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 Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best v2, NP5160, NP5165, NP5175 w/ GT500 series

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post Mar 1 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(kpchoo29 @ Mar 1 2011, 05:58 PM)
Anyone is getting np8130? It seems there are many np8130 users encounter random freezing problem.
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is it an early batch before intel realize the issue on sandy bridge?
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Mar 1 2011, 06:27 PM)
is it an early batch before intel realize the issue on sandy bridge?
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Yes, but for now still no answer whether it is related to sandybridge.
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post Mar 2 2011, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Mar 1 2011, 04:13 PM)
NP8130 (2630QM/2720QM + GTX 460M) = NP8690 (920/940XM + HD 5870M) in terms of performance. Sure the Sandy Bridge CPUs are faster but the bottle neck of that model comes from the GPU. The NP8130 can't support the XM model of the new SB while the NP8690 can still be upgraded to the XM model of its generation.

I think if I try and sell for around 3.5k ~ 3.8k, it should still pass because I have an extra GPU that goes with the package (GTX 280M). I still haven't decided on whether or not to sell this baby. Still thinking and gathering all the input I can.
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QUOTE(kpchoo29 @ Mar 1 2011, 05:58 PM)
Anyone is getting np8130? It seems there are many np8130 users encounter random freezing problem.
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This is not the case. It's not only happening to Sager models but also other manufacturers.

But the thing is, there's only very handful of Sandybridge laptops that were out from January. There's not enough evidence, and not enough users to report the problem. I am wishing that the "freeze" in most laptops are fixed or ridden off after the new fix, if it really existed.
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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 2 2011, 05:44 AM)
This is not the case. It's not only happening to Sager models but also other manufacturers.

But the thing is, there's only very handful of Sandybridge laptops that were out from January. There's not enough evidence, and not enough users to report the problem. I am wishing that the "freeze" in most laptops are fixed or ridden off after the new fix, if it really existed.
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I see...aikz really hope they get rid of the problem soon. Now really make me worry whether should I go for sager..since the warranty is an issue.
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post Mar 2 2011, 07:55 PM

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Well, Sager/Clevo decided to release a new model at CeBit 2011.

A refresh of the X8100 with SB processors, dubbed the P180HM. This was their 18.4" lineup previously. Very...uncreative of Clevo. Guess that's inevitable due to the new models they've already released, bit too soon for another one I think.

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post Mar 2 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Mar 1 2011, 04:13 PM)
NP8130 (2630QM/2720QM + GTX 460M) = NP8690 (920/940XM + HD 5870M) in terms of performance. Sure the Sandy Bridge CPUs are faster but the bottle neck of that model comes from the GPU. The NP8130 can't support the XM model of the new SB while the NP8690 can still be upgraded to the XM model of its generation.
Well getting the NP8130 is not a problem then as long as you are not planning to get the XM model correct me if I am wrong.

I think just 2720QM would do.

Anywayz I am going to get myself an NP8130

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Mucro Sager NP8130

Screen and Screen Type: 15.6 inch FHD/Matte 16: 9
SYSTEM CPU: CORE i7-2720QM 2.2 GHz (+ MYR486.86)
Graphics Card: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M w/1.5GB GDDR5
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond (+ MYR117.53)
SYSTEM MEMORY UPGRADE: 8GB DDR3 1333 SDRAM 2x4G
HARD DISK DRIVE UPGRADE: 500G 7200rpm SATA
Wireless Card: 802.11B+G+N Wi-Fi + Bluetooth Combo Card
OS: No OS (- MYR251.83)
OPTICAL DISK DRIVE | * Internal Optical Drive not included with HDD and Caddy Case purchase: 8X Super Multi Drive
External USB ODD Drive: none
Addon Slot 1: none
Express Card Slot: none
External: none
Carrying Bag: included
Sager Pixel Warranty: none
Sager Warranty | parts: 1 year warranty(parts)
Addon Local Mucro Warranty | labour: 1 year Regional carryin (labour)
Microsoft Office | only with OS: Microsoft Office Starter 2010
Rush Service | This is not Shipping and Handling: none
Extra AC Adapter: none
Extra Battery: none
Car Adapter: none
Mouse Addon: none
Mousepad Addon: none
Headphone Earphone Addon: none
Notebook Cooler: Zalman ZM-NC1000 NOTEBOOK COOLER (BLACK/ SILVER) (+ MYR174.59)

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Anyone have suggestions/critics on my choice of upgrades what can be improved and what not?
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post Mar 2 2011, 08:02 PM

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++ more hdd than cooler la or get momentus XT

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post Mar 2 2011, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(teamloks @ Mar 2 2011, 08:02 PM)
++ more hdd than cooler la or get momentus XT
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I think that 500gb is more than enough for me and I prefer my laptop to be really cool.


