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Shoot@M3	Nov 14 2005, 08:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
=\|\| elf \|\|= Senior Member 1,326 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Kota Kinabalu, Orang Utan Clan o.O	QUOTE(epsilon99 @ Nov 13 2005, 10:59 PM) The Celeron II, the Coopermine family of 180nm process, were an excellent overclocker. The speed started from 533 until like 1000 or 1100. You had a 600EB ? That is not Celeron, but P3. E means Coopermine/180nm and B means 133mhz FSB. Celeron has only 66 and 100 FSB. For P3 of any EB speed, they were not popular among overclocker. Due to unable to clock higher. Not because of processor, but because of mobo limitation. And mobo limitation were mainly limited by the ram speed (pc100/133 sdaram). Celeron Coopermine. When first released, were the hot cake among overclockers. 566mhz at 8.5 x 66, were easily overclocked to 8.5 x >95 to achieve >800mhz speed. And better yet, eventhough Celeron has only 128k cache, compare to P3 of 256k cache, the performance at same mhz speed were less than 10% difference. But the price of a 566mhz Celeron was like 1/3 of a 800mhz P3. Oops. Yes the 600EB I mentioned was actually P3 not celeron. That means coppermine are good OC as well. Wow, thanks for the explanation epsilon99. On my Tualatin, I was limited by the mobo settings and couldn't go any further. If only I can go further then I would be able to test how good Tualatin's are. So far haven't notice any instability on my rig yet
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TSantonio	Dec 3 2005, 02:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #242
AMD Phenom II & Intel i7 Overclocker VIP 4,032 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: MSR Headquaters	no Intel record breaking nowadays????
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pornstar	Dec 5 2005, 12:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
All.night.long. Senior Member 798 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: The SS	guys i know that the asus p4p800 series is a very good mobo for ocing..does the letters behind the series matter? like for example p4p800x?
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Shah81	Dec 6 2005, 02:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
Casual Junior Member 480 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur	What is the max vcore can a prescott handle? My motherboard support up to 1.6v but a little bit scared to go above 1.5v....please advice thnx
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Monkey King	Dec 8 2005, 01:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #245
Autoparts Trader Senior Member 1,093 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SETAPAK, KL	well prescott is already kinda hot processor itself... increasing the vcore...would make it bake ...lol whats your current temp anyway ?
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Shah81	Dec 8 2005, 03:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
Casual Junior Member 480 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur	max is 50 under full load at current settings 1.43v for vcore.
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phunkydude	Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,402 posts Joined: Dec 2004	I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!... but hell shitt... i can't get anything further 240 fsb... meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ... aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem.. but till now... still no solution... sigh~``... anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd... jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz SIAW!!!!!!!!!!! and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla.... Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!! SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz..
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c9	Dec 8 2005, 08:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
Look at all my stars!! Elite 5,824 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara Perdana	QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 6 2005, 02:20 PM) What is the max vcore can a prescott handle? My motherboard support up to 1.6v but a little bit scared to go above 1.5v....please advice thnx If you have a proper cooling it shouldn't be a problem. For Stock HSF, 1.5-1.525v is the safest.. I normally pump up to 1.525v on stock HSF..
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c9	Dec 8 2005, 08:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #249
Look at all my stars!! Elite 5,824 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara Perdana	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM) I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!... but hell shitt... i can't get anything further 240 fsb... meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ... aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem.. but till now... still no solution... sigh~``... anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd... jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz SIAW!!!!!!!!!!! and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla.... Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!! SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz.. How's your RAM? Haven't tried lower divider or loose timing? And how's your vcore like? Your clockspeed fluctuates?
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nizamextreme	Dec 8 2005, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Getting Started Junior Member 241 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Hometown: Penang	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM) I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!... but hell shitt... i can't get anything further 240 fsb... meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ... aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem.. but till now... still no solution... sigh~``... anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd... jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz SIAW!!!!!!!!!!! and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla.... Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!! SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz.. wow man...i think your hyper 48 can't handle anymore heat if u oc till 4.0ghz..hohoho...i already use hyper48 before...its good at idle but not too good when full load...well good luck man.
