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post Apr 5 2011, 11:35 PM


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COMING SOON

New development by JalilMax Development who is the developer of The Treez @ Bukit Jalil.

Next to the much talked about The Z Residence.

Total 5 blocks and consists of 881 units.

More details soon.
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post Apr 6 2011, 08:43 AM


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So the project name is confirmed the RAINZ and not The Leaf?? I think The Leaf name matches more Jalil Max condo theme since the previous project name is Treez. Another BBB project going to start sweat.gif
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post Apr 6 2011, 08:54 AM


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I heard that its going to be 500psf

Treez are expensive alrdy
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Aggressive pricing from an aggressive developer. smile.gif
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Apr 6 2011, 08:43 AM)
So the project name is confirmed the RAINZ and not The Leaf?? I think The Leaf name matches more Jalil Max condo theme since the previous project name is Treez. Another BBB project going to start  sweat.gif
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more interesting point is whether it is green-eco building?
and what would be starting price? if RM600k above with green-eco features, its in a different league of its own already...
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QUOTE(dcwhz83 @ Apr 6 2011, 09:05 AM)
more interesting point is whether it is green-eco building?
and what would be starting price? if RM600k above with green-eco features, its in a different league of its own already...
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Different league I'd say for sure as it will be alienating investors! Numbers just doesnt make sense. Both price point and density. Granted its
really starting from 600k.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:21 AM


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bukit jalil and cyberjaya are facing the similar faith of flooded with high end high rise
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:25 AM


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assume 1000sf x 500 = rm500k... good luck for sales..
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Bukit Jalil is alot better off if not for the almost simultaneous launches.

Either the developers knew something is brewing, or they are 'beating the iron while its hot' when the buyers are assuming that something is brewing. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cutealex @ Apr 6 2011, 09:25 AM)
assume 1000sf x 500 = rm500k... good luck for sales..
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Maybe they will thinking to sell 500sf x RM 1000 = RM 500k rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:30 AM


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You buy I buy....
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should say developer sell.. and some rich man will buy... rclxms.gif
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:41 AM


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I am just wondering, that RAINZ is between Z and Kiara. Where will be their main entrance? A dedicated flyover across Kesas Highway????? hehe very unlikely but I just cannot figure out where the entrance will be.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:53 AM


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green building can be as low as rm300psf.
just check out saville @ melawati.
comes with GBI.

the rainz should be selling on concept again to 'wow' their audience.
treez was highly successful as a niche product and also limited supply. but with 800 units, it would not be niche anymore.
at rm500psf, there would be plenty of options unless rainz really offer something that all nearby developments does not have.
eg. steam bath, outdoor shower, driving range, etc.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:55 AM


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rainz is coming......hope it is not so heavy...might flood soon
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:02 AM


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ai~~~~
y all prop so expensive..
pity poor ppl like me la...
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:06 AM


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Rainz got low rise or semid a not like treez?
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:28 AM


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People start guessing the price already... As I heard from the Z-Residence SA, this project proposal already submitted to land office for approval, price range is from 600K and above. I am not sure this info is true or not, may be you guys can check that out yourself. If not, people start calling me speculator again. Sigh.. I just want to share my information only.
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:31 AM


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more is coming to Bukit Jalil and Bandar Kinrara area. in the future the skyline will be like a mini Mont Kiara (that's why the name Kiara Residence Bukit Jalil 1 and 2 next to THE RAINZ)

dont forget Ho Hup is still having their projects on drawing board, once a white knight rescue them they will flood the market.

I&P Group also has condominiums on the drawing board for their Kinrara township.

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QUOTE(joeekh @ Apr 6 2011, 10:02 AM)
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y all prop so expensive..
pity poor ppl like me la...
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same here... no idea how to buy... rclxub.gif
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:56 AM


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QUOTE(siaww @ Apr 6 2011, 10:51 AM)
KL is not for poor ppl
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more specific Bukit Jalil is not for taikor wannabes
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rainz mostly sell the "concept"
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QUOTE(steason @ Apr 6 2011, 10:57 AM)
rainz mostly sell the "concept"
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all are selling "concept" so that they can increase the PRICE ... hahahaha rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(steason @ Apr 6 2011, 10:57 AM)
rainz mostly sell the "concept"
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can tell more what u meany by "concept"?
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post Apr 6 2011, 12:45 PM


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too many high rise condo in bukit jalil nowdays ...
next mont kiara ..i guess.

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Wah another high end pigeon hole ??? Think developer trying to whack as much as possible b4 market cools down..Looks like BBB for high rise would be ending sooner than expected..
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QUOTE(accetera @ Apr 6 2011, 10:31 AM)
more is coming to Bukit Jalil and Bandar Kinrara area. in the future the skyline will be like a mini Mont Kiara (that's why the name Kiara Residence Bukit Jalil 1 and 2 next to THE RAINZ)

dont forget Ho Hup is still having their projects on drawing board, once a white knight rescue them they will flood the market.

I&P Group also has condominiums on the drawing board for their Kinrara township.
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if everything completed i think more than mont kiara.
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post Apr 8 2011, 10:37 AM


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QUOTE(airline @ Apr 6 2011, 02:40 PM)
if everything completed i think more than mont kiara.
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Scary oh ..
But i stil wan to wait this project, compare to ZR see which is better buy.
KR2 until now oso no news haiya.
Actually too much choice already nowdays.. arte at kuchai oso looks interesting.
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post Apr 8 2011, 02:17 PM


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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Apr 8 2011, 10:37 AM)
Scary oh ..
But i stil wan to wait this project, compare to ZR see which is better buy.
KR2 until now oso no news haiya.
Actually too much choice already nowdays.. arte at kuchai oso looks interesting.
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what is arte at kuchai..?? rclxub.gif
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post Apr 8 2011, 02:33 PM


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art-e at kuchai is another new project..

refer to this thread for discussion on art-e

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry41386069
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post Apr 26 2011, 07:51 PM


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when this project launch??
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post Apr 26 2011, 10:39 PM


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hmm...

b4 tis is call treez..then now rainz...

then wat?? sunz?? landz? starz? cloudz?

okay mayb...treez is for their concept of greenary ?? then rainz = a lot of water = got beach , sea etc...

lol just try to be sarcastic.....to stir up the thread....not to mean to offense anybody or anything... tongue.gif

but KM 1 by BJ stand for wat??
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post Apr 26 2011, 11:19 PM


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QUOTE(noswear @ Apr 26 2011, 10:39 PM)
hmm...

b4 tis is call treez..then now rainz...

then wat?? sunz?? landz? starz? cloudz?

okay mayb...treez is for their concept of greenary ?? then rainz = a lot of water = got beach , sea etc...

lol just try to be sarcastic.....to stir up the thread....not to mean to offense anybody or anything... tongue.gif

but KM 1 by BJ stand for wat??
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got water then goood mah...no need scare water cut...somemore chinese say water = $$$
KM1 = KiloMeter1....
wahahahaha...
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post Apr 27 2011, 01:14 AM


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aiyo these people really lack of creativity ........ why called the project ' the rainz'? hahahahaha

a home is suppose to provide shelter and now it is raining in your house .......... dunno whether bad feng sui or not lol......

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QUOTE(innocuous76 @ Apr 27 2011, 01:14 AM)
aiyo these people really lack of creativity ........ why called the project ' the rainz'? hahahahaha

a home is suppose to provide shelter and now it is raining in your house .......... dunno whether bad feng sui or not lol......
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surely got rainwater harvesting technology... icon_rolleyes.gif
maybe channeled to each and every personal infinity pool brows.gif

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post Apr 27 2011, 11:57 AM


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in a related news:

new development for Sg Besi

the developer's THE LEAFZ is pretty awesome architecturally (something like M-City Ampang) ...





