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Serious Relationship with sex VS Non sex relationship., Boys and Girls, pls comment.

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Priapuseros
post Mar 14 2011, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Mar 13 2011, 01:46 PM)
typos la...i mean "stuff"
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You felt the need to point that out? How stupid can you be, man?
Doesn't change the fact that you're a retard. Go back to school and learn how to type, loser. tongue.gif



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post Mar 14 2011, 02:52 AM

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it's funny dat u pick on small matter like typos (yeah, like u nvr typos b4).....
but u avoid the real points that i pointed out......interesting......
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post Mar 14 2011, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Mar 13 2011, 10:39 PM)
I stand by wat i said just now, & i am puzzle dat in 21st century, still people dun understand the different of having sex & making love?

bcoz real guy dun pray to got & HOPE to get laid, he go out there & work for it instead.....

it's sex + (she will return something you like cook a meal for you, give you a body massage, manja with you, sweet talk, kisses and hugs) = everything
it's incomplete without either 1.?


let me ask u, if a guy u interested on but not in relationship yet, promise dat only will pampered, love, manja u after marriage, will u married him?
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Ya right making love, only that will make you feel loved ? Then do you buy diamonds to your gf, girls that you slept with ?
Diamonds make a girl feel 100% of love and it's 21st century, pls also accept the facts that girls are hoping for more right now.
So you want sex, buy me diamonds ok ? Dont say the girl is materialistic, you said relationship is about trading right ?


REAL guy is ok with NO SEX with their girl because they UNDERSTAND it's about BOTH PARTY not HIS LIL BROTHER and WITHOUT SEX, they STILL LOVE their girl deep in their soul.

Really ? Then why are still ppl breaking up after they have sex + (she will return something you like cook a meal for you, give you a body massage, manja with you, sweet talk, kisses and hugs) ???
Why still got ppl divorce, they had all the about and 1 more thing, kids.
That's why they say, If you cannot take the responsibility to let her wear a wedding dress, do not take off her shirt.
If you only have 1 gf and both of you already had sex, then I hope you can treat her seriously, same goes to her.
If you have exs and you slept with them before, yeah you give her sex, she give you sex, and ? Why is it full stop edi ??


My bestie with her bf together for 5 years, no sex at all, first she's scare and her bf's a christian, the bf's mom doesnt allow.
Now the bf requests for seperate, reason ? You know I know, bcuz of sex.
Yes, it's so hard to tahan, my bestie is hot and already 5 years, but if he cannot wait a few more years until both of them get marry, he really love her ? I doubt.


Haha, I LOL !! Another make no sense example you made. Is there really this kind of ppl ? Where you like someone but do not want give even abit of love ? Even when you see a cute stray dog or cat, you will go kacau or feed it.
Ok maybe there are these kind of weird ppl, then my answer to you is, I WANT A NORMAL BOYFRIEND NOT A WEIRDO BOYFRIEND.

WILL YOU INTERESTED IN A GIRL WHO IS 100% SEX EXPERT, GOOD KISSER, GREAT CHEF, SUPER HOT, GOOD AT CLEANING AND ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
BUT SHE HAS THESE HOBBIES, EAT HER OWN NOSE SHIT AND WANTS KIDS FROM OTHER GUY , DOESNT WANT TO HAVE ONE WITH YOU???

isn't it make no sense ? Ya, becuz you gave me a make no sense question so i give one to you too


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post Mar 14 2011, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Mar 13 2011, 01:52 PM)
it's funny dat u pick on small matter like typos (yeah, like u nvr typos b4).....
but u avoid the real points that i pointed out......interesting......
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Your so called 'real points' are laughable. It doesn't matter whether Chris and Juliana had sex or not before the accident.

What matters is that after the accident when sex is no longer a factor in their relationship, Chris didn't leave her. He stayed by her side, with all the difficult post brain-trauma recovery steps. That's what I call a real man who sticks to his convictions, that's true love instead of mere lust.

Now do me a favor and go dump your head in a toilet bowl and flush it, come up with better arguments next time. thumbup.gif

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post Mar 14 2011, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(Priapuseros @ Mar 14 2011, 03:10 AM)
Your so called 'real points' are laughable. It doesn't matter whether Chris and Juliana had sex or not before the accident.

