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News Dell XPS 15 is back! ~ rm2999 ~ It has launch!, Core i5, GT420M, 4GB, 500GB, JBL subwoof

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post Oct 22 2010, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2010, 01:24 PM)
But eugenchiu you are forgetting the specs of USA laptops and Malaysia laptops are not the same. They typically get more, and better, options, for a much lower price. And you cannot compare the mini because it costs only like, what, RM1000? How does this RM1000 compare to some laptops which cost more than RM1500 more than the one in the USA? Shipping or tax cannot even reach RM1500.
If u mean Netbooks being overly cheap in USA, it's a true fact cause in US they kinda did this on purpose so everyone can have a laptop from the first release...

Well put that aside, I am talking about the recent models of laptops of same specs... If you have checked UK and AUS price for M101Z, you'd know that after conversion both UK and AUS selling it for more than RM2K while Malaysia selling it for RM1.5k for the same thing... US around the same price as Malaysia as well...

for MBA, i guess u'd know that USA sells the cheapest Apple Mac products and how everyone tries to get hold of 1 from USA... Remember how Apple products are overpriced in Malaysia? Even the entry level MBP was like 40% more expensive than USA... Now the new MBA is only like 5% more expensive than USA.. it's definitely a fact that the prices of laptops in Malaysia are slowly shifting...

So in Malaysia now, laptops are not necessary much more expensive just that our options are more restricted....
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post Oct 22 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2010, 05:39 PM)
Soup did you miss the part where "XPS will be replacing Studio and Studio XPS"?

And did you know Alienware has/had the same GPU as Studio XPS 16? It's not products competing against each other. The main point is to sell any and all products.

Since many will agree to an extent ATI/AMD GPU > Nvidia Geforce this was a bad mistake by Dell.
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Ok means Dell made a wrong move? Still the specs look ok to me, right?
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post Oct 22 2010, 06:35 PM

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Trying to negotiate i5 + GT435M. Then I will buy. Or else, a long wait sad.gif Was really looking forward to this and I like the metal parts.
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post Oct 22 2010, 06:37 PM

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not really a wrong move, more like THE only move...

if they continue to use HD5000, they can't differentiate XPS from SXPS...


Added on October 22, 2010, 6:38 pm
QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2010, 06:35 PM)
Trying to negotiate i5 + GT435M. Then I will buy. Or else, a long wait sad.gif Was really looking forward to this and I like the metal parts.
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if i were u, i would go for SXPS16...

HD5730 is not too shabby... unless u re a die hard NV fanboy... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 22 2010, 06:38 PM
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post Oct 22 2010, 06:38 PM

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I got email from DELL...quite interesting specs and price

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post Oct 22 2010, 06:41 PM

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I would prefer an XPS 17.

But I liked that XPS 15 had an unobstructed vent, and USB 3.0 (for what it's worth), and no leather (I think SXPS comes with leather here by default does it not).

Of course upside is ATI 5730 which is the best decision ever made by a Dell employee in my honest opinion. If only this simple feat could be repeated once, and quickly.
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post Oct 22 2010, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2010, 06:41 PM)
I would prefer an XPS 17.

But I liked that XPS 15 had an unobstructed vent, and USB 3.0 (for what it's worth), and no leather (I think SXPS comes with leather here by default does it not).

Of course upside is ATI 5730 which is the best decision ever made by a Dell employee in my honest opinion. If only this simple feat could be repeated once, and quickly.
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honestly speaking, i ve some doubts on USB 3.0... especially when LightPeak is a much more promising alternative, and Intel is also funding for the project...
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post Oct 22 2010, 07:01 PM

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Can anybody who knows about Processors and VRAM...

They claim i5 cannot support 2GB GT435M, this is not true right?

Cause they also claim "i7 cannot support 1GB GT420M" which is obviously false.
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There's Acer 5745G with i7 740QM and nVidia GT420M laugh.gif
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post Oct 22 2010, 07:08 PM

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OK Dell still refuses to admit the truth...

Anyways I found Sager laptops with 1.5 and 2GB Nvidia VRAM GPU options paired with i5 processors, but Sager warranty is dodgy.

Now if only we could pair Sager's obvious understanding of customers' demands with Dell's warranty - hey Dell, I have an idea, acquire Sager!
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post Oct 22 2010, 07:24 PM

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nah, they juz want to bundle everything together...

any chance if complain to consumer's association? laugh.gif


Added on October 22, 2010, 7:28 pmi juz checked Dell AU...

