Hi all masters, I'm in a dilemma here.

A little bit of history. My first car was a Proton Waja, to which I upgraded to a Toyota Vios S in 2008. Now, I'm looking to make the jump to a continental vehicle. I'm not exactly very savvy when it comes to automobiles, hence this thread

I'm currently deciding between the VW Polo 1.2 and Peugeot 308 Turbo. My budget is below RM120k.

From what I've seen, here are the pros and cons:

VW Polo:
Pros
- Low fuel consumption
- Cheaper road tax
- Affordable servicing
- Powerful engine

Cons
- Small and low
- Basic equipment
- Disappointing interior


Peugeot 308 Turbo
Pros
- Nice interior
- More equipment
- Beautiful looking car

Cons
- A bit more pricey
- Not too sure about reliability


Most of my usage will be on city driving (driving to and from work, going out with friends) and once in awhile, highway driving to other states. Basically, 80% of it will be city driving and 20% will be on highways.

What do you guys think? Actually, I don't mind pre-owned vehicles as well as long as they are under RM120k. Any other suggestions besides from these 2 options? Or may I ask between the Polo and 308, which is a better bet?

p/s: Please don't suggest Ford Focus or Nissan Fairlady, my family already has 2 of those cars at home and it doesn't make sense to get another one.

Thanks guys!

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Added on February 26, 2011, 6:25 pmAnd oh, my preference is actually sedans, I really like Audi A4 but sadly it's far beyond my reach.

I guess I can try to accept hothatches, but only if they are really worth it

This post has been edited by blinky: Feb 26 2011, 06:25 PM

Second hand Mk 6 Golf GTi still a very shioking car to drive

May I know how much that car costs?

'Cos I tried looking for Golfs in motortrader and they are all in the 140k - 170k bracket

looks alone = 308

overall not awesome, but still good = polo

actually wanna suggest Focus, its the car i will buy with 120k in my hand, but u said already got 1

i know this is not continental, but have you checked out the honda crz? heard Honda bringing it to Msia for just about 120k...

Yeah I know about the CRZ but I'm really determined to make the jump to a continental

I'm actually eyeing the Lexus CT-200h Hybrid. But at RM165k it's over my budget

if ts dont insist on conti, 120k got plenty of choice....

but anyway, its good to have conti cars, good handling and built passion are guaranteed

308 Turbo if you don't care about depreciation.

u had the same dilema i had.. but rmbr conti cars has high maintainance hence u shud think bout that.

Polo has the ability to save u from petrol money..i calculated, it save like 1-2k per year in pertrol money...in long run u untung.. cons is the service centers are limited n the parts are so much more expensive for such a low tech interior.. it has the engine of year 2009 but interior like saga FL

308 engine is turbo 1.6L, i bought this, consumes alot of petrol, like a normal sedan. alot of interior specs that u might not even knw about. service centers are everywhere, it seems cheaper in terms of parts bcoz of Nasim Company support...the only distributer for Peugeot.

my decision which i had indulge for 4 months was Peugeot 308...wat say u?

when u love a car, value depreciation is NOT going to be a factor to stop u from owning it....

we buy cars to drive, not to sell.....

Thanks so much guys.

Keep the comments coming! I'll be out for the night so will check back later on

"conti cars got higher maintenance"

10 or 20 yrs ago, YES.....

but now? i strongly disagree......

try asking any experienced mechanic or technician, they will tell u the same.....

do u believe that a merc e-class from 90's will have an equal maintenance cost as any brand new camry/accord?

This post has been edited by geforce88: Feb 26 2011, 06:47 PM

Yeah I spoke the the VW salesgirl and a friend who owns the Polo 1.2

The service is every 15,000km. Each service is RM400+ which I think is acceptable.

Major service is RM1k++, still not too bad I think

It's a factor when the car can't satisfied you anymore.

oh- i mean not that maintainance...
like when u had accident, those maintainance...bumper n the lights are more than few thousand ady...

i knw is my car windscreen crack change will cost me 1.5k...
so i do have the money to spare but do think bout those la...

I will vote for the 308 1.6 THP. Interior is far better than the polo. I sat on the polo and the interior in my opinion is horrible for a german made car.Seats are abit smallish and not roomy.The 308 dashboard plastic has a soft feel to it.

