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 Nokia and Microsoft enter strategic alliance !, Symbian will be phased out, Meego stays

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post Feb 11 2011, 04:13 PM, updated 15y ago

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Symbian and Meego will stay...they can't afford to alienate current symbian's huge user base of course.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-a...windows-phone-b

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Amazing day, eh? Something many of us thought would never happen just hit the smartphone industry like a sweaty madman screaming at developers. But rest easy, even though Windows Phone 7 is being billed as Nokia's "primary smartphone platform," your OS hasn't suffered an untimely death, MeeGo and Symbian fans. Here's what Nokia has in store for MeeGo:

    "Under the new strategy, MeeGo becomes an open-source, mobile operating system project. MeeGo will place increased emphasis on longer-term market exploration of next-generation devices, platforms and user experiences. Nokia still plans to ship a MeeGo-related product later this year."

Likewise, Symbian isn't going away either:

    "With Nokia's planned move to Windows Phone as its primary smartphone platform, Symbian becomes a franchise platform, leveraging previous investments to harvest additional value. This strategy recognizes the opportunity to retain and transition the installed base of 200 million Symbian owners. Nokia expects to sell approximately 150 million more Symbian devices in the years to come"

Jo Harlow, new exec in charge of Smart Devices, will grab the MeeGo reins in addition to responsibility for Symbian Smartphones and and Strategic Business Operations.


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post Feb 11 2011, 04:16 PM

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WP7 and Meego are in conflict, if they go with WP7, you can expect meego to "die". As a platform, nokia cannot have 2 competing products, they have to choose one. Sadly, it seems like they chose the inferior platform sad.gif


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post Feb 11 2011, 04:35 PM

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Wrong move.. Should have choose Android.

Well what to do, the current new boss was ex-microsoft...so he choose to alliance wth his own ex-boss.


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post Feb 11 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Feb 11 2011, 04:16 PM)
WP7 and Meego are in conflict, if they go with WP7, you can expect meego to "die". As a platform, nokia cannot have 2 competing products, they have to choose one. Sadly, it seems like they chose the inferior platform sad.gif
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MeeGo = open source.
It won't die one. xdadevs will embrace it. brows.gif

QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 11 2011, 04:35 PM)
Wrong move.. Should have choose Android.

Well what to do, the current new boss was ex-microsoft...so he choose to alliance wth his own ex-boss.
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MeeGo is based on linux and can run Android apps. I say i'll be a good competitor to Android.
But we'll see how it goes.
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post Feb 11 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 11 2011, 04:35 PM)
Wrong move.. Should have choose Android.

Well what to do, the current new boss was ex-microsoft...so he choose to alliance wth his own ex-boss.
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Maybe he was planted there and this was Microsoft's goal. Now there's even more brand recognition for Microsoft.
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post Feb 11 2011, 05:08 PM

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Yeah...I also having the same feeling....more like reverse take over of Nokia by Microsoft
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post Feb 11 2011, 05:50 PM

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still can dual boot ma
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post Feb 11 2011, 06:13 PM

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meego android dual boot?haha.
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post Feb 11 2011, 06:47 PM

Really? That's the best reply you can come up with?
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lol i can't believe Elop cited Android's "differentiation on that platform would have been very difficult for Nokia." Fragmentation eh?

And "The Microsoft option represented to us the best opportunity to build and join and fight within a new ecosystem."

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/live-fr...dest&refresh=60

WP7 looks stagnant to me. At least there's nothing interesting in it to me.

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He's a f***ing mole planted there by microsoft. What a prick, WP7 is not going to take them anywhere
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post Feb 11 2011, 08:55 PM

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If you read properly, MeeGo and Symbian is dead.
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Added on February 11, 2011, 8:57 pm
QUOTE(nabelon @ Feb 11 2011, 08:14 PM)
He's a f***ing mole planted there by microsoft. What a prick, WP7 is not going to take them anywhere
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I'm not sure why WP7 not going to take them anywhere. Nokia need a OS that is better than iOS and Android.

WP7 is an OS which is better than Android and iOS.

Have you use a WP7 before?

Let me show you the UI:



Added on February 11, 2011, 8:58 pm
QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 11 2011, 04:35 PM)
Wrong move.. Should have choose Android.

Well what to do, the current new boss was ex-microsoft...so he choose to alliance wth his own ex-boss.
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Android is wrong move actually. Android cannot provide differentiation product and make Nokia
look like another hardware maker. Also, Android is having legal issue now.

Furthermore, WP7 is better OS than iOS and of course much much better OS than Android.

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post Feb 11 2011, 09:07 PM

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Wouldn't making a WP7 make Nokia even more of an 'another hardware maker'? WP7 offers no variation in terms of specs with its strict tech requirements. Look at all the WP7 phones out there. I can't tell the difference, other than one with AMOLED, one with physical keyboard. That's about it.

So in choosing WP7, it's more of choosing brand than choosing specs. You like a HTC WP7? Get the HD7! (Yeah I know mozart and the other one. Frankly I don't see the significant difference). Want a Samsung? Get the Omnia 7! Want an LG? Get the Optimus 7! What's the main difference between all these WP7 phones? You get the point.

There's no 'in between' in WP7. There is one WP7. It's sorta like making iPhones, but by many manufacturers. Same experience, everytime, in every one.
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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:07 PM)
Wouldn't making a WP7 make Nokia even more of an 'another hardware maker'? WP7 offers no variation in terms of specs with its strict tech requirements. Look at all the WP7 phones out there. I can't tell the difference, other than one with AMOLED, one with physical keyboard. That's about it.

