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post Jan 18 2011, 10:13 PM

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currently doin some research on Cervical cancer for my presentation with Midori

Much lightweight as compare to Chromium though biggrin.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:30 PM

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has anyone already tried firefox4 on linux platform? please give some review.. huhuhu
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 18 2011, 10:30 PM)
has anyone already tried firefox4 on linux platform? please give some review.. huhuhu
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Same as in Windows ? sweat.gif
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post Jan 19 2011, 08:57 AM

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penguins and devils,

Just want to know yr opinion about one click download server such as hotfile or megaupload. I am on streamyx 1mbps speed, currently I am downloading a single file of 400MB from hotfile, a single link my constant speed is ranging from 120kB to 200kB (yes it is B and not b) and download completed in estimated time.

If I am using premium acc in hotfile, jbdownloader will divide the file into several chunks. Thing goes well with premium acc in jbdownloader but the total speed of overall chunks still as the same as 120kB to 200kB. Am I really rugi getting the premium of RM22/month but performance wise I am the same speed as free user? of course premium users enjoy auto resume or such... but speed?

opinion pls, thanks.


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post Jan 19 2011, 09:35 AM

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@powerwoot
Yes, rugi for sure.
The max dl speed you can get from a Shitnyx 1mbps connection is around 200 - 230 kb/s (give or take) ... average over the entire download (if you aren't capped/throttled) is about 150 or so.

You won't get faster download rates even with parallel/split downloading.
Test it out if you want. find a linux or bsd iso mirror that gives you a speed close to your current max with your browser's standard download tool. Then abort the download and fire up Jdownloader or Firefox's DownThemAll plugin for the same file and split it into chinks. I'm pretty sure you're not going to see much difference.

The only possible benefit is that you're given priority when/if megaupload/hotfile/fileserv servers are experiencing heavy load, in which case they should allocate more bandwidth for their premium members.

I think adding RM 22 (or a bit more) per month to your current Shitnyx bill should be enough for a 2mbps connection, no? (I'm not too sure about their current prices)

This post has been edited by G-17: Jan 19 2011, 09:38 AM
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post Jan 19 2011, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 18 2011, 10:30 PM)
has anyone already tried firefox4 on linux platform? please give some review.. huhuhu
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Tried here on my #! and 2 other Win XP + 7 PCs.Marginally better;page load, page "breaks", Flash and plugins than on Win I'd say but are you referring to beta or nightlies?Ran nightly on those Win rigs.4b9 on Linux rig.But I also found that stable ver are actually faster in most cases.

@powerwoot
Not much input from me but what I can say is judging from numerous complaints out there at bband u2u thread on the same subject(s), I don't think you're getting your money's worth with TM's flip flopping FUP circus going on tbh seriously.Might as well take that amount and just ramp up a bit for the 2mbps plan?

@cocooh
You're gonna have to post me a tut on how to "patiently" get or find Midori's deps ;p~ Pulled hair strands last 2 nights trying to /.waf make the damn thing on my end.

@all of you gurus
Squeeze's coming on 6th Feb and seems very very tempting.I never tried a straight Debian install before so here's a dilemma.Right now this #! setup points to Sid via smxi script on Liquorix 2.6.36-2.The latest Liquorix 2.6.37 gave me show stopping kernel panic so scratch that atm this setup works flawlessly.Should I do net install or Debian iso hybrid?I prefer a live USB installation.OR should I just stick with this for faster updates?
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post Jan 19 2011, 10:29 AM

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If you have space for another partition on your current system, or another computer to spare, then go for it!!

Past debian netinstall images have been problematic with USB installs, though. You'll need to download the image, then SYSLINUX, and then install a bootloader.

Seriously, even if you did a netinstall, it wouldn't differ much from your current Statler install in terms of memory footprint upon boot, unless you went really lean and omitted various daemons related to networking, freq-scaling, maybe even hal.

