Link was "old news"

Later after that, Nokia has indicated on how will the support be, which is almost no support, especially for Symbian.

I bet, you supported oracle...but that has nothing to do with Linux....-.-

This post has been edited by randytsx: Feb 12 2011, 10:11 PM

Maybe the recent event will make Symbian programmers step up their game (to save their neck) and actually give us more updates.

For the OS?

no la. I no support anyone. Some more, Androidfag are starting to rewriting that part of code already

gogo2, my advice go learn about the thing you want to bash about first. Experience it first hand IMO.

But still due to the lack of WP7 adoption. it's probably a NoWin (pun intended) for Nokia and Microsoft.

Nokia + WP7 is a good combination. It is a good move. Whether it will succeed or not is another story. I am unable to predict the future.

But I have a simple logic on why Nokia + WP7 is better compared to Nokia + Android.

Scenario : Burger stall (Android) and Pizza outlet (WP7) in town A

There are about 50 burger stalls in town A and no Pizza outlet at all. And if I am Nokia, does it make sense for me to open the 51st burger stall? Well, my burger will taste good because I have my secret recipe (good camera etc). It will definitely sell well but I still share my profit pie with other burger stall.

Although my burger is the best, if I don't open my stall tomorrow, I lose business. My profit pie will be snatched by others. (this refers to regular updates etc)

If I open a Pizza outlet, I will be the 1st person. Well, my pizza will not outsell burgers as burgers are more popular. But hey, I am the only one selling pizza, and there are enough people who likes it (although not as much as burger lovers). I don't need to share my profit pie. I still make money. I will come up with new recipe and will try my level best to promote my pizza so that more people leave burger for pizza.

Tomorrow if I decide to close shop for a day, I don't need to worry of losing my business (this refers to irregular updates etc)

I know that if my pizza business is good, there will be more people who opens pizza outlet. Before that happens, I can either patent it (get exclusivity) and franchise it or; I can let new players to come in because my pizza business is already established. When pizza is mentioned, everyone will remember my outlet.

Now, to those who feels, "why not both burger and pizza at the same time?" I don't have enough resources. I rather concentrate on one thing and do it well rather than stepping in everywhere and be average everywhere.

Learn what? I think you and another guy got problem with Nokia and Microsoft. Lack of WP7 is because
lackaidasical attitude of other manufacturer towards WP7.

Probably you should learn more about iOS and Android before debating with me. Adui.. you guys are weird.
Already lose argument but keep on asking people to learn.

Which part of my comment you dun understand pls ask la. Dun make yourself look like fool.

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Added on February 13, 2011, 9:28 amAdoption level of user now does not mean that it will be the same when Nokia come out with WP7. The reason WP7 is low because
current handphone manufacture do their best for Android. Nothing much being done for WP7. That's why when Nokia come out with
WP7 device, it'll be so awesome that WP7 uptake will be like iOS.

Severity of failed venture means failed venture la. You already put past tense in it.

Yeah, I know you guys butthurt. But that does not means you have the right to bash the marriage.

Brand survival? If Nokia went for pasar malam OS like Android, there won't be differentiation. It'll become another Android
phone. Nokia brand will not be associated with Android and thus the brand will not survive.

Nokia know that WP7 offer the best survival

This post has been edited by gogo2: Feb 13 2011, 09:28 AM

plan A:nokia+android plan B:nokia+microsoft what about plan C or even plan D?
plan A is definitely not a smart move coz there are plenty of player in the market.plan B,yeah,nokia probably will dominant the pizza(WP7) market but look at 10 devices launched at past few months ago,total 2million sales.its even lower than a single phone powered by symbian 3,N8.
y not plan C?since symbian is very mature OS,why not continue their investment by modifying it to be more user friendly,fix some bugs and it just need a little bit improvement.symbian major problem is UI.their UI is very not user friendly compared to android,iOS and WP7.second problem,default browser,nokia/symbian have noticed the problem of browser and they promise will launch an update on the future for new browser.
look at symbian pros and cons compared to the other OS.(i point out the major factor only)
Pros
1.bluetooth is easiest to use
2.Ovi Maps and Garmin support which is the best gps software
3.plug and play,connect to pc,laptop,other electronic device is easy,fast and no need any software to sync(i feel annoying when i use sgs,iphone)