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QUOTE(accetera @ Apr 27 2011, 12:57 PM)
in a related news:

new development for Sg Besi

the developer's THE LEAFZ is pretty awesome architecturally (something like M-City Ampang) ...
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Aiyo now they have 'The Leafz'. Anyway come to think of it, at least all these names still sounds eco-frenly. hhahahahaha. Ok la... let's forgive these developers for being not so creative la.
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Getting irritated with the names actually...next would probably be Lubangz or Batangz launch at Jalan Chow Kit
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wao new condo again at the future crowded area. hopefully ppl still bbb
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QUOTE(innocuous76 @ Apr 27 2011, 01:14 AM)
aiyo these people really lack of creativity ........ why called the project ' the rainz'? hahahahaha

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die hard Rain (korean singer & actor, ninja assassin) fan.. during F1 concert got the idea...

rain is coming.. rain is coming..

or.. 'Hi.. Nama saya Rain'.. forgot which tv commercial.. biggrin.gif

by the way, there are so many condo development in this area.. Is that good for investment?

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post Apr 27 2011, 10:11 PM


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anyone know when is the launch?
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Finally up


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QUOTE(abgkik @ Apr 27 2011, 07:22 PM)
die hard Rain (korean singer & actor, ninja assassin) fan.. during F1 concert got the idea...

rain is coming.. rain is coming..

or.. 'Hi.. Nama saya Rain'.. forgot which tv commercial..  biggrin.gif

by the way, there are so many condo development in this area.. Is that good for investment?
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IF RAIN THE KOREAN SINGER BECOME THEIR PROPERTY AMBASSADOR, THIS PROJECT WILL MAJORITY BOUGHT BY FEMALE!!!! laugh.gif

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now one south called their project GardenZzzz....

Soon everyone will follow...
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No more news on this?
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why so quiet
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quiet coz residents complain? haha
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There is a new launch for 5 storey shop office with lift in BKT OUG near LRT station.

Kindly refer to the following link:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2089524
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this one launched?
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QUOTE(joeekh @ Apr 6 2011, 10:02 AM)
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pity poor ppl like me la...
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Building materials are not cheap nowadays.
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Bro, any news of this condo The Rainz?
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not so soon for this project...
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price should looks good too...
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Anyone knows when is this launching? Look interesting...
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Anyone knows when is this launching? Look interesting...
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Many peopled are waiting... Don't know when is the launching date..

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maybe after KR2 sell all their remaining units?
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Many peopled are waiting... Don't know when is the launching date..
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last year i asked they said this year. this year i asked they said next year. apparently they don't want to sell quick but hold on for good timing to grap the max margin?
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launch for highest price once everyone seeing the real of bj... cool2.gif
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but when is the highest price? inflation rising....cost of material also rising....later could be highest price for lower profit margin? don't know how they count.....
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should not difficult to forecast la...

better they launch it after jalil city launched, link roads materialized and lrt completed...able to justify their high rocket price...
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but the affordable ppl become lesser and lesser....until supply more than demand then they will regret?
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QUOTE(WaveW @ Apr 1 2012, 11:52 PM)
but the affordable ppl become lesser and lesser....until supply more than demand then they will regret?
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regret when they no buy....seeing the property price shoot up like rocket then they will claim this and that. who to blame?
when the property price stagnant...then they will claim themselve lucky and laughing at those ppls who bought the property?
take it or leave it....simple .

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ex-sim project usually very laku...as long as the project is good, ppl will buy...bad project even is cheap, still no ppl buying...

moreover, supply more than demand is a question...especially in bj, i dun expect this to happen...




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This project not get their permit yet and design oso not finalize yet.

They are expected to get their permit end of this year and will be launch on early of next year.
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Apr 2 2012, 12:31 AM)
This project not get their permit yet and design oso not finalize yet.

They are expected to get their permit end of this year and will be launch on early of next year.
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wow...that is fast considering no delay...

anyone guess the figure of selling price assuming will be launch on early of next year?

i guess 650/sqft...
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wow...that is fast considering no delay...

anyone guess the figure of selling price assuming will be launch on early of next year?

i guess 650/sqft...
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agree.....last year bj/kuchai/oug new condo pushing high from 320 to 500psf......this year till now some project balance still selling from 420 psf onwards.....new condo expected from 500 psf......next year maybe some balance of the project this year will sell from 600 psf and new condo next year early month may be 650psf.....very logic....but exsim selling point is green concept....thus walking distance to lrt will reduce the car used and increase their GBI rating? if yes then the price may be higher than 650psf.....sigh.....so all the future condo walking distance to lrt must be GBI in order to push the price higher.....
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Don't expect exsim to sell this so soon because they did not even participate in the last Mapex in midvalley.
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i heard rainz going to launch end of this year...is that true?

if true, what is the indicative price?
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i heard rainz going to launch end of this year...is that true?

if true, what is the indicative price?
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Why the address of Rainz is Bukit OUG and ZR is Bukit Jalil??? laugh.gif
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Any idea where is Twin Arkz??

Nowadays, heavy development in BJ.

The Rainz looks nice but I see blue more than green. Facade looks contemporary nice.

Anyhow, both design a bit look like office tower espcially Twin Arkz.

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Address under Bkt Oug? How come? ZR is under Bkt Jalil.

And it's true that looks more like office tower but anyway nice design, simple and elegance. Any idea when launching?


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jul 20 2012, 09:34 AM)
Any idea where is Twin Arkz??

Nowadays, heavy development in BJ.

The Rainz looks nice but I see blue more than green. Facade looks contemporary nice.

Anyhow, both design a bit look like office tower espcially Twin Arkz.
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Both from same designer..thats y looks alike..

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Address under Bkt Oug? How come? ZR is under Bkt Jalil.

And it's true that looks more like office tower but anyway nice design, simple and elegance. Any idea when launching?
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Bcz the title under Mukim Bkt OUG Daerah Petaling.

I think they are in the middle of converting the address to Bkt Jalil like KR1, KR2 and ZR did.

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Bcz the title under Mukim Bkt OUG Daerah Petaling.

I think they are in the middle of converting the address to Bkt Jalil like KR1, KR2 and ZR did.
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Noted bro, or else can't see people paying over 500/sqft for Bkt Oug address.

You got any news on this project like launching date/price/layout etc?
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Noted bro, or else can't see people paying over 500/sqft for Bkt Oug address.

You got any news on this project like launching date/price/layout etc?
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Haha. Today RM 500 / psf for Bkt OUG is expensive and overprice but when it launch next year, maybe ppl still buying.

Agree that Bkt Jalil sounds a lot much better. But if they name it Bkt OUG address, it would be quite funny bcz its neighbour KR1 and ZR name as Bkt Jalil.

Anyhow, its the location could be the main selling point.

The price is yet to confirm but I had been told, it is not cheap. I guess over RM 550 psf but I wont surprise if Exsim sells it more than RM 600 psf.



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Haha. Today RM 500 / psf for Bkt OUG is expensive and overprice but when it launch next year, maybe ppl still buying.

Agree that Bkt Jalil sounds a lot much better. But if they name it Bkt OUG address, it would be quite funny bcz its neighbour KR1 and ZR name as Bkt Jalil.

Anyhow, its the location could be the main selling point.

The price is yet to confirm but I had been told, it is not cheap. I guess over RM 550 psf but I wont surprise if Exsim sells it more than RM 600 psf.
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If over 600/sft, then the Jalil City is going to sell 700/sft later on? biggrin.gif
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rocket high nowadays the price... no idea how many ppl afford on tis kind of product??
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If over 600/sft, then the Jalil City is going to sell 700/sft later on?  biggrin.gif
That makes KR2/ZR like a bargain buy  thumbup.gif
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Haha. Lets see the response if they sells at RM 600 psf, if the demand is good then KR2/ZR is called very bargain buy ...

I am sure Jalil City price is much higher...

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looks nice. What is the average psf in Bukit Jalil for condo?
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i think the price would be 600k+ again?

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If over 600/sft, then the Jalil City is going to sell 700/sft later on?  biggrin.gif
That makes KR2/ZR like a bargain buy  thumbup.gif
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Malton may price it >RM800/sf
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do you all know that this developer is 1st timer which main core business is trading for building material , lifomax? still BBB?
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rocket high nowadays the price... no idea how many ppl afford on tis kind of product??
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BBB? cool2.gif
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do you all know that this developer is 1st timer which main core business is trading for building material ,  lifomax? still BBB?
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1st timer?
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1st timer?
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i dont think previously jalimax got start or completed any before the Treez
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Jul 20 2012, 02:09 PM)
i dont think previously jalimax got start or completed any before the Treez
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M talking bout Malton.
Ho Hup previous highrise was Jalil Damai
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M talking bout Malton.
Ho Hup previous highrise was Jalil Damai
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pardon, i thought u all are discussing the topic about The Threez by Jalilmax development. just to share my finding to u all
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Any developer that can offer better and better product (i.e. green, eco-friendly glass for apartments) should be given chance to prove themselves.

