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post Mar 23 2011, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(yen2009 @ Mar 23 2011, 09:58 PM)
Hi I got myself stuck with translation of Malay language while choosing Architecture program.

For Architecture, is it "Senibina, Perancangan Dan Ukur" or "Seni Lukis Dan Seni Reka"?

Cause "Kejuruteraan" is engineering right?

EDIT: For the Path 1 of your "4.0. Common Paths to Studying Architecture", does the Foundation means the foundation offered by the certain university? Cause I recently found that IPTA actually offers Foundation program.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I do think this is what it means:

Seni Bina - Architecture
Perancangan dan ukur - Planning and Surveying/Measuring
Seni Lukis - Illustration
Seni Reka - Design

If Seni Lukis & Seni Reka in 1 sentence then it means - Arts & Design

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post Mar 25 2011, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(yansheng91 @ Mar 25 2011, 12:53 AM)
AFTER THE DIPLOMA , WHEN WANNA APPLY INTO BACHELOR OF ARCH IN UTM , STILL NEED INTERVIEW ?
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Yup

btw, u and yen2009 are 2 different people?
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post Apr 6 2011, 08:05 PM

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Em just wondering, this thing just happened to a friend of mine and I don't know what to say to him. The situation was

this 'Abu' (not his real name) guy is my friend while 'Bobo' is his classmate.

Abu designed something for his final project and had a firm concept since the inception of the project.

Half way thru the semester Bobo steals 100% of Abu's idea and concept and the lecturers knows about it.

During the presentation, lecturers gave over 9000% credits to Bobo for the stolen concept, while Abu got shot in the head for the same concept and failed the subject. Abu even asked the lecturers whether they realized that that is his original idea and Bobo had stolen it from him, and the lecturers said yes, they knew it all along.

Other facts:

1. They both studied in a private college.

2. They both have no other discipline problem or what so ever, attended all the classes and completes all their works.

3. For the project, both have like 99% similarities in terms of building form and 100% same in the concept.

4. Complained to the management but they just don't give a shit

5. Other lecturers doesn't want to get involved.



So what are other things that he can do? Obviously something is wrong there. He really need help because to repeat the subject needs a hell lot of money.
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post Apr 8 2011, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 6 2011, 09:50 PM)
i'm not sure about intakes from diploma. i'm only involved in SPM and STPM intakes. will ask around. stay tuned.
if abu could produce evidence of originality/ownership, then he can lodge a report of plagiarism against bobo. if the school fails to take action without due justification, abu can sue the school.

but then again, there is very little originality in architecture. even established architects copy from one another. but what's important is acknowledging ur sources. if u dont, then that's plagiarism, and there's only one punishment for it: buang sekolah.
usually a week.
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That's the thing, one passes with flying colors while the other failed the subject. Repeating the subject will cost him more than 2k. Told him to sue the college, but he said there's too much hassle involved, plus even if he had successfully sued the school, it'll be a tough ride from there onwards as all the admins and lecturers will be keeping an eye on him. So he decided to quit and change school, but one more problem arises. The school won't let him bring back all his works. They said it's school property. How true is this? For companies, yes, but for school? He needs his works to apply for credit transfer as requested by other schools.

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post Apr 9 2011, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 9 2011, 12:34 PM)
all works produced towards getting a diploma/degree belongs to the school. but the intellectual property belongs to the student. this is the official standing for ALL design schools all over the world. next time read the fine print before signing.

then again, no school in the world requires original work when applying. it's enough to send them a copy or preview of the work. like UTM, we only wanna see some A3s of the works produced, not the entire scheme (10-20 sheets of A1). some dont even ask for it. so what's the big deal?
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The school won't even let him take pictures of his works. They are done manually not digital. While the school he's applying requires the original works because they scared MQA or something like that does not recognized his syllabus. This is what he told me. Anyway, thanks a lot for the replies. He somehow settled it already.

Off topic: Today marks 2 years of my working life in this field ^^ and more than 3 years surfing this thread biggrin.gif
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post May 20 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(aimanamia @ May 20 2011, 12:37 AM)
Architectural Association Design Review 2010

Features the latest design review from AA school and its new direction.
Its good for all people in architecture field.

Price: RM110

Interested, contact me_AA, 0162743806.
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Second Hand?
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post May 20 2011, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(aimanamia @ May 20 2011, 01:39 AM)
Nope, BRAND NEW
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No offence, but Basheer are selling them at RM93.50 after 15% discount for students.
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post May 22 2011, 05:06 PM

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I would love to share this with those who are interested in Architecture.

