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Azure_Fox
post Aug 6 2012, 11:40 AM

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Hello all
I recently bought Marimo too^^
It's from Strapya, Marimo Phone Charm
Wondering, I saw many pictures in Internet that Nano Marimo isn't as small as mine that I bought from Strapya (5mm diametre)
and this is my first time I owned Marimo >.<

Wondering is Marimo 5mm size like mine need more special care? since it's reaaally small
yesterday It's photosynthes-ing..then today it didn't, so I try to change the water, and push it with my finger a little on tissue so the old water getting out, then it starts Photosynthes-ing (pearling) again

Why It didn't photosynthes-ing before? O_o" do I need to press it to let the water out everyday so It can photosynthesis?

thanks alot!
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post Aug 6 2012, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(femgoo2005 @ Aug 6 2012, 06:05 PM)
If no photosynthesis how it can maintain it's greenish color leh? Anyway i'm not expert but since it only grow so little per year so i can only say its process of photosynthesis is slower than normal plant as it doesn't need much sun light. Mine i placed in the bathroom most of the time and it were so so green like in Dark Greenish color so healthy.
So it's good to hear from a marimo fan here that concern about their marimo but as long as they are healthy you no need to concern about what to see wif naked eye lah hehe biggrin.gif
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thank you for the reply biggrin.gif
well, I hope mine is genuine~ since the strap from strapya is so famous...
I see that when there is light, little marimo starts its pearling, then when I move the bottle to the darker places where there is no light, it starts sinking..
I really hope that it's genuine >.<"

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post Aug 7 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 7 2012, 07:31 AM)
IMHO, you can only see the photosynthesis after-effect, O2 being released in the water if your water is fully saturated with O2 and CO2 gas.
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what is it look like?


Added on August 7, 2012, 11:15 amHello~ this is my little Marimo...only 5mm size >.<
I think it's real because It's change its colour when the temperature alil bit high...

day 1 I got from the shipping from Strapya

http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/c...00a1c8651_7.jpg (messy?)

Day 2, I change the water (since I got it in the evening), washed it, then it started photosynthesis in the morning
http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/2...138141b3c_7.jpg

Day 3, maybe I left it too long next to the window when I work in the afternoon..(maybe the sunlight?) T__T"
http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/9...138204901_7.jpg

anyone here got Instagram?happy.gif add me @azurefox hehehehe



and I saw from another seller that there is grade A and B marimo (well, the difference is the fur when I see the photo) A kinda soft, and B kinda rough and rotate look like..dunno is this true/not..or maybe they're different marimo from different country? =_=

This post has been edited by Azure_Fox: Aug 7 2012, 11:15 AM
Azure_Fox
post Aug 8 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(meagan3333 @ Aug 7 2012, 08:41 PM)
ewwww... y ur marimo look like very yellowish in the Day 3 photo????? mine marimos all dark green n healthy healthy.... yellowish meaning already sick right???

i read from other site about the grade A and B marimo, they say the facebook seller is a cheapo and money sucker..... the grades are just to cheat beginner marimo owners according to what they say.... guess u gotta be careful when the seller say their marimo are grade A marimo.. RM80 for Nano nehhh.......such a money suckerr seller....... (a facebook seller konon... more like scammer)..... if want get marimo u better buy from our lowyat dai ghor marimo seller leeyung.... sure no regrets.....
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yess sad.gif( I think I left the bottle near my window too long!! hiks hiks
how to recover it?? I put my marimo in my fridge all day since this morning.. dunno how long it will go back to green hiks hiks
I put a lil salt also in it... do I must put salt again tomorrow?
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(femgoo2005 @ Aug 8 2012, 06:26 PM)
Is it posible to ask the seller since they are the only one knows the originality of their Marimo. Anyway the curing is not a one night thing, it may take months. Having Marimo in a small bottle as key chain/ hp strap is not reliable at all in my opinion. The bottle so small, the chances you'll let it expose to sun light, the water contain in the small bottle are so so so little( as in summer it requires water changing more frequent). There are some even find that they smell when they open the container to change its water.
In short, you need to ask the seller if they possible to help you.
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oh it take months? okay! I try hard to cure this little thing thumbup.gif
today I see my marimo let out some dirt things (outside the marimo, and some is shredded on the bottom of the bottle)
yes I don't put my marimo in a small bottle anymore.. instead I buy bigger bottle and put it in my 20C air-con room
maybe at night I try to put it in a fridge, but I checked my fridge temperature is 12C..is that okay?
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(frozendream @ Aug 8 2012, 08:37 PM)
as long as it is not in the freezer should be ok. but remember to take it out over nite. i once left my momo in the fridge and forgot about it. when i realised, the whole thing turned brown d. T.T
even though they love chill places, but they oso need light. i guess i accidently left them in cold darkness...
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aww.. sad.gif poor momo-chan..so how is momo now? is momo cured yet?
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(frozendream @ Aug 8 2012, 10:57 PM)
erm, i thought whole thing turned brown means... died? >.<
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shocking.gif I see.. >.<"
I my momo still in yellowish green phase..dunno it can make it or not T_T
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post Aug 9 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(meagan3333 @ Aug 8 2012, 11:13 PM)
wow........20C air con room sure good for then. mine also i put at 23C air con room. guess they love the coldness!! hope your yellowish get well soon ya!!


