Useful Links for LC Owners :

King Of Moped 135 (KOM135)
Yamaha T135
Malaysian Bikers Community (MBC)
Moped Riders Community (MRC)

LYN 135LC Club V1
LYN 135LC Club V2
LYN 135LC Club V3
LYN 135LC Club V4
LYN 135LC Club V5
LYN 135LC Club V6

Whose name is not in the list, kindly PM me your details as above



This post has been edited by Are_keem: Jan 14 2011, 11:57 PM

Our Proud Ride!!

1. Spayz's ride :

2. xtreme_paranoid's ride :

3. charge-n-go's ride :

4. Are_keem's ride :

5. scoffer's ride :

6. kinwei3250's ride :

7. LilCroSs's ride :

8. samba18's ride :

9. UncleCheang's ride :

10. budakmentah's ride :

Our Proud Ride V2!!

11. Na0ki's ride :

12. DontdoDRUG's ride :

13. jsteoh93's ride :

14. Aaron135LC's ride :

15. Itsuki_Kun's ride :

16. mls_gamer's ride :


This post has been edited by Are_keem: Jan 13 2011, 06:23 PM

Tips to Improve Engine Performance

Minor mod (increase acceleration)
1. Remove air filter. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang.
4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100

Major mod
coming soon...

Sprocket Combination (Stock CDI)

acceleration + = increase by xx%
acceleration - = decrease by xx%

15-35 - 1st : 48kph, 2nd : 90kph, 3rd : 130kph, 4th : 180kph; acceleration - 10.0%
15-36 - 1st : 46kph, 2nd : 86kph, 3rd : 125kph, 4th : 175kph; acceleration - 7.8%
15-37 - 1st : 44kph, 2nd : 83kph, 3rd : 122kph, 4th : 169kph; acceleration - 5.1%
15-38 - 1st : 43kph, 2nd : 80kph, 3rd : 118kph, 4th : 160kph; acceleration - 2.6%

15-39 - 1st : 42kph, 2nd : 78kph, 3rd : 115kph, 4th : 155kph; acceleration no change

15-40 - 1st : 41kph, 2nd : 75kph, 3rd : 111kph, 4th : 151kph; acceleration + 2.6%
15-41 - 1st : 40kph, 2nd : 73kph, 3rd : 108kph, 4th : 148kph; acceleration + 5.1%
15-42 - 1st : 39kph, 2nd : 71kph, 3rd : 105kph, 4th : 144kph; acceleration + 7.8%
15-43 - 1st : 38kph, 2nd : 69kph, 3rd : 102kph, 4th : 140kph; acceleration + 10.0%

After changing racing CDI >> top speed for 4th gear can add about 10 - 20kph.

*Note* The above data is an estimation of potential top speed for each gear, and may vary from bike to bike.


Carburetor General Tuning Guideline:

A. Change the idle air-fuel mixture setting 1st.
B. If still not satisfied, change the needle position.
C. If none of the needle position is good, change the jettings.


A. Idle air-fuel mixture settings
1. Air screw set at about 2.5 turns for stock airflow. Modified exhaust + air filterless can use 2 turns.
2. Idle rpm increase a little more than normal.

B. Needle setting
1. There are 3 ticks on the needle jet.
2. The lowest tick will give us good FC, as it limits more petrol to flow from mainjet @ half throttle
3. The highest tick will give us bad FC, as it let more petrol flows from mainjet @ half throttle.

However, highest tick does not mean best acceleration. If too much petrol flows into the venturi, the mixture will become too rich. This will decrease the power at high rpm. So, try different needle clip position and feel which one has the best results.

C. Jet size setting
1. Change mainjet to #107.5 (stock #105)
2. Change pilotjet to #22.5 (stock #20). If there is no performance increase, then stick back to #20.
3. Change mainjet to #110 + pilotjet #22.5. <-- this should be a good pair.

Anything more than #110 mainjet will make the engine feels heavy, bcoz the mixture becomes too rich.


