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crazy25kid
post Apr 4 2011, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hean @ Apr 4 2011, 01:43 PM)
We still need to declare even though the annual amount is less than the eligible amount to pay tax?

I worked for 2 months in 2011, left for Singapore but coming back intermittently. Will there be any problem in my loans, etc?
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Not sure, but I would recommend that you submit the following year.
It would be more troublesome if they come knocking on your door asking this and that.
If you paid PCB, you MUST file, so that you can get back the amount you paid. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Apr 4 2011, 03:19 PM

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becareful of a clause by LHDN, if during that year you do not work the minimum 120 days in Malaysia, you will be taxed full amount.

I'm not entirely sure about the clause because my ex wife was the one who helped me out with it.
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post Apr 4 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Apr 4 2011, 03:19 PM)
becareful of a clause by LHDN, if during that year you do not work the minimum 120 days in Malaysia, you will be taxed full amount.

I'm not entirely sure about the clause because my ex wife was the one who helped me out with it.
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Oh, thanks for the heads up.
I will be in that category.
I guess they will come backdate me next year. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Apr 4 2011, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Apr 4 2011, 11:29 AM)
It is compulsory for the company to issue it, but for me, the company submitted to LHDN.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
It is just like a procedure if you leave the country, just like withholding your last salary pay.
After that, they approve the release of your last pay.
To avoid red tape, they can give you EA form following year instead (just like you never told them you leaving the country)

CP21 kinda looks like EA form which is not all you need to file income tax.
If you have PCB, you need that sheet too as CP21 does not include those information.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  (You may have to request from your company)
Other relieves like insurance will only be sent to you next year.
Just remember to file next year during income tax season.
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Hmm.....i didn't have/need that CP21. Just have a form from the company that states my gross salary then the total EPF contribution and the total PCB(tax deduction)....

Don't worry...when the next's year income tax form comes...just file it up as 0 income.....at least i did return my income tax assessment . Which is what I've been doing for the past 2 years

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post Apr 4 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Apr 4 2011, 02:05 PM)
Not sure, but I would recommend that you submit the following year.
It would be more troublesome if they come knocking on your door asking this and that.
If you paid PCB, you MUST file, so that you can get back the amount you paid.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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u mean they will 'notice' when I suddenly never submit for the current year? will they even care to check on small fishes like us?


Added on April 4, 2011, 3:55 pm
QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Apr 4 2011, 03:19 PM)
becareful of a clause by LHDN, if during that year you do not work the minimum 120 days in Malaysia, you will be taxed full amount.

I'm not entirely sure about the clause because my ex wife was the one who helped me out with it.
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Full amount, pro-rated?
Can give more details?

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post Apr 4 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Hean @ Apr 4 2011, 03:54 PM)
u mean they will 'notice' when I suddenly never submit for the current year? will they even care to check on small fishes like us?
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Shyt happens.
Better safe than sorry.
They came knocking when my mum retired. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Apr 4 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Apr 4 2011, 04:07 PM)
Shyt happens.
Better safe than sorry.
They came knocking when my mum retired.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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income tax will check inside out before KWSP will release your 'retirement' sum
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post Apr 4 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 3 2011, 03:37 PM)
Interesting, looks somewhat accurate. Useful for all those newbies who keep asking whether they can 'survive' in SG.

Cost of Living - SG vs KL at <a href='http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compa...y2=Kuala+Lumpur' target='_blank'>http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compa...y2=Kuala+Lumpur</a>
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Have to read this with a pinch of salt.

1) Item under the same cat. are of different level. Eg. sub 1000cc car vs 1.6L Jap car; Bus/train that's on time vs miniBus.
A RM1 nasi lemak in luar bandar is just rice and sambal, maybe one slice of timun. A nasi lemak in SG have more stuff.
So people are buying better quality stuff at higher cost. The index only shown the average you need to live a "common" life based on the country standard. One shall not use it to compare between country.


2) It shows SG have higher disposable income. I guess that's the reason we are here.

They don't have an index for people like us where we live across the 2 country. We may have Malaysia house + Food + SG internet, phone etc

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post Apr 4 2011, 06:22 PM

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post Apr 4 2011, 06:42 PM

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Hey guys, I'm having troubles in deciding what do on this matter. Any suggestions or advices are kindly appreciated.

