None of the IPTS courses in architecture are accredited.
Taylors has been conducting the same course for some years now but they have yet to start the B.Arch course. It is probably because of the issue of accreditation. I think they are being prudent not to offer a 2nd course when the lst course is not accredited.
LUCT have started their B.Arch course which is of course not accredited. It is also offered in KLIU.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: May 21 2011, 12:12 AM

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately it is too late for me to change my mind now. I've already decided to start foundation in UTAR.

actually taylor's dont have to wait to get accredited for part 1 to start part 2. UKM apparently is not accredited (i just found out about this), and they're already running both part 1 and 2, and actually have produced a part 2 (equivalent) graduate albeit unaccredited. it is actually cheaper to do both accreditation assessment rather than one by one.

but i still dont know why taylor's actually not running their part 2 yet.

I have a few questions.

If I completed my part 1 degree in Australian or New Zealand universities such as RMIT,UQ or Uni of Auckland, am I able to pursue my part 2 degree/masters in top architecture unis in the uk such as UCL, AA and such? Do these universities accept qualifications from Australian/nz unis?

How hard/easy is it to get in with aus/nz degrees?

Any assistance rendered is much appreciated

i got in bartlett (UCL) masters using my measly UTM degree. some friend of mine went to AA using diploma from UTM. it's safe to say if they accept UTM diploma/degree, they definitely accept australian reputable schools'.

That's good to know. thanks.

Btw, how strict is the admission there? Since the AA and Bartlett being the top architecture schools in the uk, i'm guessing it's pretty hard to get in. What does it take to get a place? How is the admission process and the interviews? If you don't mind explaining your experience in getting in and the education there.

undergraduate is a bit harder to get in compared to masters (the one i took). for masters, it's pretty straightforward. i filled out the form, enclosed 2 endorsement letters, ceevees and stuff and sent it. the next thing i know, offer conditional offer letter came in. then sorted out the scholarship thingy, and a few days letter the unconditional letter came in. then i'm off.

they would prefer an interview, but it's not always necessary. if ur ceevee and portfolio is good enough, they dont need to interview u.

I would love to share this with those who are interested in Architecture.

It's a TV series of an Architecture school. After watching, you can expect similar situations when studying architecture later ( if you have not changed you mind after watching )

Did you went there on scholarship? So basically if you have a good portfolio and cevee, the chances of getting in for the masters degree is quite good?
That's good to know.

I'm actually planning to study my part 2 masters degree in the uk after completing part 1 in Aus/NZ. Based on your experience there, how was the education there? Is it as good as all the hype and what people presumed it to be?

Hi

Why did you move to study in UK after part 1?

Lol. I said that I was planning to do that. Haven't started my diploma yet. =)

So why do you want to do it that way?

Part 1 in Oz and Part2 in UK?

erm, i got a few question..

1) in IPTA, 5 years for architecture, the lam part 1 part 2 exam included in the 5 years duration? or we need to take the exam seperately after 5 years?

2) for IPTS, izzit true we have to sit for part 1 exam privately and then only continue part 2? so total how long the process might take?

3) Izzit true going IPTS will be a faster route compare to IPTA? or actually they are the same?

i went there on scholarship, yes. and yes, u would need good portfolio and ceevee. but truth be told, my portfolio isnt much to shout about. i never scored an A in design. the highest is A-. but i've got a good ceevee, ranging from local competitions to the director of international student event.

bottom line is, they dont only look at ur grades. portfolio and ceevees matter too.

the education in the UK is fairly different, but mostly on the approach part. they are more open, but always rigorous. they have strong motivations to succeed with their works. and success is whatever they define themselves. in malaysia, most motivation is governed by the need to get an A. and ofcourse, studying in the UK puts u very close to a lot of different countries. EU consists of a lot of different countries and cultures. so everything is within affordable range if u're staying in the UK.

my wife and i spent most of our scholarship money traveling. the rest of the students spent it on clothes, gadgets, furnitures and cars. those things i could buy later when i'm richer. but traveling? u can only do it when u have no kids to worry about. so it's either when we're young, or when we're really, really old .

1. in accredited IPTAs, there is no LAM part 1 and/or 2. u just finish the course, and u'll get accredited.

2. no, not really. if u plan to go to an unaccredited school for part 2, then u dont need to sit for part 1. u only required to sit for part 1 if u're going to an accredited school for part 2.