Awesome... and more awesomeness (oh mai god.. BJ wants to be Mont Kiara) coming soon.
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$800/sft? That will be premium but may set a new standard for BJ future developments. If this happen, congrats to all BJ purchasers.
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$800/sft? That will be premium but may set a new standard for BJ future developments. If this happen, congrats to all BJ purchasers.
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Very much possible Malton is going to build a mega mall like Pavillion in Bkt Jalil, expected larger than Mid Valley, great news to those vested in BJ
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with so many confirmed upcoming developments, this would not lesser than 700/sqft...anything below than 700/sqft for rainz and twin arkz is considered cheap...
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$800/sft? That will be premium but may set a new standard for BJ future developments. If this happen, congrats to all BJ purchasers.
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Malton JV with Equine and sells Da Men at RM 750-950 psf. Market pricing here at USJ1 only RM 450 psf.

While if BJ market pricing is RM 500 psf, I dont see any possibility they wont sell at RM 800 or close to RM 900 psf.

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if the news of malton going to launch for more than 800/sqft is ture, anytime rainz and twin arkz will going to launch for comparable price...

future of bj is incredible...

another attraction that many ppl might not realize is the lrt extention...this would be another higher boom...existing condo that near to existing lrt would also be beneficial and enjoy another higher gain...cant wait to see wat would happen in few years time...
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jul 20 2012, 07:41 PM)
Malton JV with Equine and sells Da Men at RM 750-950 psf. Market pricing here at USJ1 only RM 450 psf.

While if BJ market pricing is RM 500 psf, I dont see any possibility they wont sell at RM 800 or close to RM 900 psf.
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This is what I predict the master for Jalil City.

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If all the catalyst buildings in placed, RM800/sf no longer a dream. If my guess is right, Malton will construct a huge mall on a piece of 25 acres of land, Something like Pavillion would drive the property price all the way up!

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We have this in Bukit Jalil
Attached Image Lai Meng School
Attached Image Calvary Convention Centre (Church)
Attached Image Bukit Jalil Recreational Park
Attached Image Bkt Komanwel Recreational Park
Attached Image New LRT Station
Attached Image Tasik Selatan Train & Bus Terminal (Proximity)

Waiting for the last player to march in - Jaya Jusco

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holy shit. seriously? i had bought a malton property and I think the developer quite creative. Mega mall in bukit jalil. I better start paying attention
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holy shit. seriously? i had bought a malton property and I think the developer quite creative. Mega mall in bukit jalil. I better start paying attention
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another interesting part is not mega mall in bukit jalil, but is mega malls in bukit jalil... blush.gif
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QUOTE(user1984 @ Jul 20 2012, 08:26 PM)
another interesting part is not mega mall in bukit jalil, but is mega malls in bukit jalil... blush.gif
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Nice pics. I like the green one more .. thumbup.gif


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Megamall and Jaya Jusco is definitely what an I waiting for.

Great news for all those vested into BJ.



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This is what I predict the master for Jalil City.

Attached Image  

If all the catalyst buildings in placed, RM800/sf no longer a dream. If my guess is right, Malton will construct a huge mall on a piece of 25 acres of land, Something like Pavillion would drive the property price all the way up!

Attached Image


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We have this in Bukit Jalil
Attached Image Lai Meng School
Attached Image Calvary Convention Centre (Church)
Attached Image Bukit Jalil Recreational Park
Attached Image Bkt Komanwel Recreational Park
Attached Image New LRT Station
Attached Image Tasik Selatan Train & Bus Terminal (Proximity)

Waiting for the last player to march in - Jaya Jusco
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Anyone know how far Lai Meng will be from Parklane OUG, 3-4 kms? hmm.gif


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Anyone know how far Lai Meng will be from Parklane OUG, 3-4 kms?  hmm.gif
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Bout 1.8 km I think
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UFO taikor, I read somewhere that Ho Hup court case with Malton already settled and One Jalil City is confirmed. but when is launching date of units and when will the mall opens? This is one jalil city, right? Where is the other mall by WCT?
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This supposed to be the upcoming Berjaya project in the heart of Bukit Jalil....


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This supposed to be the upcoming Berjaya project in the heart of Bukit Jalil....
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Berjaya, Malton, Ho Hup and WCT.
which one? i am confused. huhu
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Berjaya, Malton, Ho Hup and WCT.
which one? i am confused. huhu
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i just got back from bj. is the one jalil city the one in front of The treez and got Ho Hup logo on it?
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i just got back from bj. is the one jalil city the one in front of The treez and got Ho Hup logo on it?
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Still actively shopping huh ... So optimistic on property market future meh?
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Still actively shopping huh ... So optimistic on property market future meh?
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ppl buying property is to secure themself in the future...ppl especailly chinese willing to spend few hundred k into prop investment is not only because of the optimistic thinking, but realising that this is one of the best investment...unless u can think of other oppportunity to earn and secure yr money and future...
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Still actively shopping huh ... So optimistic on property market future meh?
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nkhong, i am quite optimistic on property market. but i am buying based on my financial status. we should not chew more than we can eat. plus i am letting go my puchong girlfriend very soon. smile.gif
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Still actively shopping huh ... So optimistic on property market future meh?
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Property mkt will crash 30% tomolo, so how much do you want to sell yr Covillea? 400K? brows.gif
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nkhong, i am quite optimistic on property market. but i am buying based on my financial status. we should not chew more than we can eat. plus i am letting go my puchong girlfriend very soon. smile.gif
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Property mkt will crash 30% tomolo, so how much do you want to sell yr Covillea? 400K? brows.gif
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Wow, down 30% very hard to sell la, need to buy to average instead of sell tongue.gif ...
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Property mkt will crash 30% tomolo, so how much do you want to sell yr Covillea? 400K? brows.gif
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Crash to 29% already is good buy
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Jul 21 2012, 06:40 PM)
I lost one rich neighbour aledi  cry.gif  ......  Lost one rich man aura already ..
Wow, down 30% very hard to sell la, need to buy to average instead of sell  tongue.gif  ...
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hahah. no la. i thought u got a unit in alam impian also. come and join me la. smile.gif
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Or probably getting Rain, the korean singer first to come. "Haiii, nama saya Rain"
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haha...but may be the Korean singer Rain reject to come so no Rainz jor
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Haha. If that is the case, probably we just get our local band, Hujan to come. kekeke
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no more update to this first timer Lifomax building material trading company 1st development profile?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1508841/+60
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I don't think not so fast. They had just launched their Twin Arkz and yet to be fully sold or near it.

They are yet to complete their first ever most exp condo in BJ, The Treez. The Leafz not yet fully sold.

The developer can't be too gung ho and launch another The Rainz urgently where the back up of bank financing would be strictly pull off if they had breached the finance limit for Exsim Group since they were more understand their financial than us, selling price against market value and most importantly, the sales progress.



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After Twin Arkz...
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Heard twin arkz sold out alrerady... any news on this?
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Really?

Suddenly this 1-2 months into 2013, so many people flood into BJ to buy TAz, KM 1 West and KR2?



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Really?

Suddenly this 1-2 months into 2013, so many people flood into BJ to buy TAz, KM 1 West and KR2?
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Twin Arkz sold some 80%, according to the head of property for this project:

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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...21&sec=metrobiz
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Twin Arkz sold some 80%, according to the head of property for this project:

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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...21&sec=metrobiz
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Too many investors. Heard 30% contra to the Calvary Church Members but it doesn't enough seems and the church members also buy TAz.

80% sales is quite secured for TAz dy even though the units are not much, definitely bringing the outlook of the whole BJ.

But, let's all these people able to secured loan first. I have 2 frens buying TAz but problematic getting loan and lack of financing available.


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Jz received news stated that Sunrise Charm Sdn Bhd (a member of Exsim Group) will launch The Rainz@Bukit OUG in Feb 2014.