It's a TV series of an Architecture school. After watching, you can expect similar situations when studying architecture later ( if you have not changed you mind after watching biggrin.gif )



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post May 25 2011, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ May 25 2011, 01:32 AM)
I just managed to survive through my final crit today; for diploma, and it was incredibly awful to say the least...

I was among the first candidate to present my work, and it all went on quite smoothly at the beginning, but then everything started spiraling downhill afterwards as one of the crits started slamming my presentation-boards, design-concept, and design; really hard.

After the crit, I thought I was in deep trouble..., until I saw the very same crit doing the exact same thing to the rest, and even harder & worse; until one student cried.

Nevertheless, I have never undergone such a negative & awful crit session before.

Normally, I always feel very good, successful, & complete after my final crits (in previous sems), but this particular final one (today) really makes me think-more-than-twice about how good (or suitable for architecture) I really actually am. (It is digging-up the sour-truth.)

In fact, this whole final studio subject (for this final semester) was already hinting very hard at me (at a somewhat terrifying manner); that architecture might not be for me.

Having consistently scored a B grade for all of my previous studio subjects, this semester's studio "questioned my previous grades" & claimed to be completely different...; it seek to dig-out the complete truth in me, then thoroughly analyze it, then treat the matter individually, & then finally count it against me when applicable. (I would be expecting my grades for this semester's studio to be very different...)

In fact, it has been very clearly "hinted" in the last days that many will "definitely" fail, and be repeating this studio subject again next semester...

BTW, this is in Taylors. icon_idea.gif

Regards.
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This is normal la dey. If you have the passion for it, don't stop trying, don't give up. Now is the time to look back at which area you are lacking and try to improve it.


No one said it's gonna be easy smile.gif
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post May 25 2011, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 25 2011, 02:00 PM)
Hows Masters  equal to Bachelor?  rclxub.gif
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To confuse you even more, they call it Diploma (RIBA part 2) in UK. hahah, but they're the same thing.
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post May 26 2011, 10:11 PM

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Here's a list of recognized school in Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and United Kingdom from LAM

http://www.lam.gov.my/List/Malaysia.htm

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post Jun 12 2011, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Jun 9 2011, 12:15 AM)
In my opinion, no matter what you do in choosing institutions for architectural studies, it would be wise to avoid pursuing this course in private institutions altogether, most notably those that are more expensive; because please trust me, it is really not worth it at all.

For example, I'm coming from Taylors (which boldly claims in having "World Class Facilities" & standards); but seriously, the facilities here will still not be able to match or be on-par with the architectural facilities in an IPTA.

There is really nothing here (at Taylors) in terms of facilities for the architectural side of things; others than the usual design studios which are always incredibly filthy/dirty, in terrible condition, and still reusing the old battered-up tables & chairs from 10 years ago since the inception of this course from the old Taylors campus; you would not want to work in such deplorable conditions, unless it is thoroughly cleaned-up & arranged. In addition, the cost of printing in the campus, both monochrome & color printing on just normal paper, are also sky-high compared to the shops out there. (It is expensive made even more expensive.) Other than these, there are nothing else/no other relevant facilities for the architecture students, other than the outdated computer lab which is also being shared by all of the other design related course in Taylors; 95% of the time it is being occupied. (you get the picture...)

So as you can see, there is really no distinct advantage at all in pursuing architecture at even a so called IPTS with self-proclaimed "world-class-facilities" & standards; other than being faced with bunch of negatives... (Think of your hard-earn money.)

In-terms of the architecture standards, yes, there are indeed the good lecturers around in Taylors SABD, and you will be very lucky to have them (part time lecturers); those are notably the ones with the Ar. title in front of their names. But really only a few others around (full time lecturers) without the Ar. title are good at all (and you will be facing them all the time)...

I have also witness good (Ar.) lecturers being kicked out/dismissed/demoted, while other "kindergarten school teachers" with questionable ethics & attitudes are being promoted ever higher & higher up in the hierarchy/as program directors without anything more than a degree... hmm.gif (Hint: Internal political moves?)

Only one or two lecturers in here has a Masters (the can of worms), and they are acting so amazingly arrogant and suggesting to be the best of all. But in an IPTA, all lecturers are having PHDs!

