yeah! we all set a date sign and submit together for alarm wiring (mayb alarm as well )

also, sign together ask them to fence up fuego, since they already allocated for this (means we have paid).
if we din't sound out now and keep quiet, sure they oso diam diam and tak payah do anything with our extra pay!

This post has been edited by fuego: Jan 18 2011, 11:07 AM

i thk Alarm part is do-able...
but fencing part... hmm, this might take sometime...
coz take note, even for sound barrier they cant install until its VPed
else, will affect approval frm MPK...
another thg i juz realized - the lake, that's public access...
how are we gonna fence up Fuego (and also the latest 2.5 superlink facing lake)...
coz remember under G&G, cnot fence up part of a taman oni...
moreover, SD can always juz deny it say no such allocation blah2...
xcept for sound-barrier; tis is promised...

mmmm....

you guy have to wait until the 2 1/2 storey beside lake to be up then if all agreed, there is possibility to fence it up together with the lake.

meaning, it will become private lake. but for now, you can't do anything.

yeah, unless all appealed and then SD agrees to fence up Fuego...
when applying permit for Fuego, they might even xtend to cater 2.5s Lakeside too...
then they will workout some % for maintenance and security fee...
and then, retailed their lakeside higher selling price coz its G&G

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Added on January 18, 2011, 12:06 pmBad news, fencing is no longer possible...
but for alarm, we can write in pending mgmt approval...
anyway, will try to write to them...
but how are we gonna get "votes" to strengthen our request?

This post has been edited by edlim: Jan 18 2011, 12:06 PM

I have set up a facebook account "fuego simedarby" for owners and future committee, please message house no/street for me to accept and compile if you are serious in pursuing these issues. I have no experience in this but serious in contributing as Fuego will be my home. Hopefully, we can team up and work together to get the ball rolling.

I am on Jln 12 Type A3. My friend A2 on Jln 15. I will be back in Malaysia Jan 26, would be happy to meet up the future neighbours.



edlim : fencing no go is for now or never?

This post has been edited by celicacultus: Jan 18 2011, 12:36 PM

how come?

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Added on January 18, 2011, 12:35 pmcelicacultus have set up a facebook account "fuego simedarby".
we might set a date to get together. and each of us here that read this to help inform those that they know, and try to ask them to join as well. else try to get their signature if they cannot trun up.

This post has been edited by fuego: Jan 18 2011, 12:35 PM

I will reach Malaysia Jan 27
Mine Type 1 - Jln 17

This post has been edited by ebuq: Jan 18 2011, 12:54 PM

fencing not possible as of now...
but what i gonna proposed is for SD to built a nicer g/hse wif manual boom (for guarded comm.)

FB acc ar?
aiyaya... i cant access those in ofis :">
how bout in forum?
u thk can make use of BBR forum (http://www.bukitraja.net/)
i hope they will react to tis as it's unofficial BBR forum...
Mine Jln 17 - Type A1.

Fencing up Fuego and the lake is not practical, IMO. I believe approval is given to SD so that the lake serves as recreation to public. Fencing up will be unfair to other phase buyers. Besides, maintenance fee will be high for such a huge lake.
For alarm, is doable...
I just realized autogate & doorbell points are provided, will edit my earlier post

i will be back KL on 28 Jan

Mine Jln 16 - Type A2.

And mine will be in Jln 13, A4 type.
U guys all balik for CNY, and I pulak cabut on the 6th Feb till month end month.

Do accept me on the Fuego on FB, user name Ken Yong. Thanks!

could be better to have nicer guardhouse wif auto barrier , because like in sa with mannual boom, the 80% of the times, guard totally never check on the vehicle entering, they just open the barrier whenever vehicle come. the guard difficult or lazy to check the vehicle wether is resident or outsider.
some more with only 1 lane for in and out, is oso problem/difficult for the guard to stop all outsider cars.

the guardhouse SHOULD have 2 lane for in & 2 lane for out and cctv. 1 lane with auto barrier is for resident with access card, another lane with mannual barrier which close all the time, is for outsider to enter, all outsider need to registered themself before entering. this method, the guard no need to put any efford to check wheter is outsider or not since resident will have the card to enter directly using the lane with auto barrier, and every enteree that without card need to stop the car at the other lane with manual barrier and register themself before enter.
Same work to the exit.

we should ask for this kind of guardhouse, it is more efficient.

else the practice with only single lane seems not doing and guards tends to let every car enter without any check.

This post has been edited by fuego: Jan 18 2011, 02:32 PM

yeah, either put a efficient guard or just dont bother to put one. as you notice, most of the fencing and such with lousy security checkpoint is totally pointless/useless.

i've passthru many type of security (whether it's SA, BBT or whatever) where the guard don't even bother to check my identity.

even with the card system, the guard might go lazy. (one good example would be a G&G opposite Giant Bandar Bukit Tinggi where tenant required to touch to enter while guest need registering. i went to my friend's house many times and just tell them "cari kawan, jalan 14i or whatever", the palang will go up for me without asking further question. so it's a failing process.

the best G&G I've seen is Bukit Rimau/Bukit Kemuning luxury house. My uncle bought a land and build his own house. We try to enter the compound but was stopped. Even able to provide tenant details, the guard will still call directly to the tenant for verification. Then proceed with registration details.

all of you worked overseas ar? ahahahha...

I'm back Malaysia 27th but I'm paloma...any paloma want do FB'ing? hahaha

the G&G over the ecopark and ambang are strict. the rest, aiya....kacang putih one la, see the quality of guard sudah tau. Either mangkalai, or nepalese, or even india mari. All sleepy face sit in the guardhouse show hand only when u entering.

Fuego mahal lah, need to go oversea cari lombong emas once in a while ma.....hahahaaaaaa

Kemuning Hills : they will call the residents to verify your visit first then register.

http://www.townplan.gov.my/new_web/pengumuman/gpdated.pdf

Gated Community : perimeter fencing ok, 50% visibility but cannot walled up, 1 hector min., etc....
Guarded Neighbourhood : no fencing allowed

Will read in details later tonight.

those area like condo style, got intercom to evy hse...
to have G&G, one need to convert the land into strata tittle...

By definition, "Gated Community" refers to a gated and guarded residential community, either in highrise or landed properties. The properties in a Gated Community need to have strata title (including landed strata). This kind of community is only allowed in limited location in urban area.

Next, need to have management team much similar like condo...
collection will include security fee, maintenance (maybe landscape too),cleaning road/lake,sinking fund, etc.

Maciam susah unless we got strong committee as well as resources...
Or SD allows us to engage their mgmt team to over-see the entire management...

to ask SD to pay for a team that look after your zone welfare is almost impossible unless the cost bared by all tenants. this mission is pretty much impossible as well and therefore KHALASSSSS (forget about it)

the only way to do this is when SD launched it with G&G where all buyer acknowledged of the price and willing to pay for it. SD will be in-charge for the first 1-2 years and remaining will be hand-over to your own zone community. :-)

i m willing to pay for the fees if they done their job well.

This post has been edited by fuego: Jan 18 2011, 05:40 PM

this is correct. if not designated and sold as gng be dev, very hard to change. with new rules, almost impossible.

another way to look at it - some buyers buy becos not gng, dunwan and no need to pay any sec/maint fees.

du u guys meet around go for SD (mayb for the most practical thing ie. alarm thingy, and nice guard house) any day end of this month.