I hear you. Everyone expects something from their partner in a relationship.

How can you not have it?

its not like i support the idea not having sex in relationship, but you know..

since the girl not obligated to give the so called *bonus, the guys keep pouring good on her just to got dumped by the girl in the end.

seriously.. we man are at total disadvantage, u never know how woman this modern day thinks.

my girl want it. i dont want it. i leave her.

judging from the expectations that people in this forum have, I fear for our future.

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Added on March 11, 2011, 9:54 pmwell, then the guy deserves it if he's only being good to her to get laid.

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Added on March 11, 2011, 10:01 pm... I don't think you get it.
Let's go line by line with your response, shall we?

The men you've met expect sex from women ... but don't you think they should earn it within a healthy, loving relationship instead of expect it? If they're genuine, loving and just great partners, they'll get sex no problem! Why expect it? I'm not bitter about anything, thanks, I'm in a stable relationship. I don't think you quite understand that sex is a superficial factor to end a relationship on. Isn't a relationship supposed to be about love, trust, commitment, communication? sex is merely one method of showing these things to your partner, and to leave the relationship because you don't have sex is called BEING SUPERFICIAL.

Why?

Because I'm not talking about sex not having emotional depth (as you seem to think I am). I'm talking about the person not having enough emotional depth with their partner BECAUSE of the fact that sex isn't in the relationship and thus, ending the relationship. THAT is a superficial person.

I didn't say ANYTHING about me deciding what makes people happy. Do you not have an opinion about what makes people happy in general? It may not apply to every person, but there are general ideas and those are what I'm talking about. I'm not contradicting myself, you are misunderstanding me. Don't pawn your shortcomings off on me.

It doesn't matter whether I earned the 1000 or my parents gave it to me. It is a painful loss either way, doesn't quite matter the circumstances behind it.

Just to reiterate:
Sex is not superficial, the act of ending a relationship purely on the basis that you're not getting sex is superficial.

Aka S-H-A-L-L-O-W.

This post has been edited by spunkberry: Mar 11 2011, 10:12 PM

There's a huge difference between lust and love. If you truly love someone, you'll stand by her side no matter what happens, and Chris Medina is a good example of this type of person. It really shows that a true relationship is about commitment and the genuine desire to take care of your loved ones.

Words are cheap, just take 5 minutes and watch the video. You'll know what I mean.




For the guys: Think yourself in Chris shoes, ask yourself, could you have done the same in this situation? Most of the guys with a lustful mindset would've left Juliana after that accident. And you have nothing to blame yourself for, it just shows that you never truly loved her in the very first place. All you had was lustful feelings when she was still beautiful and gorgeous. Nothing more.



For the women: *Hands a tissue* Sorry if the vid made u cry... here's another one:
Chris Medina - What Are Words (New single currently #83 on Top 100 billboards with 1.6 million Youtube views)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQY4dIxY1H4




This post has been edited by Priapuseros: Mar 12 2011, 03:09 AM

That was the saddest thing ... luckily she still has him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQO8BE3Glok

But this one, even more sad but luckily she's a strong girl.

Sex is just a bonus.
No one should expect your partner to give you something and if you give something to your partner, dont ever expect to have something in return.
You pamper her and give her love and you want her to give you sex in return, what's that ? Exchange/trade with body ?

And why compare Employee & Employer ?
What, she's the boss and you're the worker ? You give her love and cares her because it's a job to you ?

Yes, sex does pulls each other closer and relationship MIGHT last longer but there are also a lot of activity and things that you can do to improve your relationship, not just sex.

She takes sex serious and will not give it easily, you complain nothing return from her after things you've done to her.
She slept with all her exs before and is open minded, you complain she's a cheap whore and sleeping around.

u fail to see dat dey probably already had sex....
dats y such strong relationship were built......

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Added on March 12, 2011, 1:08 pmThis post has been edited by tech3910: Mar 12 2011, 01:08 PM

the most intimate 2 person can be with each other is thru sex. Take sex away and something will be missing in the relationship. Doesnt mean it cant work though. Its just...er...less fulfilling.

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Added on March 12, 2011, 10:33 pmif a guy does not deserve to have sex with you, then he doesnt deserve to be your bf and you shouldnt lead him on.