If you care bout depreciation,try to look up for 2nd hand well maintained 308 in mudah. They are going for around RM90k. Word of caution,the Naza service centre charges exorbitant rates for car parts.You can try finding for peugeot specialist workshop which cost 40% less for similar parts.

This post has been edited by 779364: Feb 26 2011, 06:54 PM

I support Used Vw Golf or top up for a 1.4 golf

dun forget- the polo u buying in msia is made in south africa...hence the lower specs that u get compared than the 1 in germany...
there are many specs..if u can find the brochour..
the best type is not sold here..hence we get the lowest spec..

308 turbo 4-speed rite?
now 6-speed might be better

What are the differences between the 308 Turbo and 308 VTi?

Besides the power, of course.

for how long? 3 months? 2 years? 7 years?

u buy a car, u drive for many many years already, and the value surely gonna drop, that's pretty common....

but as long as u are driving or owning the car, there's no reason for u to worry about the selling price...

all u have to do is enjoy ur ride, appreciate it.....

ts got 120k to spend on a car, so spend it wisely and happily lah, if everyday worry about value depreciation, then might as well forever buy the "common" and "popular" car.......

drive it, enjoy it, feel it, not keep on worrying about depreciation.....

that's what a car is meant to be in the 1st place

i got the triptronic 6 speed with sports mode. nice to speed here n there, consumption also rises la.

dun forget that gearbox is made w porshe..

polo's DSG is made for lamboghini..

so u decide...in terms of engine n gearbox, polo wins hands down

i think he mean MK5

if mk6 minimum is 190k

May I know how much you bought the 308 for?

118k loh..exp...
but worth every penny i spend and im hepi w the car...
still damn hepi after coming bk from work i always tak sabar wan to drive the car home...drive w the turbo on...huhu

TS previously got a Vios, so I assume resale value is important for TS. Maybe the resale value of Vios is so great, then TS now has this much of money to spend on a car. Yes, the 308 Turbo is a very good indeed. But Polo not a bad car either. Like I said, if TS doesn't care about resale value, go ahead and take 308 Turbo.

Peugeot 308 is a very sensitive car but a very finest car. You can't simply mod it. And if ...BIG IF only it is manage by Peugeot France or any other distro EXCEPT NAZA, I would have bought it & be proud to tell you to do likewise!
It is engineered to be enjoy but should there be a major problem you will cry & scream till your internal organs comes out!
Very good car but NAZA?

Pug 308 thp 6 speed is from Aisin Japan, not in house.. but the tiptronic tech in deed from porsche..

DSG is in house by VW

cry and scream? where got so serious.....

well, they got the power and money, cant blame them

i admire them for having guts to bring in 'certain' models

and porsche is own by who... VW group haha...



TS, well it depends what you want... the 308 Turbo is CKD but Polo is CBU of course the tax structure made the price different by a lot...
but why don you try out both cars then tell us the pro & cons on the handling, comfort, noise, ergonomics (interior) and also the quality...
frankly speaking i do not see the maintenance is more expensive, but the body parts do cost you some money and also the difficulties to find parts after 10 yrs... for normal service parts and consumable parts i do not see any difficulties to find, it is the matter you go to the right place or not... VW parts you can get from some spare parts shop and there is always some one able to fix the older gens of VW in town... if not why ppl still driving beetle, "shervan", Golf (1,2,3 & 4) around, there is some ppl know how to service and change parts ...
but the experience of driving a conti is really pleasant... on the FC it does drink more petrol if you are on a conti coz if you really compare the gear ratio the conti's will be better for constant power but japanese car is more tune for comfort and smooth (except Mazda)... if you really drive a lot in the city the FC will be a lil higher than JP cars also... coz the weight of the cars does take more muscle to moves it, imagine small polo is more than 1 tonne which is about City's weight... Golf should be more than 1.3 tonne, is like a altis or civic...


happy scouting... just test drive 1st then u can make a decision easier, rather than listen to ppl saying...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Feb 26 2011, 07:46 PM

Well... if wanna drill down even further, the 308 1.6 thp Prince engine is an engine joint developed by BMW and PSA Peugeot Citreon..
Its the same engine used in Mini Cooper S...

So.. 308 has abit of Porsche and abit of BMW...

yea... well just test drive and see... buying cars is so personal preference... just like gf and also gadgets... some ppl say goood but some ppl say yucks...