Added on March 2, 2011, 8:11 pmPlus when I saw the review on xoticpc on NP8130 and NP8150 and saw the difference between a Matte screen and Glossy I just knew that going Matte is a clear win =)

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QUOTE(okf987 @ Mar 2 2011, 08:07 PM)
I think that 500gb is more than enough for me and I prefer my laptop to be really cool.


Added on March 2, 2011, 8:11 pmPlus when I saw the review on xoticpc on NP8130 and NP8150 and saw the difference between a Matte screen and Glossy I just knew that going Matte is a clear win =)
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I will second on the Momentus XT. It is a 500GB with an inbuilt 4GB SSD, and I'm pretty sure you will get a LOT of performance boost in comparison with the 7200RPM drive you chose.
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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 3 2011, 05:44 AM)
I will second on the Momentus XT. It is a 500GB with an inbuilt 4GB SSD, and I'm pretty sure you will get a LOT of performance boost in comparison with the 7200RPM drive you chose.
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I'm not sure if either mucro or cube.asia give that option to upgrade. Gona check it out than.

Thanks for the replies.
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post Mar 3 2011, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(okf987 @ Mar 3 2011, 08:37 AM)
I'm not sure if either mucro or cube.asia give that option to upgrade. Gona check it out than.

Thanks for the replies.
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Its there. The option that says "500G 7200RPM w/4G SSD". An extra RM 223 but worth every cent. Google the reviews. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 3 2011, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Mar 3 2011, 08:43 AM)
Its there. The option that says "500G 7200RPM w/4G SSD". An extra RM 223 but worth every cent. Google the reviews. biggrin.gif
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Yea I see it thanks for the replies =)

Can't wait for the new shipments to arrive!

I just noticed Sager now giving upgrades to Killer Network cards. Are they a good investment for my NP8130?

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QUOTE(okf987 @ Mar 3 2011, 08:55 AM)
Yea I see it thanks for the replies =)

Can't wait for the new shipments to arrive!

I just noticed Sager now giving upgrades to Killer Network cards. Are they a good investment for my NP8130?
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If you don't need bluetooth, and want a larger range for your wireless...then you should opt for that one. The Killer network card is pretty much like a wireless gaming network card; stable but would not be as fast as the Intel 6300 Ultimate cards.
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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 3 2011, 11:41 AM)
If you don't need bluetooth, and want a larger range for your wireless...then you should opt for that one. The Killer network card is pretty much like a wireless gaming network card; stable but would not be as fast as the Intel 6300 Ultimate cards.
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Noted I might get the Killer NC. Browsing the net for resellers that gives best price (mucro.asia, cubehub.asia and I might go for XoticPc).


Added on March 3, 2011, 2:13 pmThis will probably be my final customization for the NP8130 tell me if there is room for improvements. (Upgrades are in Bold)

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15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- -2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM, 2.2-3.3GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Software
- ~ 80GB Intel X25-M Solid State Drive (SSD2 Serial-ATA II)
- ~ 500GB (w/ 4GB SSD Memory) Seagate XT 7200RPM NCQ Hybrid (Serial-ATA II 300 - 32MB Cache) in Optical Bay
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Back Up Software
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Xotic PC Gear
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QUOTE(okf987 @ Mar 3 2011, 01:17 PM)
Noted I might get the Killer NC. Browsing the net for resellers that gives best price (mucro.asia, cubehub.asia and I might go for XoticPc).