I'm currently working in MAS at a FMCG company doing IT, and has been with the company for nearly 2 years ++. Yesterday, a fren offer me a position for receiving/purchasing job in the Far East company(SG) but the job is not IT related. It's a whole new ball game already.

Please advise on what to consider, shud I go for it or shud I stay/remain at the current job?

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post Apr 4 2011, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Apr 4 2011, 06:42 PM)
Hey guys, I'm having troubles in deciding what do on this matter. Any suggestions or advices are kindly appreciated.

I'm currently working in MAS at a FMCG company doing IT, and has been with the company for nearly 2 years ++.  Yesterday, a fren offer me a position for receiving/purchasing job in the Far East company(SG) but the job is not IT related. It's a whole new ball game already.

Please advise on what to consider, shud I go for it or shud I stay/remain at the current job?

Based on the information you provided, I will go.

Reasons:

1. I don't like IT.
2. Far East sounds better than a FMCG company.
3. S$ stronger than RM.
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QUOTE(DarksideRG @ Apr 3 2011, 10:51 PM)
no. but some personal problem

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let me guess. sick of JAIS restriction?


Added on April 4, 2011, 9:04 pm
QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 4 2011, 12:35 AM)
very true....

neway, i am sure most of you all gotten your increments and bonus for last year already/ care to share? this is not to brag or showoff but just as a comparison...? i will start with mine...
1. alaskanbunny
a. years working: 1 1/2 years
b. industry: trading/manufacturing
c. increment: 10% <<<--- reasonable? i expected 35%, supervisor advice to demand for 20%
d. bonus: 5 months
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My view is that 10% is pretty reasonable. Normally 35% only comes during promotion / salary revision (diff from increment) / counter offer/ job hop.

5 months bonues quite reasonbale oso.


Added on April 4, 2011, 9:10 pm
QUOTE(Laine @ Apr 4 2011, 10:32 AM)
hi, me and my wife is leaving to SG this Friday. My current company HR has prepared a borang CP 21 and ask me to submit to LHDN to clear 2011 tax. however, my wife's employer did not prepare this for her. Is this a compulsory thing before we leave the country?

Thanks.
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by rite she should. but i didn't clear mine as well. it's been 6 months... touch wood....
but i will still submit my annual tax return lar.

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post Apr 4 2011, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 4 2011, 05:35 AM)
My personal recommendation is the casinos (IRs or Integrated Resorts). They employ lots of foreigners and are not too picky on their skill sets as they are willing to train. I think they provide hostel as well. Go online to Marina Bay Sands and Genting Sentosa websites. IIRC, you can submit applications and get info there. Lots of non-haram jobs in the IRs if you're worried about that.
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Bro, still have other jobs. Casino or bar jobs should be the last choise for him.

Quick Jobs? Security Guard.
check the STAR paper. From there you take a course in SG to upgrade then move on.

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post Apr 4 2011, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Apr 4 2011, 06:42 PM)
Hey guys, I'm having troubles in deciding what do on this matter. Any suggestions or advices are kindly appreciated.

I'm currently working in MAS at a FMCG company doing IT, and has been with the company for nearly 2 years ++.  Yesterday, a fren offer me a position for receiving/purchasing job in the Far East company(SG) but the job is not IT related. It's a whole new ball game already.

Please advise on what to consider, shud I go for it or shud I stay/remain at the current job?
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Far East sounds like one of the main property developer in SG, or it is not?

http://www.fareast.com.sg

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Apr 4 2011, 09:54 PM)
Bro, still have other jobs. Casino or bar jobs should be the last choise for him.

The IRs contain a lot more than just the casinos and bars, no? The hotels are huge, serious concentration of restaurants, the shopping malls are fully occupied, other entertainment outlets like the concert/stage, theme park, museum, pedestrian parks, observation deck... from busboy to waiter to concierge to housekeeping to doorman to security - the possibilities are endless.

The reason why I recommended the IRs... simple and straightforward. They are always hiring, recruit directly, train, provide hostel and do not have the same foreigner hiring restrictions are the normal Sg company.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 4 2011, 05:35 AM)
Which EP? Q1, P2 or P1?

