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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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post Dec 1 2010, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 1 2010, 09:16 PM)
nah it dun win the game unlike 2 rax marine all-in
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post Dec 1 2010, 09:36 PM

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2 rax marine all in cant kill early speed.......im actually bottlenecked tvz when they go fast speed to protect fast hatch...
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post Dec 1 2010, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 1 2010, 08:35 PM)
pylon block his natural...
expand...
then 2 base timing push the zerg...
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any replays for this strategy?
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post Dec 2 2010, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(axn992 @ Dec 1 2010, 09:46 PM)
any replays for this strategy?
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It's a very common strategy. I don't think I dig up a replay right now. But what you do is just use a pylon to block the zerg's entrance so he can't expand. And throw a couple of cannons behind to hold it off longer.
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:50 AM

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err....in higher level, if zerg is going hatch 1st, then you put down 2 pylon to block the ramp right after the hatchery pops out. then throw down a forge at your main and cannon up. it will 70% force a 1 base roach bust...as zergling takes quite some time and lots of casualty to bust the ramp...then open with immortal and its instawin XD

theorycrafting as im only a spectator of pvz
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post Dec 2 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(axn992 @ Dec 1 2010, 09:46 PM)
any replays for this strategy?
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u can look at most NA toss replays...
they do this alot (not much on the korean side)...

u can delay the zerg expo by putting 1 pylon at that spot (or if u are terran a 90% completed ebay so u can cancel it back for 75 minerals lol)...
or u can double pylon below his ramp with cannons (or if u are terran double bunker)...

of course while doing that beware of nydus...
this opponent is really weak against nydus and we saw so many toss died to nydus...
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post Dec 3 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 2 2010, 12:59 PM)
u can look at most NA toss replays...
they do this alot (not much on the korean side)...

u can delay the zerg expo by putting 1 pylon at that spot (or if u are terran a 90% completed ebay so u can cancel it back for 75 minerals lol)...
or u can double pylon below his ramp with cannons (or if u are terran double bunker)...

of course while doing that beware of nydus...
this opponent is really weak against nydus and we saw so many toss died to nydus...
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Yea I fell prey to the nydus quite a few times. cry.gif
Now I always make sure I pylon all around my base just to be safe.

But then in one game, I forgot to block my front properly and he just rushed in from my front lines instead of through a nydus...
That was after a week long break from SC2. sad.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Dec 3 2010, 10:55 AM)
Yea I fell prey to the nydus quite a few times.  cry.gif
Now I always make sure I pylon all around my base just to be safe.

But then in one game, I forgot to block my front properly and he just rushed in from my front lines instead of through a nydus...
That was after a week long break from SC2.  sad.gif
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that's the weakness of the build...
u gotta be very defensive after that both ur front and possible nydus behind as ur gate would be much slower...
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post Dec 6 2010, 06:02 AM

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Hey guys how has it been?

Today I was surprise when i woke up at 4am! so i started playing ladder as usual lol!

I had 1 of the hardest match in my life heres a replay of it biggrin.gif

was pretty blur and tired but thank god it wasnt my 1st match because i made so many mistakes im off to have some breakfast n freshen up and off to work!

hope you guys enjoy the replay

here are the stats

pRosCrUBieE vs nGenWild
P V T

I decided for a fast expo since Ive played with him before so i know his play style he likes early aggresion so i went for gate units to fend off his early aggression instead of going for robo tech.. then i decided to go templar zealots stalkers tech..

ps. archons are imba tankers!

Here's the link
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/112935-...-delta-quadrant
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post Dec 6 2010, 08:50 AM

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hey calvin bro, pls post this on our new replay data base =) its out there.
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post Dec 6 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 3 2010, 01:44 PM)
that's the weakness of the build...
u gotta be very defensive after that both ur front and possible nydus behind as ur gate would be much slower...
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Yea. I forgot about the sentry that round, so he easily went up the ramp to my main base. sad.gif
Must never forget the sentry again...

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 6 2010, 06:02 AM)
Hey guys how has it been?
Today I was surprise when i woke up at 4am! so i started playing ladder as usual lol!
I had 1 of the hardest match in my life heres a replay of it biggrin.gif
was pretty blur and tired but thank god it wasnt my 1st match because i made so many mistakes im off to have some breakfast n freshen up and off to work!
hope you guys enjoy the replay
here are the stats

pRosCrUBieE vs nGenWild
P V T

I decided for a fast expo since Ive played with him before so i know his play style he likes early aggresion so i went for gate units to fend off his early aggression instead of going for robo tech.. then i decided to go templar zealots stalkers tech..

ps. archons are imba tankers!

Here's the link
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/112935-...-delta-quadrant
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Thanks again Scrubie. smile.gif
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post Dec 7 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Dec 6 2010, 02:25 PM)
Yea. I forgot about the sentry that round, so he easily went up the ramp to my main base. sad.gif
Must never forget the sentry again...
Thanks again Scrubie. smile.gif
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welcome welcome will post more in the future biggrin.gif

what should I have done to make the game easier for me? do you think i should tech to collo 1st before going ht?

QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Dec 6 2010, 08:50 AM)
hey calvin bro, pls post this on our new replay data base =) its out there.
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haha sorry brader

This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Dec 7 2010, 12:39 PM
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post Dec 9 2010, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 6 2010, 06:02 AM)
Hey guys how has it been?

Today I was surprise when i woke up at 4am! so i started playing ladder as usual lol!

I had 1 of the hardest match in my life heres a replay of it biggrin.gif

was pretty blur and tired but thank god it wasnt my 1st match because i made so many mistakes im off to have some breakfast n freshen up and off to work!

hope you guys enjoy the replay

here are the stats

pRosCrUBieE vs nGenWild
P V T

I decided for a fast expo since Ive played with him before so i know his play style he likes early aggresion so i went for gate units to fend off his early aggression instead of going for robo tech.. then i decided to go templar zealots stalkers tech..

ps. archons are imba tankers!

Here's the link
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/112935-...-delta-quadrant
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Gt c in ladder b4 fr team match i think. Me , aeco n 2 other players.
Sm of the members on tht clan gt sm serious attitude problem

This post has been edited by tjinn: Dec 9 2010, 06:59 PM
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post Dec 10 2010, 07:54 PM

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Haha sone of them like to fool around.. Just don't take them seriously anyways this is just a game haha so try to have as much fun as possible lol I have played with nGenSofles too.. Let me dig out the replays
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 10 2010, 07:54 PM)
Haha sone of them like to fool around.. Just don't take them seriously anyways this is just a game haha so try to have as much fun as possible lol I have played with nGenSofles too.. Let me dig out the replays
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yup...
we were bz laughing on skype...
but the 'lanci'ness is annoying though...
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post Dec 14 2010, 09:46 PM

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Hahaha sounds awesome i would love to join your channel as well wink.gif do pm me!

Im back! Gota train up for this weeks tournament!


Added on December 14, 2010, 9:46 pmI just lost to nGenASURaSIN

he played so well and i played so badly.. sad.gif

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/116048-...oss-lost-temple

banshees are T_T

This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Dec 14 2010, 09:46 PM
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post Dec 15 2010, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 14 2010, 09:46 PM)
Hahaha sounds awesome i would love to join your channel as well wink.gif do pm me!

Im back! Gota train up for this weeks tournament!


Added on December 14, 2010, 9:46 pmI just lost to nGenASURaSIN

he played so well and i played so badly.. sad.gif

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/116048-...oss-lost-temple

banshees are T_T
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I thought you spotted his 3 stargate and you would respond to it, but you didn't >_>
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post Dec 22 2010, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Dec 15 2010, 10:39 AM)
I thought you spotted his 3 stargate and you would respond to it, but you didn't >_>
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hey bro haha i just saw the replay at times i can be really noob at times.. anyways im not really good so hahah... I jsut saw two starports in his base n reacted with obs n stalkers n ht.. i guess i shud have went nix.. instead of those..

for me i only find nix as a counter to tanks in pvt i guess ive seen a bigger picture now haha thank god it isnt in a tournament or not i would have lost!

For all protoss in lyn please support me! Follow me on the following link

Sea : http://www.sc2replayed.com/players/88890-proscrubiee

NA : http://www.sc2replayed.com/players/63710-jjang

I'll be happy to teach, explain on how i play and would love to listen to feedbacks from everyone of you!

You will get updated as soon as i post a replay.. from now onwards ill post my repalys at the replay section because quest told me so biggrin.gif

hahaha jk!


Added on December 22, 2010, 12:56 pmp.s I didnt know marine banshees n raven could be so deadly!

This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Dec 22 2010, 12:56 PM
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post Dec 22 2010, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 22 2010, 12:55 PM)
hey bro haha i just saw the replay at times i can be really noob at times.. anyways im not really good so hahah... I jsut saw two starports in his base n reacted with obs n stalkers n ht.. i guess i shud have went nix.. instead of those..

for me i only find nix as a counter to tanks in pvt i guess ive seen a bigger picture now haha thank god it isnt in a tournament or not i would have lost!

For all protoss in lyn please support me! Follow me on the following link

Sea : http://www.sc2replayed.com/players/88890-proscrubiee

NA : http://www.sc2replayed.com/players/63710-jjang

I'll be happy to teach, explain on how i play and would love to listen to feedbacks from everyone of you!

You will get updated as soon as  i post a replay.. from now onwards ill post my repalys at the replay section because quest told me so biggrin.gif

hahaha jk!


Added on December 22, 2010, 12:56 pmp.s I didnt know marine banshees n raven could be so deadly!
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korean pros has been experimenting with stargate openings nowadays...
u can get phoenixes out faster than banshee now and with that u can spot if there's a tech-lab starport to prepare for obs...
if they are not careful, u can even snipe the banshee/ raven (especially since patch 1.2 will be buffing phoenix build time)...
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post Dec 22 2010, 01:29 PM

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2 base pheonix build can be more deadly than robo tech o.o im having a hard time playing against that......toss basically keep me on my foot with 4-5 pheonix sniping my scv and lone tanks then 1 big push of collo stalker....*to react to pheonix harrass i committed too much to marine thor vikings hence no good composition to defend.....*

Procobo raped me with that build on jungle basin. o.o watched the replay and was so speechless i dno wat i can improve......bottleneck T.T

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