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jonuslee
post Jun 29 2011, 01:47 AM

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just want to ask that if an engineer have 1 1/2 years experience who earn 3.2k per month , issit consider underpay or overpay???
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post Jun 29 2011, 01:33 PM

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Hi guys I would like know what salary should I request for as an accountant trainee?Full time.
No experience and graduate of cat(certified accounting technician)
I am also pursuing acca but would like to start work and finish acca at the same time.
Could a trainee be paid under 1000?
I was hoping at least in the range of 1000 to 1500?
Is it too much?
Opinions would be greatly appreciated Thanks.

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post Jun 29 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Cls63Amg7 @ Jun 29 2011, 01:33 PM)
Hi guys I would like know what salary should I request for as an accountant trainee?Full time.
No experience and graduate of cat(certified accounting technician)
I am also pursuing acca but would like to start work and finish acca at the same time.
Could a trainee be paid under 1000?
I was hoping at least in the range of 1000 to 1500?
Is it too much?
Opinions would be greatly appreciated Thanks.
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I was an intern for only 550...
some interns dun even get money at all...
y can't trainee be paid less than 1000?
basically they r giving u knowledge n experience...
they have no obligation to give u knowledge n money...
hehehe
1000-1500 is damn good man.
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post Jun 29 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(jonuslee @ Jun 29 2011, 01:47 AM)
just want to ask that if an engineer have 1 1/2 years experience who earn 3.2k per month , issit consider underpay or overpay???
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overpay... if you work in the same company for the whole 1 1/2 years
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post Jun 29 2011, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Jun 29 2011, 03:19 PM)
overpay... if you work in the same company for the whole 1 1/2 years
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Icic....currently my friend have 1 1/2 year experience with salary RM2700.but he got offer from other company with basic RM3200.. then he is very lucky...so RM 3200 is considered high according to his experience level?
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post Jun 29 2011, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Cls63Amg7 @ Jun 29 2011, 01:33 PM)
Hi guys I would like know what salary should I request for as an accountant trainee?Full time.
No experience and graduate of cat(certified accounting technician)
I am also pursuing acca but would like to start work and finish acca at the same time.
Could a trainee be paid under 1000?
I was hoping at least in the range of 1000 to 1500?
Is it too much?
Opinions would be greatly appreciated Thanks.
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U know, if ur going to work as an accountant trainee for full time, might as well u go find a job as an account assistant. Just those small small family firms should be enough, some can pay around 1.5k, some around 1.8k depending on ur result and qualification. But most of the time, they need diploma students, but maybe CAT also can.


This post has been edited by xeda: Jun 29 2011, 09:37 PM
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post Jun 29 2011, 09:37 PM

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Okay, guys. Help me out here.

Job Title : Graduate Trainee Program (Finance)
Job Description : Costing, account, bookkeeping, budgeting, basically everything in the finance field.
Years/month spent in company : 0
Company : MNC - Food industry, so huge commercial company, with regional offices and factories around the globe.
Industry : Finance
Tenure : Permanent (starting Aug 2011)
Bond: 3 years
Education: Degree - 2.99 CGPA
Employment Level : Fresh grad?
Experience before joining : 6 month internship in a tax firm, 2 months working in the same tax firm
Salary : RM2.4k
Benefit: Standard (medical, annual leave, insurance), training is all on the company and since Im joining the training program, there'll be lots of training and exposure to different areas of the finance field, annual trips, annual dinners. They expect me to be mobile as I will be shifted throughout asia pacific to their regional offices as to increase my experience and gain exposure to international working culture. And they said they'd pay for my ACCA.

Havent gotten an offer letter yet, but the guy who interviewed me and the boss said that they strongly want to offer me a job in the program. Just that gotta wait till my medical check up results to be out cuz they're in the food industry, so all their employee has to be healthy up to a certain level.

Should I say yes? Bear in mind that I am based in Selangor, and I have a job starting next month (2k for 3 months probation, then after that 2.3k) and the office is just 3 mins walk from my house, but the job offer from the MNC is in Johor, so I would incur additional costs as I'd need to rent a room and probably drive to work, instead of just walking.

And I probably wont get to see my friends and families much as I'd need to be mobile in the MNC. But its a good opportunity, just that currently Im undecided.
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post Jun 29 2011, 11:54 PM

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@xeda, kinda confused of what you are trying to say. Anyway, I would say choose the job that gives you more exposure opportunities for your first job.
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post Jun 30 2011, 01:03 AM

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So what r u confused at?

I got 1 confirmed job, starting this friday. Office is 3 mins walk from my house, 2k salary during probation, 2.3k after 3 months probation. Small audit firm, basic benefits.

I got another job offer, the MNC in Johor, details as above.
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post Jun 30 2011, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Jun 29 2011, 09:37 PM)
Okay, guys. Help me out here.

Job Title : Graduate Trainee Program (Finance)
Job Description : Costing, account, bookkeeping, budgeting, basically everything in the finance field.
Years/month spent in company : 0
Company : MNC - Food industry, so huge commercial company, with regional offices and factories around the globe.
Industry : Finance
Tenure : Permanent (starting Aug 2011)
Bond: 3 years
Education: Degree - 2.99 CGPA
Employment Level : Fresh grad?
Experience before joining : 6 month internship in a tax firm, 2 months working in the same tax firm
Salary : RM2.4k
Benefit: Standard (medical, annual leave, insurance), training is all on the company and since Im joining the training program, there'll be lots of training and exposure to different areas of the finance field, annual trips, annual dinners. They expect me to be mobile as I will be shifted throughout asia pacific to their regional offices as to increase my experience and gain exposure to international working culture. And they said they'd pay for my ACCA.

