Fair enough.

thank you

player, please share your thoughts on what makes a diet "clean".

well, what i mean by clean diet is proper diet. My thought about it is something like this

let's say person A's breakfast is nasi lemak with teh tarik while person B's breakfast is 2 slice of whole meal bread with low fat cheese and some lettuce with fresh milk. No doubt both type of breakfast will give some full feeling but i'd say person B's breakfast is more "clean" or proper than person A's. So what I meant by go for cleaner diet is means something like this. But of course, again, everyone is different.

Ahhh. I think I see what you're getting at. Your definition of "clean" is probably referring to nutrient density, meaning foods that are rich in vitamins and minerals. Allow me to share my concerns with your example and the whole concept of clean and dirty foods. Your example consists of only 1 meal not the whole diet, therefore its hard to judge, whether the diet is healthy or unhealthy without looking at the entire composition. I understand the purpose of your example was to illustrate your point, but bear with me for a moment.

-There is no such thing as a clean or dirty food. Any food can be part of a one's diet if consumed in an appropriate quantity.
-The concept of clean typically refers to a small list of foods and you would eat these foods, whether you like it or not.
-Does not refer to nutrient density per se. More so, the state of processing
-Clean eating usually does not cater to individual preference.
-Clean foods change with time. In the 80's, fat was evil, so foods that are high in fat were considered dirty foods. At this time, carbs are evil. So anything high in sugar is considered dirty.
-Clean eating varies with different dieting approach. With paleo type diets, grains are dirty. With vegan type diets, meat is dirty.

If a dieter was worried about clean eating. Wouldn't it make the experience more miserable? Lets consider nutrient density and not the made up labels such as clean or dirty. With just nutrient density alone, the list of foods is now very large. Doesn't this make sticking to the plan long term become easier? Of course when making dietary choices, we must use common sense. It is important to have a diet comprised of mainly whole and minimally processed foods. There are exceptions to this rule, such as protein powders, which are refined, but is micronutrient dense.

Ah...thank you for explaining....

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Added on March 8, 2012, 5:41 pmwell, then i guess you know what you are doing....which is good

This post has been edited by playerseeker: Mar 8 2012, 05:41 PM

It depends on the soap.

It doesn't stop there. Its all about dedication bro. Must sacrifice to win. Gotta stay at home like a hermit cooking 12 square meals a day and eat them from a plastic tupperware. Must stop going out with friends just to stay joocy. Otherwise you're doing it wrong.

Oh my God, from my last post I have been diligently going to Fitness First to workout.
My workout now: Cardio 3x a week, weights 2 x...what do u guys think?

I did notice some difference, not much lah but I feel much better.
Anyone heard about International Fitness Week or not around your area? I wonder whether it's going to be fun :-/
Supposedly endorsed by Mel B of Spice Girls

anyone know where can i get cheaper chicken breast? i got mine now from cold storage and it costs rm8-10 for two small pieces..

Ummmmm.... how bout the wet market?

here is my tip..i only taking bread as source of food..and only half plate of rice during lunch only

and i can see difference in weight and feel lighter from day to day.. beside that with long jog on the park, 2 times a month

i m happy ,cud feel a differences already..

another tip, dont forget to drink water whenever u feel hungry.

I heard of that too, but not too sure what's that all about
Oh, spice girls, I miss them


Chicken breast price @ Jusco is RM0.99/100g. Cold Storage is more expensive. If you're lazy to go wet market (Which sometimes also can be around same price with Cold Storage), Jusco will be better choice.

Yah I just found out got FREE 7-Day pass from 19-25 March. Anyone can come in Fitness First during that time! If only I knew about it, I would have waited til then to join la.
But heard some good activities happening then. Cannot wait for it. Hey come too lah, maybe we can buddy buddy go workout for free!
I am more worried about whether the Chicken is "clean" or not, meaning organic or free range. I don't like those big big chicken: cheap but I am not sure if it's healthy :/

On a separate note, I have lost 2 kgs, so proud! =)

hey guys. i weigh around 118kg. height is 170cm.

i really dun like my figure. so i dedicate myself towards slimming down.

everyday, twice, in the morning and the evening, i jog at the park.

circling the park takes about 2km. i do it non-stop taking 20-25 minutes each time i jog. so that means i do 4km a day. is that enough?

i also am following the breakfast like a king, lunch like a _____ and dinner like a beggar style diet. when they say like a king, what does that actually mean? eat lots? eat until full?

Where's your location about? Perhaps can arrange for a workout together
The chicken at Jusco are clean, as far as I notice, the chicken from Carrefour and Giant aren't fresh most of the time. I only get from morning market nearby when I don't have time to go for grocery shopping at the shopping mall. Anyway, if you'll want only fresh clean chicken, wet market is the best choice. I don't believe in so call organic chicken la

I don't count on my weight anymore now, but already build up a better shape for my arms, and waist
Aiming to be 23 before May

Is it weird that even though my weight went up by two kilo and yet I look more slim that I previously was...

Eat breakfast like a King, lunch like a Queen, dinner like a Jester and supper like a Peasant?

I dunno lol.

Just make sure you have lean meat, complex carbohydrates and good fats in every each meal.

Eat fewer calories than you burn and you will eventually lose some weight.

Diet is the key and never ever starve yourself in order to lose weight - crash diet.

wow, you really need to reduce your weight, good luck

We almost same height, I fattest time is 168cm 65kg (after CNY ), after diet plus simple cardio for 1.5 months only reduce 4kg, but i'm not rushing myself since I'm within BMI now

My diet is more vege less oily meat, i can 1 day eat 1 medium bowl of vege but really dont starve yourself, i try to eat only when i feel hungry
total calory burn > total calory consume = lose fat

This is a sample salad made by me, i accidentally made it too large bowl

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Added on March 13, 2012, 3:08 pmSomehow i feel 66 staircase climbing is not enough, atleast for me

but for your weight with your diet i suppose you can further reduce your weight very soon

This post has been edited by popcorn513: Mar 13 2012, 03:08 PM

ya laa.. i also dunno wat to do la wit myself.. feel like fat basterd la you 168 and weighing 65 very nice lo! id die to get those figures..

wow.. that does look nice~~ tell me la the ingredients! i think I'd love to try..