Disc Brake Tuning Meteorology

The theory covers the relationship between the total areas of the brake pots (Note, its area not count), brake pads, masterpump, the rigidity of the brake hose and the property of the brake pads. The point of improvement is to look for the limit of the system and upgrade it.

1. Single pot is less prone to uneven brake force compared to multiple pots when in case one of the pot jams.

2. Changing the brake rotor is a start. But if you do not see improvements, that means rotor is not the limitation, and you need to change other things to do a stopee (Nose brake).

3. Change brake hose to steel braided, so it is less likely to expand and eat up the brake budget. Try this, wrap ur hands around standard brake hose, and press the brake you will feel it expand. Anymore you press also won't increase braking performance.

4. Change to DOT5 brake oil (normal 1 can, but easily overheat. I go hill run for >1 hr, DOT5 is mandatory)

5. Change brake pads, I use Ferodo imported by Racing Boy. Ask for original ones, one set front about RM30~40. You can see more copper strands on the pads. Other good pads use metal strands so u can see silverly metal strands.

6. Must stiffen front fork absorber, and add a stabilizer bar. Use 15W-20 fork oil, make it about 25% stiffer than stock. 20W-50 fork oil is too stiff bcoz the oil is too not lean enuf, the bound and rebound SUX, I feel like riding on a horse. The traction sux too, bcoz front tyre can hardly grip on the road when going through uneven road (esp penang road).

7. Use ABS device (about RM100) <-- optional

Setting up Your Monoshock / Fork

For step-by-step and detailed guides on how to tune your monoshock / fork, please refer to the following link since the whole guides are too long to be pasted here. Many thanks to bro Aaron135LC for the link

Click Here


** many thanks to bro charge-n-go and bro alexei for the useful tips
stay tune for more tips

p/s : if anybody wanna share their modding tips too, you can PM me or just post in the thread, and I will update this post

This post has been edited by Are_keem: Nov 1 2010, 06:33 PM

reserved

can start posting now guys, remember to quote the post from previous version

thumbs up man vrs7

thanks for all the supports guys
i'll try my best to keep this thread more updated than before (now got my own maxis bband already )

hahah.. yippy!! got maxis ade.. haha

u can also include the suspension guide from aaron post b4 the link at vrs 6.

haha. the not-so-best part is, i pay for the monthly bill

which one bro? lazy to browse back

u pay 4 comfort 2 study so = worth. better than frustrated 4 finding internet access.

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Added on November 1, 2010, 6:20 pmhere u go

This post has been edited by 8zelk8: Nov 1 2010, 06:20 PM

haha. that one is undeniable, plus internet access is becoming crucial rite now.


thanks, i'll include the link in the guide

right now when got no internet... can die~~~ HAHAH

hahaha. true, especially can't get updates from facebook

haha.. thanks for the gratitude... =)

sometimes facebook.. if din open long.. u tend to go insane... haha...

hi there.

few questions for u guys regarding to LC.

1) Lately, my temperature indicator keep on warning me. I really don't know what's the problem here. Sometimes it go off, sometimes on.
Wish u could help me on this.

2) My LC had already reach 2 years. I started to feel that my ride has become slower, less pick-up etc. In other words, slightly out of their
real performance as we know it. Now, it is difficult to reach the top speed. Wish u could help me on this too.

3) I really noob when it comes to this matters.

2 years ade right.. mileage how much..? usually we would recommend u to go overhaul... about the indicator.. sometimes is the electronic kacau.. but regarding to the matter that ur bike already 2 years... time to check ur motor ade..

Same same performance decrease Maybe we hv get use to it so bo rasa d

bout the temp indicator, need to check with HLY. been like that b4. they say water got into some plug/connector for the TPS (carb), kacau wiring something like that. service for rm18 if not mistaken...

im planning on to overhaul my bike..
since its already 50k km..
i already read from other forum..
they said need to do TOP OVERHAUL..
actually.. wat is TOP OVERHAUL?

see this supermotard.. KTM DUKE 125

http://www.125duke.com/2760.0.html

hey bro thanks for keeping the LC135 forum alive!