Cons
1.lousy UI which is not suitable for finger use.very not user friendly
2.internet browser is problematic,old,not user friendly as well.browser crash always happen
3.a lot of bugs waiting to fix..

so now they are adopting WP7 and abandoning symbian 3?such a giant like Nokia never keep their word?updates?besides that,i don't understand y they burning so much money in investing symbian,meego,qt in the past and now they just abandoned it by switching to another platform.it doesn't make sense.

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Feb 13 2011, 09:45 AM

The symbian pro will be adopted in WP7. I guess you never read much eh?

They realise they are wrong to burn money. Now they are going to Microsoft and no need to pay for WP7 and they
get engineering support for free.

WP7 and Nokia will be a great phone. It's gonna be a great combination since Iphone.

Perhaps Nokia can create phones that can triple boot - Symbian,Android and WP7.

I know this is impossible , however I think sales going to be good if able to do so.

i'm saving my money to buy an N8, but i like to wait for the update 1st. When PR 1.1 released i'm quite happy but not that satisfied (i'm expecting a potrait qwerty keyboard) and have start slowly preparing my old phone (omnia i900) for the trade in - wishing that the MWC have some announcement on PR 2.0.

Now this reunion issue coming in, and I'm back to square one. Even my 2nd OS choice WP7 is in doubt as the the adoption of many symbian components (ovi maps etc) will require another major update. Even WP7 itself (without this reunion) already has an update late (copy and paste, exchange issues).

Now I'm seriously looking at android which is not something that I in favour of in the 1st place.

For me a smart phone is very much a tool for me to work on and i want it to be solid and I don't have to think about changing them for at least another 2-3 yrs time.

if anyone can suggest then i be happy to investigate.

iPhone actually no need to multiboot also can sell.

Not everyone is techy like us....

+1 Your write-up damn kheng

@ViRaViRa, you forgot to factor in one condition: you're in desperate need to regain market dominance, and your store has shareholders. You have invested too much in sushi (analog for symbian). While you're still formulating the 'perfect' pizza, your investors are not earning any money (you tell them you will stop selling sushi, and WILL BE SELLING pizza, means you in R&D now, not earning any money).

You tell them your pizza will work, but other stores that sell both burger and pizza give feedback that pizzas are not selling well. Shareholders lari. Left you and the pizza distributor. Pizza distributor might be distributing other products too, so they can survive. But you can't, coz your stall is ALL IN in the pizza business.

It is not really a good analogy!

Anyway hope NoWin dun end up like Shakey Pizza! Anyway I hardly eat pizza!

+5.

+100.

Nokia is taking a huge gamble about this step. New things surely being hammered by critics until they prove that they can bear good fruits, then it will silenced by the success.

I really hope that Microsoft can modify the WP7 radically.

in fact,u never read much.they promise update for all symbian 3 devices including N8,C7,C6-01,E7...now are they keep their words?where is the update?there is no R&D budget for symbian this year,is it possible the update still coming?they keep promise this and that but their promise never come true u know?they promise developer C++,qt platform will be Nokia major ecosystem and it will last for long but now they are switching to Wp7 which is not supporting qt,C++..Rovio Mobile also get angry of Nokia move to WP7 and tons of developer angry as well.

Android i know it personally, iOS, i my dad got 3GS and sis got iPod Touch 4G. So I kinda know how those OS's roll.


I quote myself on this:

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Added on February 13, 2011, 12:20 pmHopefully, or else they are goners.

This post has been edited by 41LY45: Feb 13 2011, 12:25 PM

Even Americans hate using WinMo phones.
They never gain enough market share over there due to the high call drops and buggy interface.
You don't want to have anything to do with M$soft.

Why bother?

For those hoping to have dual boot, yeah those WP7 phones are good enough to support dual boot and maybe there'll be 3rd party support for it once they're out.