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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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post Mar 13 2011, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(totila @ Mar 13 2011, 05:43 PM)
this is the current government empty talk, look at the bubble they blowing, and continue blowing.. (whn a person start lying, they need another lie to cover the previous lie, so they keep coming out this and that "scheme"s...)
that is the trick to win the younsters votes of coming election.
do u think still got developer willing to build a house/apartment under 220k?
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answer is yes, developers are running business, a good business will always adapt to changes to take the most out of a situation.
soon some developers will launch more and more smaller unit (be it a 350 sf studio / 550sf 2 rooms / 700sf 3 rooms). there are still so many variable for the developers to adjust themselves with the pricing. looking at the current trend, gov will also try their best to help sustaining the property market not to let it crash. youngster will still be able to own a property, the party continue.

developers sell sell sell, youngster buy buy buy, everyone wins. those who wait for property price to drop to buy their dream home, i wish you good luck
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post Mar 13 2011, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Mar 13 2011, 07:12 PM)
answer is yes, developers are running business, a good business will always adapt to changes to take the most out of a situation.
soon some developers will launch more and more smaller unit (be it a 350 sf studio / 550sf 2 rooms /  700sf 3 rooms). there are still so many variable for the developers to adjust themselves with the pricing. looking at the current trend, gov will also try their best to help sustaining the property market not to let it crash. youngster will still be able to own a property, the party continue.

developers sell sell sell, youngster buy buy buy, everyone wins. those who wait for property price to drop to buy their dream home, i wish you good luck
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ppl not wishing the price to drop, ppl only wishing the price don go up so crazy like now, government mati-mati push up the market with their "attractive" scheme, and unhealthy scheme tat can't afford by their own ppl ( i believe the government clearly know that)
of cause there are still many ppl who dun wish this is a bubble, nobody wish that, but, always with but, once it burst, the one who 1st lose their gold mangkuk are prop agent, and the ppl with a lot of props on hand.. cool2.gif <- this icon so damn fit!!

good luck~ haha~


Added on March 13, 2011, 7:38 pm
QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 13 2011, 07:11 PM)
developers willing to build house/apartment <220 but they also increase those house price  >220k to compensate their losses. the more low cost house the higher the mid to hi end house prices lor. the hi end will have higher impact coz rich will need to subsidy the poor.
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do u mind to share with us where can we get a new development project with 220k< ??
and i dun have transport, so dun wish to stay in ulu-ulu place... thanks in advanced

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post Mar 13 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 13 2011, 05:41 PM)
it's for lower income la... <3k pm income, want to buy bu or sj meh?

can go to the 100% loan home thread discuss further...
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QUOTE(totila @ Mar 13 2011, 07:30 PM)
ppl not wishing the price to drop, ppl only wishing the price don go up so crazy like now, government mati-mati push up the market with their "attractive" scheme, and unhealthy scheme tat can't afford by their own ppl ( i believe the government clearly know that)
of cause there are still many ppl who dun wish this is a bubble, nobody wish that, but, always with but, once it burst, the one who 1st lose their gold mangkuk are prop agent, and the ppl with a lot of props on hand..  cool2.gif <- this icon so damn fit!!

good luck~ haha~


Added on March 13, 2011, 7:38 pm

do u mind to share with us where can we get a new development project with 220k< ??
and i dun have transport, so dun wish to stay in ulu-ulu place... thanks in advanced
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Ya, actually that is what i m trying to say...THe scheme doesn't really make sense... Does the housing areas which cost 220k exist or not??? That's the main point...Unless, it is in ulu-ulu and inside some area dunno where...Well, low cost apartment most probably....NOw, even if those ppl that eligible to make a purchase where shud they go???? But still, if gov wants to launched this scheme at least has some senses....


p/s: Well, i am not thinking/expecting that property prices will go down at all... nod.gif
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post Mar 13 2011, 11:06 PM

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i think understanding the property in certain neighbourhood is very important.
neighbours shud owiz update among themselves bout the property price in the area.
n the reason wic cause it rise/drop (wic so far very few, even some property tht has bad condition oso raise their price, i think people "fry" price lar)
i cant see the reason for a property to drop its price, unless got ppl murdered there. or died there. or wat ever. for ths kinda reasons u have to get clues fr the neighbourhood one. not easy.


hehe, join www.i-neighbour.com is best lar, create neighbourhood network. strength the bond among neighbourhood so can share information easily.
let build the network together smile.gif kekeke advertise a bit tongue.gif tongue.gif


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post Mar 13 2011, 11:12 PM

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now i know why the prop price never go down...