Regardless, in this coming July I will like LAM - PAM to take a really seriously close look at this particular institution in the manner it is conducting it's architecture program, and the kind of standard it is really actually having... (Because from what I have been observing in the degree level; the standard produced by the students is rather disturbing to say the least...) Bottom line is; I will not even consider furthering into their degree program unless I need not pay the exorbitantly high fees just to undergo it.

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Wow, to be honest I think you are just ungrateful with what you have.

We don't even have our own studio and computer lab last time. Everything was shared. We also do not have our own printer like what you guys have. All printing jobs has do be done outside the campus which is very far away.

You mentioned there's some not so good lecturers? Some of my lecturer didn't even attend classes while some didn't even teach. We complained, the lecturer got sacked and was replaced by another of his kind.

The best of all, our fees are almost the same as Taylors.

but despite all that, we still can manage to do well and study. You just have to adapt to situation, get the best of what you have and don't be such an ass. Taylors is not Harvard or Oxford.
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post Jun 15 2011, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 15 2011, 02:21 PM)
just to share:

Terang! 2011 architectural workshop is in the news!

http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...us&pg=ka_02.htm
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Arkitek lari? Well duh, fresh grad same salary with 7-Eleven's worker. My colleague (Senior Architect with part 2) salary is only 3k after 8 years. I don't know who to blame, the company or the market.
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post Jun 17 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Jun 17 2011, 07:54 PM)
Dear azarimy, I really appreciate your profound reply; it is beginning to paint a clearer picture in my mind (certainly enlightening me more).
BTW, I have missed out just a few details in my previous post;

The lecturers basically formed their own conclusions silently (in their minds) about the particular "student"; "that he/she really have no interest at all in this course"; thereby making him/her really hard to pass/make it; no matter what. (They were totally wrong; because the student really does indeed have plenty of interest in this course).

Secondly, (during the presentations); there was no sign, hint, or feedback that the student will be failing at all; everything just seems to be OK/Normal as usual...; but suddenly at the end, the student was downright "shocked" that he/she had obtained a "failed grade".

I mean come on; if I have been profoundly told off (by them) with the sense being knocked into my head and all regarding my work & the course itself; and they had explained to me the reason why I "would" have to fail, and that they would have to fail me for "these said reasons", plus being "transparent " about the grading "criteria" (which they are clearly not), and also by being opened/transparent about what they can really afford to give me (or not) based on my overall performance; then I will "willingly" accept my failure for not being able to satisfy/meet up with their predefined set of standard/criteria. (And not about - "I dislike you, I just don't like your personality; therefore it is good to failed you and you would always be failing as long as you are under me.") (Manipulating the standards to fit their desires based on emotions...)

All in all, the situation is just very volatile/unpredictable over here. If you can really please the lecturers (especially if you really attempt to), then your grades will be "Golden" (seriously). But if you are just not bothered about this sort of things, and you so happened to be under the one (this semester) who is completely against your type of person/thinking/personality/character, then it would be seriously tough luck in passing... (No matter how good you are.)

In short, I was unfortunately under the wrong clients/bosses this semester. (Who also so happened to be in-charged of my other core-subject too - "very-unfortunately"; which clearly & unsurprisingly suffered to the max too. But for my other subject; which I clearly did not do very well in - it got a pretty good grade, and obviously that subject was under a totally different lecturer.)

P.S., it is indeed very interesting to note that the lecturers which I was under "this semester" for Studio; they were supposed to be the "ultra" soft, lenient, and the "Alright" ones (according to the majority of students)... hmm.gif Wheres the ones whom I was under "last semester"; they were technically supposed to be the really harsh/hard/merciless/brutal (tell-you-off-in-the-face) ones in which students in history had greatly suffered & failed under countless of times (and these lecturers were traditionally reserved for the final Studio level in diploma & then now in Final Degree Level); but very surprisingly I had greatly excelled under them last semester and had also successfully obtained truly excellent grades. (It is also very interesting to note that this semester's bunch of lecturers for Studio; they do not get along very well with our last semester's group - as there were lots of arguments & disagreements at hand even in the studios itself.)

Additionally, last semester, we had the very good Ar. lecturers; but this semester, we had none (except cocky talk big & emo ones); who can either be very soft - lenient ---> or super hard & merciless (depending on who you are). rolleyes.gif

"The grades & standards are just being manipulated/messed around with; to fit their spur-of-the-moment desires & emotions." (There are certainly more cases to share; even one directly involving $$$$.)

Once again, you are either just lucky, or very unlucky over here.