XPS 14 = 740QM + GT 425M + 6GB RAM
XPS 15 = 740QM + GT 435M + 6GB RAM
XPS 17 = 840QM + GT 445M + 8GB RAM + BD

starts from AU$1499 (14 & 15) and AU$2499 (17)... laugh.gif

now that's wat ia call product differentiation... less headache for the buyers...

pretty good deal considering that SXPS 16 starts from AU$1599 with 460M, HD565v and 6GB RAM...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 22 2010, 07:32 PM
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post Oct 22 2010, 07:32 PM

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LOL nice try but it has little to do with the consumers' association I'm afraid. But it really irks me that they would lie about it - not just MY, but USA, UK, France, etc. But at least they have XPS 17, we don't!

Dell can go ahead and lose all the customers it wants. Promotes optimus but restricts the actual product.

Oh and when I was asking Dell (MY) about it, one "agent" cut me off, while the other "agent" initially claimed that the XPS was only launching in the future. Psshh...

Don't Buy XPS!
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post Oct 22 2010, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 22 2010, 07:32 PM)
LOL nice try but it has little to do with the consumers' association I'm afraid. But it really irks me that they would lie about it - not just MY, but USA, UK, France, etc. But at least they have XPS 17, we don't!

Dell can go ahead and lose all the customers it wants. Promotes optimus but restricts the actual product.

Oh and when I was asking Dell (MY) about it, one "agent" cut me off, while the other "agent" initially claimed that the XPS was only launching in the future. Psshh...

Don't Buy XPS!
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juz let it get over first...

iirc at first SXPS 16 also restrict HD5730 must go with quad core... later they relax it also...


Added on October 22, 2010, 7:35 pmok, i juz checked, it's the same thing in Dell SG... higher spec graphic card must go with quad core...

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post Oct 22 2010, 10:37 PM

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i think laptop looks amazing..oni thing that makes me go "AHHHHHHH! WTH IS THIS!?" is the keyboard area...looks jz like inspiron..doesn't have tat xps look anymore ><..nonetheless..if itz around 2000+ seems ok i guess
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:11 AM

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how many usb port does it have?
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:16 AM

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XPS 14, USB2.0 should be three. XPS 15 and 17, USB 3.0 two, one combo USB 2.0/SATA.

Yeah the keyboard kinda looks ugly except for the touchpad/palmrest, and the touch media keys kind of suck. Volume/media keys are way better.

Don't buy XPS!
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post Oct 23 2010, 03:13 AM

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is it really that bad? why u so hate it? mind give some explanation? hmm.gif hmm.gif

i thinking to buy a new 15" laptop <3.5k. after seeing that u state dont buy xps so i begin to Hesitate. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 07:19 AM

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nice!!
but still cannot challenge studio xps design.

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QUOTE(lengnui89 @ Oct 23 2010, 03:13 AM)
is it really that bad? why u so hate it? mind give some explanation?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

i thinking to buy a new 15" laptop <3.5k. after seeing that u state dont buy xps so i begin to Hesitate.  rclxub.gif
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hardware wise it's pretty alright... nothing much surprising in there since u get the same thing from Asus N53Jq...

the sore thumb are mainly the plain design compared to SXPS and the original XPS, and the bundling sales tactic of GT 435M must come with quad core (that's a real deal breaker if u ask me... customization has always been Dell's advantage over the other brands, but now it's no different from others, not to forget u lose Optimus when u do that, and Dell's SA have not been helpful on explaining the reason of that either)


Added on October 23, 2010, 9:00 am
QUOTE(nabielz @ Oct 23 2010, 07:19 AM)
nice!!
but still cannot challenge studio xps design.
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honestly, imho the original XPS design is the winner... take a look at XPS M1730...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 23 2010, 09:00 AM
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post Oct 23 2010, 10:09 AM

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yea..i used to own both m1530 and m1730..both have really nice design..looks more like original dell gaming laptop feeling

the new one jz doesn't have the looks anymore..but then again, aside from the interior looks..exterior looks not bad and the specs seems a lot more worth it..comparing to the old xps..i remember getting my m1530 T8100, 8600m gt at rm4k+ biggrin.gif

wonder how good is their cooling system..i noe the m1530 is impressive but the m1730 is jz a portable oven xD

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