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fuego
post Jan 17 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 11:56 AM)
Fuego is a superlink which in term of classification should be more costly in comparison to standard link of 22X75 and below. Look at the design of paloma/fuego also oredi know it will cost more than the new launching of Avani.....  hmm.gif  Only Paloma/Fuego is within the lake vicinity, which highly possible to be made GG in the near future. I will definitely request for GG once i stay there....let's create a community and demand for that. My 2cent worth of thought.....

I did asked before why SD mark down the price of Avani instead of earlier announced 470-480k. The reply was saying due to poor market demand of current Setia Alam launching of  20x70 at 618k. They decided to mark down to create more sales......so called la.....

But i guess, it is totally a marketing gimmick to create more pull factor. All the sales guy of BBR quoting 470-480k for Avani earlier before, and then the actual priced at 438k. Many ppl will suddenly feel 'wow' it is much cheaper and tempted to buy. Well, i would think 470-480k is costly too..... icon_idea.gif
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Yup, i agree with u, the premium price for fuego should be come with G&G! yeah lets create a community to demand for that! thumbup.gif
but do u think this is possible? AFAIK, G&G houses are in diffrent title, correct me is im wrong. SD will wish or SD will able to do so in the future?
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post Jan 17 2011, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 12:09 PM)
Yup, i agree with u, the premium price for fuego should be come with G&G! yeah lets create a community to demand for that!  thumbup.gif
but do u think this is possible? AFAIK, G&G houses are in diffrent title, correct me is im wrong. SD will wish or SD will able to do so in the future?
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i think it can be created by local community, as long as everyone willing to pay for the fencing and the community need to be strong. title wise i am not so sure.
Of coz, firstly create a strong community to go directly to SD to get it done for GG. Else it could be some hefty amount also to pay to fence up the area. icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 17 2011, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 12:16 PM)
i think it can be created by local community, as long as everyone willing to pay for the fencing and the community need to be strong. title wise i am not so sure.
Of coz, firstly create a strong community to go directly to SD to get it done for GG. Else it could be some hefty amount also to pay to fence up the area.  icon_idea.gif
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bro, sorry not to pour cold water, it is not that easy unfortunately .... need to get consent from certain % of the residents + from the local authority as this land is not gazetted as GnG development in the 1st place ... also, under the new g&g rule, since it is on a public land, the guardhouse cannot be a permanent structure ... there is extensive discussion about this in Setia Alam forum ... also BBR was not designed to facilitate GnG , cos it is not single entry into every parcel, making it harder to realize this ... just my 2 cents

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post Jan 17 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ken7908 @ Jan 17 2011, 12:16 PM)
i think it can be created by local community, as long as everyone willing to pay for the fencing and the community need to be strong. title wise i am not so sure.
Of coz, firstly create a strong community to go directly to SD to get it done for GG. Else it could be some hefty amount also to pay to fence up the area.  icon_idea.gif
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should ask SD to fence for us as they collect premium price from us. if i m not misstaken, fuego price is very very close to setia alam superlink G&G's tamalan/bayan in RM psf.

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edlim
post Jan 17 2011, 02:02 PM

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they can, i've also heard they have fancing allocation...
but then, legally they cant do anythg...
G&G is quite hard to achieve now compare to last time (look at most USJ areas)...
it can oni be simplified if SD steps in to assist us in acquiring such permits...
and also, having their mgmt team to overlook community management...
they can if they want to, they will oso need to issue DMC for all residence to sign (and agree)...
Otherwise, we juz ask them built a proper guard hse like in Setia...

P/s: Y not we collectively gather signature and then ask for certain "upgrades" (e.g. Alarm sys.) or services (G&G)...

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By definition, "Gated Community" refers to a gated and guarded residential community, either in highrise or landed properties. The properties in a Gated Community need to have strata title (including landed strata). This kind of community is only allowed in limited location in urban area.

Meanwhile, "Guarded Neighbourhood" refers to residential community with individual land title properties which has security service either with or without security house. It can be of "guarded only" (without fence) and "guarded and gated" (with fence).

For Gated Community:

-Minimum area under the scheme is 1 hectar and maximum is 10 hectar (200-500 house units)
-The roads and shared amenities inside the GC belong to the community, and managed by Management Corporation elected by the residents
-Building of wall to separate the community from its neighbourhood is not allowed
-Social Impact Analysis needs to be carried out before the establishment of GC be considered
-Need to have 2 entrances/exits (one for main usage, another for emergency)
-Perimeter fencing of height not more than 9 feets and at least 50% visible from outside is allowed
-Boom gate is not allowed (*<- funny, y not allowed)
Guard house of 1.8m x 2.4m
-The houses cannot be more than 4 levels (18.5 meters) from basement
-Visitors' parking must be allocated

For Guarded Neighbourhood:

-Only allowed in urban area
-Establishment of GN needs to be proposed by Residents Association and supported by majority of the residents
-Guard house of 1.8m x 2.4m or smaller
-Manual boom gate with 24 hours security control can be considered
-Guards need to registered with Home Ministry