I think soft launch maybe end of this year. smile.gif
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Jun 6 2013, 09:27 PM)
Jz received news stated that Sunrise Charm Sdn Bhd (a member of Exsim Group) will launch The Rainz@Bukit OUG in Feb 2014.

I think soft launch maybe end of this year. smile.gif
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Wow, great news... surely will be more expensive than Twin Arkz?
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how come d SA dim call me? but now I focus on Petalz smile.gif
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Wow, great news... surely will be more expensive than Twin Arkz?
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Haha....i dun think expensive than Twin Arkz lah.....

Twin Arkz 300++ units only where The Rainz got 800++ units, I think the most can go is 600psf.

I heard around 500psf and all unit size > 1400sf. biggrin.gif

The funny thing is they called this project as The Rainz@Bukit OUG, where the neighbor called ZR@bukit Jalil & KR1,KR2@bukit Jalil. hmm.gif
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where is the location of this project ?
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The small plot of land btw KR1 and Z Residence. The land also facing Kesas Highway ( near Toll ) and facing current Bkt OUG Condo.
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Where got fast? Suppose this year launch, but instead, they launched Twin Arkz first and after that, they now going to launch the Petalz ahead of this the Rainz.

Indicative Feb 2014, which is still another 8 months to go. Maybe will delay or so.

But its better if they delay it bcz KR1 and ZR both VP next year. And The Treez shouldhave VP by then, so ppl more confidence.

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Jz wait ... more news to come... biggrin.gif
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That locationn not bad, is near to LRT . Hope that can hear from Exsim soon. where i can find more detail about this project ? Hope that can own a house at Bukit Jalil
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Haha....i dun think expensive than Twin Arkz lah.....

Twin Arkz 300++ units only where The Rainz got 800++ units, I think the most can go is 600psf.

I heard around 500psf and all unit size > 1400sf.  biggrin.gif

The funny thing is they called this project as The Rainz@Bukit OUG, where the neighbor called ZR@bukit Jalil & KR1,KR2@bukit Jalil. hmm.gif
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potentially this place will be another mont kiara.. alot of high rise condo.
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potentially this place will be another mont kiara.. alot of high rise condo.
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Year 2013 : The Petalz@OKR 650-750psf 565units (bfore preview, most ppl est 550-580psf)

Year 2014 hmm.gif The Rainz.......psf? 800units

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Rainz will help the condo price around there to another height. Current market value for new condo is around 450 psf. I guess this project will be around 500 psf. The price will decided by the size of unit as well. But based on 1000 square unit, 500 psf is possible.

Untung lar zr, kr and kr 2...

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As mentioned by UFO kor, Malton might plan to launch their Bukit Jalil at RM900 psf... I think Exsim can out-do RM1,000 psf for The Rainz!!!

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Rainz will help the condo price around there to another height. Current market value for new condo is around 450 psf. I guess this project will be around 500 psf. The price will decided by the size of unit as well. But based on 1000 square unit, 500 psf is possible.

Untung lar zr, kr and kr 2...
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new condo market price now at dat area is already min 520psft liao la --> z residence.

if rainz selling 500psft then sure rampas in first hour? maybe habis dirampas internal, no need pre view liao^^
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new condo market price now at dat area is already min 520psft liao la --> z residence.

if rainz selling 500psft then sure rampas in first hour? maybe habis dirampas internal, no need pre view liao^^
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Agree. won't be 500psf

OMG ohmy.gif One out-do the other.... buyers die la like that...

The gap so huge current mkt 520psf vs 900psf/1,000psf shocking.gif
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We must be careful with Bukit Jalil area. Seems like many new condo's will be on the market soon and we dont know subsale demand yet. Many of those buying are for investment not on stay and that makes it more risky. Right now everybody is talkin about developers price. Nobody really knows for sure what banks will valuate subsale. This is key. If banks dont have confidence, then loan margins will be lower and when loans are lower, this will be a huge put off for potential investors. Banks now are getting more n more cautious. There are already articles online talking about Bukit Jalil condos being overpriced in reference to Treez, KM1 East, Twin Arkz, etc.

I also just found out that for Regalia Condo off Jln Sultan Ismail, banks are now starting to valuate about 90-100K lower than advertised pricing compared to a few months ago where buyers could get much higher. Im also seeing this trend in other developments also. I think the banks know something which we dont. When banks valuations start dropping, we have to be cautious. Thats why for Bukit Jalil areas, its important that you invest in units that are well below the benchmark pricing for that area. KR1 subsale prices will be a yardstick for Bukit Jalil when owners start to flip.
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We must be careful with Bukit Jalil area. Seems like many new condo's will be on the market soon and we dont know subsale demand yet. Many of those buying are for investment not on stay and that makes it more risky. Right now everybody is talkin about developers price. Nobody really knows for sure what banks will valuate subsale. This is key. If banks dont have confidence, then loan margins will be lower and when loans are lower, this will be a huge put off for potential investors. Banks now are getting more n more cautious. There are already articles online talking about Bukit Jalil condos being overpriced in reference to Treez, KM1 East, Twin Arkz, etc.

I also just found out that for Regalia Condo off Jln Sultan Ismail, banks are now starting to valuate about 90-100K lower than advertised pricing compared to a few months ago where buyers could get much higher. Im also seeing this trend in other developments also. I think the banks know something which we dont. When banks valuations start dropping, we have to be cautious. Thats why for Bukit Jalil areas, its important that you invest in units that are well below the benchmark pricing for that area. KR1 subsale prices will be a yardstick for Bukit Jalil when owners start to flip.
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But the buyers won't listen, especially properties from developers ( verses subsale ). We are seeing a gap between developers sales vs subsale now. We have to see this gap widen more and more, then eventually developers sales will be impacted. Not at this moment.
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Bitter mouth grandma's heart ( 苦口婆心!Kekeke)

But the buyers won't listen, especially properties from developers ( verses subsale ). We are seeing a gap between developers sales vs subsale now. We have to see this gap widen more and more, then eventually developers sales will be impacted. Not at this moment.
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The gap is just a warm up. Next year would be starting and eventually the game sets on next 2-3 years time.

Many new buyers influence by the recent results of every prop is going to increase by 30% min. Hence, they do not want to miss any and try to secure at least one.

Meanwhile, it had been a habit for most smart owners whete in certain prime area prop, they will ask the price higher than current market value hence most of the deals are stalled. These ppl also pointing that, the next door or surrounding developement is cost much higher and trying to near it.

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Rainz will help the condo price around there to another height. Current market value for new condo is around 450 psf. I guess this project will be around 500 psf. The price will decided by the size of unit as well. But based on 1000 square unit, 500 psf is possible.

Untung lar zr, kr and kr 2...
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The current market value of these Bkt OUG new series aka Bkt Jalil is hard to define its actual market value bfore KR1 subsale kicks off.

This series have to thanks for being a family of Bkt Jalil enclave once the proposed road linked from Jln 1/155B. And the indication of KM 1 West, Treez, Covillea, Savannahs and KR2, ZR weigh in as comparison with its huge demand.

KM1 West indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
The Treez indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
Covillea valued at RM 550-580 psf as at May 2013.

KR1 last unit sold at btw RM 470-525 psf ( 1067-1454 sq ft)
ZR latest units sold at btw RM 480-560 psf ( 1000-1400 sq ft )
KR2 latest units sold at btw RM 460-510 psf ( 1076-1490 sq ft)

I reckon the indication of KR1-ZR as at RM 500 psf max. Shouldnt be naive of RM 450 psf ( except big units of 1400 sq ft onwards ) esp during VPing.

With KR2 and ZR sales of above pricing indicated of almost fully sold out and the pricing of Bdr Kinrara value had been increased from RM 360-400 psf last year to Rm 430-480 psf, in the affordable market bracket, couple with OUG / Kuchai Lama / Sri Petaling all transacted above RM 500 psf.

Exsim's products always a special in terms of concept but also pricing esp Twin Arkz, The Treez and The Petalz, all were self contained Green products sold at 20-30% above the prevailed market.

With their gamble on Twin Arkz and The Petalz paid off amd secured sales status of Petalz, Exsim is gonna have much confident on similar the Rainz, which I rank it much better range and location than Petalz.
If KR2 ( being the nearest concept and end living to Rainz ) secured most of their units at ave RM 500 psf without launch and advertise. I assume Exsim would preview its the Rainz at 25% higher than prevail market, at RM 625 psf nett.

