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 VW Polo 1.2 VS Peugeot 308 Turbo, Please help

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post Feb 27 2011, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Feb 26 2011, 11:21 PM)
so can we conclude that everything can be 'ckd' as long as just 1 part is not completely assembled?  hmm.gif

wow, if that's really the case, that means we are able to ckd almost every car, right?  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

i want a 'ckd' Ferrari California !!!!  laugh.gif
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if you know the right person, yes, thats how it works here.

no, there will not be cheap Ferrari, you can buy recon at naza world, which also sell some other CKD cars, low end than ferrari though, lol.
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post Feb 27 2011, 08:48 AM

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well, the 308 they sold is less than 3000 units last year, i remember is 1000-2000 only.

i do not think they are able to source any parts to make locally, how to get ppl to manufacture a part for a mere 2000 cars?

even the good selling Kia forte, total only sold 5000++ since launch, look at the number, if anyone telling you they produce anything locally, they lied.

5000 T shirt can print la. the number simply doesnt justify any local production.

unless u can do like myvi, one month selling 7000-8000.

if you think again, how can naza one year launch more models than proton and perodua combined?

right? Perodua , the giant now, only launch ONE new model every TWO years.

ssshhhh, dont tell gomen.
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post Feb 27 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Feb 27 2011, 09:36 AM)
who say Myvi one month selling 7000... the OTR registration statistic from JPJ is only around 3500 only...
big volume got the advantage of lower cost but u duno the brake disc, pads, lighting and some others invisible parts for the user they use local vendor... even Vios and City used a lot of local parts already wat... haha...
look into details u will see more...
so if you say low volume cannot localize then you are wrong...
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myvi average sales per month 6500 for 2010, total sold 77700, OTR statistic my arse, 3500units? those are stats in 2005.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...285&whichpage=2

those disc brake, light are all OEM. yes, from bosch, from automotive lighting,from ZF Steering all in malaysia. They'll export the OEM parts to other countries too.But we dont export cars( in a large quantity) to other countries.

there is no doubt about naza SA words about pasang door. The best they can do is assemble the car (in this case, doors) only. You set up automotive production line to sell an annual volume of 3000? 5000? lol. 308 turbo you're talking right? not 207 right? lol. Assembly line is much simpler, than making the whole car and source local parts.

look at the tyre 308THp and kia forte are using. You dont purposely import the tyre all the way from Germany and Korea/china to assemble in malaysia. You'll do it like inspira, get from Continental (Sime) in....Alorsetar Kedah.

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So, no, local stuff are good, just simply what can the public afford.

BTW, Merc S500 is also CKD in msia, not that we can afford it, its A million RM.

http://cbt.com.my/cbt-story/mercedes-benz-...global-presence
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Back to the topic, 308thp is a better buy compared to polo, look at the moon roof, priceless!

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post Feb 27 2011, 08:32 PM

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308THP has a moonroof!! smile.gif

and its a bigger car too!

If you love taking fast corner everywhere, then go for Polo.

but then, VW has some serious issue with after sales and their DSG gearbox too. can check in forum, and check the comments on paultan ( test drive golf 1.4 tsi page)

Naza has 1 boss, VW....all dealers are different. Test drive first la.
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post May 27 2011, 11:47 AM

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if you ask me, i think fiesta is too small, but if you dont need the space, go ahead.

i tried fiesta and forte 1.6 ( same price range) i would say forte is better, with all the electronics system, and paddle shift.

and after sales i think naza is better than ford. not much complain on naza after sales.

more complain on peugeot after sales, because, i guess its more expensive car and ppl have higher expectation.

but for below 120k car, i would take 308THP anytime smile.gif and then maybe 2.0 forte.
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post Mar 7 2012, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(zzuhairz @ Mar 7 2012, 06:09 AM)
same dilemma, torn between the 4 chicks:
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in summary, I think my main concern returns to its FC & maintenance - which 1 should I get, & why? icon_question.gif
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FC should be Diesel, maintenance is all the same, all has their fair share of problem.

but i must say that, if this is the first car in the family, and you dont have any problem sedan car, you might need to put priority on getting a bigger/roomier car. 2 years later when you are tired of speeding, and you kids grow bigger, and the car is so small.

so many times i saw ppl cramp 5 person in a polo. why not just use the money to buy an altis? 5 person in a polo is a joke. even 5 person in a golf is a joke. just my opinion though. its more than 100k car, it should at least be able to ferry everyone comfortably.

TDCI is bigger, torquey, best FC. but new version is coming, better wait. or wait for 308turbo sedan ( 408 ) polo gti, best as second car. but polo gti need to wait 1 year.

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post Mar 7 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 7 2012, 02:36 PM)
The Altis is so good they don't even bother to offer it in Europe, cause they don't want to ruin their competitors. That, or no one would buy it. It seems like the Altis was specially meant for developing countries.

5 person in a Golf isn't an issue, I traveled with 6 in an early 90s Nissan March with lots of luggage. Actually it was quite nice laugh.gif Everything is possible.

Ford SCs don't have a good reputation, Naza doesn't either. VW does, but the car really is at most a 4 seater.
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come on mate, i was sitting in the rear seat of a golf tsi to lunch, and...no, it sucks. lol. so small and cramped.

to ferry ppl as a family car, altis or focus is better than golf and polo. but.....thats just me smile.gif

as second car, yes, a polo gti would be even better biggrin.gif for wife to go to work, and for husband to blast around in the weekend.

golf and polo is ok for small family. 2 adult sitting in front is fine for both car biggrin.gif

mate, in 90s, you and I both are smaller than now.

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post Mar 7 2012, 03:00 PM

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just like how we wonder how can the original mini seat 4 ppl biggrin.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 07:12 PM

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those cars that you listed are fun with good handling , either one wont be wrong wink.gif

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