Regards.
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No offence, but in my humble opinion, I think you are thinking too much about the lecturers instead of yourself. Stop depending on the lecturers and stop blaming other people. If you have failed, please find out why. Learn from your mistakes (and other people's mistakes) and progress from there.
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post Sep 24 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 17 2011, 07:09 PM)
UTM degree part 2 will not be offered anymore beginning next year. the current degree part 2 students will be phased off until everyone's gone wink.gif.

in its place is the new masters part 2 programme. all new students going into UTM will sign up for the 3+2 programme. if u have a part 1, u can qualify for the masters part 2. professionally, it is equivalent to any part 2 programme. but academically, their research proportion is bigger.
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I will be graduating from University of Tasmania with Bachelor in Environmental Design (Architecture) by next year. Can i continue my part II in UTM? if so, what's the minimum requirement to enter?

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post Dec 14 2011, 02:09 AM

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I'm on my 3 months summer holiday. Do you have any nice architecture books to recommend? I'm trying to prepare myself for masters.
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post Dec 16 2011, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Dec 14 2011, 04:13 PM)
Unlike other fields, your time is better spent playing with Autocad and Sketchup rather than reading books.
Architecture is more about doing rather than reading.
Thanks, but I have mastered both software including 3dsmax+vray, rhino+grasshopper, photoshop and illustrator. I did graphic design since I was 14 years old, worked for 2 years in an archi firm, then did freelance for architectural projects till now. I'm also learning Revit right now.

Besides that what I want now is some reading materials. Would be nice if you guys can recommend some good ones. Cheers.
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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Dec 20 2011, 04:46 PM)
Architecture is such a wide field . You have to be specific - whether it is
design/presentation/documentation/details/materials/ construction/structure/environmental science/ project management/contracts/professional practice, etc.
I don't mind anything really. As long as its a good book and is worth reading. Or maybe perhaps anything to prepare for part 3? Your take. I don't want to limit the choices. Cheers wink.gif

QUOTE(yangsquare @ Dec 20 2011, 07:58 PM)
Just buy books on Pritzker architects. Don't buy the 'catalog' books, buy those that are authored by themselves. This way you'll learn the rationalisation and philosophy of their architecture; and enrich your own understanding and the development of your own architectural philosophy.

Be warned though, imitating those architects without substance is a big trap that most students fell unto.
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Good idea. Thanks wink.gif

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QUOTE(aviatordude @ Jan 2 2012, 01:34 AM)
I am going into final sem of my third year in a local private university in Klang Valley.. Despite getting maintaining a >3.6 CGPA, I perceive myself as seeming to fall behind in terms of my conceptual and analytical thinking, as well as understanding of the architecture profession as a whole. I have no pride of (and sometimes despise) my work, feeling that some of my colleagues who have put in more effort deserves the grade I am getting.

I also feel that grades are a poor representation of a person's performance in the architecture course, and more often than not is heavily related to favoritism practiced by professors/lecturers.

Am I the only one feeling this way? How do you get over this phase?
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Happened to me all the time. Our final presentation marking rubic clearly stated that 40% (more or less, can't really remember the exact amount) of the marks comes from our presentation board. A friend of mine was given A+ when she didn't even have any presentation board. No drawings, no photos.. basically nothing. To get an A+ we need to score atleast 90%. Since then i couldn't careless about the markings. I did way better when working and was paid higher compared to her.

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QUOTE(dianonaid @ Jan 5 2012, 05:05 PM)
I'm a JPA scholar and will be pursuing either Bachelors of Environments in University of Melbourne, or Bachelor of Design Studies in University of Adelaide, or in Deakin University.

I've passed the entry requirements for those 3 universities, but it's up to JPA now.

Anyway, I haven't yet bought a laptop of my own. Would it make sense for me to get the latest Macbook Pro 15" (the cheaper one), or should I just get something similar but way cheaper (though I'm not sure which one to get)?

And what softwares should I equip my future new laptop with?
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I'm not sure about all those universities, but as for mine ( University of Tasmania ). they're using Macs equipped with
Archicad,
Sketchup,
Photoshop
and Rhino with grasshopper.

I'm not a fan of macs though. I'm using a rm3k (Macbook with the same specs as mine cost rm10k) Asus lappy with
Autocad (Drafting),
Sketchup (3D modelling),
3dsmax (Rendering and Animating),
Photoshop (Editing)
and Illustrator (Composing).



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