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 VW Polo 1.2 VS Peugeot 308 Turbo, Please help

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twincharger07
post Feb 26 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(cropika @ Feb 26 2011, 06:58 PM)
i got the triptronic 6 speed with sports mode. nice to speed here n there, consumption also rises la.

dun forget that gearbox is made w porshe..

polo's DSG is made for lamboghini..

so u decide...in terms of engine n gearbox, polo wins hands down
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Pug 308 thp 6 speed is from Aisin Japan, not in house.. but the tiptronic tech in deed from porsche..

DSG is in house by VW
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post Feb 26 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 26 2011, 07:45 PM)
and porsche is own by who... VW group haha...
TS, well it depends what you want... the 308 Turbo is CKD but Polo is CBU of course the tax structure made the price different by a lot...
but why don you try out both cars then tell us the pro & cons on the handling, comfort, noise, ergonomics (interior) and also the quality...
frankly speaking i do not see the maintenance is more expensive, but the body parts do cost you some money and also the difficulties to find parts after 10 yrs... for normal service parts and consumable parts i do not see any difficulties to find, it is the matter you go to the right place or not... VW parts you can get from some spare parts shop and there is always some one able to fix the older gens of VW in town... if not why ppl still driving beetle, "shervan", Golf (1,2,3 & 4) around, there is some ppl know how to service and change parts smile.gif... 
but the experience of driving a conti is really pleasant... on the FC it does drink more petrol if you are on a conti coz if you really compare the gear ratio the conti's will be better for constant power but japanese car is more tune for comfort and smooth (except Mazda)... if you really drive a lot in the city the FC will be a lil higher than JP cars also... coz the weight of the cars does take more muscle to moves it, imagine small polo is more than 1 tonne which is about City's weight... Golf should be more than 1.3 tonne, is like a altis or civic... 
happy scouting... just test drive 1st then u can make a decision easier, rather than listen to ppl saying...    thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Well... if wanna drill down even further, the 308 1.6 thp Prince engine is an engine joint developed by BMW and PSA Peugeot Citreon..
Its the same engine used in Mini Cooper S...

So.. 308 has abit of Porsche and abit of BMW... laugh.gif
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post Feb 26 2011, 09:47 PM

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I had tested Pug 308 thp and for VW, I only test the Golf 1.4 TSI.. Bcos I was only interested in looking C-segment sedan at the moment .. so I cant say much for the Polo...

Pug is definately more spacious, very good visibility as the windows are huge except the rear one.. Power is superb not to mention the the torque.. Interior is quite above average for its class..

Polo i cant comment for its performance, interior looks dull but dont be foul by the material being used.. those are high quality stuff rather than plastics found in P1 and P2...

Both are fun car to drive IMHO... however TS, if you are a family person that wants to ship your family around and looking for a car <120k, Pug 308 thp is a better bargain because of its bigger space.. Since you prefer Sedan, this car is for you... Polo is in the Super Mini league along with cars like Mini..

However, if FC is a concern and at the sametime wants to hav some fun driving with conti car and dun mind the smaller space, Polo will be blardy good for that.. The VW badge smell nicer than Pug as well...

If you hav Extra budget... Golf thumbup.gif

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post Feb 27 2011, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 26 2011, 11:18 PM)
wow just the doors are made in malaysia??? funny... y naza can do this but others can't...
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??????

dude.. is your facts correct?? made in boleh land?

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post Feb 27 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 27 2011, 01:49 PM)
Wow guys, thanks so much for the feedbacks!

Okay, I think I'm currently leaning more towards the 308 Turbo, because interior and comfort is very important to me, and the Polo's interior is a little off the mark.

May I ask how much is a pre-owned Volkswagen Golf 1.4 TSI selling for? Or are there even people selling it?

For those who suggested, no I'm not planning to start a family anytime soon. I'm only 25+ years old so yeah, at least 5 more years to go before I move on to my dream car - the Audi tongue.gif

Like I said, my car will be used for normal city driving, I'm a very active person so I'm out on the roads most of the time.

The thing about the 308 Turbo I'm worried about is the reliability and service. I've heard a lot of horror stories about Naza and the general mechanism of Peugeot cars.
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Golf TSI pre-own 4 months about RM140k (not sure include light and sound or not).. check motortrader.com.my

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 27 2011, 08:32 PM)
308THP has a moonroof!! smile.gif

and its a bigger car too!

If you love taking fast corner everywhere, then go for Polo.

but then, VW has some serious issue with after sales and their DSG gearbox too. can check in forum, and check the comments on paultan ( test drive golf 1.4 tsi page)

Naza has 1 boss, VW....all dealers are different. Test drive first la.
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both also have serious after sales issue... so nothing to campare for after sales service.. sweat.gif

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post Mar 2 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Mar 2 2011, 02:40 PM)
Both the PUG 308THP and Polo 1.2 are hot hatches blink.gif
IMHO... PUG 308 is hot hatch same segment with golf which is C-segment..

while Polo 1.2 TSI is in Supermini category rival with mini cooper which more towards B-segment..

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post Jan 2 2013, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Dec 3 2012, 09:47 AM)
Obviously, go for polo. 308 will be excellent if the usage is for weekend car plus highway cruiser balik kampung car or the like.
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polo is equally competence on highway.. but too bad not so good if you hav alot of luggage during balik kampung


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QUOTE(Rich_Lim @ Dec 31 2012, 10:41 AM)
Having the similar dilemma too, wife driving 308 VTi & it's super sluggish when goin uphill... That kinda put a doubt in me on the car evnehtough it comes with 6speed if I'm not wrong; polo instant addicted but then again.. The space is a turn off

Few of my friend owned vw having prob with the gearbox, both golf & gti not sure abt polo though. Friends' 308t having probs with gasket & engine oil leak (3of them for the record purpose)

So for TS, I can't help but me myself in the same situation as you  rclxub.gif
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all 308vti only 4 speeder.. only the 308thp from late 2010 onwards are 6 speeder..
308 is a heavy car.. 1.6NA engine quite underpower for its weight..