What matters is that after the accident when sex is no longer a factor in their relationship, Chris didn't leave her. He stayed by her side, with all the difficult post brain-trauma recovery steps. That's what I call a real man who sticks to his convictions, that's true love instead of mere lust.

Now do me a favor and go dump your head in a toilet bowl and flush it, come up with better arguments next time.  thumbup.gif
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omg...do u understand wat i'm trying to say?
"do understand the words that r coming out of my mouth?"

how u think such relationship were built in the 1st place?
in the future, wen u experience a relationship wit sex, u'll realized the kind of connection that sex provides, & look bck & understand that "v nvr could hav gone dis close & love each other dis month if we dint hav sex......"
mark my word......
i dun blame u for not understanding now......

i am so over the "lets pcik on small mistakes & call each other names" childish games.....("i'm too old for this shit")

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post Mar 14 2011, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(Priapuseros @ Mar 14 2011, 03:10 AM)
Your so called 'real points' are laughable. It doesn't matter whether Chris and Juliana had sex or not before the accident.

What matters is that after the accident when sex is no longer a factor in their relationship, Chris didn't leave her. He stayed by her side, with all the difficult post brain-trauma recovery steps. That's what I call a real man who sticks to his convictions, that's true love instead of mere lust.

Now do me a favor and go dump your head in a toilet bowl and flush it, come up with better arguments next time.  thumbup.gif
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Yeah, yes they MIGHT had sex before the accident but now ? No more sex with her until she's fully recovered.

You know what, after reading your comments, maybe I should sit back and laugh out loud with his retardness and his make no sense examples ( still laughing with the weird man biggrin.gif )
A real man, a real woman with mature thoughts and deeply in love with each others, doesnt need SEX to perfect their relationship.
Those who "MAKE LOVE" when they think SEX make relationship stable and stronger, ask them how many exs they slept with and why still break up ??

Pls go dump your head in a toilet bowl and flush it
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post Mar 14 2011, 03:31 AM

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1st i doesn't read the 1st 13 page
But this is my opinion.

For me Sex in a relation is not a must but still is a need.
1. We need to know do ur partner suit ur need. Size, skill, not able to sex and ETC. if you only find this out after u married i believe this is really a big problem.

2. Bad bed skill can improve slowly by understanding each other or may be seeking doc/specialist for consultation of the problem. But if ur partner have mati pucuk or female have hormon/mental problem that not able to have sex. Can u accept this fact, i know minority do but not majority who need sex as part of life either to satisfy body need or born next generation.

3. For me sex before married is not a bad thing but it still need proper knowledge to do it. Like the guy know what his responsible and gal know what is must to protect herself from trouble. Condom is not only prevent pregnant also prevent sex related illness and do not trust these improper way to prevent pregnant that regret u later. For these who have find hooker/multiple sex partner should have regular check up to prevent urself to become victim of AIDS/other sickness that may ruin ur love one/innocent ppl life.

At last my advice to these ppl. Sex dont = love, it just part of our relation nad u always have right to say no to what u determine as not a good way. Specially gal i still find out a lot of malaysian still really lack of safety sex knowledge.

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QUOTE(uest91 @ Mar 13 2011, 02:22 PM)
Yeah, yes they MIGHT had sex before the accident but now ? No more sex with her until she's fully recovered.

You know what, after reading your comments, maybe I should sit back and laugh out loud with his retardness and his make no sense examples ( still laughing with the weird man  biggrin.gif )
A real man, a real woman with mature thoughts and deeply in love with each others, doesnt need SEX to perfect their relationship.
Those who "MAKE LOVE" when they think SEX make relationship stable and stronger, ask them how many exs they slept with and why still break up ??

Pls go dump your head in a toilet bowl and flush it
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LOL@tech3910 . rclxms.gif You go girl~! drool.gif


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post Mar 14 2011, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(uest91 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:07 AM)
Ya right making love, only that will make you feel loved ? Then do you buy diamonds to your gf, girls that you slept with ?
Diamonds make a girl feel 100% of love and it's 21st century, pls also accept the facts that girls are hoping for more right now.
So you want sex, buy me diamonds ok ? Dont say the girl is materialistic, you said relationship is about trading right ?


