@sunofabeach
then that doesnt count as working experience. It just counts as you have done something extra during ur uni time.
Lets talk salary v4
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Mar 12 2011, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Mar 11 2011, 11:12 PM) @sunofabeach I am so confused right now then that doesnt count as working experience. It just counts as you have done something extra during ur uni time.   The jobscope I have been doing within this 12 months (in fact it's a year out full time job) includes the engineers responsibility such as leading projects, assist engineers in planning preventative maintenance, designing maintenance strategy, lead some maintenance meeting and currently have been given 1 experienced mechanics and 1 experienced electrician to work for me etc. .Besides that, i am oftenly being sent to join courses that is compulsory for engineers in my company too. Are all this not considered as working experience?? Oh my goodness. . what kind of jobscope would be considered as proper working experience then ?? can anyone explain  This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 12 2011, 12:20 AM |
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Mar 12 2011, 12:22 AM
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Job Title: control instrument technician
Age:25 Working experince: fresh grad (4years work oredi) Company : electric producer Location: negeri sembilan Salary : RM1.8k (basic) Working hours: 8.30am-5.30pm Benefits: medicals, maternity,stand by allowance 150/month, housing allowance 300/month Bonus - 2 month contractual, 4 month performance (this year), and 6 month loyalty bonus after 3 years serve....rm500 if no mc whole year, unlimited overtime(currently rm13/hour ) so far, im glad working here....very flexible and all the bosses were great.... |
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Mar 12 2011, 12:23 AM
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If u call an internship a job, then everyone has had working experience. I had an internship prior to getting my job. |
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Mar 12 2011, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Mar 12 2011, 12:23 AM) @sunofabeach I still cant figure out why situation in Malaysia is so not encouraging If u call an internship a job, then everyone has had working experience. I had an internship prior to getting my job. Even with the current placement I am doing,it sounded like the experience that I gain from work currently has no difference from a student who is carrying on the degree then   So the fact is work placement experience is a process of earning pocket money and will not be appreciated / recognised by anyone out there? How about someone here could explain to me how is a so called '' proper working experience'' in an engineering field like? This post has been edited by SunofaBeach: Mar 12 2011, 01:37 AM |
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Mar 12 2011, 02:01 AM
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Job Title : IT Support Executive
Job Desciption : Provide a single-point-of-contact for its staff to deliver a full range of IT support services including problem diagnosis, resolution, installation, service request, maintenance, asset tracking and reporting. Years spent in company : Just Start Company : Malaysia Industry : Water treatment Tenure : permanent Employment Level : Exec Experience before joining : Integrated Technology Specialist (7 yrs) salary : RM 5.5k+ Am I under paid? This post has been edited by jovialjean: Mar 12 2011, 02:02 AM |
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Mar 12 2011, 03:43 PM
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I think yes you are underpaid. 7 Years experience shouldnt be paid that low. |
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Mar 13 2011, 04:55 AM
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No one could even give some opinions regarding to my confusions?? |
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Mar 13 2011, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(SunofaBeach @ Mar 13 2011, 04:55 AM) No one could even give some opinions regarding to my confusions?? You don't need ppl to keep telling you what you need to say or write in your CV. One of the main qualities that great interviewers in big organization looked for is the confidence of interviewees in believing what they can/could achieve. Such qualities are the type that's gonna leave a deep impression on the interviewers. |
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Mar 13 2011, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(CoMMie @ Mar 7 2011, 10:53 AM) Job Title : c# .net r&d programmer If you compare to a 2-3 years programmer in current market, I think its a little underpaid.Ae:31 Job Desciption : doing r&d,testing, development work Years spent in company : 5+ Company : Local company Location:KL Industry : IT/ Business intelligence Tenure : permanent Employment Level : senior exec salary : RM 5k + benefits: just normal, no allowance or insurance increments :10%,1-2 months bonus depends on performance is this consider under paid or over? Added on March 13, 2011, 2:10 pm QUOTE(masconan @ Mar 7 2011, 08:31 PM) Age: 25 I think you are good enough. 