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post Jan 24 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 8 2013, 02:42 PM)
LOL, so many people here describing the cars either from hearsay or imagination.

I have a 308T and my gf drives the new Polo.

1. FACT : 308T is a C-seg hatchback and has much bigger interior legroom compared to Polo. And yes even when the front seats are all the way back, it hardly touches my 5ft 10 inch frien's knees. Polo is smaller comparatively to the 208 or Fiesta which are all B-seg cars.

2. FACT : 308T has a more powerful engine and better torque compared to Polo and on a straight line the Polo will eat 308T's exhaust.

3. FACT : Polo is more economically efficient. Urban driving FC around 11 - 12 L / 100km whilt 308 T is around 10L/km. However both cars are similar on highway which is around 15-16L / km.

4. OPINION : 308T interior looks much better than Polo which technically is a Myvi car in other countries.

VW probably just souped it up abit here because they dont want to downgrade the specs (come on R17 tires ??? where other countries are only at R15) either because government intervention or they just wanna make more money.

Don't get me wrong, I like VW just that in our automotive tax heavy country, it is not value for money when this same car can be had for only USD 15k (or less), and wants to sell as high as the next segment car or even more.

Value-wise go for Peugeot. If you just branded conscious (everything must be Gucci and such), by all means go for the Polo.

Either way you won't regret it (just need to put up with the naysayers from VW or Peugeot depending on which car u get).
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your FC comparison is quite confusing...
however, vw increase polo pricing by 5k is not only for the 17inch tyre.. it includes other upgrades like foglamp, central armrest, ESP and upgraded radio din..

whether polo eat 308t dust or not i kinna doubt.. on paper, 0 to 100 is almost neck to neck.. i test 308t 6speeder before, can feel abit turbo lag.. despite higher torque n hp, its heavy and using Aisin torque converter tranny..

polo lighter but few hundred kg, less turbo lag due to lower turbo inertia, n dsg tranny..

no doubt 308t is value for money, thanks to its so called ckd.. yea, like polo which is other country's myvi, pug is like proton in other country also.. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Jan 25 2013, 11:54 AM)
the turbo unit is exactly the same.. but weight-wise, preve had no chance smoking pug308t lah... smile.gif
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308T using twinscroll Turbo, are you sure preve has the same engine as 308T?
they dont even churn out the same torque and power..

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QUOTE(Mamapapamsia @ Jan 29 2013, 09:59 PM)
To give u a rough idea of how the 308t loses to a polo tsi,watch this video.

Might not be that professional,but at least its something to prove that the 308t indeed is slower than the polo tsi and blow ur stupid 9.1s 9.7s theory out of the window fag.

I bet after u watch this vid,ur still gonna give some lameshit excuses!  shakehead.gif

308T vs Polo TSI
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no doubt for top speed, pug308t is faster.. higher speed require high max power n capacity

but for acceleration, it all comes down to engine, torque, transmission, power to weight ratio...

Pug might hav the higher torque and horse power, but peak torque at 2000rpm, bigger turbo with slightly longer turbo lag, heavier body, and very conventional 6 speed torque converter Aisin tranny..

Polo is lighter, peak torque at 1500rpm, and much more advance transmission gearbox...

9.1s vs 9.7s is pretty neck to neck and on real life, maybe its evenly match..

if wanna bring out the one that matched Pug308t in terms of power and torque, it got to be Golf TSI, and on paper, its already 0-100km/h in 8s.. having advantage on supercharge and DSG..

so, max power and torque is not everything, but the delivery is more important.. its just like giving Usian Bolt running with a balle shoe, it is still not able to unleash its raw potential..

anyway, just hav fun with your cars that you have... cheers.. wink.gif
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post Jan 30 2013, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jan 30 2013, 12:51 AM)
Those that drive 308T should know is the car adapt to the driving style...so for those always driving in the town...gonna be hard to get a good 0~100 figures...or even pass 170km/h....unless the sport mode or Tiptronic was used for that sprint purpose

Anyway, I could imagine the polo beat the 308T in the century dash, cause, even up against an ahbeng Vios, the Vios only loses by not much...can read the number plates of the Vios from the side mirrors....but of course, the 308T pulls away by miles after that.
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yes bro.. at higher speed, its all about who has a bigger balls.. Myvi, Saga can tapao a lot cars if they have bigger balls to go beyong 170km/h

I enjoy the quick dash off the line at green light, over taking at low speed in town, which comes pretty handy with the little turbocharge.. no chance of 100km/h in jam pack area, so who is quicker reaching 100km/h doesnt apply much in real life, but maneuver around town with ease with the help of the little turbo is much more practical.. 1500rpm is enough to charge the Polo forward at low speed..
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QUOTE(Ridt_Henshin @ Jan 30 2013, 05:54 PM)
haha both r not!
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agree,, racer different league than these
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Feb 7 2013, 11:19 AM)
Too bad the 1.4 TSi does not come with launch control. Not that it would surprise many if a Golf were to outsprint anyone else at the traffic lights .... but to see an old Skoda Octavia II pulling just as fast off the line can be quite fun.
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boss... saw your write up on Skoda, looks pretty nice after refurbishing it and great bargain.. mayb i should had thought of that getting a Fabia for RM25k tongue.gif ..

 

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