REAL guy is ok with NO SEX with their girl because they UNDERSTAND it's about BOTH PARTY not HIS LIL BROTHER and WITHOUT SEX, they STILL LOVE their girl deep in their soul.

Really ? Then why are still ppl breaking up after they have sex + (she will return something you like cook a meal for you, give you a body massage, manja with you, sweet talk, kisses and hugs) ???
Why still got ppl divorce, they had all the about and 1 more thing, kids.
That's why they say, If you cannot take the responsibility to let her wear a wedding dress, do not take off her shirt.
If you only have 1 gf and both of you already had sex, then I hope you can treat her seriously, same goes to her.
If you have exs and you slept with them before, yeah you give her sex, she give you sex, and ? Why is it full stop edi ??


My bestie with her bf together for 5 years, no sex at all, first she's scare and her bf's a christian, the bf's mom doesnt allow.
Now the bf requests for seperate, reason ? You know I know, bcuz of sex.
Yes, it's so hard to tahan, my bestie is hot and already 5 years, but if he cannot wait a few more years until both of them get marry, he really love her ? I doubt.


Haha, I LOL !! Another make no sense example you made. Is there really this kind of ppl ? Where you like someone but do not want give even abit of love ? Even when you see a cute stray dog or cat, you will go kacau or feed it.
Ok maybe there are these kind of weird ppl, then my answer to you is, I WANT A NORMAL BOYFRIEND NOT A WEIRDO BOYFRIEND.

WILL YOU INTERESTED IN A GIRL WHO IS 100% SEX EXPERT, GOOD KISSER, GREAT CHEF, SUPER HOT, GOOD AT CLEANING AND ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
BUT SHE HAS THESE HOBBIES, EAT HER OWN NOSE SHIT AND WANTS KIDS FROM OTHER GUY , DOESNT WANT TO HAVE ONE WITH YOU???

isn't it make no sense ? Ya, becuz you gave me a make no sense question so i give one to you too


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well, seriously & honestly speaking, if my girl feel dat buying a diamond for her shud be my way of showing my love to her, den i hav no problem wit dat.
i dun call this materialistic, it's reality.
it's given a 50-50 choice, girl choose the 1 with better financial status, no sweet....


hahaha........try telling dis to other guys out there......

being responsibility = using protection...........seriously....
ain't taking till marriage is a bit too far f the horizon?
sex is just like just another activities for couple in love, such as movies or dinner, only this require more privacy.....
it's like how it is healthy to go out once a while on a date wit gf/bf, well it also good to hav sex once a while......

nah...dun tek religious people in the equation, coz som religion r strict (& actually get punishment) & the followers just doesn't hav choice.....
plus, dey r the people who nvr really know wat is true love anyway.....
dats y most of religion leaders r foreveralone......



the point of this question is, if a girl only promise sex after marriage, den i'm sorry, GTFO......it's like blindly buying a car (without test driving) which is really expensive, gonna pay instalment for the rest of ur live, & drive for the rest of my live.....

well well well....now i see u........u shud watch "the ugly truth"...
u're just like that girl who will pick ur "the one" according to a check-list u hav created. he must score perfect according to check-list...
to answer your question, it depends i can accept o not, i'm not ruling out possible future relationship just solely based on few characteristic.....
coz finding the love 1, it's not from a check-list, every 1 has pros & cons....

or p/s, a lot of so called religious girls already hav sexual encounter, dey went all the way up to 2nd & 3rd base but not 4th, just bcoz dey can tell people she is virgin, & to looks pure in other's eyes......

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Mar 11 2011, 09:54 PM)
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Just to reiterate:
Sex is not superficial, the act of ending a relationship purely on the basis that you're not getting sex is superficial.

Aka S-H-A-L-L-O-W.
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What about women who end the relationship because she is not getting enough attention from the bf? Or the bf forgot the anniversary/birthday/Valentine's Day/staring at other girls/watching porn/spends too much money/[insert the million-and-1 reasons for breaking up here]. Those are not shallow?

No matter how much I read what you say, it still goes along the lines of "I define what constitute a meaningful relationship, and the guy who disagrees is shallow". I don't understand why you keep denying it. Fact is both parties have expectations when entering a relationship, just because you don't want to fulfill the other party's expectations don't make them shallow.