The Petalz surprise package of RM 600+ psf can sold well at the other world of Jln Klang Lama, I dont surprise Exsim will give us another heart attack, the benchmark pricing next year.
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The current market value of these Bkt OUG new series aka Bkt Jalil is hard to define its actual market value bfore KR1 subsale kicks off.

This series have to thanks for being a family of Bkt Jalil enclave once the proposed road linked from Jln 1/155B. And the indication of KM 1 West, Treez, Covillea, Savannahs and KR2, ZR weigh in as comparison with its huge demand.

KM1 West indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
The Treez indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
Covillea valued at RM 550-580 psf as at May 2013.

KR1 last unit sold at btw RM 470-525 psf ( 1067-1454 sq ft)
ZR latest units sold at btw RM 480-560 psf ( 1000-1400 sq ft )
KR2 latest units sold at btw RM 460-510 psf ( 1076-1490 sq ft)

I reckon the indication of KR1-ZR as at RM 500 psf max. Shouldnt be naive of RM 450 psf ( except big units of 1400 sq ft onwards ) esp during VPing.

With KR2 and ZR sales of above pricing indicated of almost fully sold out and the pricing of Bdr Kinrara value had been increased from RM 360-400 psf last year to Rm 430-480 psf, in the affordable market bracket, couple with OUG / Kuchai Lama / Sri Petaling all transacted above RM 500 psf.

Exsim's products always a special in terms of concept but also pricing esp Twin Arkz, The Treez and The Petalz, all were self contained Green products sold at 20-30% above the prevailed market.

With their gamble on Twin Arkz and The Petalz paid off amd secured sales status of Petalz, Exsim is gonna have much confident on similar the Rainz, which I rank it much better range and location than Petalz.
If KR2 ( being the nearest concept and end living to Rainz ) secured most of their units at ave RM 500 psf without launch and advertise. I assume Exsim would preview its the Rainz at 25% higher than prevail market, at RM 625 psf nett.

The Petalz surprise package of RM 600+ psf can sold well at the other world of Jln Klang Lama, I dont surprise Exsim will give us another heart attack, the benchmark pricing next year.
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Taikor, you got interest on this? Wanna grab another one here?
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Taikor, you got interest on this? Wanna grab another one here?
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Got interest into their concept but my pocket no interest at all.

My max limit for a highrise is RM 500 psf. If next year, maybe increase to no higher than RM 550 psf. I more keen into landed now unless got special deal or found a higrise gem.


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Got interest into their concept but my pocket no interest at all.

My max limit for a highrise is RM 500 psf. If next year, maybe increase to no higher than RM 550 psf. I more keen into landed now unless got special deal or found a higrise gem.
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Landed house at around KV or just BJ vicinity? I found BJ landed hard to swallow, all asking like semi-d price...lol.
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The current market value of these Bkt OUG new series aka Bkt Jalil is hard to define its actual market value bfore KR1 subsale kicks off.

This series have to thanks for being a family of Bkt Jalil enclave once the proposed road linked from Jln 1/155B. And the indication of KM 1 West, Treez, Covillea, Savannahs and KR2, ZR weigh in as comparison with its huge demand.

KM1 West indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
The Treez indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
Covillea valued at RM 550-580 psf as at May 2013.

KR1 last unit sold at btw RM 470-525 psf ( 1067-1454 sq ft)
ZR latest units sold at btw RM 480-560 psf ( 1000-1400 sq ft )
KR2 latest units sold at btw RM 460-510 psf ( 1076-1490 sq ft)

I reckon the indication of KR1-ZR as at RM 500 psf max. Shouldnt be naive of RM 450 psf ( except big units of 1400 sq ft onwards ) esp during VPing.

With KR2 and ZR sales of above pricing indicated of almost fully sold out and the pricing of Bdr Kinrara value had been increased from RM 360-400 psf last year to Rm 430-480 psf, in the affordable market bracket, couple with OUG / Kuchai Lama / Sri Petaling all transacted above RM 500 psf.

Exsim's products always a special in terms of concept but also pricing esp Twin Arkz, The Treez and The Petalz, all were self contained Green products sold at 20-30% above the prevailed market.

With their gamble on Twin Arkz and The Petalz paid off amd secured sales status of Petalz, Exsim is gonna have much confident on similar the Rainz, which I rank it much better range and location than Petalz.
If KR2 ( being the nearest concept and end living to Rainz ) secured most of their units at ave RM 500 psf without launch and advertise. I assume Exsim would preview its the Rainz at 25% higher than prevail market, at RM 625 psf nett.

The Petalz surprise package of RM 600+ psf can sold well at the other world of Jln Klang Lama, I dont surprise Exsim will give us another heart attack, the benchmark pricing next year.
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Landed house at around KV or just BJ vicinity? I found BJ landed hard to swallow, all asking like semi-d price...lol.
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Around KV, might extend to Johor. Hehe.

BJ landed only my wish but couldnt afford the 1.4m price tag. Its good in liquidity but I dont want to have high equity on the BJ or any high price landed I newly bought. ( 60%- 70% loan and wait for 3-5 years ) unless for own stay.

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Around KV, might extend to Johor. Hehe.

BJ landed only my wish but couldnt afford the 1.4m price tag. Its good in liquidity but I dont want to have high equity on the BJ or any high price landed I newly bought. ( 60%- 70% loan and wait for 3-5 years ) unless for own stay.

I only looking at below RM 800k landed. Not too hurry on it.
Let me know if you come across any new developments for landed property in that price range.
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Around KV, might extend to Johor. Hehe.

BJ landed only my wish but couldnt afford the 1.4m price tag. Its good in liquidity but I dont want to have high equity on the BJ or any high price landed I newly bought. ( 60%- 70% loan and wait for 3-5 years ) unless for own stay.

I only looking at below RM 800k landed. Not too hurry on it.
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Nvm la...KR2 is a good place to stay, maybe you should grab a terrace unit in KR2 as it will feels like a landed too biggrin.gif

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The current market value of these Bkt OUG new series aka Bkt Jalil is hard to define its actual market value bfore KR1 subsale kicks off.

This series have to thanks for being a family of Bkt Jalil enclave once the proposed road linked from Jln 1/155B. And the indication of KM 1 West, Treez, Covillea, Savannahs and KR2, ZR weigh in as comparison with its huge demand.

KM1 West indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
The Treez indicated at RM 570-600 psf.
Covillea valued at RM 550-580 psf as at May 2013.

KR1 last unit sold at btw RM 470-525 psf ( 1067-1454 sq ft)
ZR latest units sold at btw RM 480-560 psf ( 1000-1400 sq ft )
KR2 latest units sold at btw RM 460-510 psf ( 1076-1490 sq ft)

I reckon the indication of KR1-ZR as at RM 500 psf max. Shouldnt be naive of RM 450 psf ( except big units of 1400 sq ft onwards ) esp during VPing.

With KR2 and ZR sales of above pricing indicated of almost fully sold out and the pricing of Bdr Kinrara value had been increased from RM 360-400 psf last year to Rm 430-480 psf, in the affordable market bracket, couple with OUG / Kuchai Lama / Sri Petaling all transacted above RM 500 psf.

Exsim's products always a special in terms of concept but also pricing esp Twin Arkz, The Treez and The Petalz, all were self contained Green products sold at 20-30% above the prevailed market.

With their gamble on Twin Arkz and The Petalz paid off amd secured sales status of Petalz, Exsim is gonna have much confident on similar the Rainz, which I rank it much better range and location than Petalz.
If KR2 ( being the nearest concept and end living to Rainz ) secured most of their units at ave RM 500 psf without launch and advertise. I assume Exsim would preview its the Rainz at 25% higher than prevail market, at RM 625 psf nett.

