Guys, any idea how much is the 2nd hand price for this phone now ?

I doubt they would do that... theres no Benefit in doing that also..

If you study marketing ... the PLC for Electronic products would reach its peak very fast....

After the initial batch is release.... whats the point for them to even fixing it??? and in SGS case its most probably the hardware design .....

Why would they want to Re design an Old project that already reaches its PEAK in sales ..... they are just incuring more cost in having the engineer redesign it ... and furthermore the cost of testing the new design would be expensive...

And as you know samsung releases new model sooner than most other phone manufacturer ...... The Nexus S is an example....

Fixing a hardware problem isnt changing a software ... it requires physical temperament of the hardware itself ... and any changest doesnt come cheap..

There is also no evidence that they actualy redesign the hardware what so ever.... so far it is just forumers "CLAIMING" that newer is better ...

Fact is no one knows whether they have changed the design or not. I'm just making a wild guess because one of our forumer's friend newly bought sgs get a sat-fix less than 25sec. Do u have a better opinion on how his sgs can get such a fast fix?? Maybe there is no definitive answer on this gps fix..

However, if anyone of you have difficulties in getting satellite fix, i suggest u to go and try all the gps fix that's available. It won't do harm than your current gps rite?

No hard feeling k!!

well... My SGS got a fix in less than 30sec in my room

Outdoor i got a fix in less than 20sec....


Mine is because i on it with data..... and im one of the 1st batch ppl


Last time on STOCK 2.2 firmware without data... i can also get fix less than 30sec..... but at some places for some reason "if you search the old thread ... ive talk about my lock with stock firmware"



Answers Varies alot .... but i can assure you that redesigning the phone hardware is Plain impossible .... if they change the GPS chip alone ... customer could just request for that particular fix ... which doesnt make sense either...


Like i said b4 ... it is pretty much the same case like the papago thing mentioned earlier ..... Some people might felt positive about it .... some are not satisfy with it...

This post has been edited by holypredator: Feb 19 2011, 06:39 PM

Dear sifus, flash to speedmod kernel nid to backup all my stuff (e.g. Apps, sms) ?
I heard tat most of the backup app need to be rooted. Im planning to root my phone from speedmod there after i hav flashed it.

Well his friend get lock less than 25sec without data (no-agps) mind you.. In fact no sim card was present in that phone and it get lock in a room! How do u define that? Since 'hardware fix' by samsung simply not possible for latest batch (based on your thought), i guess his phone is the luckiest out of millions of sgs!

Btw, on the papago display showing 15m, that is not the accuracy my dear. If you zoom out, the number would increase! from 15m>17m>20m>25m>30m>40m>60m>80m. This number indicates how far the distance you are viewing from the actual map. If you are using gps test, then the accuracy (meters/feet) itself is the actual accuracy. Don't try to confuse yourself with it. Our sgs can get accuracy of up to 5m only. Cannot get below than that. On normaly condition, i do get accuracy ranging from 5m to 30m (but mostly its on 10m) Depends on the weather too.

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Added on February 19, 2011, 6:56 pmNope. Flashing kernals won't delete all your stuff. If you install new rom only there's a possibility it might have been deleted.


This post has been edited by coD33: Feb 19 2011, 06:56 PM

Thx alot.

Adding locale (language) to the rom you want

i just download the ZSJPE modem.. the .zip recovery and the .tar odin one.. but i see there's a big dif with this two file.. where the .zip file size is only 4.02mb and the .tar is 12mb..

is there any different between two of this? which one should i use?

The .zip recovery is meant to use with cwm. .tar odin is meant to use with odin. U can flash which one that suits u! No difference at all. Some prefer flashing with odin, while others prefer with cwm.

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Added on February 19, 2011, 7:36 pm Nice one!

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Added on February 19, 2011, 7:37 pmU're welcome!


This post has been edited by coD33: Feb 19 2011, 07:37 PM

ya.. i know that.. one for cwm.. and one for odin..
i only want to get to know more when the file size is to big different..

well.. if there's really no dif at all.. thanks

i already dload GPS Aids..
can anyone guide me what to do? what need to config?

ZZZ i know that already !!!! Im just using Papago as an example.... Since my accuracy is around 10-15...and i got good positioning when i use google maps but papago to me is not as accurate as what the other user here that say it is accurate.... and if you read through the thread... alot of users also claim that papago isnt the best chocie for GPS @ android....


So im just using that as an example that not all user might have the same thought and they think that their GPS for newer batch is better for one reason or another... or easily satisfy .... and i already knew about the zoom in and out thing .... Why the hell do you need to mention it?? i never state anything about it when i was replying to u.... and if its because its due to my old post... you should also know that theres a post acknowledging this matter....


Back to the 1st paragraph.... thats what he claims .... it might real it might be false or it might be heavily exxagerated you would never know..... cause my friend SGS set dated around end of december ... is the EXACT same performance as what i felt in my SGS .....

You might say he no sim card.... there maybe other option that he might forgot to mention like wifi?? even so.... maybe its a HOT START mistaken to be COLD START ... you might also wont know...

Or there might be possibility that hes in a right place or position for the GPS to work (just like what i mention about my Stock SGS experience)

This post has been edited by holypredator: Feb 19 2011, 08:10 PM

just download through native method. if can't, then use the brute force. advisable to download frequently i guess

- flashing speedmod, no need backup apps+data
- can root after flashing

before all that, you need to see if you have 3-button combo working for download mode (switch off, then hold down volume+home+power button) and recovery mode (switch off, then hold up volume+home+power button)

I assume you want to flash by odin method?

ic... Well, last time i tested with recovery mode (jz play play only), jz simple switch off my phone n hold volume up+home+power and it works.
So i assume tat download mode might work as well.

Yup, im following the guide here by odin method.

1 question, "Copy the speedmod-kernel-x-y.tar file into the same directory as Odin."
Is it mean if my Odin (Odin3 v1.52.exe) is in Desktop, speedmod-kernel-x-y.tar also must in Desktop as well ?

no one mention it is the BEST i just want to experiment with it, cause I me and my myself felt that it is better than other modem,
if you dont want to do it, then dont, i just shouting that i need help from other user to check does they feel the same, or is it just me.

i read your post, and thought want to give it a go, so i download the aids first, then if still suck i jump on the epic fix.

This post has been edited by silentser: Feb 19 2011, 08:42 PM

According to the instruction, yes that's right. Although I've flashed by odin with the files on a different directory than odin.

oo... ok, jz wan to make sure of tat.
Going to flash it later, hoping tat it will make a huge improvement.

guys.. I just bought a new SGS.. and i found tat i cant access my android market.. network error keep coming out and ask me to retry.. den i go market.android.com !!! still cant.. most of the app i cant install cause of phone not compatible.. why ? i nid hlp !!!