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kimi0148
post Jun 21 2024, 11:40 AM

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BI trf to another acc need 0.50 for Duit Now trsf? IBG need 0.10? Last time don't' have?
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post Jun 21 2024, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kimi0148 @ Jun 21 2024, 11:40 AM)
BI trf to another acc need 0.50 for Duit Now trsf? IBG need 0.10? Last time don't' have?
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above 5k will charge 0.50


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post Jun 21 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 21 2024, 11:54 AM)
above 5k will charge 0.50
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What type of transfer needs 50sen?

I know sspn to BI CASA is 50sen for any amount.
BI CASA IBFT to any bank is foc for any amount.

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post Jun 21 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 21 2024, 12:19 PM)
What type of transfer needs 50sen?

I know sspn to BI CASA is 50sen for any amount.
BI CASA IBFT to any bank is foc for any amount.
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I tried IBG to Al Rhaji yesterday need 10sen but transaction failed and refunded but eat my 10sen.

Duit Now trsf to MBB this morning, need 50sen for >5k. Duit Now to TNG e wallet rm 100 no need. confused.gif

But you are right, April and May I DutiNOW trf FOC... doh.gif

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post Jun 21 2024, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 17 2024, 11:54 AM)
Whoa sure or not?
I deposit on 1.6.24, sspni before cutt off date
But sspni updated as 11.6.24 after cutt off date
That deposit can get june divided?
Sounds too good to be true, for current year

Previous year yes, dividend already paid before that mess happened i know, so that mess of delayed dates have no effect
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jun 17 2024, 11:44 PM)
Even with old system, early month transactions will take time to update as it is a manual process (and they're updating for dividend every month too), but mid month will be faster. We didn't care because the date shown in system would be transaction date not posting date. Now new system they show new date then only we notice more.

For me, I don't play the date so exact so I don't really mind. There are better vehicles nowadays anyway.
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jun 20 2024, 10:30 PM)
As if its a huge secret, those of us here for a while all know the cut off date. What I'm saying is that it really doesn't matter, especially when you're talking for the relatively small amount you can deposit via ewallet (1k per account per day).

Everyone here is ONLY SPECULATING that the posting date is the 'new' thing that PTPTN is using to calculate cut off, when in fact even years ago every start of the month someone will complain that "why not yet reflected in system" after a week. And then eventually it will be reflected, but show transaction date, and based on actual calculation of returns the dividend does include those amounts.

Now NO ONE has calculated whether the amounts which are transacted in first few days but posted after the 6th is included in the dividend, but people just need to jump and complain as if its confirmed not received.
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 20 2024, 11:14 PM)
bro you tak tahu lah cakap sama you  pun susah

1)EW deposit small only ?-salah
2) Last time  dividend paid for deposit done on 1st 5 days - betul
  updated few days later - betul
  apa hairan  tu betul betul?
  pasal after updated it is exact date same as deposit date - sure lah betul

now updated  as after cut off date -still can dapat dividend -nah go dreaming
common sense lah why sspni  set the system like that..
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Jun 21 2024, 11:17 AM)
Pandai to say 'common sense' on matters you guessing only. Ever done any web design work before? Assuming that new website design is somehow coming together with a backend change, rather than the simpler explanation that they're just displaying a different field now?

Malas nak explain panjang2, carry on complaining if it makes you happy.
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myPTPTN (new portal) has been around for a few years now. All along, the date displayed on myPTPTN's statement is not the transaction date. The date shown on the old portal's statement is the transaction date. Dividend calculation is based on the transaction date. This can be seen clearly when both portals were still accessible.

Starting from early 2023, the old portal had been discontinued. Hence, the actual transaction date can no longer be seen on SSPN's website. However, the transaction date was still used to calculate the dividend. I know because I had calculated the dividend and it was correct (credited in 2024).

So, the only thing that changed is showing the processed date rather than the transaction date in the statement. They don't label it properly and simply display it as date, hence the confusion.
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post Jun 21 2024, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Jun 21 2024, 12:19 PM)
What type of transfer needs 50sen?

I know sspn to BI CASA is 50sen for any amount.
BI CASA IBFT to any bank is foc for any amount.
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DUITNOW above RM5k. Something new implemented but BI didn't inform customer. If don't want to get charged RM0.50, do multiple transfers below RM5k.
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anyone know sspn prime at pyday app call what? konvensional or sspn-i?
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post Jun 21 2024, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(xiaomoon @ Jun 21 2024, 01:45 PM)
anyone know sspn prime at pyday app call what? konvensional or sspn-i?
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post Jun 21 2024, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 21 2024, 01:31 PM)
DUITNOW above RM5k. Something new implemented but BI didn't inform customer. If don't want to get charged RM0.50, do multiple transfers below RM5k.
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Wasn't aware of this, just found out I was charged 50sen last week. No charges for May.
Just to confirm if amount is 5k then no charges.?

