why did u email PAM, where the body controlling the accreditation is LAM? these are two different bodies. u should've emailed LAM and get a straight answer.

if u observe carefully, both are indeed correct. the secretary of PAM was indeed correct. she just missed the part that it must be done in a particular institution full time. LUCT have a knack of circumventing this ruling by declaring that their degree is 3+0, meaning u will be doing it in a particular campus full time entirely. the trick is, instead of u going abroad for a 2+1 programme, they will bring the examiners from overseas here, and then call it a full time course.

I did in fact email LAM but I haven't received any reply. It has already been almost a month since.

So does this mean that if i did my diploma in LUCT and then transfer to a recognised part 1&2 degree, my degrees wont be recognised because that the part 1 degree is not done fully at the recognised institution? I'm not planning to study the degree course in luct or any other ipts's as i know it wont be recognised even if i transfered. I am however unsure about the diploma>degree recognition.

This post has been edited by 123.abc: May 24 2011, 11:34 PM

first of all, no diploma programme in malaysia is accredited, simply because diploma is sub part 1.

but the thing is, a twinning programme such as a 3+0 is not recognized by LAM as a diploma. a diploma should be awarded by the university where u did it. that's the definition that they use.

most IPTS diploma follow this format. which is why taylor's abandoned the diploma programme and concentrates on the degree. there's no point milking a cow that's already dry.

What I am planning to take is not the 3+0 degree but the LUCT diploma where i'd then do a credit transfer into a recognized degree. Isn't the LUCT diploma awarded by LUCT itself? unless i am wrong.. Or are you saying that for my degree to be recognized the diploma has to be done in the school where i am going to do the recognized part 1 degree? I don quite get it.

But back to the question,
Will LAM recognize my part 1&2 degree if i did a credit transfer into a recognized part 1 degree from the LUCT diploma?

This post has been edited by 123.abc: May 24 2011, 11:46 PM

i'm going to say unlikely. this is based on previous cases.

Hmmmm.. But is it possible?
So does this mean that all diploma holders will face the same problem? Even if its the UTM diploma? If its not recognized it means that I have to take the part 1 exam? Or do i go through assessment, interviews and so on to get my degree recognized?

What about the part 2 exam? Do I have to take the exam? Or do I have to take the part 1 exam individually first so that my part 2 will be recognized?

UTM diploma is not a 3+0.

if it's not recognized, then u will need to take the exams. all of it. assessment + interviews is part of the exam.

Is LUCT's diploma a 3+0?

What about the part 2?

it was a 3+0 last time i checked.

and what about the part 2? it's not accredited. simple as that.

It is? I thought the diploma was awarded by LUCT itself? How do I check if it is? By 3+0 what do you mean exactly?

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Added on May 25, 2011, 1:04 amAccording to the website, http://www.limkokwing.net/malaysia/courses...ral_technology/ it states that "Certification is awarded by Limkokwing University." on the top right corner. It doesn't say that the course is a 3+0 progamme. Unlike the Bachelor of Applied Science (Architectural Science) (3+0) which clearly states that it is a 3+0 programme and is jointly offered and awarded by curtin, http://www.limkokwing.net/malaysia/courses...ctural_science/

This post has been edited by 123.abc: May 25 2011, 01:04 AM

yeah. according to their website, they are the only accredited architecture degree in malaysia, right?

So your saying that the diploma is not awarded by LUCT? Who is it awarded by? How is it a 3+0?

I just managed to survive through my final crit today; for diploma, and it was incredibly awful to say the least...

I was among the first candidate to present my work, and it all went on quite smoothly at the beginning, but then everything started spiraling downhill afterwards as one of the crits started slamming my presentation-boards, design-concept, and design; really hard.

After the crit, I thought I was in deep trouble..., until I saw the very same crit doing the exact same thing to the rest, and even harder & worse; until one student cried.

Nevertheless, I have never undergone such a negative & awful crit session before.

Normally, I always feel very good, successful, & complete after my final crits (in previous sems), but this particular final one (today) really makes me think-more-than-twice about how good (or suitable for architecture) I really actually am. (It is digging-up the sour-truth.)

In fact, this whole final studio subject (for this final semester) was already hinting very hard at me (at a somewhat terrifying manner); that architecture might not be for me.

Having consistently scored a B grade for all of my previous studio subjects, this semester's studio "questioned my previous grades" & claimed to be completely different...; it seek to dig-out the complete truth in me, then thoroughly analyze it, then treat the matter individually, & then finally count it against me when applicable. (I would be expecting my grades for this semester's studio to be very different...)

In fact, it has been very clearly "hinted" in the last days that many will "definitely" fail, and be repeating this studio subject again next semester...

BTW, this is in Taylors.

Regards.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: May 25 2011, 01:36 AM

Azarimy,

Can u pls advise for the following path,

1, IPTS diploma, utm part1 , Utm part 2 - Recognize by LAM ?

2, Taylor diploma, UTM (Part 1) , Melboune U ( part 2) - Recognise by LAM ?

3, Taylor diploma, Melbourne U ( Part 1) , Melbourne U ( Part 2) - Recognse by LAM?

4, Utm diploma, U of Tasmania ( Part 1) , U of Tasmania (Part 2) - Recognise by LAM?


thanks for ur advise

This post has been edited by indahjaya: May 25 2011, 02:56 AM

This is normal la dey. If you have the passion for it, don't stop trying, don't give up. Now is the time to look back at which area you are lacking and try to improve it.


No one said it's gonna be easy

A wee bit lost here

By Part 1 and 2 mentioned here

Does that equate to BArch as part 1 and MArch as part 2?

My understanding is BArch takes nrmally takes 4 years and MArch an addtional year

TIA

Some unis have changed to calling their BArch, 'MArch', just to make it sound better.
They mean the same thing
Whatever you call it, the architecture degree takes a min. of 5 years to complete (never 4 years)
Anything less is not a degree in architecture, or Part II if you like.
Actually, Part I & 2 do not come into the picture unless your degree is not accredited by LAM.

Judging from the questions asked here, it'amazes me how common that school leavers get misinformed about the pathway to getting the Architecture degree.

foreign university, is it not? if it is a full time, then it should be no problem. but then again, why is it that not many of the diploma graduates eventually get accredited after their degree? this begs the question.

1. yes.
2. yes.
3. should be.
4. yes.

nope. BArch is always part 2.

part 2 can be either BArch or MArch. and yes, that means Masters of Architecture is equal to a Bachelor of Architecture (or vice versa).

part 1 usually is a BSc in "something". like BSc in Architectural Science, BSc in Architectural Technologies etc.

and no BArch is ever 4 years. the closest is BSc in Architectural Science (UiTM) which is 4 years after SPM.

Sometimes, you need to be thick-skinned to survive in architecture.

yeah. it would even be more amazing if u were to sit next to me interviewing these kids. they have been misinformed by the school counselors about architecture, and came into the interviews bearing such misinformation.

i've already written a proposition paper to UTM admin. i'm proposing to have a roadshow to go to schools, particularly targeting the school counselors and informing them about architecture. and maybe put the architectural paths chart (from 1st page) at the notice board of each school so that students can decide where they wanna go.