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zstan
post Oct 6 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Oct 6 2010, 05:33 PM)
Newbieeeeee : study real hard, get good marks, get rewarded by parents . u take PMR this year wuttt laugh.gif . joking2. u lucky u start photography early , still u have long lifetime for experience and gear-buying  nod.gif , just tahan the few years of poison(s)

zstan : but it's huge and heavy and scary to bring around in malaysia  sweat.gif , that's why i get a F20  biggrin.gif
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hmm, why scary? bulky i agree la...will heavy mer? hmm.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 05:47 PM

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zstan : quote heavy and abit imbalance if witout VG. with VG also if shooting vertical is also imba. probably if pair with a700/a850/a900 better balance, if pair with a33 i dunno le laugh.gif . for the scary part, i dunno why but i always have negative thought/ scared when jalan2 here in KL sad.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 05:48 PM

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Waaa... Holding big cam + big flash dun play play wor in KL..
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post Oct 6 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 6 2010, 05:48 PM)
Waaa... Holding big cam + big flash dun play play wor in KL..
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no need hold the cam also, now 'they' already know camera bags like crumpler , kata and lowepro. better find new designs that doesn't look like camera bags sad.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 06:01 PM

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Mikeshashimi: Mana ada soft? NEX is sharp for me.

ieR: There are traditionally 3 distances.

1) lens to AF sensor
2) lens to focusing screen
3) lens to sensor/film plane

All three must be exactly the same to ensure accurate focus. The diagram however totally messes up the distances and they don't match. Also, the image will appear upside-down!

electron: Well I have not faced such problems with overheating with the NEX-5 in bright Putrajaya sunlight... and I was walking about taking pictures for 1.5 hours!

mastering89: I like the range of the Tamron 10-24mm F3.5-4.5.

ahpingko: Like Gini #1 - others not so.

Batmaninkl: The 50mm f1.8 can focus much closer than the 50mm F1.4, but neither lens is a macro lens. For true macro lenses (which can magnify to 1:1 magnification) the Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro comes in at RM7xx (from the first page of this thread.)

Newbieeeee: The F58 goes for around RM10xx.
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post Oct 6 2010, 06:03 PM

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wow, do you all know how much is the A33 for body only?
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Aiks.. So expensive.. I think I stick with the f42 better.. =/
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post Oct 6 2010, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 6 2010, 06:03 PM)
Aiks.. So expensive.. I think I stick with the f42 better.. =/
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got moolah,straight F58...not enuff,go for F42...
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post Oct 6 2010, 07:09 PM

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eh.. i want to ask...
which 1 better a33 or a550?
i want to buy a33 but a lot of issue to the "slt" things..
they believe slt less professional than slr..

and a lot of people say that the slt is similar to sony NEX...
i don't know what's the different
can anyone tell me? biggrin.gif

please i need your suggestion biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:14 PM

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SLT is SLT, NEX is NEX total different story..
SLT is use translucent mirror..
NEX is without mirror in between..

if i suggest, sure a33 better, regardless on any aspect, except you need an Optical ViewFinder..


Added on October 6, 2010, 7:15 pm@Newbieeeeee
no regret i buy F58.. if you save up to buy a brand new F42, you might just try your luck by adding rm50~100 to low-ball some seller for used f58.. XD

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(fatnir @ Oct 6 2010, 07:09 PM)
eh.. i want to ask...
which 1 better a33 or a550?
i want to buy a33 but a lot of issue to the "slt" things..
they believe slt less professional than slr..

and a lot of people say that the slt is similar to sony NEX...
i don't know what's the different
can anyone tell me? biggrin.gif

please i need your suggestion biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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who? can i say, if i see a DSLR with video mode, that DSLR is Not Pro, its a lowest wanna be pro camera... will u now go and ask ppl DSLR with video is less pro? tongue.gif

may i repeat?

to define a photographer is by his(her) works, not the gear he uses.

SLT is NOT nex, not even close. very farr farr summore hahahaha...

SLT is just mumbo jumbo that sony is good in, MARKETING with lots of stupid names to confuse people. its just a static mirror that improve shooting speed, AF speed, and it still has the sensor that to capture crispy photo~ biggrin.gif

when u buy car, do u look for "VVTISWTSNTEDLSD"(seriously those jargon in car not my thing) in the car? or just 4 wheel, steering, and bring u to destination?

a camera, should snap a photo, and give u the closest result to ur settings/expectation.

but if, u were to ask does sony worth it? i will tell u, sony by far, everything, has at least 10-30% cheaper(then the 2 big brother) in budget after u completely spend on a WHOLE family of gear. wink.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(fatnir @ Oct 6 2010, 07:09 PM)
eh.. i want to ask...
which 1 better a33 or a550?
i want to buy a33 but a lot of issue to the "slt" things..
they believe slt less professional than slr..

and a lot of people say that the slt is similar to sony NEX...
i don't know what's the different
can anyone tell me? biggrin.gif

please i need your suggestion biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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SLT as you know is Translucent Mirror design camera

Unlike typical DSLR, the translucent mirror is to give more clear vision on the EVF (Compare to EVIL EVF) and also Phase Detection under live view with sharpest resolution (Compare the all the Sony Alpha DSLR rivals who has Live View in Phase Detection but poor resolution) because theres a certain amount of light being reflect through the AF sensor and the EVF viewfinder and it amplify the brightness.

