the most amazing? its a good amp, but definitely not one of the most amazing metal amps around. u do know very well zakk had to come up with mxr for his signature overdrive pedal which was not used merely as an overdrive but to push his amp. hmmm... which marshall was it again?

i've tested that amp in chambers music, and the quality is as good as any 10watt amps...good for practicing but not gig or show...

btw, is rm450 the nett price? cuz that's wat they offer me that day...

My son got no pedals of FX and i don't even know what's a FX

What can a FX do and how much?

I think its Metal (coz i can't stand the music he listen in his room). He bought a Red Hot Chili Pepper CD and Metallica T-Shirt and Badge while in SG.

noted above comments, thanks

noted above comments, thanks

Went to CK Music today and they were closed Anyway went to Bentley and they got no Marshall 30/50W Amp for below RM2K. Saw the Roland Cube-30 (RM900) which my son said his friend got and he had heard the thing before. Also saw GT8 - looks cool but have no idea what it does besides it being able to plug into the computer.

Here my son's AX-50 (pic taken with my Dopod 818 Pro)

slash uses jcm800 as a backup only n sometimes rhythm parts

haha
i love the sound of vintage marshalls tho

but seriously..... there are other brands that are just as good / better u know =.=ll

soldano's and diezel are pretty fierce themselfs

i remember the SLO100 being one fat mofo..... love its tone

haha

FX is a short form for effects.. and a multieffects pedal.. well it does like it's namesake, provide effects. something like the modelling feature available on the Vox AD series and Roland Cube series. Some comes with an expression pedal which allows you to play around with the intensity. the Boss GT-8 is an example of such a pedal, it is the most highend multiFX from Boss.

This post has been edited by nerd: May 29 2006, 08:34 PM

A guitarist just doesn't rely on his amp and guitar alone to come up with sounds. He usually adds effects pedals or units to enhance the tone.

Most popular individual effect pedals will be overdrives/distortion units and a Wah pedal. Then there are delay effects, echo, reverb, looping, chorus, phaser...... the list will go on and on and on. Again, these are put in between the amplifier and guitar signal chain to provide some awsome effects.

Like Nerd says, the GT-8 is an excellent example of what a multi-fx is. From that one unit, you are able to get the sounds from a whole bunch of single pedals and put them together in a single contained unit.

Since he already has 5 guitars, get him a multi-fx pedal next so he can play around with different effects before setteling on his own unique sound. The Zoom G2.1u is getting rave reviews in this forum because it's cheap, has average effects, an expression pedal (used to control Wah effects or the volume) and also has the added bonus of allowing you to record directly to the PC via USB. More info on the pedal can be found here: http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/g21u/index.php

And since your son is into metal, I strongly suggest getting him a Wah pedal as well (yes, even though a multi-fx unit has a wah effect, it's best to get this on it's own). Wah effect is kind of like how the teacher in the Peanuts cartoon talks......The most popular brand of Wah's is from Dunlop and they produce killer Wahs. I suggest getting the GCB-90 wah if you're on a budget, but if you have a little bit more extra..... get him either the Crybaby from hell (Dimebag's signature Wah) or Slash's Signature wah...... both of them EXCELLENT Metal wahs.

Speaking of multi-fx........ my next effect pedal will be either the Vox Tonelab SE or the Zoom G9.2tt........ both using a tube pre-amp..... YUMMY!

if he's buying the Vox, i don't think a MultiFX pedal is necessary as it'll not utilize, but rather bypass, the modelling features and "tube" poweramp that Vox is famous for, IMO. it beats the purpose of buying it in the first place.. buy the Vox, and get a seperate wah.. that would be enough..

Keen to join the valvetronix club alr?

ok one more small review between the Marshall MG15MSII and Kustom Tube12.

Marshall.
consists of a 15w head, and two 10" cabs.
the clean sound on this isnt anything to shout about.
but if you're buying this you're probably not gonna be playing brokeback kinda songs anyway.
so on to the distortion of this thing.
basically it's crap with the volume at anything less than 4 or 5.
the amp really comes alive with the volume at 7 or more.
even without the gain on, a guitar equipped with a hot pickup is able to overdrive the amp and produce a nice kinda AC/DC sound from it, tho of cos not as saturated as a real tube amp.
but with the gain on at almost full volume, this thing can decently pull off some nice metal tones from the likes of slayer etc, and good enough to drive your neighbors mad, especially those who worship the cross.
the line-out on this is pretty decent too and sounds good enough with headphones, for when the neighbors decide to throw them crosses at you.
and just before people start comparing this to its little cousin the MG15, do realise that the MG15 is only a 8" open back combo.
This mini monster has two 10" closed back cabs, giving it all the power and bass you'll ever need.
plus this amp looks cool as a living room decoration

