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post Dec 31 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Dec 31 2015, 08:50 AM)
This cc thing is new to me.  So where can we do the top up via cc next year?  Many thanks.
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I would like to know also, missed this when I was doing the 6k top-up this year. Can use cards like AEON Watami to get additional 3% cashback just from these transactions.
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post Dec 31 2015, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(studentsurvey @ Dec 31 2015, 10:51 AM)
Hey guys, got a ques.. let's say if i save 6k today, is it easy to withdraw in jan and also would the 6k i saved be eligible for the 2015 tax relief?
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Can, but then you won't be able to claim 2016 tax relief unless you put in 12k.

Best way to 'play' is probably to put 6k per year for a few years until its sizable amount (let's say you go for 5 years), then withdraw one short in the 6th year. 7th year start putting 6k again. This will result in much better interest rate (just put the withdrawn amount in some investment or long-term FD) IMO compared to every year just add and add.
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post Jan 2 2016, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jan 1 2016, 08:03 AM)
(2) Should happen since the simple calculation is deposit for the year - withdrawal for the year.

The method is pretty clever. I think I'll try that  thumbup.gif
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Everything I can find to read indicates that the calculation is simply increase within past calendar year, so shouldn't be a problem. Bigger issue is whether need to maintain a minimum amount, and over counter I was told no problem to withdraw (just that it takes time only).
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post Jan 27 2016, 06:45 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 26 2016, 09:47 PM)
A good technique would be as follows :-
1. Dec 2016 - Deposit RM6,000 using Credit Card
2. Jan 2017 - Print the Tax Relief Receipt, withdraw RM6,000 to pay back the Credit card bill
3. Dec 2017 -  Deposit RM12,000 using Credit Card
4. Jan 2018 - Print the Tax Relief Receipt, withdraw RM12,000 to pay back the Credit card bill
5. Dec 2018 -  Deposit RM18,000 using Credit Card
6. Jan 2019 - Print the Tax Relief Receipt, withdraw RM18,000 to pay back the Credit card bill
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I like this idea. After a while no more limit on CC to play though =p have to max out all the CC.
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post Feb 4 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Feb 4 2016, 07:56 AM)
I don't blame you for not reading post clearly. Don't try to cheat post count here.
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I think it's your misunderstanding. SSPN tax incentive is only for accounts opened for your children/grandchildren/ward. This has always been the case.
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post Apr 15 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(SmallPotato2011 @ Apr 15 2016, 08:28 AM)
Try in UTC PUDU yesterday. Also not allowed anymore... Ask further, officer said no longer accept for SSPN top up...
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Oh no, that's bad news!

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post Apr 28 2016, 07:02 AM

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QUOTE(jsflim @ Apr 27 2016, 02:39 PM)
1 question here, if I put the money into SSPN on December, will I still entitle for the 4.x% rate? or they calculate on prorated basis?
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I think obvious answer leh?
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post Nov 22 2016, 05:33 PM

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Confirm no place can do credit card deposit anymore right?
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post Dec 3 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Dec 2 2016, 11:57 AM)
I just went to top up last night at their Mines Shopping Mall outlet.  Rm3k can get free powerbank or huge umbrella.  Rm6k can get hamper with backpack and savings box and stationeries.  They are open till 9pm.  Accept cash, cheque or debit card.  Too bad they stopped accepting credit card this year.
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Sounds good. Maybe I should drop by. Wanting to do my full 6k sometime soon.
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post Dec 9 2016, 07:56 AM

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Any way to check SSPN current amount online?
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post Dec 30 2016, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(imnotabot @ Dec 29 2016, 05:27 PM)
https://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/guest/simpanan/keistimewaan

Not sure what it means though, which is why I asked. Still not familiar with taxes since I'm only eligible to pay tax next year, so previously I didn't give a damn about taxes.  tongue.gif
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Taxes are paid on income, so withdrawing from investment accounts you should only pay tax on your profit, not on the capital. However I believe currently savings of up to RM250k the profit is not taxed, so for most not-so-rich people don't worry about any taxes from savings accounts/FD interest.