hopefully! pray for me! (20C makes me freezing tho...but for my momo I will do this! XDD)->I use blanket while in the room actualy hahaha...
Is 12C for marimo should be okay yah?

I ever read 12C is the minimum, but since my momo is very small than Nano =.=" I'm afraid the coldness might hurt it.

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post Aug 9 2012, 09:43 PM

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is it okay to open marimo a lil bit to see its inside..? O_O"


Added on August 9, 2012, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 9 2012, 08:11 PM)
Hi all,

I'm a long time fan of Lowyat (the building) and now a proud marimo owner. I've been away from Malaysia for 7 years but I manage to visit that place every time I come back xD

Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for making this thread, it's a great source of knowledge for me (and many others I'm sure), and to introduce my family.

This picture was taken a few days after one of my 2.5cm marimo "died" and fell apart. It endured three weeks in the postal system before arriving here, along with 10 other similar sized marimo that all got squashed and a little browned in the process.

I read everything I could find on the net before handling them, but nothing beats experience  biggrin.gif

In the interest of returning them to nice ball shapes, I was a little over-enthusiastic in rolling and squeezing them between my palms. The water came out brown the first 2-3 times, and then tufts of fur. Lots and lots of brown gunk floating around, even immediately after I changed the water and cleaned them.

After that I noticed two of them had "pacman'd" I quarantined and fridge spa'd one of them, but it was too late, it just kept falling apart. So I took the individual pieces and rolled them back together into nanos. They pearled and floated, then landed on top of each other.

Do you think they're trying to get back together?

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Really cuuutee.. biggrin.gif yeah indeed looks like they're trying to get back together
pretty marimos you have..!

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post Aug 9 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Sherry0315 @ Aug 9 2012, 09:56 PM)
Go do the frog dont do on your baby mairmo  shakehead.gif
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okay! wink.gif
Is it dangerous? Can make baby marimo die?
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post Aug 11 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 11 2012, 12:15 AM)
Really don't recommend it. From what I've seen/read it's very difficult to get the fibres to close back up.
Thanks!
Thanks!

Try hitting all the right conditions for the marimo; roughly 10C water (you can store some in the fridge), LOTS of light (I use a strong LED lamp that puts out very little heat), agitated water (I just shake  the container or full blast tap water to get some air into it), and a pinch of salt.
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wondering how much is the watt for ur LED lamp? (8 watt? 11 watt? etc) smile.gif
thank you
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post Aug 15 2012, 01:48 PM

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Hello, I'm getting ready for Leeyung's Nano Marimo that currently on the way to my home^^.So I have a few questions..thank you for Marimo fan for reading my questions, hehehe..

1. do Coral sand need to be washed frequently?
2. what kind of salt that we should use to treat Sick Marimo?
3. how to treat yellowish marimo? How long do I need to put yellowish marimo in the fridge? Do I need to quarantine marimo from any Light when they turn yellowish?
4. what is the Best Lamp for Marimo? (I need reference for the tank setup!)^^
5. what kind of Fish is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif
6. what tool do I need to use to balance/create best water condition for Marimo?
7. what kind of plant is the best to put together with Marimo? smile.gif

thank you so much~ I really want my marimos have the best treatment! >.<)b
I try my best smile.gif
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post Aug 15 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 15 2012, 09:02 PM)
most of your questions have been answered by Leeyung's previously in the first page.
do try and read there, though you might find some answers maybe differ from person to person like question number 2,3,4,5,6 and 7.
biggrin.gif no offense though.