Seriously, if sex is so superficial to YOU, would you end your relationship if you catch your bf having superficial sex outside, because you can't fulfill his sexual needs? And don't avoid answering by saying "That won't happen because my bf won't do that to me reason being blah blah blah". Just a simple "yes/no" will do. Thanks.

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QUOTE(Priapuseros @ Mar 14 2011, 02:42 AM)
Oh yeah couples should totally do other studs. Threesomes for a healthy relationship growth, people. Listen to tech3910, he's a fckin genius.  rclxms.gif
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Actually, agree that 3somes are healthy (minus the STDs of course). Just because YOU are too uptight and don't know how to handle your jealousy does not make it bad thing.

QUOTE(uest91 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:07 AM)
REAL guy is ok with NO SEX with their girl because they UNDERSTAND it's about BOTH PARTY not HIS LIL BROTHER and WITHOUT SEX, they STILL LOVE their girl deep in their soul.
I find it hilarious that it is ALWAYS the women who defines what a REAL guy is and isn't, and it is also the women who defines what a real woman is and isn't. And I find it 10x more hilarious at the men who agrees to it laugh.gif

QUOTE(uest91 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:07 AM)
Really ? Then why are still ppl breaking up after they have sex + (she will return something you like cook a meal for you, give you a body massage, manja with you, sweet talk, kisses and hugs) ???
Why still got ppl divorce, they had all the about and 1 more thing, kids.
That's why they say, If you cannot take the responsibility to let her wear a wedding dress, do not take off her shirt.
If you only have 1 gf and both of you already had sex, then I hope you can treat her seriously, same goes to her.
If you have exs and you slept with them before, yeah you give her sex, she give you sex, and ? Why is it full stop edi ??

You are so contradicting yourself here, and you have just made sex irrelevant to issues of failed relationships.

QUOTE(uest91 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:07 AM)
My bestie with her bf together for 5 years, no sex at all, first she's scare and her bf's a christian, the bf's mom doesnt allow.
Now the bf requests for seperate, reason ? You know I know, bcuz of sex.
Yes, it's so hard to tahan, my bestie is hot and already 5 years, but if he cannot wait a few more years until both of them get marry, he really love her ? I doubt.

Oddly enough, you don't ask "does she really love HIM?" because that guy invested 5 years of his time (and money) for her, but you don't see that because you're uptight about pre-marital sex (and your contradictory standards of it). And also because your bestie is the one involved.

QUOTE(uest91 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:07 AM)

WILL YOU INTERESTED IN A GIRL WHO IS 100% SEX EXPERT, GOOD KISSER, GREAT CHEF, SUPER HOT, GOOD AT CLEANING AND ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
BUT SHE HAS THESE HOBBIES, EAT HER OWN NOSE SHIT AND WANTS KIDS FROM OTHER GUY , DOESNT WANT TO HAVE ONE WITH YOU???

isn't it make no sense ? Ya, becuz you gave me a make no sense question so i give one to you too

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I don't understand how can you be such a contradictory person. How would a great chef who is good at cleaning eat her own boogers? And why would a girl who is able to care for me and my family would want to have kids from other guys. (Only reason I can think of is I did something wrong somewhere).

Anyway, to answer your question: If I don't mind her eating her own boogers and having another guy's child, I'll still have her. But I won't provide child support for the kid, nor allow the father nor the child to share their life with my woman.


QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 14 2011, 03:31 AM)
For me Sex in a relation is not a must but still is a need.
1. We need to know do ur partner suit ur need. Size, skill, not able to sex and ETC. if you only find this out after u married i believe this is really a big problem.
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This.


Btw, if it is a MUST, then it is also a NEED. Come on, man.

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spanker u forgot to change one part of your replies to uest91 above to red. Other than that....you played the colour texts game flawlessly.

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Nevermind lah, all that red is making me mad anyway laugh.gif

Thanks though tongue.gif
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post Mar 14 2011, 10:03 PM

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is it really matter to have a sex? sex is just a physical intimacy. meanwhile love is come from heart, our feeling.
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IMO,if a guy really loves a girl I BELIEVE he will not mind whether they are having sex/making love or not.Will you stop loving her if she's not making love with you?