The Petalz surprise package of RM 600+ psf can sold well at the other world of Jln Klang Lama, I dont surprise Exsim will give us another heart attack, the benchmark pricing next year.
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Dear Chris Chew, very good analyse, thumbup.gif surprise to see KR1 psf is higher than KR2, if this Exsim's product Rainz also getting BBB mode I believe the condo price in Bkt Jalil will be pushing to another new record. But how do you view in terms of the supply and demand with a sudden surge of many new condo being completed in 2015 & 2016? More intense competition from the Zest, KR1 & KR2 & how long for the market to consume all these units unsure.gif

If the Rainz is selling at RM625 psf, say average build up of 1000 sf unit selling at RM625k, I believe this price still is very attractive, maybe they can sell higher than RM625 psf with Exsim adding some USP into their project which they are very good at this.

Now Chris looking into Iskandar area already flex.gif time to move on to other undervalued gem drool.gif


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Dear Chris Chew, very good analyse,  thumbup.gif surprise to see KR1 psf is higher than KR2, if this Exsim's product Rainz also getting BBB mode I believe the condo price in Bkt Jalil will be pushing to another new record. But how do you view in terms of the supply and demand with a sudden surge of many new condo being completed in 2015 & 2016? More intense competition from the Zest, KR1 & KR2 & how long for the market to consume all these units  unsure.gif

If the Rainz is selling at RM625 psf, say average build up of 1000 sf unit selling at RM625k, I believe this price still is very attractive, maybe they can sell higher than RM625 psf with Exsim adding some USP into their project which they are very good at this.

Now Chris looking into Iskandar area already  flex.gif  time to move on to other undervalued gem  drool.gif
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It will be interesting to see in this area how the demand could digest the big big supply. Rainz is not the end of the supply. There will be a lot more after rainz.
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It will be interesting to see in this area how the demand could digest the big big supply. Rainz is not the end of the supply. There will be a lot more after rainz.
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Dear Chris Chew, very good analyse,  thumbup.gif surprise to see KR1 psf is higher than KR2, if this Exsim's product Rainz also getting BBB mode I believe the condo price in Bkt Jalil will be pushing to another new record. But how do you view in terms of the supply and demand with a sudden surge of many new condo being completed in 2015 & 2016? More intense competition from the Zest, KR1 & KR2 & how long for the market to consume all these units  unsure.gif

If the Rainz is selling at RM625 psf, say average build up of 1000 sf unit selling at RM625k, I believe this price still is very attractive, maybe they can sell higher than RM625 psf with Exsim adding some USP into their project which they are very good at this.

Now Chris looking into Iskandar area already  flex.gif  time to move on to other undervalued gem  drool.gif
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It's not surprise because KR1 and ZR's prices are latest transacted price after few rounds of increased.

KR2 priced stated by me above was one round before them and yet to have any new round of new increased price due to fully booked and yet to released. The developer's loan rejected units will be open later stage with further increased price. Technically it will be higher than KR1 but it will be slightly lower / equal with ZR, whom offer higher discount but without DIBS.

The surge of highrise completed in Bkt Jalil is quite heavily with supply in coming years for sure, but if we based on the scale of development and period of the VP, it do not shown much terrible sign of over supply of course. Gues, I gotta repeat and repeat again.

KR1 and ZR would be a competitor to each other next year 2014, separated by few months only and KR1 takes the pluinge for being enter into the sub sale market first before the multi units of ZR.

The Treez is at another bracket of pricing condo and effectively, it is a direct competitor to KM 1 West. I don't see it creates much impact on the potential buyers who looking at KR1 or ZR, except sizes over 1400 sq feet. So, 2014 is gonna be heat year of the Bkt Jalil highrises.

KR2 enter the frame by late late 2015, could be a decisive timing due to the proposed road of Jln 1/155B shall be opened and light up the whole street ( double lanes each traffic ) and it only faces the competition of Twin Arkz about 6 months later on, who is much higher price range than KR2 by ( RM 400+ psf vs RM 600+ psf ), thus I dont see it's face to face directly but TAz, instead, would face much critical timing together with luxurier KM 1 East, being the only project with no unit is cheaper than RM 1 mil today.

Meanwhile, The Rainz only could launch by next year, tentatively early 2014, also a indication that could be drag to middle 2014 and estimated completion by 2017, which is timely very good at VP at 1 year + after the completion of KR2.

I not much worried of the KR1, KR2 and ZR bracket where the early buyers who all obatined the very low and affordable pricing yet with freebies and easily able to hold on for rental or vacant for longer. Furthermore, I suspect those buyers of this brackets are more to an owner stay buyer rather than the likes of KM 1 West, KM 1 East, The Treez and Twin Arkz, all these range could be a hinge to Malton's new luxury service apartment.

It's look terrific number of supply here by 2014 but if we look into the date of completion for each project, the pocket of the each development, the bracket of the each sub-sales price upon VP, the buffer of appreciation of each development, the timing of each project's completion, and the various of sizes of each condo / apartment, vs the timing btw 2014-2017, vs the catalyst vs the other surrounded area vs the unknown market ....
we are having the far more less worry than those enter at RM 600 psf today.



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It's look terrific number of supply here by 2014 but if we look into the date of completion for each project, the pocket of the each development, the bracket of the each sub-sales price upon VP, the buffer of appreciation of each development, the timing of each project's completion, and the various of sizes of each condo / apartment, vs the timing btw 2014-2017, vs the catalyst vs the other surrounded area vs the unknown market ....
we are having the far more less worry than those enter at RM 600 psf today.
My entry price at KR2 was RM 435 & 440 psf after discount. biggrin.gif
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It's not surprise because KR1 and ZR's prices are latest transacted price after few rounds of increased.

KR2 priced stated by me above was one round before them and yet to have any new round of new increased price due to fully booked and yet to released. The developer's loan rejected units will be open later stage with further increased price. Technically it will be higher than KR1 but it will be slightly lower / equal with ZR, whom offer higher discount but without DIBS.

The surge of highrise completed in Bkt Jalil is quite heavily with supply in coming years for sure, but if we based on the scale of development and period of the VP, it do not shown much terrible sign of over supply of course. Gues, I gotta repeat and repeat again.

KR1 and ZR would be a competitor to each other next year 2014, separated by few months only and KR1 takes the pluinge for being enter into the sub sale market first before the multi units of ZR.

The Treez is at another bracket of pricing condo and effectively, it is a direct competitor to KM 1 West. I don't see it creates much impact on the potential buyers who looking at KR1 or ZR, except sizes over 1400 sq feet. So, 2014 is gonna be heat year of the Bkt Jalil highrises.

KR2 enter the frame by late late 2015, could be a decisive timing due to the proposed road of Jln 1/155B shall be opened and light up the whole street ( double lanes each traffic ) and it only faces the competition of Twin Arkz about 6 months later on, who is much higher price range than KR2 by ( RM 400+ psf vs RM 600+ psf ), thus I dont see it's face to face directly but TAz, instead, would face much critical timing together with luxurier KM 1 East, being the only project with no unit is cheaper than RM 1 mil today.

Meanwhile, The Rainz only could launch by next year, tentatively early 2014, also a indication that could be drag to middle 2014 and estimated completion by 2017, which is timely very good at VP at 1 year + after the completion of KR2.

I not much worried of the KR1, KR2 and ZR bracket where the early buyers who all obatined the very low and affordable pricing yet with freebies and easily able to hold on for rental or vacant for longer. Furthermore, I suspect those buyers of this brackets are more to an owner stay buyer rather than the likes of KM 1 West, KM 1 East, The Treez and Twin Arkz, all these range could be a hinge to Malton's new luxury service apartment.

It's look terrific number of supply here by 2014 but if we look into the date of completion for each project, the pocket of the each development, the bracket of the each sub-sales price upon VP, the buffer of appreciation of each development, the timing of each project's completion, and the various of sizes of each condo / apartment, vs the timing btw 2014-2017, vs the catalyst vs the other surrounded area vs the unknown market ....
we are having the far more less worry than those enter at RM 600 psf today.
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You don't seem to include OUG Parklane and existing old condos.

OUG Parklane cannot be ignored due to it's high supply and lower price range.

The humongous supply is a big continuum with overlapping market coverage. It's not so easy to draw clear demarcation lines among them.

If the market demand softens, high priced goods will have to compete with lower priced goods.
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You don't seem to include OUG Parklane and existing old condos.

OUG Parklane cannot be ignored due to it's high supply and lower price range.