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Thank you for the hint
I've been reading from back page to front, 100 page++ cant finish yet though hahaha XD


Added on August 15, 2012, 10:41 pm
QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 15 2012, 10:33 PM)
btw, i would like to share, some of my preffered faunas for my marimos are dwarf shrimps(RCS,fire red,etc),
dwarf crayfish(cpo), Otocinclus and platydoras and corydoras since most of them dont disturb the marimos and they will clean your marimo free of charge.  tongue.gif

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Thank you for the sharing ^^ hehehhe now i have the references about this


Added on August 15, 2012, 10:50 pm
QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 15 2012, 09:11 PM)
Hey Fox, I think others will be able to answer the questions better than I can, but I have one piece of advice for you - start simple. Focus on giving your marimo the right kind of water and light first. The simplicity is the whole point with marimo! Unless you're an experienced aquarium owner, it's difficult to set up the right conditions for even just one type of organism. Put simply, if you decide to throw in more plants, fish, you're very likely to encounter deaths in the tank, which will then turn it into a very hostile environment for everything inside it unless you clean it up well. If you have experience or want to go ahead and try anyway, please ignore this ^^

But, based on what I've read:

2. Normal non-iodised salt will work. Leeyung says special "marimo salt" aren't anything special and just grossly marked up regular salt.
3. The fridge is for temperature, the darkness is to eliminate fast-growing unwanted algae that thrive on high amounts of light. Since the fast-growing algae have high metabolic rates, the lack of light will quickly kill them off, while the marimo is adapted to low light and grows very slowly. Use these parameters according to the state of your marimo.
4. Everywhere I've read says *any* artificial light will do, even your ceiling light. Just avoid direct sunlight, it's the #1 mistake owners seem to make. Whatever your light source, make sure it doesn't put out a lot of heat, or you could bake your marimo. Leeyung says high amounts of light encourages pearling.
6. Leeyung says use a filter, which cleans your water and incorporates fresh air into the water through agitation. The increased CO2 will encourage photosynthesis, which leads to more pearling and more rapid growth.

Good luck!
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Hello, thank you for the reply!
About the lighting i just confuse which one is best, between Fluorecense, general lamp, or LED and how much is the best watt level photosynthesis?

I stil waiting my marimos from leeyung actually XD
I checked the marimos already arrived in my city, waiting the shipment to my home now, yay (^∇^)


Added on August 16, 2012, 1:01 amanyway
just for sharing
tools to help calculate the best watt for ur tank? smile.gif

http://www.theaquatools.com/electric-equipment-calculator

hope it helps many marimo fan out there..

This post has been edited by Azure_Fox: Aug 16 2012, 01:01 AM
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post Aug 17 2012, 01:40 AM

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as I promised^^ I post my Marimos Photos today!
they arrived today biggrin.gif thank you so much to Leeyung for this adorable Marimos biggrin.gif I really love them, the package was so nice so the marimos arrived safely and in Fresh and Green condition..(it was 5 days journey to my house^^i)

thank you for Hexane too, helping me for the payment happy.gif<3 because of you too I can get this marimos hehehehe

the decoration still temporary, I quickly put them with whatever available today

I still need to buy filter...but I still confuse which type/size I should buy smile.gif hopefully I can get it soon

The lamp now is 8 watt incandescents lamp, Gonna find red/blue LED lamp too as sugested by Kaisergrendel here biggrin.gif

My aquarium size now is 15.5x15.5x15.5 cm...still thinking about the decoration.. happy.gif

Photos taken using Lumix Panasonic^_^

wondering why one of them floating and the rest aren't ya? sweat.gif

*all photos have been removed due to copyright reason=D*

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post Aug 17 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 17 2012, 07:35 AM)
nice marimos and lil cute tanks.
some of them will afloat if there are still air trapped inside. eventually they will sink down  tongue.gif
filter is an added bonus. since your tank is small/nano tank,
i suggest Hang over/HOB filter since your tank already small and do find ones that could fit and nicely hang itself on the tank.