The reason for translucent (A.K.A Transparent mirror) is to jump the process of mirror slapping and enable the in-camera shutter curtain to perform in maximum speed without concern the mirror will block it the view or not during fast shutter burst

For DSLR when you use it, the lights pass through the mirror and hits towards the AF sensor, when you snap the picture the sensor stop reading and the mirror slap and let all the lights go towards the camera sensor

EVIL is totally non-mirror and because of that EVIL will not able to reflect the light like what DSLR/DSLT do towards the Phase Detection sensor ( so it means EVIL will never have phase detection)

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happy birthday again bro~

i would prefer a full body shot of the couple in view for number 2 biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 6 2010, 07:39 PM)
happy birthday again bro~

i would prefer a full body shot of the couple in view for number 2 biggrin.gif
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TQ >_<

Haha yeah but that time the space I'm standing is quite limited and I only have 50mm in my camera in a far distance xD

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 6 2010, 07:43 PM)
TQ >_<

Haha yeah but that time the space I'm standing is quite limited and I only have 50mm in my camera in a far distance xD
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try cropping the guy out..see willnicer or not.. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 08:01 PM

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newbieeee: i dont hae 50mm f1.8 also... coz i dont really like 50mm.. tongue.gif rm600 for a warrantied f42 is cheap la. rm600 already cheap dont push peoples' patience.. hahaha.. later he mad.gif wah u only 15? masih 2".. hahhahahah kidding... slow slow fund... dont 'waste' money on something u dont REALLY NEED.

albnok: perhaps i need to rephrase myself... the NEX is comparatively softer (less sharp) than the PEN... this is what i got from online reviews la... but to me its still very very much acceptable... its softer but still sharp...

electron : no offence, but i personally get a negative vibe about sony from you.. sweat.gif

fatnir: its absurd to say SLTs are 'less professional' than an SLR... a professional photographer is someone who makes a living by photography (coz thats his/her profession)... Heck, some people with a PnS take better pics than those wielding a high-end DSLR model.




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post Oct 6 2010, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 6 2010, 07:50 PM)
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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 6 2010, 06:01 PM)
Mikeshashimi: Mana ada soft? NEX is sharp for me.

ieR: There are traditionally 3 distances.

1) lens to AF sensor
2) lens to focusing screen
3) lens to sensor/film plane

All three must be exactly the same to ensure accurate focus. The diagram however totally messes up the distances and they don't match. Also, the image will appear upside-down!

electron: Well I have not faced such problems with overheating with the NEX-5 in bright Putrajaya sunlight... and I was walking about taking pictures for 1.5 hours!

mastering89: I like the range of the Tamron 10-24mm F3.5-4.5.

ahpingko: Like Gini #1 - others not so.

Batmaninkl: The 50mm f1.8 can focus much closer than the 50mm F1.4, but neither lens is a macro lens. For true macro lenses (which can magnify to 1:1 magnification) the Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro comes in at RM7xx (from the first page of this thread.)

Newbieeeee: The F58 goes for around RM10xx.
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well, like i've mentioned, the discussion on the overheating issue seemed to have died down
probably the v2 firmware helped


Added on October 6, 2010, 8:17 pm
QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 6 2010, 08:01 PM)
newbieeee: i dont hae 50mm f1.8 also... coz i dont really like 50mm.. tongue.gif  rm600 for a warrantied f42 is cheap la. rm600 already cheap dont push peoples' patience.. hahaha.. later he  mad.gif  wah u only 15? masih 2".. hahhahahah kidding... slow slow fund... dont 'waste' money on something u dont REALLY NEED.

albnok: perhaps i need to rephrase myself... the NEX is comparatively softer (less sharp) than the PEN... this is what i got from online reviews la... but to me its still very very much acceptable... its softer but still sharp...

electron : no offence, but i personally get a negative vibe about sony from you..  sweat.gif

fatnir: its absurd to say SLTs are 'less professional' than an SLR... a professional photographer is someone who makes a living by photography (coz thats his/her profession)... Heck, some people with a PnS take better pics than those wielding a high-end DSLR model.
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hu mikesashimi,
no offense taken and i don't have issue with sony. in fact, i have a a300 and a NEX3 and been using the alpha system for almost 2 years.
the point on thee overheat issue, it is to educate everyone on the matter and so that ppl from other camps won't label us as fanboy who sees no evil, smells no evil and hear no evil when it comes to the NEX

on the issue of image softness, it is down to the default softness preset in the camera
you can bump up the sharpness by increasing the setting in camera
in addition to that, the olympus is known to deliver higher default sharpness.

oh ya, poisoned a friend to get NEX tongue.gif

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