The humongous supply is a big continuum with overlapping market coverage. It's not so easy to draw clear demarcation lines among them.

If the market demand softens, high priced goods will have to compete with lower priced goods.
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We only look at within an industry.

How the negative impact of global economy cycle or domestic economy cycle would affect domestic dd & ss of property industry? Hence, the price of the property?

Touch wood. Worst case scenario will the impact similar or worst than 2008/09? Started 2008, currently the 6th year, will it happen in the 7th or 8th or 9th year?
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You don't seem to include OUG Parklane and existing old condos.

OUG Parklane cannot be ignored due to it's high supply and lower price range.

The humongous supply is a big continuum with overlapping market coverage. It's not so easy to draw clear demarcation lines among them.

If the market demand softens, high priced goods will have to compete with lower priced goods.
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For me, OUG Parklane is near Bkt OUG / Bkt Jalil enclave, but it's belong to the world of Jalan Puchong / Kelang Lama aka OUG / Tmn Tan Yew Lai, separated by a Kesas Highway.

Furthermore, the low prices ( close to RM 300 psf for early buyers to RM 400 psf for current buyers ) and the concept of these low medium end apartments do not have much impact for the prospects who looking at those KR1, KR2 and ZR ( maybe, but small unit of 10xx sq feet ), need not to mention to those heavyweight of KM 1 West, East, Treez and Twin Arkz or upcoming Rainz.

If I have to include OUG Parklane 4000+ units as a direct competitor, then it would be a topic of highrises supply in whole KV and not BJ as I mentioned and I would have to include the affordable 5000 units of RM 180-230k Setia Alam apartments as well as range to much expensive than KM 1 West at Ara Damansara's several highrises and skip to Cyberjaya expected few x 10000 SOHOs, apartments and condos. It's all within KV.

I myself from Subang Jaya, I never rule out myself to move to Bdr Kinrara, or Damai Residence or Alam Impian ( landed, all these under same range of prop prices ) or Bkt Jalil ( highrise and if possible, landed ) or even to sacrifice few of my creeps and go to one of my fave at the North KL, the Desa Park City.

Indeed I am very much agree that the rapid supply of the highrises or even landed with definitely overlapping the market coverage from A-Z.
Ex. A 1000 sq feet medium condo is selling RM 500k now and a 22x75 landed is selling RM 750k now, in 2-3 years time, if the market soften heavily, I don't 100% believe that the landed can appreciate RM 950k due to hot demand ( well, certain I believe ) while the condo is only stagnant at RM 500k. When the market soften in the whole KV, not only highrises are hit, but also applicable to all the landed which cost higher than RM 800-900k now.





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You don't seem to include OUG Parklane and existing old condos.

OUG Parklane cannot be ignored due to it's high supply and lower price range.

The humongous supply is a big continuum with overlapping market coverage. It's not so easy to draw clear demarcation lines among them.

If the market demand softens, high priced goods will have to compete with lower priced goods.
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A single guy with monthly salary 1.5k to 2.5k will choose to rent a small room in bukit oug condo with Rm 300 without air con.

A single guy with monthly salary 2.5k to 4k will choose to rent a small room in parklane oug with Rm 400 with air con.

A single guy with monthly salary 4k to 7k will choose to rent a small room in kr1,kr2,the z,rainz with RM 700 with air con n facilities.

All high rise are Targeting tenants from different need and affortability. Tenant who enjoy life will only goes for luxury,tenant who want save money and dont need air con always go for bukit oug.
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For me, OUG Parklane is near Bkt OUG / Bkt Jalil enclave, but it's belong to the world of Jalan Puchong / Kelang Lama aka OUG / Tmn Tan Yew Lai, separated by a Kesas Highway.

Furthermore, the low prices ( close to RM 300 psf for early buyers to RM 400 psf for current buyers ) and the concept of these low medium end apartments do not have much impact for the prospects who looking at those KR1, KR2 and ZR ( maybe, but small unit of 10xx sq feet ), need not to mention to those heavyweight of KM 1 West, East, Treez and Twin Arkz or upcoming Rainz.

If I have to include OUG Parklane 4000+ units as a direct competitor, then it would be a topic of highrises supply in whole KV and not BJ as I mentioned and I would have to include the affordable 5000 units of RM 180-230k Setia Alam apartments as well as range to much expensive than KM 1 West at Ara Damansara's several highrises and skip to Cyberjaya expected few x 10000 SOHOs, apartments and condos. It's all within KV.

I myself from Subang Jaya, I never rule out myself to move to Bdr Kinrara, or Damai Residence or Alam Impian ( landed, all these under same range of prop prices ) or Bkt Jalil ( highrise and if possible, landed ) or even to sacrifice few of my creeps and go to one of my fave at the North KL, the Desa Park City.

Indeed I am very much agree that the rapid supply of the highrises or even landed with definitely overlapping the market coverage from A-Z.
Ex. A 1000 sq feet medium condo is selling RM 500k now and a 22x75 landed is selling RM 750k now, in 2-3 years time, if the market soften heavily, I don't 100% believe that the landed can appreciate RM 950k due to hot demand ( well, certain I believe ) while the condo is only stagnant at RM 500k. When the market soften in the whole KV, not only highrises are hit, but also applicable to all the landed which cost higher than RM 800-900k now.
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I just want to mention that from OUG Parklane to Z-residence is shorter distance than twin arkz to green avenue. So classifying OUG Parklane outside of this continuum is something I don't quite agree.
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A single guy with monthly salary 1.5k to 2.5k will choose to rent a small room in bukit oug condo with Rm 300 without air con.

A single guy with monthly salary 2.5k to 4k will choose to rent a small room in parklane oug with Rm 400 with air con.

A single guy with monthly salary 4k to 7k will choose to rent a small room in kr1,kr2,the z,rainz with RM 700 with air con n facilities.

All high rise are Targeting tenants from different need and affortability. Tenant who enjoy life will only goes for luxury,tenant who want save money and dont need air con always go for bukit oug.
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I hope you are right about this simple demarcation.

If market demand softens and there is oversupply of condos, there is nothing to stop OUG parklane to compete directly with Bukit OUG, for example.

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A single guy with monthly salary 1.5k to 2.5k will choose to rent a small room in bukit oug condo with Rm 300 without air con.

A single guy with monthly salary 2.5k to 4k will choose to rent a small room in parklane oug with Rm 400 with air con.

A single guy with monthly salary 4k to 7k will choose to rent a small room in kr1,kr2,the z,rainz with RM 700 with air con n facilities.

All high rise are Targeting tenants from different need and affortability. Tenant who enjoy life will only goes for luxury,tenant who want save money and dont need air con always go for bukit oug.
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Haha...why rent room at B.OUG must without air-con neh?

Why monthly income 2.5k ~ 4k cannot rent room at b.oug, must die-2 rent room at oug parklane? biggrin.gif
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Why suddenly so hot over here?

Dato Chris give speech here also never invite me to listen?

Luckily i masuk to see what happening here.

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I hope you are right about this simple demarcation.

If market demand softens and there is oversupply of condos, there is nothing to stop OUG parklane to compete directly with Bukit OUG, for example.
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It's part of the truth where there are too many probabilities which we are unable to define and expect but just prepare to face the market.

If the market demand really soften up and heavy of oversupply of condos in the next 1-2-3 years, I think OUG Parklane has the very very high potential to hit the rock down the road due to the total number of the units are 4000+, which brings even more numbers of NPL and greater % of non occupancy units. Very fierce competition against each other and large chunk of number buyers who do not have great holding power due to easy entry of 10% discount.


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Dato Chris give speech here also never invite me to listen?

Luckily i masuk to see what happening here.

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It's part of the truth where there are too many probabilities which we are unable to define and expect but just prepare to face the market.

If the market demand really soften up and heavy of oversupply of condos in the next 1-2-3 years, I think OUG Parklane has the very very high potential to hit the rock down the road due to the total number of the units are 4000+, which brings even more numbers of NPL and greater % of non occupancy units. Very fierce competition against each other and large chunk of number buyers who do not have great holding power due to easy entry of 10% discount.
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What I want to ask is that, if there is oversupply of condos in the next 1-3 year, in the OUG/Bukit Jalil area specifically, is it going to affect the lower end, the higher end or the mid range ?