美國億萬富豪華倫巴菲特曾經忠告投資者:“當其他人對市場前景表示樂觀時,我們應該警惕,當其他人警惕時,我們應該樂觀,這是他獨特的見解。”

because we too negative about the market.......

Yeah!!! I WANT PROP TO GO UP UP......
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post Mar 13 2011, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Mar 13 2011, 11:12 PM)
now i know why the prop price never go down...

美國億萬富豪華倫巴菲特曾經忠告投資者:“當其他人對市場前景表示樂觀時,我們應該警惕,當其他人警惕時,我們應該樂觀,這是他獨特的見解。”

because we too negative about the market.......

Yeah!!! I WANT PROP TO GO UP UP......
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hahaha... i'm not racist, but this is really typical ang mo b*llsh*t, especially rich angmo.
in what situation is consider "positive"?
and in what situation is consider "negative" leh?
according to few forumers in lowyat?? rclxm9.gif

i js finish watching INSIDE JOB, that is the good documentary about USA wall street 2008 crisis that cause global crisisi,
kinda interesting, js wanna share with all of u wink.gif
and i believe the 100% of the forumers ( including me ) is not that 1%, otherwise we wont hav time to b*llsh*t here. Thus 1% is busying having fun in "club"nw, while everybody still having empty talk here... hahahaha~
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post Mar 14 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(totila @ Mar 13 2011, 07:30 PM)
do u mind to share with us where can we get a new development project with 220k< ??
and i dun have transport, so dun wish to stay in ulu-ulu place... thanks in advanced
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If there is huge demand on properties below 220k, while those 500k properties lack of buyers, developers can always adjust their strategy.

Instead building 500K 1000sf. apartment, come out with 400sf 220k apartment...
or 500sf 220k but no car park given, need to pay 20K for it, and apartment has no tiles installed, need to add up 30k for it.
Selling price still 220k, but need to add on... for those facilities, give you the most basic.

Business is always flexible to demand.

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post Mar 14 2011, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 14 2011, 01:28 AM)
If there is huge demand on properties below 220k, while those 500k properties lack of buyers, developers can always adjust their strategy.

Instead building 500K 1000sf. apartment, come out with 400sf 220k apartment... 
or 500sf 220k but no car park given, need to pay 20K for it, and apartment has no tiles installed, need to add up 30k for it.
Selling price still 220k, but need to add on... for those facilities, give you the most basic. 

Business is always flexible to demand.
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Business On Demand.... ppl can pay RM30/month to rent the car parking space, pay higher monthly maintenance fee....to cover back their cost.

Crazy.
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:19 AM

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many many years ago, when teh tarik is 30cents, we drank happily.
inflation came, and teh tarik became 40 cents, we still drank happily.
inflation came again and teh tarik became 50 cents. we grumble but still shout to the mamak teh tarik please!
when sugar shortage came, teh tarik became 70 cents. we were upset but yet we still drank but ordering teh tarik kurang manis, hoping it will reduce the sugar consumption and hoping that the price will come back down.
teh tarik increased to 90 cents because petrol was suddenly increased substantially. mamak says it's due to logistics cost. we still order our teh because it's still cheaper than the canned drinks.
teh tarik went up to rm1.20, we still have it with our roti canai.
inflation came again, teh tarik is rm1.50, we curse here and there but yet we still order our tarik!
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 14 2011, 10:19 AM)
many many years ago, when teh tarik is 30cents, we drank happily.
inflation came, and teh tarik became 40 cents, we still drank happily.
inflation came again and teh tarik became 50 cents. we grumble but still shout to the mamak teh tarik please!
when sugar shortage came, teh tarik became 70 cents. we were upset but yet we still drank but ordering teh tarik kurang manis, hoping it will reduce the sugar consumption and hoping that the price will come back down.
teh tarik increased to 90 cents because petrol was suddenly increased substantially. mamak says it's due to logistics cost. we still order our teh because it's still cheaper than the canned drinks.
teh tarik went up to rm1.20, we still have it with our roti canai.
inflation came again, teh tarik is rm1.50, we curse here and there but yet we still order our tarik!
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many places still can drink teh tarik for only RM1.00 (big glass some more..). biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 14 2011, 09:19 AM)
many many years ago, when teh tarik is 30cents, we drank happily.
inflation came, and teh tarik became 40 cents, we still drank happily.
inflation came again and teh tarik became 50 cents. we grumble but still shout to the mamak teh tarik please!
when sugar shortage came, teh tarik became 70 cents. we were upset but yet we still drank but ordering teh tarik kurang manis, hoping it will reduce the sugar consumption and hoping that the price will come back down.
teh tarik increased to 90 cents because petrol was suddenly increased substantially. mamak says it's due to logistics cost. we still order our teh because it's still cheaper than the canned drinks.
teh tarik went up to rm1.20, we still have it with our roti canai.
inflation came again, teh tarik is rm1.50, we curse here and there but yet we still order our tarik!
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hehe.. u're trying to relate teh tarik with props or i read it wrongly ?
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 11 2011, 01:37 PM)
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First step to help the poor, introduce RPGT.
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Yes yes yes... let's fight for RPGT.
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 14 2011, 09:34 AM)
hehe.. u're trying to relate teh tarik with props or i read it wrongly ?
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spot on!
am not saying teh tarik will not come down in price. but when that happens, you might wish it never did! whistling.gif
let's study ways to make teh tarik cheaper:
1. reduce the content of either sugar, teh or milk.
2. reduce the volume of teh tarik served
3. SUBSTITUTE either sugar, teh, milk OR the WATER!
4. oh wait, see, the whole world is in their all time deepest recession. unemployment rate soared to more than 50%. hhmmmm, maybe we should reduce our teh tarik by 10 cents, no? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Mar 14 2011, 09:38 AM)
Yes yes yes...  let's fight for RPGT.
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pls... our gomen.. change from 5% to 40~60%..
i confirm very very little ppl is gonna invest the props..
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
i will vote BN if u do that...

