haha was busy upgrading my camera eq ... no time for sgs ...

outdated liao ... need to catch up abit ......

forget how to flash liao .. charm ...

Thx for ur prompt reply dude
Hmm..so it's not worth it if just using the stock firmware huh? happen to all operation or just proly on Entertainment/Media? Yeah much concerned on the battery though. For the iPod itself, already annoyed with the battery when Browsing and Gaming. Quite fast for me la haha The reason why i hold my intention to grab an iPhone. Scared same thing happen for this SGS

@angel-bird girl ...

@Fornaxlife , Happy Valentines !!!

Har.... u forgot how to flash liao??? aiyo... then u gonna have a big problem.... cos we are on gingerbread now....

haha .. sure bo i got visit xda site one lor .. i tell u

Stock 2.2.1 firmware is actually pretty fine, but I prefer the look and performance of custom ROMs, namely speedmod kernel and Darky rom. I think the SGS will not suck lots of batt juice if you don't do online tasks and only play games and videos on it, but cannot say for certain because I don't use my phone like that.

Maybe you need an iPad

Hi guys, wanna ask abt GPS in SGS Froyo.

Do I need a Data Plan to use GPS? Because I don't have one but would like to use the GPS feature on the phone.

hey anyone running cm7?? it doesnt have market and when i install my own it doesnt seem to open

gong hei fatt choy everyone!!

n happy valentine!!!


so now wats the latest and best rom huh?

This post has been edited by angel-girl: Feb 14 2011, 03:18 PM

I meant galaxy tab 10.1, not the original tab. I prefer functionality, which is why I like android platform.

selling price = not announced
launching date = heard rumors that they will be available this month in europe and asia!

Android and iOS have different priorities.
Software:
Android = have more features and by giving users flexibility
iOS = Give excellent user experience at the expense of closed ecosystem

Hardware:
Google: None, relegated to phone manufacturer.
Apple: Make excellent industrial design (with the exception of the antennagate)

Take an example of galaxy S. They could have gone to using YAFFS for file system like the rest of other smartphones. But they chose their own buggy RFS(retarded file system). Fortunately, the Nexus S uses ext4. Maybe google engineers wanted that better file system to be used in their phone. Hopefully galaxy S II will use ext4 as well.

The above example shows why seprating software and hardware can be a bad thing. Samsung knows next to nothing when it comes to software (slow touchwiz, RFS). Their expertise lies on the hardware (super amoled screen, thin build)

Apple OTOH, with a closed ecosystem designs both software and hardware, which makes their phone to be integrated well.

IMO, the success of iphone lies to sleek marketing (brilliant TV ads), their app store and industrial design. Most people buys iphone because they trust the brand. The average joe and jane doesn't know a thing about the specs.

For slightly more technical people actually does their research before making informed decision and see which phone suits their needs.

OIC, now I know the limitation of a jailbroken iphone. I think I know how apple thinks. "If you give users the freedom, they will bonk the system".

I'd like to comment about bugs. While it is true that there is no single OS is bug free. It depends on how they react when a bug is found.

For example, when a bug is found in microsoft windows, bug response time is slow because fixing bug is only microsoft's job. To add insult to the injury, they accumulate all security update to the first Tuesday every month!

Linux on the OTOH, is an open source software where the code is open and developers from all over the world can see, When a bug is found, a patch can be uploaded by anyone immediately. Look how fast the development of firefox (another open source software). Android also has a bug tracker where software developers can discuss to add new features and fix bugs. This reduces the time from a bug found to the time it is fixed. This is why Linux is way more secure than windows. Not because it is bug free, but the way they handle the situation. You can't prevent a earthquake, it's how you organize yourself for the resque mission.

So, don't fret about the bugs in android. It's linux after all

I look forward to this healthy dialog (or is it offtopic? )

1. The earlier version lags very badly. The updated firmware (the froyo 2.2.1) eliminates almost all the lag.
2. Battery is bigger than iphone4. Moderate use can last all day long.
3. yes, custom firmware unleashes the power of android of the phone. Samsung does not do a good job oon software front.
4. updates are through samsung's software, Kies, for updates.
5.
- For gaming, iOS is still better. It'd take a few months before we see more quality games for android.
- For media, galaxy s is superb, can play any media.
- Browser: android's browser is a bit faster, has flash 10.1. iOS doesn't have.
- While iOS by itself is very simple, on android, there are a lot of customization that can be made, at the expense of less polished out system. (geeks don't make good UI)
- buying high-end smartphone is a very expensive investment. I would suggest having both devices on yor hand and make informed decision.


iphone = for people not wanting to think much and enjoy for using the phone, and it just works.
andoid = for people who likes to play around with customizations and enjoy for using the phone

lol go try cm7 not bad
at least for me

I thought cm7 for sgs still has loads of bugs or features not working? Like no 720p video recording and no HQ youtube playback? Am itchy to try CM7 but I need something I can use as a daily driver, not a bleeding edge ROM with issues..