FYI,I started to haven sex/making love with my ex-gf on the 3rd years onwards (I'm not a saint and I honestly have a man's needs but if you really love her,respect her decisions on this as some girls do take this matter VERY seriously)

I know a lot of you guys would be ROFL (so did my friends back then) but I'm proud of this though

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Without going through 14 pages of replies I just though I put my 2cents in based on the OT.

I dont think sex is a must during dating and bf/gf period, but would help in one - like some here who have already said.. it is a plus in a true relationship where both party genuinely love each other. Sometimes it could also be due to religion where being abstinent is called for and both partners should also respect that if the other observes it.

But then there are also relationships whereby the girl could potentially be a demanding type (im a guy btw) who would be spending (his) money like nobody's business or takes up a huge bunch of the guy's time... and as shallow as it may seem sometimes sex maybe a good indicator of weather the girl is just taking the guy for a ride. (assuming she is not a slut).

But after marriage I did say sex is a must. Otherwise I cannot see how else a couple could bear children.

I guess couple dynamics is a lot more complicated then we can have it written here. At times it is actually best to set some ground rules even before getting into one relationship or taking it to the next level... test the water before hand or even ask if it is not plain enough to the other party.
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QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 14 2011, 03:24 AM)
Actually, agree that 3somes are healthy (minus the STDs of course). Just because YOU are too uptight and don't know how to handle your jealousy does not make it bad thing.
QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 13 2011, 11:33 PM)
To be honest, I never regret cheating because I consciously decided to do it. It's not like I can't help myself, unless it's a ONS thing, which I don't consider cheating anyway.

But having 2 girls at the same time is a REALLY hard juggling act, and is totally NOT worth the trouble.
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Congrats, you managed to pwn yourself. doh.gif

QUOTE(kalvianna @ Mar 14 2011, 09:03 AM)
is it really matter to have a sex? sex is just a physical intimacy. meanwhile love is come from heart, our feeling.
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QUOTE(coolio2199 @ Mar 14 2011, 06:02 PM)
IMO,if a guy really loves a girl I BELIEVE he will not mind whether they are having sex/making love or not.Will you stop loving her if she's not making love with you?

FYI,I started to haven sex/making love with my ex-gf on the 3rd years onwards (I'm not a saint and I honestly have a man's needs but if you really love her,respect her decisions on this as some girls do take this matter VERY seriously)

I know a lot of you guys would be ROFL (so did my friends back then) but I'm proud of this though

Cheers~
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Mar 14 2011, 06:35 PM)
I dont think sex is a must during dating and bf/gf period, but would help in one - like some here who have already said.. it is a plus in a true relationship where both party genuinely love each other. Sometimes it could also be due to religion where being abstinent is called for and both partners should also respect that if the other observes it.
Spoken like true gentlemen. Here, have a cookie. You guys win at life. thumbup.gif
Some people have no idea how to differentiate between love and lust. One is emotional, the other is physical.

To argue back and forth about which one is more essential is pointless, each individual has different needs.
What truly matters is when old age creeps upon you unexpectedly, or when life throws its cruel challenges at you...

Which of the two do you think will prevail? A food for thought. smile.gif

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i concur, a relationship with sex will be harder to end than a relationship without sex

Reason being, the male will feel guilty if the female could not get into a relationship after
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QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 14 2011, 04:24 PM)

I find it hilarious that it is ALWAYS the women who defines what a REAL guy is and isn't, and it is also the women who defines what a real woman is and isn't. And I find it 10x more hilarious at the men who agrees to it laugh.gif
This is somewhat true. Women always define REAL guys as guys i) who acts or behave ii) who perform acts... in such way that it is favorable to the ladies.

E.g Real guys wear pink ...cause women like pink
Real guys will open door for a lady ....cause ladies feel appreciated
Real guys don't need sex ...cause ladies don't need it as much
Real guys listens to ladies ....cause then you don't have to listen to them


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QUOTE(halglory @ Mar 15 2011, 06:12 PM)
i concur, a relationship with sex will be harder to end than a relationship without sex

Reason being, the male will feel guilty if the female could not get into a relationship after
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this would only apply to guys with a conscience.

but guys who are jackasses wouldnt have a problem.

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