This post has been edited by Spayz: Nov 1 2010, 10:17 PM

Oh my ! I'm LATE !!!

hi guys..
last sunday,i tried my father's 1st edition LC(perhaps)..plate with BJF****..
and i surprised with it's performance that touched 180km/h even the speedometer already 92k.. i'm not doing that yet for my new ES..(pantang 100 hari..ahaha)

Got question here:
1)b4 dis i heard that LC speedometer got some 'ralat' or error..is it true?...
2)where i can find Yamaha Specialist around Klang Valley..how bout the service cost?.is it costy?..
3)what is cut-off value?..is it the 'thing' that prevent our bike from speeding at flash light speed?

mileage is 120+. is it really necessary for me to go overhaul my ride? ..and usually after a long period of usage, what should i check? :noob:

if really long period of usage, would recommend u go find 1 foreman tht u hv trusted its hand skill but not talking skill la. ask him to open up ur block, check the piston head, piston seal, valve, gear clutch,conrod, service the carb, sprocket, tyre and engine oil. if the block really die from the long perid of usage, u can try an fz block coz its also an diasil like lc block.

lc meter really is ralat wan.. or we called it meter ringan... cannot trust...

the cost i not sure. wat u refer to? normal servicing? or...?

cut off value is 9.2k.. 1st gen i not sure.. 2nd and 3rd gen is 9.2k..

but if u say speed of light... i can't really agree with u... haha..

lc is only around 135cc... it is impossible if stock with the 1st gen cdi can push the bike to hit 180.. even 125z stock also max if i not wrong can hit 160.. thats a 2stroker bike.. LOL..

wah,what's the 9.2k thing?..cost or anything?..sorry,i'm kinda noob..
yeah,sometimes heard from other modded riders saying even stock 125 can max reach 160-170km/h..
one thing,how to remove 'cut-off value' thing..n where's da CDI is located?

9.2k RPM la..

hoho..thanks bro..analog meter LC dun have rpm one..
planning to convert it to KOSO UMA RACING DIGITAL METER..
can i believe on that digital meter..still ringan kah?

koso meter can be set to gps or heavy or ringan also can, it's an user friendly meter. so all the things is been setup by urself whether when u gonna change ur engine oil+ got time & also can set the trip a @ b @ c to c how far u go the mileage.

nice or not?
coz i'm looking a simple racing footrest that is not too high

1) yups, lat i try with my bike on 160kmh (on LC speedo). On GPS its only 78-80mph something.
So the actual speed when LC on 160kmh is really only 120-125kmh real speed only

2) depend on wat u servicing. Normal servicing = change EO, oil filter. EO variable but original oil filter cost around rm10-12 something.

3) yups. Old model LC circa 2005-2006(1st batch) can go faster bcoz IINM their rpm was set to max around 10k. New one only 9+k
something

CDI is under/behind ur bike front cover. refer pics





This post has been edited by [kuaLe]_AGX: Nov 2 2010, 12:04 PM

SUPER COOL MAN ! xD but rear footrest must take away ar?

dont tink so la coz its just single.. i want to keep the ori rear footrest

Oh... but this footrest... the gearing will terbalik... for SS 1up 2up 3up 4up then for ES is.. 1up 2down 3down 4down.... =.="

thanks so much bro kuale_agx..
u help me alot..is is the rpm we can set by urself when change to racing cdi?..any others modification need to be done?

cdi got many types, u can refer back to vrs 6 tht machai_world hv explain it in detail of it. if i not mistake la. page 118 post #2347

This post has been edited by 8zelk8: Nov 2 2010, 12:48 PM

ur welkam

i know very little about any sort of modification.. Even my bike still fully stock since day 1.

don't know if we can adjust the factory setting CDI. As for the 3rd party CDI..u can refer this link

http://rextorcdi.com/site/

owh,i see..
how bout rear brake?..some saying its dangerous n can't lepas roadblock y jpj..
some say that okay?..need opinions here..want to modify my new ES..

changing to disk brake is allowed, but dont put extra big disc

is it necessary to overhaul...
ada rasa berat semacam kah?klau yer...buat ajer overhaul
OVERHAUL - CLEAN UP INSIDE ENGINE INCLUDING FINDING PROBLEM PART