I believe the new 6 speed 308 Turbo is also a CBU. At least the one my mum got 2 weeks ago was.

hmmm not sure recently seldom read auto news coz seldom online...

thanks for your info...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Feb 26 2011, 08:03 PM

I owned a Puegeot for 3+ years. I never went to a Naza workshop, always an ex-Peugeot workshop where people were much more experienced and had better work ethics. For regular service, Volcare KL in the Ampang area is great, their workshop is small but you get to see the mechanics do the work and talk to them. However they don't do major warranty service so for these I suggest either Kheng Soon in Chan Sow Lin or Geot Auto in PJ. I had fantastic service from Kheng Soon when they were troubleshooting my car for a melted wire which cause starting problems.

So personally I'd go for Peugeot, the new ones are fantastic value although the VW are good values too.


This post has been edited by tishaban: Feb 26 2011, 09:37 PM

i think 120k can squeeze a 2nd hand Mk5 golf gti. especially those older ones, year 2004 wald imported.
turbocharged 2.0 litre inline 4 with DSG. u can tapau civics, lancer gt, inspirar, and any car around the 100k range.

I had tested Pug 308 thp and for VW, I only test the Golf 1.4 TSI.. Bcos I was only interested in looking C-segment sedan at the moment .. so I cant say much for the Polo...

Pug is definately more spacious, very good visibility as the windows are huge except the rear one.. Power is superb not to mention the the torque.. Interior is quite above average for its class..

Polo i cant comment for its performance, interior looks dull but dont be foul by the material being used.. those are high quality stuff rather than plastics found in P1 and P2...

Both are fun car to drive IMHO... however TS, if you are a family person that wants to ship your family around and looking for a car <120k, Pug 308 thp is a better bargain because of its bigger space.. Since you prefer Sedan, this car is for you... Polo is in the Super Mini league along with cars like Mini..

However, if FC is a concern and at the sametime wants to hav some fun driving with conti car and dun mind the smaller space, Polo will be blardy good for that.. The VW badge smell nicer than Pug as well...

If you hav Extra budget... Golf

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 26 2011, 09:55 PM

Polo's DSG made for Lamborghini? I'm sorry, but could you please tell me which Lamborghini model uses a DSG box? Even the current outgoing Gallardo and limited edition SV uses a robotized single clutch gearbox. And the new Aventador LP700-4 uses a ISR gearbox which is developed by VW and its also a robotized single clutch box. So to correct you, Lamborghini does not use a DSG box in any of their models, and neither does Polo's DSG developed for Lamborghini. Please check your facts before influencing others to believe so.

from what I heard from the salesman it's cbu but registers as ckd. They remove the door separately then send the car over to Malaysia.

wow just the doors are made in malaysia??? funny... y naza can do this but others can't...

so can we conclude that everything can be 'ckd' as long as just 1 part is not completely assembled?

wow, if that's really the case, that means we are able to ckd almost every car, right?

i want a 'ckd' Ferrari California !!!!

??????

dude.. is your facts correct?? made in boleh land?

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 27 2011, 01:57 AM

if you know the right person, yes, thats how it works here.

no, there will not be cheap Ferrari, you can buy recon at naza world, which also sell some other CKD cars, low end than ferrari though, lol.

its a complete car then they remove the door from car, ship the door and car loose over back to malaysia and assembled here. Well it's what the salesman from Naza said. Whether it's true or not, we will never know unless some insider can confirm on this.

at least 140k for 2005 ones
not to mention some backup for repairs etc
with 120k budget you can't

golf gti can tapao C200 kompressor, type-R, why compare with Civic/lancer/inspira?

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Added on February 27, 2011, 6:49 amthat's one of naza's selling point for the 308... they'll tell you that the whole car is flown in with only the doors and wheels seperated, they only assemble the wheels and doors here... don't know cos never been to their factory...

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Feb 27 2011, 07:24 AM

actually gti can even tapao rm300k 325i sports

well in order to achieve CKD status they need to make some part in malaysia... that is the rules... duno how much things in the car is needed to be manufactured in the country... if not it will not have sharp decline on the cars... sales talk, disassemble and ship in

in Paultan blog i remember i read somewhere that ppl mention u need to meet 40% of local parts in order to have a good tax exemption...

well, the 308 they sold is less than 3000 units last year, i remember is 1000-2000 only.

i do not think they are able to source any parts to make locally, how to get ppl to manufacture a part for a mere 2000 cars?

even the good selling Kia forte, total only sold 5000++ since launch, look at the number, if anyone telling you they produce anything locally, they lied.