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Shah81	Dec 8 2005, 02:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #251
Casual Junior Member 480 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE CoolerMaster Hyper 48 [Low:31C,36C \| High:38C,70C] Is that a 70C temp I see in your siggy. I dont think you can reach 4Ghz on that temp....maybe you can change to watercooling to hit your 4Ghz dream This post has been edited by Shah81: Dec 8 2005, 02:58 PM
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phunkydude	Dec 8 2005, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,402 posts Joined: Dec 2004	QUOTE(c9 @ Dec 8 2005, 08:51 AM) How's your RAM? Haven't tried lower divider or loose timing? And how's your vcore like? Your clockspeed fluctuates? i got put devider for my ram & loosen off all the timings when i oc my cpu... but shouldn't be the rams that cause the limitation... as last night till now i'm running at 250mhz ddr500 2.5-3-3-5 PAT and test stable. as for vcore.. , i've tried increase the vcore... it seems didn't works though.. at 3.6ghz 240 fsb, i'm 2 prime stable at 1.5v .... got once when i'm madddd~ ... when ocing fsb 255 , keep upping my vcore till 1.65v .. but still.. it didn't works... , as keep on fluctuating... sigh..~.. so sad...` QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Dec 8 2005, 12:18 PM) wow man...i think your hyper 48 can't handle anymore heat if u oc till 4.0ghz..hohoho...i already use hyper48 before...its good at idle but not too good when full load...well good luck man. hmm... if cooling it's the problem... how would the thermal cause the fluctuations of the frequency? ... hmm... when i upping fsb above 240 , the full load temp. is 70c . but prescott can handles safe temperature range till 80c right? and again.. , is it possible that thermal causing the fluctuations? i never heard intel cpu got this feature.
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Guriseruda	Dec 8 2005, 05:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #253
On my way Senior Member 660 posts Joined: Apr 2005	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:22 PM) i got put devider for my ram & loosen off all the timings when i oc my cpu... but shouldn't be the rams that cause the limitation... as last night till now i'm running at 250mhz ddr500 2.5-3-3-5 PAT and test stable. as for vcore.. , i've tried increase the vcore... it seems didn't works though.. at 3.6ghz 240 fsb, i'm 2 prime stable at 1.5v .... got once when i'm madddd~ ... when ocing fsb 255 , keep upping my vcore till 1.65v .. but still.. it didn't works... , as keep on fluctuating... sigh..~.. so sad...` hmm... if cooling it's the problem... how would the thermal cause the fluctuations of the frequency? ... hmm... when i upping fsb above 240 , the full load temp. is 70c . but prescott can handles safe temperature range till 80c right? and again.. , is it possible that thermal causing the fluctuations? i never heard intel cpu got this feature. wah using KVR ram Overclock untill 500mhz.. gang !!
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phunkydude	Dec 8 2005, 06:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,402 posts Joined: Dec 2004	QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Dec 8 2005, 05:34 PM) wah using KVR ram Overclock untill 500mhz.. gang !! neh...`.. nothing great..` i remember got one forumer hit 270mhz ddr540 with his kvr dt-d43....` now that's amazing for a value rams to hit 270mhz ddr540 ...
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Shah81	Dec 9 2005, 02:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
Casual Junior Member 480 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:22 PM) hmm... if cooling it's the problem... how would the thermal cause the fluctuations of the frequency? ... hmm... when i upping fsb above 240 , the full load temp. is 70c . but prescott can handles safe temperature range till 80c right? and again.. , is it possible that thermal causing the fluctuations? i never heard intel cpu got this feature. According to the P4 90n datasheet, a 89w P4 (i.e 2.4A like mine) have a maximum Tc of 69C (Tc=the IHS temperature). Get the temperature close to that and thermal throttling will execute. Here are some power ratings and the max Tc. 90W = 69.4C 92W = 70C 94W = 70.6C 96W = 71.1C 98W = 71.7C 100W = 72.3C But do remember that if you OC your P4 to a higher power ratings, it will still follow its original default max Tc. This is what I can find in the P4 datasheet. Hope people benefit from this.
