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 VW Polo 1.2 VS Peugeot 308 Turbo, Please help

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michael9413
post Feb 26 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Feb 26 2011, 07:20 PM)
Pug 308 thp 6 speed is from Aisin Japan, not in house.. but the tiptronic tech in deed from porsche..

DSG is in house by VW
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and porsche is own by who... VW group haha...



TS, well it depends what you want... the 308 Turbo is CKD but Polo is CBU of course the tax structure made the price different by a lot...
but why don you try out both cars then tell us the pro & cons on the handling, comfort, noise, ergonomics (interior) and also the quality...
frankly speaking i do not see the maintenance is more expensive, but the body parts do cost you some money and also the difficulties to find parts after 10 yrs... for normal service parts and consumable parts i do not see any difficulties to find, it is the matter you go to the right place or not... VW parts you can get from some spare parts shop and there is always some one able to fix the older gens of VW in town... if not why ppl still driving beetle, "shervan", Golf (1,2,3 & 4) around, there is some ppl know how to service and change parts smile.gif...
but the experience of driving a conti is really pleasant... on the FC it does drink more petrol if you are on a conti coz if you really compare the gear ratio the conti's will be better for constant power but japanese car is more tune for comfort and smooth (except Mazda)... if you really drive a lot in the city the FC will be a lil higher than JP cars also... coz the weight of the cars does take more muscle to moves it, imagine small polo is more than 1 tonne which is about City's weight... Golf should be more than 1.3 tonne, is like a altis or civic...


happy scouting... just test drive 1st then u can make a decision easier, rather than listen to ppl saying... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Feb 26 2011, 07:56 PM

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yea... well just test drive and see... buying cars is so personal preference... just like gf and also gadgets... some ppl say goood but some ppl say yucks...
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post Feb 26 2011, 08:02 PM

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hmmm not sure recently seldom read auto news coz seldom online...

thanks for your info...

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post Feb 26 2011, 11:18 PM

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wow just the doors are made in malaysia??? funny... y naza can do this but others can't...
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post Feb 27 2011, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Feb 27 2011, 01:54 AM)
??????

dude.. is your facts correct?? made in boleh land?
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Feb 27 2011, 06:44 AM)
golf gti can tapao C200 kompressor, why compare with Civic/lancer/inspira? doh.gif


Added on February 27, 2011, 6:49 am
that's one of naza's selling point for the 308... they'll tell you that the whole car is flown in with only the doors and wheels seperated, they only assemble the wheels and doors here... don't know cos never been to their factory...
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well in order to achieve CKD status they need to make some part in malaysia... that is the rules... duno how much things in the car is needed to be manufactured in the country... if not it will not have sharp decline on the cars... sales talk, disassemble and ship in sweat.gif

in Paultan blog i remember i read somewhere that ppl mention u need to meet 40% of local parts in order to have a good tax exemption...
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post Feb 27 2011, 09:36 AM

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who say Myvi one month selling 7000... the OTR registration statistic from JPJ is only around 3500 only...

big volume got the advantage of lower cost but u duno the brake disc, pads, lighting and some others invisible parts for the user they use local vendor... even Vios and City used a lot of local parts already wat... haha...
look into details u will see more...

so if you say low volume cannot localize then you are wrong...

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post Feb 27 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 27 2011, 10:10 AM)
myvi average sales per month 6500 for 2010, total sold 77700, OTR statistic my arse, 3500units? those are stats in 2005.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...285&whichpage=2

those disc brake, light are all OEM.  yes, from bosch, from automotive lighting,from ZF Steering all in malaysia. They'll export the OEM parts to other countries too.But we dont export cars( in a large quantity) to other countries.

there is no doubt about  naza SA words about pasang door. The best they can do is assemble the car (in this case, doors) only. You set up automotive production line to sell an annual volume of 3000? 5000? lol. 308 turbo you're talking right? not 207 right? lol. Assembly line is much simpler, than making the whole car and source local parts.

look at the tyre 308THp and kia forte are using. You dont purposely import the tyre all the way from Germany and Korea/china to assemble in malaysia. You'll do it like inspira, get from Continental (Sime) in....Alorsetar Kedah.

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So, no, local stuff are good, just simply what can the public afford.

BTW, Merc S500 is also CKD in msia, not that we can afford it, its A million RM.

http://cbt.com.my/cbt-story/mercedes-benz-...global-presence
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Back to the topic, 308thp is a better buy compared to polo, look at the moon roof, priceless!
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ok my bad on the facts but to skip that huge sum of tax u need to have certain amount of things manufactured locally... i duno how Pug did it with Naza... but for my just assemble the doors to get that huge amount of tax exemption is a joke... don forget Naza have a assembly plant for Kia... it is not full assembly full assembly when they come in parts might be imported from Thailand and others places too...

no point to argue on this...

just to tell you Inspiria tires sucks... entree level for a car like that just like cheapo... BTW not only Conti has factory here (PJ also have), goodyear also in shah alam... there is still a lot of parts they manufacture here...
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well there will always pros and cons... just enjoy driving your car...

 

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