5000 T shirt can print la. the number simply doesnt justify any local production.

unless u can do like myvi, one month selling 7000-8000.

if you think again, how can naza one year launch more models than proton and perodua combined?

right? Perodua , the giant now, only launch ONE new model every TWO years.

ssshhhh, dont tell gomen.

who say Myvi one month selling 7000... the OTR registration statistic from JPJ is only around 3500 only...

big volume got the advantage of lower cost but u duno the brake disc, pads, lighting and some others invisible parts for the user they use local vendor... even Vios and City used a lot of local parts already wat... haha...
look into details u will see more...

so if you say low volume cannot localize then you are wrong...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Feb 27 2011, 09:36 AM

myvi average sales per month 6500 for 2010, total sold 77700, OTR statistic my arse, 3500units? those are stats in 2005.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...285&whichpage=2

those disc brake, light are all OEM. yes, from bosch, from automotive lighting,from ZF Steering all in malaysia. They'll export the OEM parts to other countries too.But we dont export cars( in a large quantity) to other countries.

there is no doubt about naza SA words about pasang door. The best they can do is assemble the car (in this case, doors) only. You set up automotive production line to sell an annual volume of 3000? 5000? lol. 308 turbo you're talking right? not 207 right? lol. Assembly line is much simpler, than making the whole car and source local parts.

look at the tyre 308THp and kia forte are using. You dont purposely import the tyre all the way from Germany and Korea/china to assemble in malaysia. You'll do it like inspira, get from Continental (Sime) in....Alorsetar Kedah.

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So, no, local stuff are good, just simply what can the public afford.

BTW, Merc S500 is also CKD in msia, not that we can afford it, its A million RM.

http://cbt.com.my/cbt-story/mercedes-benz-...global-presence
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Back to the topic, 308thp is a better buy compared to polo, look at the moon roof, priceless!

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Feb 27 2011, 10:19 AM

i only tested a few cars recently but not the Polo..

I'd say that for driving experience and ride comfort (front and back passnger included), for me it's gonna be Golf 1.4 TSI > Ford Focus TDCI > Peugeot 308THP.

There used to be reports of the 308THP jerking when driven in a jam when braking and accelerating but this was in the 4-speed model. Not too sure about the 6-speeder but when I tested it, it seemed ok.

I still say, take a test drive.. drive in a housing area with loads of speed bumps, stop and go conditions and highways for speed and corners. Then sit behind while asking someone else to drive to see how it feels like sitting behind.

Please get your facts right, it's a mid range spec to sell at the current price, before tax it is 78k ++ and the tax is about 38 k therefore its 100k ++ here. So its about the same as the fiesta but the fiesta is made in thailand therefore AFTA tax exemption. In Germany you get to choose what spec you would like , it's not necessary chock full of every option when you buy a polo in Germany ........ Back to his topic, if you want a bigger car get the Peugeot if you don't mind size...get the polo.... But most of all go test drive both...then you will know which to choose, btw the fiesta is a good car to get too if size is not an issue for you. If you can wait another year , get the vw jetta however you won't get the tsi engine....and btw cropika the 'outdated' 2009 engine you mentioned is years ahead of any 'new' non -continental car engine in the market now

Wow guys, thanks so much for the feedbacks!

Okay, I think I'm currently leaning more towards the 308 Turbo, because interior and comfort is very important to me, and the Polo's interior is a little off the mark.

May I ask how much is a pre-owned Volkswagen Golf 1.4 TSI selling for? Or are there even people selling it?

For those who suggested, no I'm not planning to start a family anytime soon. I'm only 25+ years old so yeah, at least 5 more years to go before I move on to my dream car - the Audi

Like I said, my car will be used for normal city driving, I'm a very active person so I'm out on the roads most of the time.

The thing about the 308 Turbo I'm worried about is the reliability and service. I've heard a lot of horror stories about Naza and the general mechanism of Peugeot cars.

Golf TSI pre-own 4 months about RM140k (not sure include light and sound or not).. check motortrader.com.my



This post has been edited by twincharger07: Feb 27 2011, 02:53 PM

ok my bad on the facts but to skip that huge sum of tax u need to have certain amount of things manufactured locally... i duno how Pug did it with Naza... but for my just assemble the doors to get that huge amount of tax exemption is a joke... don forget Naza have a assembly plant for Kia... it is not full assembly full assembly when they come in parts might be imported from Thailand and others places too...

no point to argue on this...

just to tell you Inspiria tires sucks... entree level for a car like that just like cheapo... BTW not only Conti has factory here (PJ also have), goodyear also in shah alam... there is still a lot of parts they manufacture here...