If you really want a spartan install of Debian to learn teh "Debian Way", you could try GRML. It's currently my favourite distro, and for some unexplainable reason, it's faster than even a Debian netinstall (seriously, I don't know why... probably some init scripts I haven't checked yet). It's not really newbie-friendly though, since it's targeted at sysadmins and scripters.

The site does have decent documentation, so make sure you read it before deciding whether it's for you or not.
http://grml.org/
http://daily.grml.org/

There's also Aptosid (formerly Sidux). Since you seem to be an Xfce lover, Aptosid-XFce might be a good choice for you. It's already based on Sid, with some additional Aptosid specific apps and scripts thrown in. The kernel gives similar performance to the Liquorix/Zen variant, with regards to latency/preemption and patches included.

http://aptosid.com/
The manual on the site is very, very good (second only to Arch and Gentoo wikis, probably), and it teaches you the 'proper' way to maintain a Sid-based system (which can be a bit of work, but nowhere as near as what some people make it out to be)

Hope this helps.
Cheerz~

P.S
With regards to Midori; If you're on Statler it should be in your repos, and apt will satisfy all dependencies for you.
There's also Hadret's unstable Debian PPA (with secure-apt GPG key) that has the latest versions of Midori as well as some other goodies pulled from git or dev channels. He's a good bloke and well-trusted among Debian users.
http://hadret.rootnode.net/
You can safely add his Unstable sources to your existing Squeeze/Testing based Statler install without breaking anything, since it'l only upgrade certain apps even if you do a dist-upgrade with the Hadret sources enabled (mainly Gimp, libcairo, murrine engine... etc). You can, of course, remove or comment out his repo from your sources.list once you get what you need if you want to play it super-safe.

Just noticed he's added a special 'UNRELEASED" PPA as well, which has the latest Xfce.
http://blog.fchabik.com/

This post has been edited by G-17: Jan 19 2011, 10:43 AM
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post Jan 19 2011, 11:11 AM

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hmm that is the same as what I am thinking, premium vs free but at the same speed, save RM22 and I'll get few glasses of teh tarik.

Thanks for replying
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post Jan 19 2011, 12:28 PM

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Hmm, again I'm gonna veer the topic off tangent.

2 things happening on my home network. The first is probably a networking issue but I'll just list it down anyways and the 2nd is issues playing 720/1080p across the network.

1st. Copying files from my file server to my HTPC caps at 3.5 MB/s. This doesn't make sense. It should be higher. I can't figure out whats wrong with it. File server runs debian and HTPC ubuntu 10.10. I'm thinking switch limitation. Its a basic RM50 switch (TP-Link) i think. You guys got any other ideas?

2nd. When I watch movies on my HTPC, the movies are actually piped from my server in another room. Using MythTV backend and frontend setups. 720 and 1080p movies are jerky (both video and sound). Even if I don't use MythTV to watch, I still get that problem.

However, when I copy the file to my HTPC hard drive, the movie plays fine. No jerky or skipping. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(eq8all @ Jan 19 2011, 09:41 AM)
Tried here on my #! and 2 other Win XP + 7 PCs.Marginally better;page load, page "breaks", Flash and plugins than on Win I'd say but are you referring to beta or nightlies?Ran nightly on those Win rigs.4b9 on Linux rig.But I also found that stable ver are actually faster in most cases.

@powerwoot
Not much input from me but what I can say is judging from numerous complaints out there at bband u2u thread on the same subject(s), I don't think you're getting your money's worth with TM's flip flopping FUP circus going on tbh seriously.Might as well take that amount and just ramp up a bit for the 2mbps plan?

@cocooh
You're gonna have to post me a tut on how to "patiently" get or find Midori's deps ;p~ Pulled hair strands last 2 nights trying to /.waf make the damn thing on my end.