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HOB, okay^^
I heard that it's better to put Karbon Active and Active filter into the filter... is it only for Canister Filter or HOB filter also can use the karbon? rclxub.gif
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post Aug 17 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 17 2012, 12:07 PM)
usually HOB will provide the neccesary stuffs for first timer, including the media set(sponge floss) and activate carbon/charcoal
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I see smile.gif thank you
I saw this yesterday at Fish accessories shop..

http://www.resun-china.com/en/ProductInfo....26&ProClass=117

but I don't know that brand is good/not... well It's my first time have an aquarium^^i and It only has sponge inside...
and the seller seems so lazy wherever I asked her questions '__'
she said no need Active Carbon, while I read that Active Carbon can be used for neutralized bad toxic things in the water and makes the water more clearer..
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post Aug 18 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(HawkeyeLYN @ Aug 17 2012, 11:51 PM)

Hello Azure Fo
Your tank looks very big. Much bigger that describe by you as 15.5 cm by 15.5 cm. Better be quick in getting in the filter and some fish in. Then your tank will be very vibrant, fill with movement and colours.  rclxms.gif
By the way, what is the size of your Marimo?? Looks like Giant or Super Giant from picture. And how many did you get from LeeYunG. I can count about 10 of them.  drool.gif
Good work, keep it up  thumbup.gif
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Hello, mine are actually in Nano size XD thats why the aquarium looks so big hehheh.. I think i only add filters and led lamp, since i dont experience in petting fish at all+_+

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post Aug 18 2012, 07:03 PM

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Good Evening~my Marimo Photo today~happy.gif
they Still Photosyntesi-ng tho..even the bubbles not so many..

anyway Marimo fellows, I try to put this small stones into my aquarium
I washed it for 3 days..but somehow the water still unclear everytime I washed the stones (well, not as unclear as before).
Is it possible to wash the aquarium stones until the water really clear? +_+?


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post Aug 19 2012, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 19 2012, 12:25 AM)
Please pardon the website, but I'm set on buying this HOB filter. I've seen many people recommend this brand above all others. Could be a bit pricey to pay in ringgit though tongue.gif

http://www.amazon.com/AquaClear-20-Power-F...s/dp/B000260FVG

The brand also sells all kinds of filter medium. I'm pretty comfortable with their range.
wow..will try to find that filter.. the Price also reasonable I think..
At first I was try to find Resun Cy20 Cannister Filter.. but some people said that isn't necessary to keep using Carbon Active..(because they said it clears everything in the water?dunno..)=_=

QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Aug 19 2012, 12:25 AM)

Added on August 19, 2012, 12:29 am

Damn, leeyung's marimo look flawless.

I tried to use gravel in my tank as well. After washing it for the 3rd time, I gave up. Just not worth the trouble, so now all that's in my tank is marimo and water, and I'm finding I quite like the look anyway. Makes cleaning easier too.

However, if you're set on using gravel, you could ask an aquarium shop to sell you existing gravel from their tanks. I did this once and boiled the gravel just to make sure I didn't import any nasties, and the water was clear.
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ah Boiled.. will try Boiling the gravel too >.< thank you for the suggestion wink.gif
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post Aug 19 2012, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Aug 19 2012, 01:04 AM)
what i did was clean the gravel/sand/substrate the best i can,
install filter(active carbon doesnt really works IMO sad.gif ) and use RO water since
your setup havent got any faunas in it and lack of nutrients and minerals will make the water extra clear than using tap water.
if got extra cash to spare, chuck in seachem purigen in the filter(for xtra clearer water-good substitute for active carbon) and
use seachem equilibrium to re-establish the ideal mineral content back in the water.

but if youre unsure if youre gonna do with your cute marimos in the future, just rinse the gravel the best you can,
put filter and water, and wait till all the dust settle  biggrin.gif
maybe a day or 2 might clear it up.

why did i do these steps? to give love and cherish to our pet marimos  wub.gif , maybe i ought to get a few more from Leeyung but dunno when
where is he btw though? in Hokkaido? getting another big super duper jumbo marimo? 

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uhm..what is RO water?
what is Seachem Equilibrium? O_O" (sorry, I'm very noob)
so maybe I don't need to use Carbon active?
or maybe I use CO2 tablets for better water?

hehehe, I want to buy more Super and Giant too from Leeyung biggrin.gif
waiting after Lebaran usai..


Added on August 19, 2012, 1:30 amjust wanna share Marimo from different countries
wondering why Natural Marimos have short fur and more round shape? O_O? I see from Iceland and Hokkaido almost the same

Iceland
http://www.flickr.com/photos/clausinisland/426564098/

Hokkaido
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentayamasaki/5296652402/

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