If P1 with those percentages and months, then you need to buy lunch for everyone.
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Q1 lor... hahahah, years experience only 1 1/2... and i am not that outstanding

care 2 share urs?
QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Apr 4 2011, 07:18 AM)
damn, mine is like...  cry.gif

it's about time to move on
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care to share? cont from the list ler... at least can give the rest an idea
QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Apr 4 2011, 07:37 AM)
oh ya, i think he can apply for those auxilary police in Singapore. quite well paid as well. And there are a lot non-chinese in those sector. But he need to be physically fit to be able to get that job. i got that contact from jbtalk forum. they got share how much they earn, the test and everything there. There is an Agent on that forum, but not sure if they only employ chinese since jbtalk is a chinese forum sad.gif
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errrr, no passport wor...
QUOTE(cheeyt @ Apr 4 2011, 01:57 PM)
To Nicky87

I think u and all other accounting graduates have the same mindset, that is to join audit firm as it will help u to get ur membership after 3 yrs of exeprience.
we all have been brain wash by our lecturers.I think u need to know why u wan that membership and also what u wan.
u dun get promotion or increment after u get ur membership .so, as long as u know what u wan , why let this membership thingy restrict u??
by the way, I have friends who get their membership without joining audit firm.
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agree, msians like audit firm and sg audit firms like msians... a lot of msians working there except pwc...
QUOTE(Liuism @ Apr 4 2011, 06:42 PM)
Hey guys, I'm having troubles in deciding what do on this matter. Any suggestions or advices are kindly appreciated.

I'm currently working in MAS at a FMCG company doing IT, and has been with the company for nearly 2 years ++.  Yesterday, a fren offer me a position for receiving/purchasing job in the Far East company(SG) but the job is not IT related. It's a whole new ball game already.

Please advise on what to consider, shud I go for it or shud I stay/remain at the current job?
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monetary authority of sg? wats MAS? ohhh... msia

errr... a lot of indons there, females doing sales... not too bad that company... depends on ur liking
QUOTE(Aloong @ Apr 4 2011, 09:00 PM)
let me guess. sick of JAIS restriction?


Added on April 4, 2011, 9:04 pm

My view is that 10% is pretty reasonable. Normally 35% only comes during promotion / salary revision (diff from increment) / counter offer/ job hop.

5 months bonues quite reasonbale oso.
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is it? but i extrapolate 10% every year i will fail to meet my target sad.gif i guess i should stay back another year to look see right?

care 2 share urs?
QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Apr 4 2011, 09:57 PM)
Far East sounds like one of the main property developer in SG, or it is not?

http://www.fareast.com.sg
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yeaps, that right... big org selling a lot to foreigners
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 4 2011, 10:30 PM)
care 2 share urs?

5% and 2 months.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 4 2011, 11:45 PM)
5% and 2 months.
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years experience and industry?
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 4 2011, 11:51 PM)
years experience and industry?

>10, petrochemical MNC.

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post Apr 5 2011, 12:50 AM

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TO seantang, (sorry don't know how to use the quoting feature)



hi senior, could you shed some light on what can an accounting grad do in a commercial environment?

i m currently under industrial training in the audit field. From my observation, the account departments performing the compliance role are all dead boring to me. Perhaps I'm just seeing a small boring part of their overall roles which may not paint the whole picture, since we only go in during their closing.

Audit feels ok, but nothing more than that. I agree with your point of view that no point spending 3 years in audit just to get an suboptimal experience or a membership, so I'm not really having the must breaking into auditing mindset after graduating, provided knowing what I want to do. now this is the hardest part sad.gif

The thing is, the ordinary compliance and reporting roles really don't excite me. I'm more interested in decision making roles rather than compliance matters based on past data that do not add value that much.
(cost accounting maybe, but i m more interested in works about analyzing capital allocation and investment decision of a company than cost accounting)


Please advise me regarding the available routes and opportunities for my case, maybe even better explaining with your own experience (as from your former posts, I guess you have a lot of experiences in both of auditing and commercial environment that can give me some really useful advices.)

Thanks man smile.gif

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