Howevr, if you do unit trust etc. then the profits confirm taxed. But this isn't the place to discuss that. tl;dr the tax exemption is just you can consider yourself earning X amount less this year, no long term effect.
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post Dec 31 2016, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(imnotabot @ Dec 30 2016, 01:16 PM)
Ah, I see. Is this officially documented anywhere? I can't seem to find it by googling.
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LHDN. I recommend the malay language version if you're comfortable with it, it's more accurate.
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post Jan 1 2017, 08:51 AM

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Anyone tried withdrawal before? About how long did it take?
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post Jan 5 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(tryifelsecatch @ Jan 5 2017, 12:14 AM)
hi guys, i open a new sspn i-plus last week and want to check the a/c details all that.

i use the link provided in registration email which is
http://esspniplus.ptptn.gov.my/penyatasp/index.php

but it doesn't seems to show anything.
any idea?
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I always used https://epay.ptptn.gov.my/saving/sspnlogin.html
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post Feb 20 2017, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 19 2017, 08:38 PM)
Thanks. Mean no trick can use to gain the tax rebate sad.gif
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Got, you just add 6k a year for a few years. After 4 years you have 24k + interest, you withdraw all, so that year you don't get rebate. Then the next year you start another 6k.

You skip one year of rebate, gain back liquidity. Since 4% isn't too bad I think just leave there better.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Feb 20 2017, 12:50 PM)
hi, just want to clarify:

1st year - put in rm6k.
2nd year - get interest for 1st year 6k. withdraw rm6k, put in rm6k on december, account close at end of 2nd year is rm6k.
3rd year - no interest for 2nd year, since nett for 2nd year is rm0.

correct?
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Yes. So don't bother putting in 6k in 2nd year. Either put 12k or don't put in.
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post Feb 20 2017, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 20 2017, 01:10 PM)
Najib so smart make us no choice but invest every yr.
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Apasal bring up Najib... savings is a good thing, whether its savings in account under your name or tax savings. Ini pun nak komplen? bangwall.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 20 2017, 03:52 PM)
The tax saving is attractive but return of 4% just  normal. Compounded long term I lose out alot
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Diversification is key. It's better or matching FD rates. Unless you believe you should put all your eggs in the high risk high reward basket. Of course it's also stupid to put all your funds in SSPN, but this is only 6k a year.


QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:21 AM)
Put back yr end can't get tax incentive wor how?
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Can, but the amount you put back must be 6k more than what the amount was on Jan 1st.

So if you do the following:-

Dec 31 2012 - Deposit 6k (qualify for tax deduction 2012)
Jan 1 2013 - withdraw 6k (takes a few weeks though)
Dec 31 2013 - Deposit 12k (qualify 6k for tax deduction 2013)
Jan 1 2014 - withdraw 12k
Dec 31 2014 - Deposit 18k ..... etc.

Then you get the tax rebate, and the only loss to you is the lost interest of a few weeks of processing for withdrawal.
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post Feb 21 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Feb 21 2017, 10:42 AM)
True.  Better dont spend precious time bank in & withdraw for 3k a year.  Treat it as diversification lor.  At least bila tua, got various sources of income or places to withdraw from, hehe.
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3k per year will grow. When its only 3k easy to say 'don't spend the time', but if you do this every year, after 10 years you got 30k inside there you really want to leave?

If it's <10% of my savings then I won't bother, but for those where it's significant, better to take out.
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post Feb 22 2017, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Feb 21 2017, 08:15 PM)
I check google and there is no mention about the 3k. It is still 6k.

Anyway I make comparison calculation if taken the 4% sspn dividend and reinvest the tax saving with 10% return it still lose significantly compare to investing the whole 6k at 10% return.
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If you're highest bracket (or close to) tax savings is by itself 20+% so definitely better than any 10% return. Unless you think you're going to leave the money in SSPN for 10 years.

At that point you need to understand about diversification. If I have guaranteed 10% per annum for 10 years of course I'll go for that. Good luck finding that instrument (even ASNB don't have that performance, and anything above that is very high risk/high reward).

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