Havent gotten an offer letter yet, but the guy who interviewed me and the boss said that they strongly want to offer me a job in the program. Just that gotta wait till my medical check up results to be out cuz they're in the food industry, so all their employee has to be healthy up to a certain level.

Should I say yes? Bear in mind that I am based in Selangor, and I have a job starting next month (2k for 3 months probation, then after that 2.3k) and the office is just 3 mins walk from my house, but the job offer from the MNC is in Johor, so I would incur additional costs as I'd need to rent a room and probably drive to work, instead of just walking.

And I probably wont get to see my friends and families much as I'd need to be mobile in the MNC. But its a good opportunity, just that currently Im undecided.
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i'd suggest the MNC due to the reasons below:

- it looks better on your resume
- i assume you're still young, so why hesitate to travel & be far from home
- the MNC offers more benefits and obviously a better platform to gain vital experiences locally & internationally

all the best!
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post Jun 30 2011, 11:38 AM

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Just to get opinion,

What is ur expected salary if you are:

1. Degree in Comp. Sc. and
2. >=10 years experiences( Programming on windows platform and unix/linux)


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post Jun 30 2011, 11:52 AM

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@gunnermania
Disagree with your 3rd statement. Experience and learning curve is dependant on the company itself whether is it SME or MNC.

Speaking from SME perspective, where you are required to do the work of a few people and at the same time achieve outstanding results for the work in your own job scope, you definately learn and experience more cause you get the bigger picture.

Hence, the reason why many complain that SME's are mostly china like companies and overwork you because they cant afford to hire more people. This is where they miss the big picture. The learning curve and experience beats anything and everything else. Even SME's have the chance to gain international experience FYI.
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post Jun 30 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Jun 30 2011, 11:52 AM)
@gunnermania
Disagree with your 3rd statement. Experience and learning curve is dependant on the company itself whether is it SME or MNC.

Speaking from SME perspective, where you are required to do the work of a few people and at the same time achieve outstanding results for the work in your own job scope, you definately learn and experience more cause you get the bigger picture.

Hence, the reason why many complain that SME's are mostly china like companies and overwork you because they cant afford to hire more people. This is where they miss the big picture. The learning curve and experience beats anything and everything else. Even SME's have the chance to gain international experience FYI.
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Agree with Kelvin. For young people, i would suggest to join small company. From there, normally is "1 leg kick" and you learn alot which i dont think you can learn from MNC. Better to suffer in early age then have a better future later.

MNS sounds nice, but most of the time you are doing nth or wait for someone due to procedure or too many dependencies to finish 1 simple task.
Just my opinion and my experience, may not same as others MNC cool2.gif
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post Jun 30 2011, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(imyourlimbeh @ Jun 30 2011, 12:32 PM)
Agree with Kelvin. For young people, i would suggest to join small company. From there, normally is "1 leg kick" and you learn alot which i dont think you can learn from MNC. Better to suffer in early age then have a better future later.

MNS sounds nice, but most of the time you are doing nth or wait for someone due to procedure or too many dependencies to finish 1 simple task.
Just my opinion and my experience, may not same as others MNC  cool2.gif
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I totally agreed with your statements.

Although I am in MNC now but I hope to change back to somewhere allows me to hold full responsibility/involvement and hands on for the tasks. While I started work in MNC, I felt like my life is 'meaningless'...! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Jun 30 2011, 11:52 AM)
@gunnermania
Disagree with your 3rd statement. Experience and learning curve is dependant on the company itself whether is it SME or MNC.

Speaking from SME perspective, where you are required to do the work of a few people and at the same time achieve outstanding results for the work in your own job scope, you definately learn and experience more cause you get the bigger picture.

Hence, the reason why many complain that SME's are mostly china like companies and overwork you because they cant afford to hire more people. This is where they miss the big picture. The learning curve and experience beats anything and everything else. Even SME's have the chance to gain international experience FYI.
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QUOTE(imyourlimbeh @ Jun 30 2011, 12:32 PM)
Agree with Kelvin. For young people, i would suggest to join small company. From there, normally is "1 leg kick" and you learn alot which i dont think you can learn from MNC. Better to suffer in early age then have a better future later.

MNS sounds nice, but most of the time you are doing nth or wait for someone due to procedure or too many dependencies to finish 1 simple task.
Just my opinion and my experience, may not same as others MNCĀ  cool2.gif
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i know it depends. duhh, i was referring to that particular MNC who offered the job to xeda. xeda has already described that the MNC has promised him such benefits.

This post has been edited by gunnermania: Jun 30 2011, 02:32 PM
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post Jun 30 2011, 02:36 PM

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hi guys, i wan to know about the different between certificate and diploma in culinary arts. position is same?? salary?? which one easy to get promote fast??
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post Jun 30 2011, 02:48 PM

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Brother, nowadays master degree holder is everywhere, no more certificate or diploma lor...

But if you want to compare between both, Diploma is more 'superior' than Certificate.
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 30 2011, 02:48 PM)
Brother, nowadays master degree holder is everywhere, no more certificate or diploma lor...

But if you want to compare between both, Diploma is more 'superior' than Certificate.
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icic...in hotel industry diploma is enuf or degree?
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QUOTE(Andy89 @ Jun 30 2011, 02:57 PM)
icic...in hotel industry diploma is enuf or degree?
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I am not sure about hospitality industry as I am not in it myself. wink.gif
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 30 2011, 02:29 PM)
I totally agreed with your statements.

Although I am in MNC now but I hope to change back to somewhere allows me to hold full responsibility/involvement and hands on for the tasks. While I started work in MNC, I felt like my life is 'meaningless'...!  biggrin.gif
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Yes, i have the same feel as you. feel like useless. not like in previous small company, i felt myself so usefull and make alot of contribution.
now just like an old folk waiting for retire whistling.gif

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