Yup this is a major issue.
One melted wire and you can't start the car!
Yup most of the horror stories about NAZA is true, basically they sell car and that's it!
After that you are on your own!

FYI, VW sells about a million cars a year in China, so I won't worry about cost or availability of parts.

308THP has a moonroof!!

and its a bigger car too!

If you love taking fast corner everywhere, then go for Polo.

but then, VW has some serious issue with after sales and their DSG gearbox too. can check in forum, and check the comments on paultan ( test drive golf 1.4 tsi page)

Naza has 1 boss, VW....all dealers are different. Test drive first la.

Some says after a while they get bored of the panoramic roof.

Well...


Yes, the 308THP has some reliability issues. But most of the owners are willing to trade those for the joy of owning it. Please log on here to read more on Peugeot 308.

well there will always pros and cons... just enjoy driving your car...

both also have serious after sales issue... so nothing to campare for after sales service..

c200 kompressor how many hp wor? less than golf gti 200hp right? besides that merc got lousy auto box le.

type-R also 200hp right? but unless the driver is good and can shift fast, its gonna lose to a golf gti.

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Added on February 27, 2011, 8:59 pmand also type-R with its vtek has no torque at all. gotta rev the shit out of it. i dont understand whats the thrill in it to see the vtec light come on.

golf gti got max torque already at 2k rpm and above. u can feel the surge.

This post has been edited by swhung: Feb 27 2011, 08:59 PM

Hi guys.

Do you think this is a good buy?

Click here

The only thing I'm worried about is the modifications done to it

with the modifications done to it, i dont understand why is it so cheap.
the car is quite new also.
must be a catch there. maybe u can go to the official vw service centre and ask them to check on the car.

I think it's cheap because VW was selling the Polo GTi for only RM99k just a year or 2 ago...?

And the Mazda 3 MPS will tapau all.....

you need to compare mazda3 mps with golf R no? peanuts with peanuts, cashew with cashew?

mazda mps 3 vs vw golf gti mk 6.

raw performance in your face car, mazda mps 3

refined,balanced and practical car, golf gti

TS, i would say go for the peugeot 308 turbo if you are not really in to driving aggressively always.

peugeot 308 interior is way better. the updated 308 turbo also has the new 6speed auto box. would help in consumption.

if you really can wait. i heard polo gti is coming to town..in the region of 140k.

Let me repeat, never ever go to a Naza workshop, there are others that are much more experienced and much more trustworthy plus they're still part of the Naza network so they can do official work and warranty repairs too.

- KL Volcare
- Kheng Soon
- Geot Auto

I owned a Peugeot for 3+ years and never went to a single Naza workshop.

I understand people's reluctance to buy Peugeot, I was too before I went ahead and got one but I'm surprised that everyone in Malaysia seems to think that VW is reliable. When I was in the US VW cars were considered to be the most unreliable German brand despite their cool marketing and very nice performing cars.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/depen...scending/page-/

They were comparing the GTi with 325i Sports, hardly peanuts. Anyway the Mazda MPS only cost RM 175K with 260 hp and 380 Nm. Its only has manual version though.

This post has been edited by tiganasfx: Mar 2 2011, 12:34 AM

Both the PUG 308THP and Polo 1.2 are hot hatches

I just tested the Polo and I say get this if you:
- drive this car alone or fetch minimal people
- wanna save a bit more fuel
- wanna go 0-100 faster than the 308THP
- like taking corners
- like driving small(er) cars
- like overtaking a lot of cars
- feels and seems better built quality compared to the 308THP

Or wait for the possible Polo Sedan made to compete with the Vios/City market (soon to be CKD together with the Jetta, China-Passat). Polo GTi will be kinda out of reach but you can still buy the Polo and later buy Polo GTi parts (fog lamps, LED grills, etc) to enhance your Polo.

Of course the problem about buying the Polo is that you'd probably get a lot of.. "waaa.. top up a bit and you can buy a Honda Civic or Accord liao...somemore got resale value..." kinda mumbo jumbo from relatives and other folks.

308THP has
- better interior
- more space
- looks better on the outside as well (not as sedated as the Polo)

I like it but I'm not very very impressed by it.

