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post Dec 19 2010, 04:24 PM, updated 14y ago

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Since some members wanted this thread, I'm starting it.
If it takes off, I hope a mod/admin stickies it.
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 19 2010, 04:24 PM)
Since some members wanted this thread, I'm starting it.
If it takes off, I hope a mod/admin stickies it.
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hooyeah, our kedai kopi is here! rclxms.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:26 PM

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I wonder how can I use ScrotWM on Fedora. I've installed it and I can't change to ScrotWM. Any advice?
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:28 PM

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yippie ^^~ gosh O.O my emesene2 miraculously didnt crash

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post Dec 19 2010, 04:32 PM

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anyone hv test ubuntu studio....how so far???ok?? hmm.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:32 PM

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BTW, I think this section is getting more active than usual. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(monsh)
well im kinda embarrased to say this, im a programmer but i dont really went into linux OS so much .

it would be gerat if there's any OS with great GUI and a mediocre level of programming required .

anyway, i'll try out the Ubuntu .

can give me link pls .

any other options do i have ? ^^,


Regardless of your level of expertise, Ubuntu is a good starting point. It is beginner-friendly and a bit GUI centric, but can you do programmer-level stuff on it as well (all the tools are there, just like any other distro). It's not my distro of choice, but I still recommend it to first-timers mainly due to the large amount of documentation floating online. More often than not, you'll get linked to a Ubuntu-related answer or teh Ubuntu forums even if you search a general Linux question on Google.

Go to the Ubuntu website, get the iso (10.10 for the latest stable version, or 10.04 LTS if you want a bit more stability), and then go here for tips on how to set up some stuff:
http://ubuntuguide.org/

Alternatively, you can try Mint, which is based on Ubuntu but has more stuff included out of the box (plus it looks better)
http://linuxmint.com/

After a few months, you can move on to other distros that offer a higher level of modularity (or you can stick to Ubuntu as well, it' doesn't matter)

Suse, Fedora, Mandriva all offer similar experiences to Ubuntu.

If you want to learn more about Linux in general, or just like computing on the bleeding-edge, or want something more minimalist that includes only the packages/apps you need, you can then try out distros like Debian (Testing or Unstable), Arch, Gentoo, Slackware, Source Mage, Sorcerer...etc.

Cheers

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post Dec 19 2010, 04:34 PM

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Ubuntu Studio --- for Designers and Multimedia tools ?
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:34 PM

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I am using pidgin for my im, but at this era of facebook most members in my im is going offline. Facebook is a killer! haha nasib baik kat pidgin plugin utk facebook.
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Dec 19 2010, 04:34 PM)
I am using pidgin for my im, but at this era of facebook most members in my im is going offline. Facebook is a killer! haha nasib baik kat pidgin plugin utk facebook.
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I use empathy but rarely used it nowadays, too much online conections. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Dec 19 2010, 04:34 PM)
I am using pidgin for my im, but at this era of facebook most members in my im is going offline. Facebook is a killer! haha nasib baik kat pidgin plugin utk facebook.
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shocking.gif I rarely chat @ FB XD

But im lookin foward for the new Empathy icon_rolleyes.gif

Looks promising as it has a new GUI laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Dec 19 2010, 04:34 PM)
Ubuntu Studio --- for Designers and Multimedia tools ?
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yup...wanna try..but about 1gb download...so,i batalkan je.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 19 2010, 04:37 PM)
yup...wanna try..but about 1gb download...so,i batalkan je.... tongue.gif
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Yup , coz it contains alot of software related to editings and some nice nice icons n themes tongue.gif
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 19 2010, 04:37 PM)
yup...wanna try..but about 1gb download...so,i batalkan je.... tongue.gif
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Whaddaya' expect of a distro full of designers tools? biggrin.gif

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post Dec 19 2010, 04:43 PM

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Haizzz , still waiting for that Chrome OS
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post Dec 19 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(-Hzu- @ Dec 19 2010, 04:26 PM)
I wonder how can I use ScrotWM on Fedora. I've installed it and I can't change to ScrotWM. Any advice?
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Firstly, I must disclaim that I haven't use Fedora in a while, so whatever I type below will be "logical assumptions". The Fedora support forums are still your no.1 source for Fedora specific help, -Hzu-

With regards to starting ScrotWM, I assume you're using the standard Fedo Gnome edition that uses GDM to manage your sessions, right.

If so, you'll need to find where the desktop entries are stored in Fedora. It's probably in /usr/share/xsessions. Go there, and see if you have other entries in it (like gnome.desktop...etc) If yes, do you see a scrotwm.desktop entry?

If not, try creating one, and then, inside it paste this

CODE

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Scrotwm
Comment=This session starts ScrotWM
Exec=/usr/bin/scrotwm
Type=Application


Here, we assume that your package manager defaults to installing the ScrotWM executable to your /usr/bin folder. Check that folder first to see if there's a scrotwm file there. If not, find out where Fedora installs it to, and change to "Exec" line to point to it accordingly. Save it, then log out to GDM and see if you see a ScrotWM entry.

If it doesn't work, ask here again (or the Fedo forums alternatively)

Ugh, now I remember why I never liked GDM in the first place... so leceh tongue.gif


Added on December 19, 2010, 4:51 pmWTF!! This thread moved so fast, ah?! O_O

QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 19 2010, 04:32 PM)
anyone hv test ubuntu studio....how so far???ok?? hmm.gif
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Ubuntu Studio is basically Ubuntu + real time kernel + apps
The benefits of a realtime(RT) kernel are it's low latency, mainly for audio production apps that rely on JACK

If you don't know what JACK or LADSPA are, then there's no point in you installing Ubuntu Studio, since you can just install all the other multimedia related apps in Studio on regular Ubuntu via apt-get or Synaptic.

Truth be told, I think Ubuntu Studio doesn't even run the RT kernel anymore, due to problems with it's maintenance. RT Kernels are "sort of" losing their place with the current trend of high premption kernels like Zen or Liquorix, which is quite sad to see.

If you're really interested in studio-related, audio production distros, there are a few out there that do a better job tha Ubuntu Studio does, at the expense of user-friendliness, possibly.

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i was wondering, is it possible to create an individual startup processes for each xsession? like when i logged in into scrotwm i don't need to start NetworkManager/gnome-panel/conky/docky <----my normal startup apps for gnome.
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Dec 19 2010, 04:43 PM)
Haizzz , still waiting for that Chrome OS
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LOL, speaking of Chrome, I received an e-mail from Google a few weeks ago asking if I wanted their prototype Chrome lappy for testing (CR something something) ... I clicked on the link, and then saw the "only for US" line. sad.gif

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post Dec 19 2010, 05:00 PM

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I'll follow your guide but I'll have to re-login because I accidentally opened the GNOME file. xD
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Dec 19 2010, 04:54 PM)
LOL, speaking of Chrome, I received an e-mail from Google a few weeks ago asking if I wanted their prototype Chrome lappy for testing (CR something something) ... I clicked on the link, and then saw the "only for US" line. sad.gif
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Me too , i was like >>> shocking.gif

I think Msia nt gonna get any cry.gif

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