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post Dec 12 2010, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 12 2010, 05:43 PM)
Thats why most churches in advance country get electronic drums there. Maybe u shud suggest to your church
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well, my youth group plan to get a drum set, which electronic drum/acoustic you will recommend? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Dec 12 2010, 09:22 PM)
well, my youth group plan to get a drum set, which electronic drum/acoustic you will recommend? hmm.gif
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acoustic is cool but i think church will prefer electronic becos the volume can be controled.. its not as if church is a rock concert...

as for which set, of course go for the best the church can afford. As churches are rich, i think can go for Roland td20. This way the drummer wont complain so much and also the church get a great drumset which is a good investment compare to getting an entry kit
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 12 2010, 05:28 PM)
wouldnt that thing make u deaf? Since u r shielding all the sound bounce back to the drummer  blink.gif
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Well that's why you can hear everything you play, in the maximum sound inside as possible. doh.gif

Something like an isolator? And protection so that if someone threw a stone it wont hit your drums. laugh.gif

Oh and btw, how the drum shield look like at the back? Is it empty? How's the entrance. yawn.gif
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post Dec 13 2010, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Dec 11 2010, 10:47 AM)
The orange ones are useful IF

1. The studio is small
2. If you just need to follow the bassist
3. If you're playing with a drum shield.
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I dunno, I've used them when jamming with my friends in studios, played gigs using em and have just jammed with my guitarist at home for quite a while and they seem fine to me.. To each his own, I guess.
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QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Dec 13 2010, 02:21 AM)
Well that's why you can hear everything you play, in the maximum sound inside as possible. doh.gif

Something like an isolator? And protection so that if someone threw a stone it wont hit your drums. laugh.gif

Oh and btw, how the drum shield look like at the back? Is it empty? How's the entrance. yawn.gif
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Why would someone want to hear the maximum sound as possible by enclosing themselves in a plastic cage? I can hear my self maximum without the cage and I dont even want to hear myself maximum. Id rather hear all the instruiments (guiatrs, bass, keyboard, etc) come together as a music. doh.gif
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post Dec 13 2010, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 12 2010, 05:28 PM)
wouldnt that thing make u deaf? Since u r shielding all the sound bounce back to the drummer  blink.gif
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Ear plugs smile.gif Moot point. But sometimes I don't wear them if we're playing something impromptu, cause you never know when we need to switch.

.... Or I just play softer. So much easier to communicate without the earplugs xD

QUOTE(major_panic @ Dec 12 2010, 05:40 PM)
Well that's why, as isaac said, you've gotta wear hearing protection when you're in it - or in-ear monitors to hear everyone else. Our church here has one - almost fully enclosed, with a roof! a roof!, and it's an absolute  mad.gif to play in - gets very hot, noisy, and you have absolutely no chemistry with any of the other instruments in the band at all, which is horrible. They only got it so their precious sound people would be able to mic the drums more easily, and not have to worry about the drum sound being picked up by other mics... which is what creates atmosphere. Sorry, went on a bit of a rant there. I really hate the bloody thing.


Added on December 12, 2010, 5:43 pm
Very true, although if the studio's small I tend just to play a bit quieter and go without earplugs. I'd personally never 'just follow the bassist' as I like to react to what the guitars and vocals are doing, but that's just me. I am glad that everyone's using hearing protection, though! I learned almost too late...
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I agree with you smile.gif

But mine doesn't have a roof! biggrin.gif
But I understand from the sound engineers point of view lah, cause unless you use the May miking system, its hard to get a focused sound.

But yes, there is less atmosphere, the worship leaders complain that they can't feel the impact nowadays etc.

QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 12 2010, 05:43 PM)
Thats why most churches in advance country get electronic drums there. Maybe u shud suggest to your church
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For example please?

Lets say Australia, Mike Webber (Planetshakers) is endorsed by Yamaha and he uses their Oak Custom/Phoenix if I'm not mistaken.

Hillsongs on the other end use Zildjians, along with Pearl Masters.

Most major churches that I know, use acoustic sets, with electronic sets beside them, for tonal variety, OR their drums are triggered.

QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 12 2010, 09:24 PM)
acoustic is cool but i think church will prefer electronic becos the volume can be controled.. its not as if church is a rock concert...

as for which set, of course go for the best the church can afford. As churches are rich, i think can go for Roland td20. This way the drummer wont complain so much and also the church get a great drumset which is a good investment compare to getting an entry kit
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Not necessarily, acoustic may sound better as well.


QUOTE(franklooi96 @ Dec 13 2010, 02:21 AM)
Well that's why you can hear everything you play, in the maximum sound inside as possible. doh.gif

Something like an isolator? And protection so that if someone threw a stone it wont hit your drums. laugh.gif

Oh and btw, how the drum shield look like at the back? Is it empty? How's the entrance. yawn.gif
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There are some empty ones, some with a door,etc.

QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 13 2010, 07:41 AM)
Why would someone want to hear the maximum sound as possible by enclosing themselves in a plastic cage? I can hear my self maximum without the cage and I dont even want to hear myself maximum. Id rather hear all the instruiments (guiatrs, bass, keyboard, etc) come together as a music. doh.gif
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Let's say you mic the drumset up, it gives you more focus and the drumset volume can be controlled properly.

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Dec 12 2010, 07:43 PM)
Thats why most churches in advance country get electronic drums there. Maybe u shud suggest to your church
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Heck no! I'd rather have the shield, and play with the church's Pearl Masters kit, than have to play with e-drums. You lose so much sensitivity and range with the e-drums, I find... Besides, here in Aus, a good set of e-drums are heck of a lot more expensive than a decent kit. Plus, I can use my cymbals on a real kit!


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QUOTE(isaacmiranda7 @ Dec 13 2010, 01:05 PM)
Lets say Australia, Mike Webber (Planetshakers) is endorsed by Yamaha and he uses their Oak Custom/Phoenix if I'm not mistaken.

Hillsongs on the other end use Zildjians, along with Pearl Masters.

Most major churches that I know, use acoustic sets, with electronic sets beside them, for tonal variety, OR their drums are triggered.
Not necessarily, acoustic may sound better as well.
There are some empty ones, some with a door,etc.
Let's say you mic the drumset up, it gives you more focus and the drumset volume can be controlled properly.
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This. Hillsong actually seem to vary depending on the drummer (at least cymbal-wise), I'm fairly sure Rolf uses Zildjians and whoever it is that plays for United uses Meinls (or at least used Meinls when I was last up there about a month ago for their album recording).

Most, actually all churches here in Aus that I've seen use an acoustic kit, simply because you can do a lot more with an acoustic kit if you know what you're doing than an e-kit. That being said, I see why some churches would prefer e-kits.

On a completely random and slightly related note, I've noticed here on the gigging scene that lots of bands are begining to use combined kits - lots of them use the octopad-type things mounted along with the rest of their kit.

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QUOTE(major_panic @ Dec 13 2010, 06:22 PM)
Heck no! I'd rather have the shield, and play with the church's Pearl Masters kit, than have to play with e-drums. You lose so much sensitivity and range with the e-drums, I find... Besides, here in Aus, a good set of e-drums are heck of a lot more expensive than a decent kit. Plus, I can use my cymbals on a real kit!


Added on December 13, 2010, 6:26 pm

This. Hillsong actually seem to vary depending on the drummer (at least cymbal-wise), I'm fairly sure Rolf uses Zildjians and whoever it is that plays for United uses Meinls (or at least used Meinls when I was last up there about a month ago for their album recording).

Most, actually all churches here in Aus that I've seen use an acoustic kit, simply because you can do a lot more with an acoustic kit if you know what you're doing than an e-kit. That being said, I see why some churches would prefer e-kits.

On a completely random and slightly related note, I've noticed here on the gigging scene that lots of bands are begining to use combined kits - lots of them use the octopad-type things mounted along with the rest of their kit.
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I know for sure Rolf uses Zildjians biggrin.gif At least, he did the last time I was over in Australia xD

Yeah well, the octopad thing gives you some nice tones for your intros etc, or if you need a soft lush vintage tone for some random phaser beam thing biggrin.gif




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post Dec 13 2010, 11:41 PM

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Ludwig drums. Anywhere to check em out here in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(sarvinG @ Dec 13 2010, 11:41 PM)
Ludwig drums. Anywhere to check em out here in Malaysia?
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post Dec 14 2010, 12:00 AM

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Whoa the thread's moving fast. Here's a latest picture of my setup.

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post Dec 14 2010, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Namqul @ Dec 14 2010, 12:00 AM)
Whoa the thread's moving fast. Here's a latest picture of my setup.

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great setup namqul!

erm knw where can i get small drum stuffs like sticks or rutes that are cheap? huhu
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QUOTE(Namqul @ Dec 14 2010, 12:00 AM)
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I love it man! Looks like so much fun to play on, so much great gear there.

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Great kit namqul.. would like to c u play on the kit smile.gif
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Hi im looking for a cheap 10 inch tom. Anyone got sell? Doesnt have to be good quality or condition. As long as the shell is intact and looks good will do. The drum head can be smashed to peices or without drum head is fine with me. And also no rust of course.

Its so f***ing difficult to find a 10 inch tom. All i can find is 12 and 13 inch.

Willing to pay cheaply for it smile.gif
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Dec 12 2010, 09:22 PM)
well, my youth group plan to get a drum set, which electronic drum/acoustic you will recommend? hmm.gif
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my church uses a roland drum pad.
no pedals at all.
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no pedals? your church playing bongo?

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