IMHO... PUG 308 is hot hatch same segment with golf which is C-segment..

while Polo 1.2 TSI is in Supermini category rival with mini cooper which more towards B-segment..

and mech LSD!!!!!!!!! Sorry hijacked the thread

This post has been edited by gladfly: Mar 3 2011, 12:03 AM

yup... Polo isn't that small to be a supermini.. the Mini Cooper is much smaller... of course that Smart car is much smaller..

I guess if interior is important (after all we're buying the car and we're the ones constantly sitting inside it driving it and we wanna enjoy it's interior), then the 308THP is a good choice.

Get 308 Turbo.

test drive both edy..hands down to the polo i gotta say..
interior dosnt look dull but seriously its good quality material..

This is what a sweet looking polo would look like (image from Bro Crocky in the LYN VW Thread)



This post has been edited by Mavik: Apr 6 2011, 12:41 AM

Guys..

I got the same dilemma..to polo or to 308 turbo -____-

I got a special price for the polo from a fren and today saw peugeot 308 turbo set at 1.88%...

Dont know what to choose..tested both and really like both..

Maybe shud just buy city

Don't use logic, just go with your heart!

Walow ehh..no offence to City owners..but but but..once you start conti..hard to turn back liao.

IMHO..get 308T if you need car now. If not wait for the Polo GTI, kena tambah (20k) but well worth it. Essentially you getting 180bhp and same specs of the Golf TSI at a cheaper entry cost. Dayummmm

Hahaa..if i got the money, i directly take the golf over anythg else..its ma dream car

Will need to go for another test drive again..huhuu

my fren tested both cars.. he bought POLO

I think i will go for Polo... Why not TS just go and have a test drive both model and u can feel it urself.

I would definitely go for Peugeot 308 Turbo..

Polo interior seriously

If i'm driving a car and the interior is not comfortable enough, that will totally turn me off..

Performance wise, i dont see Polo better than 308 besides the DSG gb.

Just my opinion

Tested both and find the polo more nippy than the 308thp... Step on the pedal and the polo really surprised me.

Seriously the Polo's only advantage is the 7-speed DSG. Otherwise the facelifted 308 turbo win hands-down.

But safety feature for Polo is kinda minimal.

No cruise control, no traction control and no stability control.

Pickup might better than 308 because of the light weight of Polo itself.

People normally dont choose 308 due to the sucky after sales service.

I'm not quite sure how there would really be an advantage with a 7-speeder and how it stacks up with a 6-speeder.

Safety features, I think both cars are equally good. I won't consider cruise control a safety feature... didn't quite like the 308thp's cruise control position as well.

About Traction and Stability control, I would say that the 308thp needs it. I took a pretty sharp corner on the Polo going 70-80km/h with confidence, something I didn't feel confident with taking (the same corner) when I was testing the Fiesta.

I'm not certain I swear by Traction and Stability control because... I've felt my Mini Cooper's TCS activate while driving in a heavy rain and wonder what it would be like without it. On the other hand, I also drive a '96 Alfa which safety feature is only 1 airbag and never had any issues driving in a heavy rain. Perhaps, its the tyres?

Would I buy the Polo, especially as a main car? Nope.. LOL.. its cramped inside. The gearbox while smoother than my Mini Cooper (and the Fiesta I tested), doesn't feel as smooth as other cars I tried, namely.. the new Golf, 308thp, 3008, Focus and even the Prius therefore, the pregnant misses said NO! It's not as comfy as a Beetle or the 308thp as well. Its a very.. very.. basic car with a really nice engine and gearbox and 6 airbags.

I will say however that the Polo would be a pretty neat 2nd car to drive around town, go to the market, go out for drinks when I go hang out with pals, etc. If I'm young, single and alone... I might buy it.

Then... would I buy a 308thp? I would love to (actually was eyeing the 5008 as well) but I wouldn't either... the 308thp seems to be riddled with quite a few nuisance and we all know how bad their after sales service is.

SO.. now I'm stuck not knowing which car to buy.. LOL

On the after-sales (aside from VW 5 years warranty)... according to the VW thread it seems the service level had been dropped recently, largely due to the increase of VW owners.

i have decided VW POLO .. you ?

Avoided Polo like the plague!

Just test drove both. Would pick the 308 Turbo over the Polo anytime.

Ford Focus TDCI not in your consideration???