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ed1torz
post Jan 17 2011, 02:04 PM

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if you look carefully again.. nearby the lake, there is 1 police station



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TSmessi88
post Jan 17 2011, 02:41 PM

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I want gated community! Police station also not safe nowadays..
fuego
post Jan 17 2011, 03:24 PM

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Paloma 1 recently sold by developer for RM 562K! ?
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post Jan 17 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 03:24 PM)
Paloma 1 recently sold by developer for RM 562K! ?
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nok harom. I guess those are with great numbers
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post Jan 17 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 17 2011, 04:38 PM)
nok harom. I guess those are with great numbers
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wat is nok harom?
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post Jan 17 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 05:01 PM)
wat is nok harom?
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its a malay swearing i learned. it's equivalent to Beckham's first son. LOL
ken7908
post Jan 17 2011, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(fuego @ Jan 17 2011, 03:24 PM)
Paloma 1 recently sold by developer for RM 562K! ?
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memang true, my cousin just got it at that price of rm562k.

the developer hike up the price and sell as 'strategic unit' with nicer number. This will happen also soon for Fuego I......
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post Jan 17 2011, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(edlim @ Jan 17 2011, 02:02 PM)
they can, i've also heard they have fancing allocation...
but then, legally they cant do anythg...
G&G is quite hard to achieve now compare to last time (look at most USJ areas)...
it can oni be simplified if SD steps in to assist us in acquiring such permits...
and also, having their mgmt team to overlook community management...
they can if they want to, they will oso need to issue DMC for all residence to sign (and agree)...
Otherwise, we juz ask them built a proper guard hse like in Setia...

P/s: Y not we collectively gather signature and then ask for certain "upgrades" (e.g. Alarm sys.) or services (G&G)...

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if possible better gather signature now for them to do in one go together with the construction. possible? laugh.gif

if not, it will take decade for them to do all this after VP. sweat.gif

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onewan
post Jan 17 2011, 09:05 PM

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what are the difference term between superlink (Feugo) and normal link (Avani)..??
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post Jan 17 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(onewan @ Jan 17 2011, 09:05 PM)
what are the difference term between superlink (Feugo) and normal link (Avani)..??
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Apart from the size and bu which is obvious, based on what i know:

difference
- fuego 3 phase vs avani 1 phase (except for end and corner lot)
- fuego slightly better specs (eg: porcelain tiles vs ceramic tiles)


similarities
- modern facade
- location (fuego and avani next to each other)

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post Jan 17 2011, 10:50 PM

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hse selection can be as easy as ordering drink preference...
e.g. frm Chinese tea to VSOP/etc.

a superlink is often refered to as semi-d w/o land...
y coz, typical semi-D 34x75, minus 10ft land...
hse size, shld be ard 24x75 rite...
hence, if i recall correcty, DSL wif 24ft width or more are often refered to as superlink
the above is my 2cent opinion nia...

my cousin bot a hse in M'cca
my gosh, its damn spacious... 24x70 - full b/up (24xxs.f.)
tiles 2x2 porcelain, main gate - wrought-iron, stairs oso wrought iron...
3phase ready, etc and oni cost RM246k, seriously,
master + balcony (cum porch roof),
his intention to close up balcony, geez, it's HUGE!!!
semi-d abt 40x75/80, abt 4xxk nia...
tempting man... but too bad... in M'cca...
perhaps 2-3yrs ago in Klang still possible... now no more lor.... sad.gif
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post Jan 17 2011, 11:38 PM

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I second the signature petition to SD as I was thinking about the alarm as well, to conceal the wiring later will be quite a mess, I will pay for the alarm, just want them to bury the wires like the auto gate & doorbell.


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post Jan 18 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 17 2011, 11:38 PM)
I second the signature petition to SD as I was thinking about the alarm as well, to conceal the wiring later will be quite a mess, I will pay for the alarm, just want them to bury the wires like the auto gate & doorbell.
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I will definitely second! nod.gif

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post Jan 18 2011, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(celicacultus @ Jan 17 2011, 11:38 PM)
I second the signature petition to SD as I was thinking about the alarm as well, to conceal the wiring later will be quite a mess, I will pay for the alarm, just want them to bury the wires like the auto gate & doorbell.
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:43 AM

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yeah... we set a date then submit our letter 2gather?

- Include Alarm System (bugger it will oni cost them RM1.5k wif wiring) for bulk purchase (whole Fuego leh) since not G&G - Setia can gv, takkan 1/5mil hse can't include - last time i ask, SA said will highlight nia, otherwise, juz loop the zone lor if dun 1 to pull too many wires rite?
- Funny lar, in M'cca,they will call the engineer attending ur upgrade during construction e.g. add fan point, light point, xtra plugpoint (yeah add zone too - includes Alarm), all these are conceal later on... better rite...
- SD tak mau... sigh!!! Yes more work, but then - it really save us lotsa cost later on...
- btw, guest room toilet no heater point sad.gif oni 3 bathroom upstairs nia... kesian the guest, kena bath cold water!!! @ least gv lar 4 heater point out of the 5 toilets included rite!!!

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