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post Mar 14 2011, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 14 2011, 09:40 AM)
spot on!
am not saying teh tarik will not come down in price. but when that happens, you might wish it never did! whistling.gif
let's study ways to make teh tarik cheaper:
1. reduce the content of either sugar, teh or milk.
2. reduce the volume of teh tarik served
3. SUBSTITUTE either sugar, teh, milk OR the WATER!
4. oh wait, see, the whole world is in their all time deepest recession. unemployment rate soared to more than 50%. hhmmmm, maybe we should reduce our teh tarik by 10 cents, no? icon_rolleyes.gif
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nowadays i only order plain water during lunch or dinner...
and no more going mamak chit chating...
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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Mar 14 2011, 10:17 AM)
nowadays i only order plain water during lunch or dinner...
and no more going mamak chit chating...
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A. you have either gave up drinking this category of beverage totally - you are satisfied by other offerings in lieu of the conventional teh tarik
B. you have converted your consumption of this beverage elsewhere (eg. paparich, old-town) - upgraded and need not frequent mamak anymore
C. you have substituted drinking this beverage by having it in your home ala- 3-in-1 package - you still drinks it but drinking it differently

dr. seuss is in the house

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post Mar 14 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 14 2011, 10:35 AM)
A. you have either gave up drinking this category of beverage totally - you are satisfied by other offerings in lieu of the conventional teh tarik
B. you have converted your consumption of this beverage elsewhere (eg. paparich, old-town) - upgraded and need not frequent mamak anymore
C. you have substituted drinking this beverage by having it in your home ala- 3-in-1 package - you still drinks it but drinking it differently

dr. seuss is in the house
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gomen say change our life style in tough time maa
since i am in no good time
i change my life style loh
boleh!!! cool2.gif
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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 14 2011, 09:50 AM)
pls... our gomen.. change from 5% to 40~60%..
i confirm very very little ppl is gonna invest the props..
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
i will vote BN if u do that...
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Then they might increase your personal tax to 40% because investors start to leave to compensate for gov revenue.

Still vote them? tongue.gif

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aha.. as now BN make my life miserable..
i will surely won't vote for them biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 14 2011, 12:28 AM)
If there is huge demand on properties below 220k, while those 500k properties lack of buyers, developers can always adjust their strategy.

Instead building 500K 1000sf. apartment, come out with 400sf 220k apartment... 
or 500sf 220k but no car park given, need to pay 20K for it, and apartment has no tiles installed, need to add up 30k for it.
Selling price still 220k, but need to add on... for those facilities, give you the most basic. 

Business is always flexible to demand.
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hhmm.. from all ur great analysis and theory.. u still haven't answer my question yet..
i repeat it again --> do u mind to share with us where can we get a 220k new developement project? i don't have transport, so not wishing to stay in ululu place. icon_question.gif


Added on March 14, 2011, 11:46 am
QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 14 2011, 11:28 AM)
aha.. as now BN make my life miserable..
i will surely won't vote for them  biggrin.gif
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funny la u ! hahaha~

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