5 working days consider normal for this pay in your industry.Job Description : Mechanical Design Engineer Years spent in company : 1 year 8 months Company : Japanese Tenure : Permanent Experience before joining : Fresh grad Education Level : Degree Current Salary : RM 2.7k Benefits: Medical & Dental , OT=RM7/hr+ meal allowance(RM10) Working hours : Mon-Fri (8- 5.30pm) I feel my current salary only allow me to save hundred bucks. Am i underpaid?? Any1 know? Added on March 13, 2011, 2:13 pm QUOTE(noobiejosh @ Mar 8 2011, 09:11 AM) Job Title : Sales Exec Kinda unfair in this way, sales should give commission. Depends company policy, they provide you so salary with petrol, they expect you should bring sales in in SALES term.Job Desciption : Sales (Electrical Field) Years spent in company : 1/2 Company : Chinaman Industry : Electrical Tenure : Permanent Experience before joining : Sales & Marketing in FMCG industry Experience before joining : In a way fresh grad (Interviewers said never been in electrical field b4 despite being in sales) Education Level : Degree Current Salary : RM 1.8k Benefits: Petrol (RM300/mth), Car Maintenance (RM300/mth) Working hours : Mon-Fri (8-5.30pm) I mean, honestly, is this underpaid? I feel like..... like crap. No commission even if i brought rm200k to company in 2months. ==" Anyhow, side-track abit, can i ask..... Isit correct/ethical if company do not want to accept Medical Certs? My company based in Klang Valley, i went to Johor, fall sick and take MC. Come back KL, they reject my MC. Unfair or acceptable? Regards to all. This post has been edited by JenLOI: Mar 13 2011, 02:13 PM |
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Mar 13 2011, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Mar 13 2011, 10:00 AM) If you think the 12months that you've spent for this internship is a fruitful experience, just put it into you CV and present yourself during interviews. You don't need ppl to keep telling you what you need to say or write in your CV. One of the main qualities that great interviewers in big organization looked for is the confidence of interviewees in believing what they can/could achieve. Such qualities are the type that's gonna leave a deep impression on the interviewers. |
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Mar 14 2011, 09:54 AM
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Lets put it this way alright? And this is going to be harsh but DO NOT THINK TOO HIGHLY OF YOURSELF. Your internship experience helps enhance your chance of securing the job / interview but it is by no means considered real working experience. Do not expect a senior pay when you come out for your first job. Everyone starts from the bottom. |
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Mar 14 2011, 12:53 PM
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usually people will just put internship experience as other experience..
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Mar 14 2011, 01:06 PM
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i did my internship in company A and after finish i done with my 6 internship, i continue to work with Comp A. guess what, i am getting the same pay with other freshie. p/s during my internship, i work like cow. carry out own research and analysis and present it in front of managers, work more then 12hours per day and work over the weekend are just normal. |
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Mar 14 2011, 02:28 PM
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Internship is internship
working experience is working experience. No doubt internship experience will enhance your resume and gives u a better chance at securing an interview / job. However, when you go out and look for a job, never look at urself as "an experienced worker". "True knowledge exist in knowing that you know nothing" |
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Mar 14 2011, 04:21 PM
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I see myself as a fresher and that's why I am here posting questions, thought I could see you guys sharing your experience and opinions. I just dont understand why you guys like to say things in a harsh way I didn not mean to challenge anyone or get into anyone's nerve in this thread at all. |
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Mar 14 2011, 04:23 PM
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@sunofabeach
Pardon me on that. I just tell out my points without beating around the bush. It is a harsh reality when you come out to work sadly:( If I did offend you, I apologize. I was just stating out my points in the most direct manner and hopefully you will view it constructively. |
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Mar 14 2011, 04:24 PM
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All I can see now from here is the environment is not encouraging and this could make more youngsters facing pressure in moving towards the begining of career
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Mar 14 2011, 04:27 PM
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@sunofabeach
Would you rather me tell you that the workforce is full of rainbows and butterflies with fairies sparkling gold and silver dust everywhere? This is to prepare people to face the working world which is harsh. |
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Mar 14 2011, 05:17 PM
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I dont know about you people encouraging youngsters out there.
Myself would nt say things like this to youngsters. Everyone knows the fact working is not easy, but at least letting youngsters begin the career and learn all the way with confidence. Sharing experience to youngsters is fine, but depressing them at 1st before they even have the chance to experience it. . I think that is not quite a right way. Anyway, that's just my thought,again I do not mean to challenge anyone in here. |
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