So in choosing WP7, it's more of choosing brand than choosing specs. You like a HTC WP7? Get the HD7! (Yeah I know mozart and the other one. Frankly I don't see the significant difference). Want a Samsung? Get the Omnia 7! Want an LG? Get the Optimus 7! What's the main difference between all these WP7 phones? You get the point.

There's no 'in between' in WP7. There is one WP7. It's sorta like making iPhones, but by many manufacturers. Same experience, everytime, in every one.
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Not really. Microsoft let Nokia tinker with WP7 even further. So Nokia can differentiate itself
from others.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-w...indows-phone-7/
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That's a major shift for Microsoft, who forbade HTC from skinning Windows Phone 7 with Sense, something the Taiwanese company would surely have loved to do, and limited it to the introduction of a self-contained Hub. Now Nokia's saying it -- perhaps exclusively -- has been given the liberty to play around inside WP7 to its heart's content


So WP7 is the best choice. If Nokia goes for Android, then really facepalm. Since there's no Androidfag or Symbianfag here, i'm sure everyone will agree with me that WP7 is the best way forward. smile.gif

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post Feb 11 2011, 09:25 PM

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If Microsoft really did allowed that (coz Elop backtracked saying they won't tinker too much, probably coz he probably said it without consulting Balmer first), HTC and other manufacturers will be looking for similar privileges too, or else WP7 on these brands will be a one-off, and WP7 will be left to one brand. And depends on how it develops, will either be a Nokia-Symbian kind of domination in the 2005 era, or WP7 will fizzle out and make MS decide to close down it's mobile OS division.
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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:25 PM)
If Microsoft really did allowed that (coz Elop backtracked saying they won't tinker too much, probably coz he probably said it without consulting Balmer first), HTC and other manufacturers will be looking for similar privileges too, or else WP7 on these brands will be a one-off, and WP7 will be left to one brand. And depends on how it develops, will either be a Nokia-Symbian kind of domination in the 2005 era, or WP7 will fizzle out and make MS decide to close down it's mobile OS division.
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Nope. Microsoft won't let WP7 die so fast. Xbox example lose a lot of money but Microsoft still went ahead and do Xbox 360 which is a success. Now Xbox revenue more than Windows revenue. You forgot that Microsoft and Nokia is huge company with large amount of capitalization and expertise.

Elop did not backtracked. He said he will not change that much. But he definitely confirm Nokia can change anything. Unless you're
Androidfag, you won't pour cold water on this right? brows.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 09:39 PM

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HTC once said they're allowed to customise WP7 too. Rumors were flying about how they're going to implement Sense on WP7. In the end all they had was a HTC Hub. Yay?

MS won't let WP7 die, but WP7 will die on it's own if this trend of not-interesting-ness of WP7 continues.

Wouldn't talk about XBOX coz I'm a non-gamer. But AFAIK XBOX was a success, but only because of Halo.

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:39 PM)
HTC once said they're allowed to customise WP7 too. In the end all they had was a HTC Hub. Yay?

MS won't let WP7 die, but WP7 will die on it's own if this trend of not-interesting-ness of WP7 continues.

Wouldn't talk about XBOX coz I'm a non-gamer. But AFAIK XBOX was a success, but only because of Halo.
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not really bro. XBox success because the multiplayer experience is great.

Not interestingness because got WP7 get bad treatment from manufacturer of phone such as HTC.
HTC allowed to customise but cannot use their sense UI. HTC Hub was added as differentiation product.
Not sure what's the "yay" for though.


Added on February 11, 2011, 9:42 pmand also, with Nokia on board, the interest will be very very high since Nokia will build the best mobile phone for Windows and concentrate doing that only for WP7.



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I'm ex-WM user-lor..And I hate that platform long time ago..WP7 although i hv not used it b4 but from the Youtube clip, the iu dun looks good and I stil prefer S^3 in N8.

Furthermore, I heard WP7 having connectivity problem similar to Ios i.e you can't BT file trf, can't connect via USB & copy & paste proble. On current S^#, trf of files via BT are superb & even you can opy & paste whatever files via USB and even a thumbdrive. I dun think any other platforms having these right now...Well..hopefully Nokia on WP7 in future
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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 11 2011, 09:42 PM)
I'm ex-WM user-lor..And I hate that platform long time ago..WP7 although i hv not used it b4 but from the Youtube clip, the iu dun looks good and I stil prefer S^3 in N8.

Furthermore, I heard WP7 having connectivity problem similar to Ios i.e you can't BT file trf, can't connect via USB & copy & paste proble. On current S^#, trf of files via BT are superb & even you can opy & paste whatever files via USB  and even a thumbdrive. I dun think any other platforms having these right now...Well..hopefully Nokia on WP7 in future
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i have multiple phones and one of it still using Winmo 6.1. I really hate it.

We all hope the best for Nokia la... thumbup.gif
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Nokia is definitely going downhill.

It makes sense that their next route would be MS WP7 which centers around the Indian software community and Nokia users are mostly Indians.

If you look at Windows Phone Ads the front screen shows an Indian photo album!

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While Android development community is more Chinese oriented. Google Android Lab is based in Taipei.
Google establishes Android team in Taiwan
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10194652-94.html



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