1. IS abit ERROR...JUST TOO LIGHT ralat THAN OTHERS BIKE..u can see the comparison ur meter with other bike meter
2. Hong Leong Yamaha locate at Sg Buloh : http://maps.google.com.my/maps?hl=en&biw=1...ved=0CCUQnwIwAQ

3. Cut off mean the limit of CDI setting...default setting is 8.5k to 9.xk[1st version LC]...more high RPM, more top on every gear


if like that...recent LC need to play with sprocket meyhhh...so, u can burst speed of CDI like me...hahahaha

komfem lepas.....modification of engine is need Puspakom approval

read DISC brake sometimes can't pass JPJ..bcoz its under 'bike modification'..

but depend on ur luck also..

This post has been edited by [kuaLe]_AGX: Nov 2 2010, 02:22 PM

This post has been edited by anep: Nov 2 2010, 02:40 PM

adalah berat skit..
in klang valley.. which shop has good hand skill for modi or repair lc?

btw.. i heard by doing dyno test n tune..
we can improve engine performance..

This post has been edited by budakmentah: Nov 2 2010, 07:07 PM

assalamualaikum~~
hello~~
jsut want to ask..
dlm LC ade x part yg org pggl blog/piston yg sama bentuk dari moto2 yamaha yg lain? i f not mistaken...the other bike...is callled *something*150 my fren said if that blog/piston part from 150 put in 135LC, LC can go faster reach over 180kmh
is the part i mentioned correct?

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Added on November 2, 2010, 3:21 pmoh er 1 more.....if mod LC with this single arm..is it illigal?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlS0yzShDxA

This post has been edited by pooky: Nov 2 2010, 03:21 PM

nice info... TQVM

just tried out nob1 triovale al series on my bike.. 1 word.. awesome! mayb cause kev87 already mod the bike manifold + muffler.. just now try out accel + top speed in highway.. with strong wind.. as usual.. bencana alam..

2nd, 3rd gear can pull throttle smoothly..i din feel like forcing the bike to go.. just smoothly... then in big wind.. cannot say its my real top speed la cause of the wind.. i can go max (109km/h gps).. then suddenly wind dunno go where.. the meter fly until 112km/h.. wootz... for a moment only the wind stop.. have to wait till this bencana gone.. then try again.. i think will hit 115km/h.. fuiyoooooo


funny thing is.. before i test my TS.. i stop at traffic light... then.. i feel weird how come got this uncle from behind looking at my pipe..because my visor is chrome..he dunno i looking at him through my side mirror...so i kept seeing him.. and he kept looking at me.. then hor.. green light ade.. i also vrooom lo.. slowly.. not fast.. i feel weird.. eh.. how come i can hear got 2 loud pipe sound.. i tot my sound echoed.. then reach another traffic light.. that uncle turn left i turn right.. then i was like WTF???

he is riding the Suzuki Shogun SP.. yoshimura exhaust.. I straight.. @.@.. ROFL... speechless... hahah... and all along i tot like wtf.. why he kept looking.. mayb admire the pipe.. then pass by.. yoshimura.. so freaking shiny and awesome.. hahha

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Nov 2 2010, 03:43 PM

Anyone selling rear brakes for LC, PM me details and price. New/used, both ok (but must see condition).
Loc : KL and Malacca.

How bout the sound ? xD

wasalam.. sure there is it..
ther 150 things that u said is blok for FZ150..
the blok is same as lc..
so. our lc can wear this blok..
57mm blok IINM..

for the sngle arm..
its illegal.. usually ppl install single arm for autoshow purpose..
but.. somtimes got ppl use on road...
the items already cost u around rm2k..
if u met JPJ.. sure u get surat cinta..

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Added on November 2, 2010, 3:45 pmfuiyoo.. nice speed u got there..


This post has been edited by budakmentah: Nov 2 2010, 03:45 PM

what is this nob1 triovale al series thingy? this ar? http://www.automotivespartsshop.com/image-product/img27.JPG


blok for FZ150 zost how much ye?

