no more nokia after this. their reign is over

a) really? even those aunties and uncles who know nothing about the OS they're using? XD my gf's dad is using Xperia X10 mini pro...and he knows nothing about the OS...he just said, "WOW it's SOOO FAST!!! COMPARED TO SO MANY PHONES I'VE USED IN MY LIFE in 20 years!!!"

b) this i agree with you, symbian is usable, but it's outdated, especially its interface, they shud get on with it...

c) i'm a Microsoft hater but a Nokia lover, so errr......i hate Microsoft for their dirty business tactics, how they say Linux is inferior to M$ software when their software itself is flawed, and how they treat Linux users...i love Linux but I did not hate Microsoft, until i got deeper into the Linux world and learned about how Microsoft treated Linux...but funny, when it comes to hardware, i don't mind at all...i'm using a M$ mouse, and i dream of getting an Arc Mouse...so err?

and what do you mean lousy handphone maker?

- Samsung makes lousy handphones?
- Sony Ericsson makes lousy handphones?
- LG makes lousy handphones?
- Motorola makes lousy handphones?
- HTC makes lousy handphones?

so everybody makes lousy handphones except Nokia?

or you're saying that lousy handphone makers use android in their phones too? like those cheap shanzai phones from china, which many are utilizing android as their main OS instead of MTK because android is free and can be customized easily to their needs?

Just so that you know, the number of these shanzai handphone makers don't represent the majority of handphone makers....they don't represent quality handphone makers...

So what do you call people who love Microsoft and refuse to know and learn the truth behind things? Microfag? Smallfag? Picofag? Femtofag?

soon, somebody might just say, Microkiafag butthurt coz even after Microkia marriage happened and rolled out their awesome product running WP7 and hardware from Nokia they still fail to get even a significant % of market share.

a) really? even those aunties and uncles who know nothing about the OS they're using? XD my gf's dad is using Xperia X10 mini pro...and he knows nothing about the OS...he just said, "WOW it's SOOO FAST!!! COMPARED TO SO MANY PHONES I'VE USED IN MY LIFE in 20 years!!!"

b) this i agree with you, symbian is usable, but it's outdated, especially its interface, they shud get on with it...

c) i'm a Microsoft hater but a Nokia lover, so errr......i hate Microsoft for their dirty business tactics, how they say Linux is inferior to M$ software when their software itself is flawed, and how they treat Linux users...i love Linux but I did not hate Microsoft, until i got deeper into the Linux world and learned about how Microsoft treated Linux...but funny, when it comes to hardware, i don't mind at all...i'm using a M$ mouse, and i dream of getting an Arc Mouse...so err?

and what do you mean lousy handphone maker?

- Samsung makes lousy handphones?
- Sony Ericsson makes lousy handphones?
- LG makes lousy handphones?
- Motorola makes lousy handphones?
- HTC makes lousy handphones?

so everybody makes lousy handphones except Nokia?

or you're saying that lousy handphone makers use android in their phones too? like those cheap shanzai phones from china, which many are utilizing android as their main OS instead of MTK because android is free and can be customized easily to their needs?

Just so that you know, the number of these shanzai handphone makers don't represent the majority of handphone makers....they don't represent quality handphone makers...

So what do you call people who love Microsoft and refuse to know and learn the truth behind things? Microfag? Smallfag? Picofag? Femtofag?

soon, somebody might just say, Microkiafag butthurt coz even after Microkia marriage happened and rolled out their awesome product running WP7 and hardware from Nokia they still fail to get even a significant % of market share.

Example is HTC really make lousy handphones. Just look at the camera and GPS. Lousy compare to Nokia.
Just accept the fact that only Nokia can make gooding hardware yo.

Well, soon is future. Let's see how it work out. But I have good feeling in this.

Also, you hate M$ because of their business tactic? hahahahahahahahahaha ... tat's really ... laughable yo

So, you buy phones only for GPS and camera? Then why get a phone at all?

Yes as the future unfolds we will all see.

Seems like you don't know anything, as though your knowledge is built upon advertisements and other marketing ads. That's why you can so casually laugh at the matter

@randytsx, no point entertaining him. You've done your best to present your points. Better save your energy for better cause. gogo2 is an obvious fanboy who doesn't understand the severity of a failed venture to Nokia at this moment. When he sees the light he will understand.

@randytsx, no point entertaining him. You've done your best to present your points. Better save your energy for better cause. gogo2 is an obvious fanboy who doesn't understand the severity of a failed venture to Nokia at this moment. When he sees the light he will understand.

While i am a Nokia user as well and i like it, i also think gogo2 is a little bit too 'far" about it.

gogo2,

  I also like Nokia as well and reluctant to toss it for any brand yet, but try keep this to yourself. Hardly anyone is appreciating your effort as well. Just spend your time in more meaningful post if you are addicted to LYN like me, especially in the cupid corner or kopitiam. 