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post Jun 23 2024, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 28 2024, 01:13 PM)
Simpanan bersih.
assuming no dividend received value.

You got balance 22k at start of the year
You take out 20k.
You got balance of 2k, then
You added in 8k this year.
Your new balance is 10k.

Your simpanan bersih for this year is -12k (-20k out +8k in)
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I'm sorry...my calculation are not good.

I dont understand. cry.gif
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post Jun 23 2024, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 28 2024, 01:51 PM)
31 Dec 2022 : RM22,000 balance
1 May 2023 : +RM8,000 = RM30k balance
1 Jun 2023 : -RM20,000 = RM10k balance

Tax relief uses NETT deposit for the current year :
+RM8,000
-RM20,000
= -RM12,000
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post Jun 23 2024, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(rinapua @ Jun 23 2024, 09:58 AM)
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U put in 8k but u take out 20k. Take out more than put in. So no tax relief. Simple as that.

U want tax relief u need to put in more than take out. Understand?

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post Jun 23 2024, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 23 2024, 11:16 AM)
U put in 8k but u take out 20k. Take out more than put in. So no tax relief. Simple as that.

U want tax relief u need to put in more than take out. Understand?
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For example: now I got balance 50K in there, this year I add in 8K. Balance 58K.

When only I can take out the money in my account for that 50K?
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post Jun 23 2024, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(rinapua @ Jun 23 2024, 10:32 PM)
For example: now I got balance 50K in there,  this year I add in 8K. Balance 58K.

When only I can take out the money in my account for that 50K?
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Anytime, take out 50k, skip 1 year of tax relief, restart saving from beginning.
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post Jun 23 2024, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(rinapua @ Jun 23 2024, 10:32 PM)
For example: now I got balance 50K in there,  this year I add in 8K. Balance 58K.

When only I can take out the money in my account for that 50K?
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You can take out anytime.... but if you take out how to get tax deduction for it? Or dividend for the months the money is not there? So far got multiple forumers explain for you specifically how to calculate, giving dates and example amounts, still cannot understand?

If you started the year with 50k, by 31st december you must have added 8k of your money in there.

If you took out the 50k, you must add 58k back.

This is not complicated maths.
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post Jun 23 2024, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(rinapua @ Jun 23 2024, 10:32 PM)
For example: now I got balance 50K in there,  this year I add in 8K. Balance 58K.

When only I can take out the money in my account for that 50K?
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You can take out that 50k anytime.
BUT,
If you take out that 50k this year ...you cannot claim tax relief for that 8k you put in this year (2024) during your ITR filing in Apr 25 ( next year)

If you take out that 50k next year, you can claim tax relief during your ITR filing in Apr 25 ( next year) for that 8k you put in this year (2024)
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post Jun 23 2024, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(rinapua @ Jun 23 2024, 10:32 PM)
For example: now I got balance 50K in there,  this year I add in 8K. Balance 58K.

When only I can take out the money in my account for that 50K?
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Whoa no one seems can explain clearly to you.

Most important question is what was your balance on 31.12.23?
Was it rm50k? If yes you are stuck now, and you cant withdraw your rm50k until 1.1.25 if you want tax relief rm8000 for year 2024

The trick is to withdraw as much as possible after 6.12.23, keep lowest by 31.12.23 .

Then if you have rm58k today, you can withdraw rm50k lah
If the balance rm8000 is all your own deposits since 1.1.24

.and you have to keep that nett deposit rm8000 till 1.1.25 to be eligible for tax relief rm8000 for 2024

This post has been edited by guy3288: Jun 23 2024, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 23 2024, 10:55 PM)
Whoa no one seems can explain clearly to you.

Most important question is what was your balance on 31.12.23?
Was it rm50k? If yes you are stuck now, and you cant withdraw your rm50k until 1.1.25 if you want tax relief rm8000 for year 2024

The trick is to withdraw as much as possible after 6.12.23, keep lowest by 31.12.23 .

Then if you have rm58k today, you can withdraw rm50k lah
If the balance rm8000 is all your own deposits since 1.1.24

.and you have to keep that nett deposit rm8000 till 1.1.25 to be eligible for tax relief rm8000 for 2024
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Your explanation is bad, why can't he withdraw? He will just need to redeposit more than he puts in before end of the year.

If he withdraw prior to 31.12.23 then he would not have 58k today? Seems like you will just add confusion.
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post Jun 24 2024, 10:49 AM

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Jan - withdraw all (e.g. 48k)
Dec - deposit the amount withrew on Jan + 8k (e.g. 56k)
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post Jun 24 2024, 02:36 PM

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Dammit you guys have serious maths comprehension problem when it comes to SSPN.

By December 31st 2023 total is 48k
By December 31st 2024 total is 48k + 8k = 56k

So whatever money you withdraw within 2024, so you take out 20k make sure by 31st December it's 56k. By depositing 28k

Stop making everything so complicated.

This post has been edited by Avangelice: Jun 24 2024, 02:37 PM

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