This post has been edited by pooky: Nov 2 2010, 03:58 PM

sound ar.. i record using my digital camera.. it cannot capture the sound that i hear... its way louder than inside video.. nvm.. i will upload it in youtube.. =) ok.. i check myself ade.. only way is to turn on the volume.. then listen.. the sound is almost like that...can hear clearer sound..

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Added on November 2, 2010, 4:00 pmyes.. but my silencer hole not that shape... its circular.. modded one..

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Added on November 2, 2010, 4:03 pmyeap... thanks.. =) 115 is around 150++ ade on lc meter...

hopefully can reach that...

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Nov 2 2010, 04:14 PM

blok fz u can get around rm350 - 400..
if IINM.. this one is came from indon..
from HLY.. the price around rm500 like that...

er sry....ask so many question...
if we change our LC cover set like the 1 from indon(shape)(fearing part kalu tak silap)..is it illigal?

is there any page i can learn about all illegal n legal rule about modifying bike in malaysia? sbb kalo dah baca tak perlu lah nak susahkan korang utk jawab soalan aku byk2 kat sini.

oh ee budakmentah...i'm joining your group in fb...hope can aprrove me...and help me gain more knowledge about LC

This post has been edited by pooky: Nov 2 2010, 04:20 PM

no prob bro.. for modification.. u can see anep post above..
post #47

hehe welcome to the group..
u may also ask any question regarding lc135 things there..
i also learnt things from there n this forum..

This post has been edited by budakmentah: Nov 2 2010, 04:35 PM

ohh k thnx bro

my pipe video in youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktPoh70nBDM

OMG~!!!!
I LOVE THE SOUND~!!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3

haha.. the sound is like putting liquid inside the blender.. and blend it.. thats if in high rpm... brrrruoaaannnnnnnnggggg.....

huhu i think i'v fal in love with this nob1...
my heart "doki doki" watching this

from V6 :

wow, 4 years old bike with such a low mileage, 1st batch one summore.. really a rare gem. a lil bit pricey though, rm4.5k is more suitable i think.

i'm also saw it 06 year with 4.9k++. hoho its really make an eye lor with below 5k target.

u say izzit possible the rider wan to sell his lc here with low mileage? BEWARE! mileage can reset!

1st owner can do anything to the bike and claim it.. we just buy it.. dunno anything... =)

i know lor just like when u buy the pipe lor. we dunno how its perform well or not.

recommend to use PnP type....

nice speed....jangan nak bandingkan Yoshimura ngan Nobi..hehehe...

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Added on November 2, 2010, 8:20 pmbelow is pomen that my friend test...
after modification on that pomen[stevoc]...he test Gombak > Kedah > Thailand > Gombak [4 bikes convoy]

NO PROBLEM!!! OVERHAUL [CUCI ENGINE ONLY] RM100, OTHER CHARGES [IF GOT ANY PROBLEM PART..KENA TAMBAH DUIT LA]

Stevoc [Petaling Jaya,cakap kenal dari geng KOM135] - lupa la no tel dia...call Palex http://motor-part4u.blogspot.com/ ...cakap mintak no telefon Stevoc...kenal la dia

then, UTM Racing that locate at Gombak....this workshop one of Cubprix team name Sinar MBC UTM Racing....
got dyno test here and tuning

[one of MBC user test on this workshop with below service, got max meter on this service]
Dyno test charge - RM50
Tuning till maximum limit - RM50
other's part changing for tuning - RM depend

UTM Racing / HBK Motor
Model 250
14, Jalan Gombak,
53000 KL, Malaysia
Tel. +603-4023-8263

good handwork

then, got pomen from Bangi...name Wan cai[melayu]...not sure got overhaul service or not....try to call him
Emir [kawan baik wan] - 0172339948 [kalau kenal dari sapa,cakap kenal dari member Rafiq@Selayang]

one of good pomen from LCBC...memang best dia nih,peramah

This post has been edited by machai_world: Nov 2 2010, 08:21 PM

Alamak that is nob1 trioval SS la not AL la... Aiyo ss round tip AL triangle tip one... So now aaron n jing are using the same pipe la XD Btw how much is the footrest u guys posted at previous page???

u know wht is after mod the pipe hole muffler side. can u c the marks of an welding at its end muffler hole.

it is AL... the tip he modded.. my nob1 is not stock nob1.. is modded nob1.. got welding wan...

nice info machai!!
really need to keep this info..
really2 appriciate..

the one that do tune test..
izzit his bike is fully stndrt?