Nokia made 100% good phone. So having a good GPS and camera means Nokia is great camera maker and HTC is lousy camera make
which I have said earlier. I just reply a question. I don't mean to say phone is for GPS and camera. Don't put words into my mouth.

I laugh at the matters because I buy phone that is good. Not based on how M$ do their business last time. That's why I'm laughing
at him and now I'm laughing at you now. You guys are like those idiot tat boycott Jews product but their computar CPU is made
by Jews. Hahahahahaha

Wow, who are you? How you know the venture is failed? You're some clairvoyant from the future? But unfortunately you're not.
You're just some fanboys butthurt because Nokia dun wan to make phone for lousy OS such as Android. 

How can it be too far when Nokia is making great hardware couple with great OS like WP7?

I'm posting meaningful post here by tell people why Nokia and Microsoft will win. Else, they won't married if they won't succeed.

I believe those that bash this glory alliance that have problem. They simply can't stomach the fact that Microsoft and Nokia will
be the greatest mobile manufacturer in the future.

As we know, Nokia sure die if they do anything soon. Symbian? haha.. Meego? I believe they know Meego is a problematic OS
for now since its probably not full fledge yet.

If you think people need to appreciate my effort, then you're wrong. They are just fanboys. They are the one who should rethink
why they hate M$ in the first place. Don't be like kid ok. Hatred is not welcome here in phone thread.

It's tiresome trying to explain facts to somebody who refuse to understand....First, are you even tech-savvy? Do you even know anything about what you're talking about? How much knowledge of computers and IT that you know? Why don't you go into the Android and Linux world and learn more about them first. No offense, but you're making yourself look more and more dumb and irrelevant with every post here... and also in the other threads that you posted your replies... I think it's best that you stop. If you are urged to reply, Google for more info first, and learn not only about WP7 / iOS or anything that only you are in favour of, but also things that you don't like because of ignorance, like Android, or even Linux.

You look like you're getting paid by Microsoft or Nokia to post here. Well, maybe you're doing this for the money...but if that's the case... ah well... sigh...

gogo2, I said the 'severity of a failed venture'. I did not say that the venture is a failed one.

Most of us who voiced our disappointment over Nokia choosing WP7 is because we see the adoption level of WP7 by USERS, which is disappointing to say the least. If this trend continues, the venture will fail to yield, which means Nokia going down.

Yes I butthurt coz Nokia did not choose android, or else Android will have good hardware. But even without Nokia, Android as a whole has been creeping up Nokia's @$$.

We're talking about brand survival here, and Android obviously offers a much better expansion and survival package. HTC will survive w/o WP7, so does Samsung, LG or Dell, because they all have Android.

But Nokia WILL, since they are all into this venture (like gamble 'Sai Lang'. Go watch God of Gamble if you dunno wat it means). If it fails, Nokia will be off the smartphone world. I don't even know the other possibility is because the chances of Nokia going #1 with WP7 is very very bleak.

If I continue to argue, the thread will get more and more irrelevant. Because you don't understand, and you refuse to understand, I need to go through a very complicated process, but even that doesn't guarantee that you'll learn.

First, I need to Google for links to all the websites that talk about Free & Open Source software, the concept of software freedom, then Linux, itself has many many different distros serving many many purposes, each distro with countless documents, tutorials and guides, before that you need to learn programming and scripting, which, consist of many many different languages, then talk about the various processors a particular Linux distro could run on, then before you could understand everything, you need to learn about mobile processors, then mobile platforms, what a mobile OS should be like, before you come to specific mobile OSes like WP7, iOS and Android.

And that's not all yet. *gasp*

So, you still insist that I continue to debate with you? That's why I told you, go learn before you say anything. Don't talk so much but all are pointless and makes you look like you don't know anything (which is, true?).

^WTH? You only started to read after I posted that? Or I did not make my point about 'brand survival' much more clearer in my previous posts?

I've been talking about brand survival since the start of the discussion. I would appreciate it more if you would've understood everything me and randy said in earlier posts.

I'm not sure why we talking about open source now. Are you saying that open source is the best? 

Because you're insulting Android without knowing anything. Do you know Android uses a modified Linux kernel? Do you know what's Linux?

PLEASE MOTHERf***ING LEARN ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW BEFORE POSTING.

Yes, open source is the best. Do you know what OSes or platforms most websites are hosted on?

EDIT: I feel bad for TS, sorry.  gogo2 if you want to continue the debate, open a new thread and we can play there.

Symbian and Meego will stay...they can't afford to alienate current symbian's huge user base of course.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-a...windows-phone-b