U've got much point there. Appreciate it..Thx
Yeah iOS is just like perfect to those who love pre-baked cake for me. This is why i still trapped with the Symbian (N8 User). Friendly UI and much more customization. And now Android looks to be common in the next future smartphone. The things that attracted me was customization and swift response for the updates, fix and patches. Right now playing in my head, selling both my N8 (my main phone as Camera, GPS, Video, & Music) & iPod Touch (as my Portable Browser and Gaming device) for Powderfull Android haha

yea for me camera not working youtube having problems but quite smooth

i am only testing the rom and i love how the screen off like those old fashion tv so dam cool

I did a lot of research before buying a phone (Which I normally do). But the review is bias, I think. Because they never mentioned about laggy issue. And I was the pioneer of getting the phone when it was first available from Maxis. Well, I don't follow trend blindly. I buy the phone that I like. I still think that it's android system flaw for the lag issue, but I can't confirm.

Well, I don't agree with jujx. I don't know how his friend jailbroke his iphone. But for my friend's iphone. I have experienced it with my own hands and my very own eyes. It surprised me a lot. The phone was loaded with tons of Games and Apps. But still silky smooth, especially running the apps. Huh.... what can I say? For your info, iphone 4 without JB is inferior to SGS due to paid apps. After JB, you can get alots of quality apps FOC. This is the fact you can't deny.

Well, I'm still holding on my SGS, hoping for a brighter future of Android. If you found bugs and flaws in the system, you need to rectify it. Not to keep pushing new Android System which is still suckie. Do it like Microsoft's way (Only for the part which they release patches to correct the flaws, not other aspect)

I have the same thinking as you, CrossX. I would really wait and consider Ipad2 instead of going for Samsung Tab 10.1. Sometimes, advertisement promised more than reality. That's the purpose of Ads, right?

Huh, CrossX. I thought you taught me how to extract bootanimations? And now you tell me that you don't know how to Extract??? That's funny.

Btw, lag is not Android system flaw, it is Samsung fault..... That is why SGS needs lagfix.... install one and you remove this problem..

I don't mean by iphone with lots of apps & games, i mean iphone with modified homescreen, with themes, widgets on screen and lock screen, and many many mod, it does lag and hangs

hi guys... need ur advice...

currently using wildfire... considering upgrading to SGS next month...
one of the main reason is due to the corning 4" glass and 1GHz proc... corning glass is a plus for me since im in the cement industry... feels that the better proc speed would be good...

currently having push mail on my wildfire... n also i play quite alot of game and web surfing....

the main question is should i upgrade now or wait for sgs2 to arrive to our shore's...

Something cool released by Google

Something like avatar for Xbox live

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.g...apps.androidify

You're like me, I bought the SGS quite early but without contract from Maxis, paid a lot of money for it. The overall lagginess caught me by surprise too since none of the reviews back then mentioned it. However, within a week or two, I was happy to see active development in xda-developers forum - starting with the early lagfixes by mimocan and ryanza. Once supercurio came on board with voodoo, things started looking up and now we even have custom ROMs and kernels

That's piracy, no? Probably not a good measure of quality because in theory your buddy would have been spending loads of money just to get to the stage of having so many nice apps on his iPhone4 - a much higher total cost of ownership than an Android phone which has more free or ad-supported apps available for download without needing to 'steal', so to speak. Anyway, I think the Android warez scene is also catching up but so far I have not installed any cracked paid apps on my SGS - keeping it clean and only using either free apps or paying for those apps I really need or want. IMHO, no use having 3000 apps of which only 20 are actively used.

In any case, the iOS UI is pretty good, definitely slicker than the current Android UI. Since Apple designed the hardware and software, it's nice to see smooth UI transitions due to GPU-accelerated graphics, something that is lacking on Android. I believe Gingerbread now has GPU-driven UI components, with Honeycomb totally accelerated by GPU. Thanks to Apple's innovations, we're starting to see improvements being pushed out in Android. Also, multitasking in iOS is unlike the true multitasking in Android which probably explains the better typical user experience on the former.

Still I cannot live without the versatility of Android, especially on the SGS:

1. Ability to practically play any video and audio format thrown at it.
2. Ability to mount internal and external storage like thumb drives on the PC, instead of needing an app like iTunes to transfer files.
3. Ability to play embedded Adobe Flash content in the web browser.
4. Superb notification system of Android, very informative but not intrusive.
5. Custom ROMs and custom kernels - can't do these funky things on my iPad.
6. 4 inch Super AMOLED display - size does matter to my aging eyes. 3.5 inch Retina just doesn't do it for me.
7. Ability to swap out batteries especially since there are no piggyback power packs for the SGS available locally compared to iPhone4.
8. Powerful adb cmd line interface for techie freak like me plus ftpserver on my phone for easy access to phone storage.
9. Easy to understand folder structure in Android. Trust me, if you sftp to a jailbroken iOS device, the folder structure is very hard to decipher.
10. Easy to full backup and restore a rooted SGS, from the phone itself. On iOS, iTunes on PC is the only option for device backup and it's seriously really crappy to use.

---

Added on February 14, 2011, 5:08 pmYes buddy, I kena before. Tried some of the UI tweaking tools like infinifolders and modified themes on my iPad. Totally screwed up the device, had to restore iOS from scratch, jailbreak again and reinstall all my apps.. Seems that iOS 4.2.1 has issues with some of the UI tweak tools (lack of mobile substrate or something) and the sad thing is that I cannot downgrade iOS to 3.2.2.. Apple way is its way or the highway when it comes to iOS platform..

This post has been edited by kmrdeva: Feb 14 2011, 05:13 PM