Kustom.
Little 12w amp with a 12ax7 in its preamp, and an 8" celestion speaker.
unlike the marshall, this amp doesnt take kindly to volume levels above 6 or 7, instead producing a sound similar to a cheap overdrive.
though with a speaker change this should improve alot.
the clean sounds on this though are pretty decent.
but again, i'm no brokeback kinda guy, so on to the distortion.
at low volumes, the gain on this is a very nice saturated sound, helped along by the 12ax7.
pulling off typical 80s rock and metal riffs sounds real good on this.
at a retail price of just over RM500, not many budget practice amps can come close to what this amp can produce.

This post has been edited by Everdying: May 31 2006, 02:49 PM

this thread demands clips of both amps.

I just read few of the FX/pedals threads.

i guess i won't be buying any MultiFX for now as my son just starting on Electric guitar and going to be self taught. Since we have bought the guitar and kind of 99% buying the Vox AD30/50VT, my "mission" is done and from now on up to my son decide what he wants (by the way, he's only fourteen). Thanks again guys for all your help.

buy the AD15 if he's not planning on gigging, later if he changes his mind, susah la. AD30 is already a gig-worthy amp.

oh but if he does change his mind, tell me when the AX-50 is for sale..

jk. all the best to your son, and we hope to have him join us here.

This post has been edited by nerd: May 29 2006, 11:58 PM

the marshall i'm gonna sell off i think.
only prob with the kustom is its a older model, so has no lineout, while the headphone out sux.

My next FX pedal must have 2 expression pedals..... Either that or I'm buying an Ernie Ball Volume pedal.... Man...... can you imagine my stage line-up?
Rotovibe, Wah, Whammy AND a Volume pedal???? freakin' crazy......

Hi,

Might be going to SG for a 3 months industrial training at NUS. Are the guitars there cheaper? Cos if they are significantly cheaper, thinking of a MIM Strat, then I can use the cash saved to upgrade the ceramic pups.

Thanks for any headsup.

guys, got any good stompboxes to recommend? i need a distortion/overdrive and wah for under rm900, so which one should i go for? boss? or line6?

btw, i'm quite confuse with the effects generated by the distortion pedal and the metal zone...wat's the difference between them?

seen my setup yet? one for anything on the gt8(everything from wah to whammy!!!!!!), one expression pedal(ev5. this too, can be assigned to anything on the GT8) but is mostly used as a volume pedal and my wonderful wah(and the auto footswitch features helps alot!). now i wish i have 4 legs

blacktrix, why are u recommending a zoom???? thats for ppl with a tight budget. with him, he could be going for a podxt rack with floorboard. lol.


ur son has more guitars then he already needs. u shouldve gotten him a FX pedal. at least a multi efx to start off with. ur son is really lucky to have u buy all that when he's just learning. wana adopt me? haha. anyways, make sure ur son saves up for his future gears as itll help him appreciate the gears more. alot of my gears are bought myself by saving up since i was 12, winning state/national level science competitions, playing as a session guitarist. all for my GAS.

Actually you have... give me your GT8 and I'ill help you step on them at the comfort of my house.

What kind of distortion are you looking for? I mean, what kind of music you want to play?

An Overdrive pedal is used to boost the signal of your exsisting distortion from your amp..... a Distortion is used to produce a, well, distortion all on it's own and a Metal Zone...... well...... that's a distortion pedal, which is for um...... metal. The Metal Zone is very grindy and very trebly and will totally suck your tone completely. It's good if you play trash metal and stuff like that..... but that's about all it can do....... not versatile at all......

and for a wah....... well...... I'm only used to Dunlop Wahs.... so I would recommend the cheapest.... the GCB-95.....

RM900 definately enough to get u what u want i think.. hahaha
depends what kinda distortion u wnat/need
ds-1 is always the standard for beginners... get a feel...
metalzone typically for the cruncher tone la..
MD-2
OD-2
SD-1
so many other models...
go to www.bossus.com.. listen to the sound samples...
for wah, dunlop lo... 535q... better than the classic.. classic wah lacks a volume control which if u may need a seperate equalizer or volume boost when u use it with distortion.. if not the sound won't punch through or more like can't even hear it

This post has been edited by MoNnY: May 31 2006, 11:58 AM