED and how much is the best watt level photosynthesis?

I stil waiting my marimos from leeyung actually XD
I checked the marimos already arrived in my city, waiting the shipment to my home now, yay (^∇^)


Added on August 16, 2012, 1:01 amanyway
just for sharing
tools to help calculate the best watt for ur tank? smile.gif

http://www.theaquatools.com/electric-equipment-calculator

hope it helps many marimo fan out there..

This post has been edited by Azure_Fox: Aug 16 2012, 01:01 AM
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post Aug 16 2012, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 16 2012, 12:38 AM)
Hello, thank you for the reply!
About the lighting i just confuse which one is best, between Fluorecense, general lamp, or LED and how much is the best watt level photosynthesis?


I would go with fluorescents or LED. I'm assuming you mean incandescents when you say "general lamp", which work by burning a filament to give off light. These are not good since they give off a good amount of infrared light (heat) that will affect the temperature of your water.

You know how plants are green? That means they reflect green light - meaning they don't absorb it and therefore don't need it. Knowing this, the best light for your marimo is actually light from the red and blue regions of the spectrum. Blue and red LED's will be the most efficient at providing the needed light, although it's not the most appealing.

You won't go wrong with white fluoro's or LED's really. You might consider the fact that fluoro's give off some UV light, but I doubt it's enough to harm most things.

Also, be aware that wattage is not a good indicator for lumens (amount of photon generation), since each lamp and each type of lamp has very different output characteristics. You will get a LOT more light from a 40 watt LED lamp compared to a 40 watt halogen, generally speaking.

QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Aug 16 2012, 12:38 AM)
just for sharing
tools to help calculate the best watt for ur tank? smile.gif

http://www.theaquatools.com/electric-equipment-calculator

hope it helps many marimo fan out there..
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Thanks for that! Show us your marimo when they arrive smile.gif

I'm going out to buy a filter this weekend. A very low LPH one since there's nothing inside producing shit waste. Any tips?

This post has been edited by Kaisergrendel: Aug 16 2012, 07:25 PM
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post Aug 17 2012, 01:40 AM

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as I promised^^ I post my Marimos Photos today!
they arrived today biggrin.gif thank you so much to Leeyung for this adorable Marimos biggrin.gif I really love them, the package was so nice so the marimos arrived safely and in Fresh and Green condition..(it was 5 days journey to my house^^i)

thank you for Hexane too, helping me for the payment happy.gif<3 because of you too I can get this marimos hehehehe

the decoration still temporary, I quickly put them with whatever available today

I still need to buy filter...but I still confuse which type/size I should buy smile.gif hopefully I can get it soon

The lamp now is 8 watt incandescents lamp, Gonna find red/blue LED lamp too as sugested by Kaisergrendel here biggrin.gif

My aquarium size now is 15.5x15.5x15.5 cm...still thinking about the decoration.. happy.gif

Photos taken using Lumix Panasonic^_^

wondering why one of them floating and the rest aren't ya? sweat.gif

*all photos have been removed due to copyright reason=D*

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post Aug 17 2012, 07:35 AM

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nice marimos and lil cute tanks.
some of them will afloat if there are still air trapped inside. eventually they will sink down tongue.gif
filter is an added bonus. since your tank is small/nano tank,
i suggest Hang over/HOB filter since your tank already small and do find ones that could fit and nicely hang itself on the tank.

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 17 2012, 07:35 AM)
nice marimos and lil cute tanks.
some of them will afloat if there are still air trapped inside. eventually they will sink down  tongue.gif
filter is an added bonus. since your tank is small/nano tank,
i suggest Hang over/HOB filter since your tank already small and do find ones that could fit and nicely hang itself on the tank.

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HOB, okay^^
I heard that it's better to put Karbon Active and Active filter into the filter... is it only for Canister Filter or HOB filter also can use the karbon? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 12:07 PM

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usually HOB will provide the neccesary stuffs for first timer, including the media set(sponge floss) and activate carbon/charcoal
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 17 2012, 12:07 PM)
usually HOB will provide the neccesary stuffs for first timer, including the media set(sponge floss) and activate carbon/charcoal
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I see smile.gif thank you
I saw this yesterday at Fish accessories shop..

http://www.resun-china.com/en/ProductInfo....26&ProClass=117

but I don't know that brand is good/not... well It's my first time have an aquarium^^i and It only has sponge inside...
and the seller seems so lazy wherever I asked her questions '__'
she said no need Active Carbon, while I read that Active Carbon can be used for neutralized bad toxic things in the water and makes the water more clearer..
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post Aug 17 2012, 11:51 PM

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[quote=Azure_Fox,Aug 17 2012, 01:40 AM]
as I promised^^ I post my Marimos Photos today!
they arrived today biggrin.gif thank you so much to Leeyung for this adorable Marimos biggrin.gif I really love them, the package was so nice so the marimos arrived safely and in Fresh and Green condition..(it was 5 days journey to my house^^i)

thank you for Hexane too, helping me for the payment happy.gif<3 because of you too I can get this marimos hehehehe

the decoration still temporary, I quickly put them with whatever available today

I still need to buy filter...but I still confuse which type/size I should buy smile.gif hopefully I can get it soon

The lamp now is 8 watt incandescents lamp, Gonna find red/blue LED lamp too as sugested by Kaisergrendel here biggrin.gif

My aquarium size now is 15.5x15.5x15.5 cm...still thinking about the decoration.. happy.gif

Photos taken using Lumix Panasonic^_^

wondering why one of them floating and the rest aren't ya? sweat.gif



Hello Azure Fox
Your tank looks very big. Much bigger that describe by you as 15.5 cm by 15.5 cm. Better be quick in getting in the filter and some fish in. Then your tank will be very vibrant, fill with movement and colours. rclxms.gif
By the way, what is the size of your Marimo?? Looks like Giant or Super Giant from picture. And how many did you get from LeeYunG. I can count about 10 of them. drool.gif
Good work, keep it up thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(HawkeyeLYN @ Aug 17 2012, 11:51 PM)

Hello Azure Fo
Your tank looks very big. Much bigger that describe by you as 15.5 cm by 15.5 cm. Better be quick in getting in the filter and some fish in. Then your tank will be very vibrant, fill with movement and colours.  rclxms.gif
By the way, what is the size of your Marimo?? Looks like Giant or Super Giant from picture. And how many did you get from LeeYunG. I can count about 10 of them.  drool.gif
Good work, keep it up  thumbup.gif
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Hello, mine are actually in Nano size XD thats why the aquarium looks so big hehheh.. I think i only add filters and led lamp, since i dont experience in petting fish at all+_+

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Good Evening~my Marimo Photo today~happy.gif
they Still Photosyntesi-ng tho..even the bubbles not so many..

anyway Marimo fellows, I try to put this small stones into my aquarium
I washed it for 3 days..but somehow the water still unclear everytime I washed the stones (well, not as unclear as before).
Is it possible to wash the aquarium stones until the water really clear? +_+?


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hello.. can i know how to buy nano marimo from you? can i get the price? thank you~~

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