Anyway, the way you put it, its as though you are suggesting girls use sex as a form of blackmail to get guys to work at 'deserving' it. Sex shouldnt be treated like an object. Like how parents use sweets to encourage the child to study hard.

Sex is to be enjoyed both ways. Both are giving. And both are receiving. Its like sharing a sumptious dish.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: Mar 12 2011, 10:35 PM

Well then Im sad to see nowadays how ppl treat relationship, 21st century ~

Expectation sounds more like 75% of MUST, the suitable word would be HOPE.
I hope my bf to give me a surprise VS I expect my bf to give me a surprise, see the differences ?

Then why are you making it sounds like, ALL I WANT FROM YOU GF IS SEX ? SEX = EVERYTHING ?
If the girl doesnt want to have sex before marriage or until a certain time, she will return something you like cook a meal for you, give you a body massage, manja with you, sweet talk, kisses and hugs.
Why is must ppl make it like SEX is the only thing that could satify me ?

sex = she trust u. End of.

I stand by wat i said just now, & i am puzzle dat in 21st century, still people dun understand the different of having sex & making love?

bcoz real guy dun pray to got & HOPE to get laid, he go out there & work for it instead.....

it's sex + (she will return something you like cook a meal for you, give you a body massage, manja with you, sweet talk, kisses and hugs) = everything
it's incomplete without either 1.
let me ask u, if a guy u interested on but not in relationship yet, promise dat only will pampered, love, manja u after marriage, will u married him?

btw your "metaphor" is actually an "analogy" and I don't know why you keep saying it's "just a metaphor", because you're obviously using it to try to further your argument that already doesn't make sense in the first place.

uest is owning you right now.

i would help out tech if i can understand what the colour texts are for.

how would virgin even understand that relationship wit sex is better, closer & stronger than relationship without sex if he/she still virgin?

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Added on March 14, 2011, 1:30 am& y no 1 answer me this?

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Added on March 14, 2011, 1:35 amit is subtlety implanted in uest91's mind that guy just in for the sex, & broke up if no sex.....

she fails to see the main argue point that a strong, & nurturing relationship such as shown by the american idol video, can only be built by a relationship which include sex.

accept the fact that couples which had sex is closer & less likely to breakup then couple without sex.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Mar 14 2011, 02:36 AM

Jesus...so many clowns here acting holy..

Sexs is rather subjective...some couple loves it and some couple don't(sad)...

So find the right gal or guy to ur needs ..no hassle then..

Given the relationship on both terms are good, relationship with sex is better than one that doesn't involve sex.

Why? Well, lets say you have a lover and he/she is loving, caring, sweet, everything you could want in a life partner. Give the relationship a full 100 points. Everything's goin great and you're happy with it.

Then your partner offers you an extra 10 points. The ability to have sex with them and you've got nothing to lose. It's either you add up the points to 110 or keep it at 100.

Then the obvious question comes: "Hmm why not?"

Alas, it ain't that easy. We humans are governed by moral codes as defined by our own faith or logic. Ultimately it's up to you as an individual to do what you feel is okay or not.

Personally, I believe sex is not necessary in a relationship before marriage. I think the whole point of being in a relationship is to get to know somebody and identify whether you can honestly love that person and spend the rest of your life with said person. Having sex with them is just an activity to relieve yourself of the sexual tension and letting you know some minor facts (level of horniness, dominating or not, etc.) that I feel is irrelevant to being in love.

This post has been edited by lamusiqa: Apr 5 2011, 07:54 PM

Duh. Why are you pointing out the obvious? Do you think Americans are like you Malaysians?
Most of them lose their virginity in high school. Pssh.

You're a fckin idiot to think that sex is the sole factor of the strength of their relationship.
You've obviously never been in a real relationship.

You type like a retard, that's why.

This post has been edited by Priapuseros: Mar 14 2011, 02:38 AM

so u're admitting that sex does play a role in building a strong relationship........

& since wen did i mention sex is the SOLE factor?
dint i mentioned ealier that couple shud do the other stuff like loving, pampering each other plus ex as well to maximized the relationship growth?

This post has been edited by tech3910: Mar 14 2011, 02:47 AM

Oh yeah couples should totally do other studs. Threesomes for a healthy relationship growth, people. Listen to tech3910, he's a fckin genius.

typos la...i mean "stuff"

& B the W

This post has been edited by tech3910: Mar 14 2011, 02:48 AM