Added on March 3, 2011, 2:13 pmThis will probably be my final customization for the NP8130 tell me if there is room for improvements. (Upgrades are in  Bold)

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If you're gonna go with a SSD as a primary drive, get a larger drive as a secondary. No point putting the Momentus XT. You won't see much of a boost in performance with that setup. Go for the 750GB 7200RPM @ 500GB 7200 RPM option. smile.gif

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post Mar 3 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Mar 3 2011, 02:29 PM)
If you're gonna go with a SSD as a primary drive, get a larger drive as a secondary. No point putting the Momentus XT. You won't see much of a boost in performance with that setup. Go for the 750GB 7200RPM @ 500GB 7200 RPM option. smile.gif
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Noted thanks for the reply =)


Added on March 5, 2011, 12:44 pmAlrite guys I just pre-finalized my NP8130 customization this is what I came up with.

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USD 1544 from cubehub.asia not including shipping charges. (#Option 1)

Display:15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finished Surface (1920 x 1080)
Zero Dead Pixel Insurance:None
Video & Graphics Card:Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M GPU with 1.5GB GDDR5 Video Memory
CPU Processor:2nd Generation Intel® Core? i7-2720QM Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache 2.20GHz) (add 160)
Thermal Compound:Stock Standard Thermal Compound
Operating System:No Operating System
Memory:8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 2 X 4GB
Primary Hard Disk Drive:80GB Intel SATA2 Solid State Disk Drive (add 150)
Optical Drive :8X DVD±R/RW/4X DL Super-Multi Drive
Additional Hard Drive in Optical Drive Bay :320GB (7200rpm) HDD plus Caddy Case (add 75)
Wireless Network Card:Internal 802.11 B G N Wireless LAN Bluetooth Combo Module
Primary Battery:Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
TV-Tuner:None
Microsoft Office:New! Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included in Price
Additional Power Adapters:None
Additional Battery Pack:None
Additional Optical Drives:None
Warranty:Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty (Both Shipment Cost by User)
Rush Service (This is not the Shipping & Handling Charge!):None

USD 1547 from XoticPc not including shipping charges (might go for them due to them having better warranty and reputation) (same spec's as above) (#Option 2)

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I decided to do away with the IC Diamond thermal compound trading that over for a intel 25xm SSD for performance over cooling and probably get a zalman lappy cooler. Also I do not think that Bigfoot's Killer Network card will make any significant difference (correct me if I am wrong). Overall what do you pros think of my selection? Room for improvements or upgrades you think I can throw away for and replace another?

And which reseller should I get it from taking everything into condition (Price, Before/After Sales Service, Reputation) Option #1 or Option#2? And since Sager has yet to recover from the SB flaw maybe I am missing some other sites out there or local resellers here on lowyat I could probably get my lappy from. Suggestions anyone?

And please excuse me for being indecisive just investing so much on a laptop want to get the best bang for my buck.

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post Mar 5 2011, 02:58 PM

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how fast can i get the laptop here in msia if i order today from mucroasia or cubehub how many days in total?
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Mar 5 2011, 02:58 PM)
how fast can i get the laptop here in msia if i order today from mucroasia or cubehub how many days in total?
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For Johor, the shipment cost will be USD$120.
Sager will start shipment next week so if you order this week. Your chance of getting one will be within next two weeks.
Thanks

Sales Team
CubeHub Enterprise
170 Upper Bukit Timah Rd #04-21
Bukit Timah Shopping Centre
Singapore 588179
Tel: +65 64678318
Fax: +65 64678310


I got that email on 3/3/2011 so prob around 20th+
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cubehubasia price is very good i configured np8170 at around rm 5.2k with 2720qm+gtx 470m at default but shipping is very high from sg tl selangor its usd 130 should sgd 100 at best do they have any other cheap shipping options?


2. can i pay by maybank online transfer?

3. do i have to pay taxes? when it comes to msia
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Mar 5 2011, 03:42 PM)
cubehubasia price is very good i configured np8170 at around rm 5.2k with 2720qm+gtx 470m at default but shipping is very high from sg tl selangor its usd 130 should sgd 100 at best  do they have any other cheap shipping options?
2. can i pay by maybank online transfer?

3. do i have to pay taxes? when it comes to msia
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You can try asking them. Might wire transfer to them or money order.



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