@all of you gurus
Squeeze's coming on 6th Feb and seems very very tempting.I never tried a straight Debian install before so here's a dilemma.Right now this #! setup points to Sid via smxi script on Liquorix 2.6.36-2.The latest Liquorix 2.6.37 gave me show stopping kernel panic so scratch that atm this setup works flawlessly.Should I do net install or Debian iso hybrid?I prefer a live USB installation.OR should I just stick with this for faster updates?
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rclxub.gif wad u wanna know

ive juz tried bzr for wingpanel n postler laugh.gif

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post Jan 19 2011, 09:09 PM

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@G-17
Thanks a bunch for your reply smile.gif Mmmm GRML w/ Fluxbox looks yummy ;o~.Gonna need to ctrl+d some more reading materials then.smxi added some aptosid lines here I think but I didn't touch any up the updates.Gonna have to read up some more as the suggested kernel version were a bit way behind? Yeah I've added Hadret's but I'm not entirely sure how to add that unreleased PPA of his.Nice find.I'm gonna have to prep back that #! openbox .iso on a stick though before I slap that latest XFCE on.

@cocooh
Was referring to the latest ver (0.2.9?) of Midori.I failed at manual install so maybe I'm gonna try this older ver on Statler instead.

This post has been edited by eq8all: Jan 19 2011, 09:14 PM
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post Jan 19 2011, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(eq8all @ Jan 19 2011, 09:09 PM)
@G-17
Thanks a bunch for your reply smile.gif Mmmm GRML w/ Fluxbox looks yummy ;o~.Gonna need to ctrl+d some more reading materials then.smxi added some aptosid lines here I think but I didn't touch any up the updates.Gonna have to read up some more as the suggested kernel version were a bit way behind? Yeah I've added Hadret's but I'm not entirely sure how to add that unreleased PPA of his.Nice find.I'm gonna have to prep back that #! openbox .iso on a stick though before I slap that latest XFCE on.

@cocooh
Was referring to the latest ver (0.2.9?) of Midori.I failed at manual install so maybe I'm gonna try this older ver on Statler instead.
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did u install from the debs?
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post Jan 19 2011, 10:09 PM

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make ur wine apps match ur gtk theme with a python script thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easily-...your-gtk-theme/

edited: this works fine on my lmde rclxms.gif

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post Jan 19 2011, 10:31 PM

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hmm , test driving LXDE installed in my 10.10

preety lightweight O.O
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post Jan 22 2011, 07:06 PM

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aiyoo...2 days without any comment make me boring right now.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyone hv heard ariOS???its ubuntu n unity based..look great..

http://arioslinux.org/


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post Jan 22 2011, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 22 2011, 07:06 PM)
aiyoo...2 days without any comment make me boring right now.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

anyone hv heard ariOS???its ubuntu n unity based..look great..

http://arioslinux.org/
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saw tis @ webupd8

looks like theyre mimicing wingpanel shocking.gif
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jan 22 2011, 07:17 PM)
saw tis @ webupd8

looks like theyre mimicing wingpanel  shocking.gif
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yeah...i saw this at webupd8 too...

LOL...yup...looks like elementary wingpanel,but its transparent... thumbup.gif

but,still loving my super ubuntu os right now...

still cant beat other OS since all driver are preinstalled especially wifi... wub.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 22 2011, 07:25 PM)
yeah...i saw this at webupd8 too...

LOL...yup...looks like elementary wingpanel,but its transparent...  thumbup.gif

but,still loving my super ubuntu os right now...

still cant beat other OS since all driver are preinstalled especially wifi... wub.gif
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sweat.gif wingpanel's transparency can be adjusted from source

Ive set mine to 60% transparency

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jan 22 2011, 07:27 PM)
sweat.gif  wingpanel's transparency can be adjusted from source

Ive set mine to 60% transparency
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i dont like transparent my panel,font will be fuzzy..... yawn.gif
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post Jan 22 2011, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 22 2011, 07:30 PM)
i dont like transparent my panel,font will be fuzzy..... yawn.gif
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depends on hw u customize rolleyes.gif

still waiting for Unity drool.gif

running it with compiz but cant wait to try Natty's Unity sweat.gif

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