This post has been edited by budakmentah: Nov 2 2010, 09:05 PM

If it is an AL that means even the nob1 logo has been change la rite??? Seriously i don't think it is an AL

This post has been edited by bizzy123: Nov 2 2010, 09:07 PM

i just check.. in this video.. mine is triovale ss.. not al..

and my ss inside the silencer modded already..

eh u! 2 years riding lc ade.. din do anything also.. ==

http://en.kendincos.net/video-frtrdhfl--ya...riovale-al.html

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Added on November 2, 2010, 9:19 pm[quote=machai_world,Nov 2 2010, 08:05 PM]
recommend to use PnP type....
nice speed....jangan nak bandingkan Yoshimura ngan Nobi..hehehe...

of course la.. LOL!! thats why i feel weird why that uncle staring at my pipe... sedangkan dia sudah pakai yoshimura.. LOL!

This post has been edited by Aaron135LC: Nov 2 2010, 09:19 PM

U try to ask him uncle next time if meet him, mau tukar ar??? If u mau my pipe then add me RM100 XD

i buy time.. he got ask me u wan black or silver... i told him black.. if i took the silver wan.. it should be al series d...

but black colour low profile...

silap2 kamu yang kena charge RM500...

palex ada jual tuh RM680 [paling murah saya jumpa ORIGINAL],peramah org nyer

kalau ada murah,share sini k...

one of my fren use it said the performance is special, especially manifold is superb special....

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Added on November 2, 2010, 10:22 pmyup...

This post has been edited by machai_world: Nov 2 2010, 10:22 PM

o00.. if like... later then..
juz gi do overhaul and tuning..
then buy yoshimurah.. haha

HEHEHE...suka kamu la...

kena pantang balek...abis la...motor standard laju lepas nih...

kalau mau exhaust original kilang baik gi operate chamber n manifold kat Takim
http://www.scramriders.com/forum/showthrea...-EXHAUST-SYSTEM.

many user from various forum puji kerja tangan Takim from smaller Scooter to Superbike,dia boleh buat....go ask him what spec did you wan operate from ur exhaust

if me:
- more Top speed
- utk Standard engine
- kekalkan bunyik standard or Yoshimura bunyik...then spray black use Samurai high temp [elakkan karat]

or you can ask them to make yoshimura for you...name might be Takimura

could you ask him what is price for that request for me...hehehe

This post has been edited by machai_world: Nov 2 2010, 10:48 PM

wat u mean by custom pipe..? create a pipe from scratch? or use the stock pipe to operate..?? i see the price quite high also.. hahah

hehehe...tepuk poket tnya duit...

kalau tebal...amek terus yoshimura....borak ngan palex bulan lepas,katanyer dia maybe takmo jual yoshimura,busy giler....

amek jangan tak amek....mcam saya nih,masih kekalkan cj ipoh,bunyik ok jer...tak la semerdu tribold n yoshimura

o0o0.. nice info again from machai..
hehe.. now already pening kepala..
got multiple of choices..

btw.. macam mane performance cj ipoh?
u use stndrt engine right?

This post has been edited by budakmentah: Nov 2 2010, 11:19 PM

Loud pipe sure nice wei aaron mana u bought ur pipe??? Got one more AL???

right now he got 2 nob1 left in petaling jaya... he using the silver triovale now.. and he wan to sell his nob1 rainbow colour.. he say that wan more expensive than triovale.. so he going to sell it rm100... + postage shud be rm120.. mine rm100 + postage...


u wan let me know... can buy and plug it once in a while.. not bad ma.. can perang with ppl.. hahah.. or during TT.. all also vrooom!