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Guriseruda	Dec 9 2005, 11:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
On my way Senior Member 660 posts Joined: Apr 2005	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 06:10 PM) neh...`.. nothing great..` i remember got one forumer hit 270mhz ddr540 with his kvr dt-d43....` now that's amazing for a value rams to hit 270mhz ddr540 ... SUPER GANG!! not like my sux corsiar VS ram.. add another 5mhz also can't .. system will not stable
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tong1774	Dec 9 2005, 11:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Regular Senior Member 1,065 posts Joined: Dec 2004	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 03:46 AM) I want to break 4ghz~!!!!!... but hell shitt... i can't get anything further 240 fsb... meaning that max i can go is 3.6ghz ... aihh... i;m repeating over and over again in lyn on my ocing problem.. but till now... still no solution... sigh~``... anything above 240 fsb.. , it'll fluctuate like maddd... jumping like 3.6ghz -> 2.4ghz -> 2.8ghz -> 1.8ghz -> 3.5ghz -> 3.2ghz SIAW!!!!!!!!!!! and YES, i already turned off those bios settings such as, thermal control, spread spectrum.. bla bla.... Hell yea.. still can't get to 4ghz after tried for half a year already..!!! SOMEONE PLS GIVE ME MY 4GHZ...!!!! lolzzz.. Whats your PCI-E frequency when u hit 240MHZ? Mine can hit 125MHZ when i go to 250MHZ FSB even though i lock it in Bios. Oh have u try increase your Northbridge voltage? Try 1.7V, most ppl can go over 250MHZ with this voltage, Vcore dont go over 1.55, unless u have better cooling. I am using the same HSF like yours, but whats your mobo?
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shinjite	Dec 9 2005, 06:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,320 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 8 2005, 06:10 PM) neh...`.. nothing great..` i remember got one forumer hit 270mhz ddr540 with his kvr dt-d43....` now that's amazing for a value rams to hit 270mhz ddr540 ... Ask Bwan himself, he did a 306Mhz FSB max with his d43 single stick last time....crazy~~ Dual channel I forgot his speed already, all at 3-4-4-8 BT version
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phunkydude	Dec 9 2005, 07:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,402 posts Joined: Dec 2004	QUOTE(Shah81 @ Dec 9 2005, 02:15 AM) According to the P4 90n datasheet, a 89w P4 (i.e 2.4A like mine) have a maximum Tc of 69C (Tc=the IHS temperature). Get the temperature close to that and thermal throttling will execute. Here are some power ratings and the max Tc. 90W = 69.4C 92W = 70C 94W = 70.6C 96W = 71.1C 98W = 71.7C 100W = 72.3C But do remember that if you OC your P4 to a higher power ratings, it will still follow its original default max Tc. This is what I can find in the P4 datasheet. Hope people benefit from this. it seems my max Tc is around 71-72c .. but i did "disabled" the Thermal Control in the bios... as shut down the TM1 .. QUOTE(tong1774 @ Dec 9 2005, 11:36 AM) Whats your PCI-E frequency when u hit 240MHZ? Mine can hit 125MHZ when i go to 250MHZ FSB even though i lock it in Bios. Oh have u try increase your Northbridge voltage? Try 1.7V, most ppl can go over 250MHZ with this voltage, Vcore dont go over 1.55, unless u have better cooling. I am using the same HSF like yours, but whats your mobo? hmm.. i'm using AGP mobo.. Asus P5P800 .. hybrid mobo... , lga775 socket, ddr400, agp .... lolzz is vagp same as northbridge voltage? wondering will wc let it hit 4ghz...`` QUOTE(shinjite @ Dec 9 2005, 06:24 PM) Ask Bwan himself, he did a 306Mhz FSB max with his d43 single stick last time....crazy~~ Dual channel I forgot his speed already, all at 3-4-4-8 BT version uh-oh , 306mhz ddr612 .... that must be in dfi mobo..` -------------------------------------------------------------------------- i still not sure what leads to the frequency fluctuation.., either thermal/heat or the mobo 3 phase pwm ... or ... ?
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Shah81	Dec 9 2005, 09:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
Casual Junior Member 480 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Cheras, Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 9 2005, 07:17 PM) it seems my max Tc is around 71-72c .. but i did "disabled" the Thermal Control in the bios... as shut down the TM1 .. A quote from the P4 90nm datasheet: "The duty cycle for the TCC, when activated by the Thermal Monitor, is factory configured and cannot be modified. The Thermal Monitor does not require any additional hardware, software, drivers or interrupt handling routines." I believe when you disable the TM1 in bios, you are acctually disabling the motherboard own protection system but the cpu protection system is funtioning on its own.
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