3. as compared to what?

Studying in the uk definitely sounds interesting. What scholarship were you on? JPA?

It seems that portfolio and ceevees that are more important than grades in architecture.
Btw just to be sure, what's ceevee? Sorry but I'm not really sure. hehe. Care to explain? thx

Another question, will work experience help in the admission into the part 1 degree? I'm thinking of working for a few months or so as I will be finishing around june and will have half a year before the intake for the degree course. Will this help in gaining admission into a uni? even if it is just for a few months?

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Added on May 24, 2011, 4:23 pmWell to me, we can learn alot through exposure and travelling. Compared to just staying in one place, the experience when being and living in different places will definitely help you in life and give you a different perspective on things and on life. If given the chance to live in different continents, wouldn't you? I definitely will my friend

After finishing my diploma, i'd probably be studying in Aus or NZ as they are not as strict on admission into their part 1. Most of the unis there will recognise diploma as an entry requirement into the 2nd year or so. Unlike uk universities, which are more strict about admission. Most of the unis will not accept diplomas especially if its architecture. I also have family in aus and have been there several times and i loved the place.

Uk is no doubt one of the best places to study architecture. With great architecture all around you its sure to be inspiring. And with unis like the bartlett and AA, it makes it even better. If i can I'd definitely want to study there. With a part 1 degree i'm guessing it'll be easier to enter into the unis there for the part 2

This post has been edited by 123.abc: May 24 2011, 04:24 PM

i was on JPA-UTM scholarship.

ceevee = curriculum vitae.

and yes, portfolio and ceevees are more important than grades in architecture.

they dont expect work experience for part 1. so most of the time, they just disregard it unless u worked under zaha hadid or some big shot architect prior to part 1. but for part 2, yes, work experience counts.

and btw, work experience is usually counted by YEARS, not months .

ic..

i mean if i go IPTS for architecture, will i graduate faster than those who go IPTA? since they go 2 years form 6, while IPTS requires 1 year foundation..

and if after i graduate from a unaccredited school ( part 2 unaccredited), then i have to sit for the part 1 and 2 exam? or only part 2 exam?

actually the thing tat troubled me for now is the time taken to finish the course, i want to graduate as fast as possible

I see. So your that saying work experience wont help in my admission into a part 1 uni? Can't work experience be counted in the ceevee then?

What about admission into a part 1 degree? Is it also based on portfolio and cevees?

sure, u will graduate earlier. but at what cost? how many IPTS students actually passed the accreditation exam? now that is a question none have actually asked here. why risk your future just for the sake of graduating 1 year earlier? is it really worth it?

like i said, work experience normally counted by the years. so if u have any prior experience less than a year, usually it's just going to sit there in ur ceevee to look pretty . but it may add a bit to ur credibility should it come to a tie-breaker situation.

Mr. Azarimy, I have emailed PAM about accreditation of the LICT>Overseas recognised part 1&2 degree and have received different replies.

This is what i have received from the Executive Secretary of PAM, Zarina Ibrahim:

"Completing both Part I and Part II from LAM accredited course either from a local or overseas school of architecture will exempt the student from the LAM Part I and Part II Examinations.
Without any details supplied, the answers to the questions posed along with the stated situation will be :-
YES - LAM will recognise both Part I and II from a LAM accredited course from a school of architecture,
YES - you are exempted from LAM Part I and II Examinations, and thus NO to having to take the LAM Part I and II Examinations."

I have also received another reply from PAM Sarawak:

"Stated below is the reply from one of our architect on your questions.
I believe that for architecture courses to be exempted from part 1 &
2, the course need to be 'full time at the campus' of the institution.

So, I am assuming that if he does part of his course at Lim Kok Wing
then transfer to another recognized institution, he would still need
to go thru part 1 & 2 assessment by LAM."


I'm confused as I have sent both PAM and PAM Sarawak Chapter the same email detailing the path of which i'm planning to take. Which is the LICT credit transfer to an overseas recognised part 1&2 degree.

If you dont mind, which of this is the right answer? Will I or will I not be eligible to be exempted from the part 1&2 LAM exams? Mind to clarify?

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Added on May 24, 2011, 10:44 pmSo for my work experience to be counted it has to be at least a year? Does it have to be continuous? Alright then. Thanks.

This post has been edited by 123.abc: May 24 2011, 10:45 PM