Somehow I feel that lower end market is more resilient because their market demand is bigger and their holding cost is lower. Just my gut feel.
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Aiyo...Mah tai luo.....sudah lama u din give speech.....must contribute something mah..... biggrin.gif
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bukit jalil will be township by itself with all the infrastructure roads and LRT ,malls, schools and universities coming into place. It will definitely a place to bet now.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 2 2013, 03:06 PM)
What I want to ask is that, if there is oversupply of condos in the next 1-3 year, in the OUG/Bukit Jalil area specifically, is it going to affect the lower end, the higher end or the mid range ?

Somehow I feel that lower end market is more resilient because their market demand is bigger and their holding cost is lower. Just my gut feel.
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Perhaps, I am not the best master to predict what will happen in the property market and outlook next few years down the road. LOL.

For me, if solely based on Bkt Jalil / OUG area, if the property market downturn and somehow supply overly than demand, I guess it would be high end condo. And basically, low end condos and low prices condo would not hit much due to higher demands like you said, but in BJ, the supply creates from the info I dig below.

I still believe medium end condo in the range of 1000-1200 sq feet should be much less risk due to absorbable price point and size point in coming years.

But in another aspects, size 1000-1100 sq feet ono have the most units available in the sub-sales market upon all the current on-going projects completed. It makes me jump to preference of 1200-1400 sq feet units.

Such as, ZR, KR1 ( almost 50% of KR1 is 10xx - 1110 sq feet ) and KR2 ( almost 50% of KR2 is 1076 - 1100 sq feet ) and these condos size were within the same range ( size and price ) with those late buyers of OUG Parklane. Thus it may creates a feasible of comparison for subsale buyers where early buyers of KR1 and ZR ( at RM 300 psf ) can easily compete with those OUG Parklane ( same range ) in difficulty period.

Meanwhile, for the medium big size of 1400 sq feet where ZR holds less than 20% at approx 200+ units, KR1 ( 96 units out of 360 units ) and KR2 holds 144 units out of 720 units. It may creates a comparison to those who may add on a bit and consider KM 1 West's 1335 sq feet as well as The Treez's 1400 sq feet, where all these are asking RM 630-690 per sq feet, the current asking price before VP against the RM 400-450 psf of the trio above which going to VP by 2014 Q1 & Q2 and 2015 Q4. We can clearly see, which has more to buffer against the whole KV's condos with such sizes and prices and which has higher risk compare to the whole KV developer of entering RM 600+ psf onwards.

Just my little opinion.

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Haha...why rent room at B.OUG must without air-con neh?

Why monthly income 2.5k ~ 4k cannot rent room at b.oug, must die-2 rent room at oug parklane?  biggrin.gif
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Bukit oug rm 300 small room can get air con meh?lol~ rm300 with a fan is very worth d.

Parklane so fresh with 200 shoplot, sure alot of tenant move thr after complete.
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What I want to ask is that, if there is oversupply of condos in the next 1-3 year, in the OUG/Bukit Jalil area specifically, is it going to affect the lower end, the higher end or the mid range ?

Somehow I feel that lower end market is more resilient because their market demand is bigger and their holding cost is lower. Just my gut feel.
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It just like a piramid scheme, bottom is bukit oug, middle is parklane oug, top is the rainz,z resident,kr1,kr2

Bottom got the biggest market,den middle, den top. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 2 2013, 03:06 PM)
What I want to ask is that, if there is oversupply of condos in the next 1-3 year, in the OUG/Bukit Jalil area specifically, is it going to affect the lower end, the higher end or the mid range ?

Somehow I feel that lower end market is more resilient because their market demand is bigger and their holding cost is lower. Just my gut feel.
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Somehow i have the same view/feel. The monthly installment play a role here. The bigger market afford mthly installment below RM2,500. In any circumstances, dd for lower/medium end still able to sustain.

Whereas those high end target niche segment which is more vulnerable & the occupancy rate might not that encourage when there's changes occur. Exceptional case for those high income earners area.

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We must be careful with Bukit Jalil area. Seems like many new condo's will be on the market soon and we dont know subsale demand yet. Many of those buying are for investment not on stay and that makes it more risky. Right now everybody is talkin about developers price. Nobody really knows for sure what banks will valuate subsale. This is key. If banks dont have confidence, then loan margins will be lower and when loans are lower, this will be a huge put off for potential investors. Banks now are getting more n more cautious. There are already articles online talking about Bukit Jalil condos being overpriced in reference to Treez, KM1 East, Twin Arkz, etc.

I also just found out that for Regalia Condo off Jln Sultan Ismail, banks are now starting to valuate about 90-100K lower than advertised pricing compared to a few months ago where buyers could get much higher. Im also seeing this trend in other developments also. I think the banks know something which we dont. When banks valuations start dropping, we have to be cautious. Thats why for Bukit Jalil areas, its important that you invest in units that are well below the benchmark pricing for that area. KR1 subsale prices will be a yardstick for Bukit Jalil when owners start to flip.
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If you can read chinese...maybe u can more understanding the future of B.Jalil.

根据DBKL最新的土地规划及发展策略,Bukit Jalil、Damansara及Ampang/U-Thant 会被打造成具有国际吸引力的“星级”社区。Damansara、Ampang/U-Thant已经是成熟的社区,目前最值得关注的便是 Bukit Jalil。除了现有的6条大道、两个公园、4所大专院校和工业园,将来的LRT延长线、Pavilion 2、Calvery会展中心、规划中的 KIDEX(Kinrara - Damansara)大道与 SKIP (Serdang-Kinrara-Putrajaya) 大道和黎明华小的完成将使到这个区域更加完善和成熟。
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Imagine if the golf course is replaced with big scale commercial hub, this area will really fly....
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Imagine if the golf course is replaced with big scale commercial hub, this area will really fly....
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Imagine if the golf course is replaced with big scale commercial hub, this area will really fly....
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Andy Lau won't be happy lor...
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Andy Lau won't be happy lor...
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andy lau brought a unit there meh??
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Imagine if the golf course is replaced with big scale commercial hub, this area will really fly....
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Hehe. BJ already got incoming of Berjaya Mixed Dev and the mega scale, Jalil City with Pavilion 2. I think it should be highly successful enough given its location and the quality of the Bkt Jalil folks.

Maybe close 2-3 holes for commercial shop lots also good. Haha.
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The only development that will have impact, if subsale demands is less than anticipate is Twin Arkz.
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The only development that will have impact, if subsale demands is less than anticipate is Twin Arkz.
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If any project with later subsale demand is lesser than anticipated, I think almost all projects will have impact, no?

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If any project with later subsale demand is lesser than anticipated, I think almost all projects will have impact, no?
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All will have impact. The more expensive, the more impact.
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Judging from the good sales from Petalz, I've a feeling this one could be slow slow slow...
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News for The Rainz

Tenure : Leasehold
Total Units : 881
Built Up : 1200 ~ 1800sf
Estimated launched Price : 500psf

http://propertyreviews.my/the-rainz/

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Any discounts?
Dibs?
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News for The Rainz

Tenure : Leasehold
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Estimated launched Price : 500psf

http://propertyreviews.my/the-rainz/
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start booking?
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highly doubt it will be 500 psf, even bumi lot wont be 500 psf. Since its exism project
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881unit in a small land.. consider very high den....
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The Rainz is leasehold ? Confirm ? When they are gonna to launch? Too many unit around the area.
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The Rainz is leasehold ? Confirm ? When they are gonna to launch? Too many unit around the area.
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The Rainz is leasehold ? Confirm ? When they are gonna to launch? Too many unit around the area.
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5 more days to 2014 and you are still expecting dibs? biggrin.gif
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Just called up their Sales Office even SA said no info about when will launch? If you can get those early bird unit pls let me know. Really keen on the place for own stay/investment both also suit me.
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Seriously, no dibs also BBB mode? biggrin.gif
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500psf in bukit jalil. y not?
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For sure or not 500psf? biggrin.gif

for own stay is one thing, to rent out, with the amount of units available....hmm hmm.gif
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Expressionz launch soon. Rainz should be middle or 3rd of 2014.
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between KR and ZR....

The Link 2 condo better location but pricey

so what u guys think ?
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